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    Default Problem Animals

    A few days ago, a 13 year old boy in Nova Scotia was attacked by 3 dogs while riding his bike.

    This first post is an article by Canadian major media producer CTV News, about dog ban or control rules in Canada and some other countries.

    Problem dogs obvs have some causal relation to ignorant or malign owners, but this thread is intended to cover problem wild critters too. Speaking of which, tho no shade here, saw 2 coyotes last midnight, checking out front yards one ave off of busy Whyte Ave Edmonton. Sighting nears a dozen for me around this area. To me they’re cool in demeanour, skittish.

    Rogue dogs are a bigger personal concern. Many dogs get walked around my area, and I love and talk to them and their humans all the time. But the rogue risk is a big part of why I EDC a sturdy and sharp small locking pocket knife. For years, since my leg got venous stasis, I have figured that some dog chomping might cost me it for lack of healing. Hope this talk doesn’t jinx me, no such encounters so far, fingers crossed.

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/atlantic/nova...-much-success/

    Quote Some N.S. towns have tried to ban ‘dangerous’ dog breeds without much success

    The Canadian Press

    January 09, 2026 at 4:53AM EST


    HALIFAX — At least two Nova Scotia municipalities have tried to ban certain dog breeds in recent years, but neither local government was able to enforce its bylaw.

    One of the towns, the tiny fishing community of Clark’s Harbour, is about 50 kilometres southwest of Shelburne, N.S., near where a boy was attacked by two cane corsos and a Rottweiler last weekend. The boy, who school officials have identified as a 13-year-old Shelburne Regional High School student, was airlifted to a Halifax hospital but later died.

    Police say the investigation is ongoing. No charges have been laid and RCMP say the dogs’ owners are co-operating with the investigation.


    In 2019, a judge dismissed Clark’s Harbour’s order for a man to get rid of his therapy dog, thought to be a mix of chocolate Labrador and pit bull, after a DNA test confirmed it was a mix of five breeds, none of which was banned by the town. Pit bulls, Rottweilers and their mixes were all on the prohibited list.

    Clark’s Harbour’s current mayor, Clay Kenney, was not in office at the time of the ruling. In an interview Thursday, he said the court case was costly for the small municipality with a population of about 700. The mayor, distantly related to the boy killed in the Shelburne attack, said the bylaw has never been lifted, but it’s unlikely the town would try to enforce it.

    “It cost a town a lot of money for nothing,” Kenney said.

    “Basically it is coming off the books because there’s no good to have a bylaw because it’s unenforceable.”


    In Nova Scotia, municipalities are responsible for dog bylaws. The Municipality of the District of Guysborough used to have a ban on “fierce or dangerous” dogs breeds like pit bulls or Rottweilers. In 2018, it tried to order an owner to get rid of a dog that was mostly pit bull, but council ultimately walked back the order and repealed the bylaw.

    The Nova Scotia SPCA says on its website it opposes “breed-specific legislation” and says a lack of training and socialization is usually the root cause of bad behaviour, not the breed.

    Camille Labchuk, executive director of Animal Justice, a national animal law advocacy non-profit, says there’s no evidence breed bans increase public safety and they’re generally not enforced. She notes Ontario has banned pit bulls since 2005, but she still sees them on the sidewalks every day.

    “What experts say is that what’s much more important for protecting people is educating dog owners, registering dogs so the public and the state knows where they’re living, (and) providing information to the public about how to keep dogs and humans safe,” she said in an interview Thursday.

    “But simply banning breeds doesn’t seem to have much of an impact.”

    Labchuk says there’s some scientific debate over the effectiveness of DNA testing to determine a dog’s breed. She says there have been studies where people have been shown pictures of dogs and been asked to identify the pit bulls. She says they usually fail the quiz.

    “People assume that when a dog looks a certain way, that dog is a pit bull, but it’s often not the case,” she said.

    Other Canadian jurisdictions have tried to ban dangerous dogs, and ended up scrapping the rules.

    Edmonton repealed its pit bull ban in 2012, and now focuses its bylaws on dogs known to have attacked people or animals.

    Montreal had a pit bull ban but did away with it in 2017. Dogs with bad behaviour, regardless of breed, are now subject to stricter rules like evaluations and muzzling. Dogs over 20 kilograms must wear a halter or harness attached to the leash.

    Winnipeg still has a ban on pit bulls and dogs that look like them.

    Several countries still have bans. In Germany, pit bulls are banned, and several German states have restrictions on other dogs like various breeds of mastiffs. In the U.K., there’s prohibitions on pit bulls and breeds like Japanese Tosas, Dogo Argentinos and XL bullies.


    Devin Stevens, The Canadian Press
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    Default Re: Problem Animals

    Some animals can be 'problematic', for sure.

    But here's the great quote from Robert Redford's character Tom Booker in the wonderful film The Horse Whisperer. He's asked if he can help people with 'horse problems'. He replies:
    Truth is, I help horses with people problems.

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    Default Re: Problem Animals

    A close friend of mine used to throw rocks at dogs as a kid and regrets it now
    It's so sad to think about. This small act of stupidity probably ruined those dogs lives
    People problem indeed, but in this case the people are stupid little kids

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Some animals can be 'problematic', for sure.

    But here's the great quote from Robert Redford's character Tom Booker in the wonderful film The Horse Whisperer. He's asked if he can help people with 'horse problems'. He replies:
    Truth is, I help horses with people problems.
    Thanks, Bill. That quote is a bell rung far and wide.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...-ban-9.7039826

    Ontario could ban declawing cats, debarking dogs under new regulations

    Animal welfare advocates say ban is 'long overdue,' could go further.


    Shawn Jeffords · CBC News · Posted: Jan 11, 2026 2:00 AM MST | Last Updated: January 11

    Quote Ontario appears set to push ahead with a ban on declawing cats and debarking and ear cropping dogs, a move animal welfare advocates say is years overdue and doesn’t go far enough.

    The province is consulting on the possible ban on its regulatory registry through early February, after first pitching it as part of a sweeping omnibus bill of anti-crime measures last fall. The proposal would see the province’s animal welfare inspectors enforce a ban on medically unnecessary surgeries.

    “These procedures, which alter an animal's appearance or behaviour, can cause pain, long-term health issues, and behavioural problems,” the government’s posting on the registry says.

    Declawing a cat is the surgical amputation of all, or part, of its toe bones and attached claws. Ear cropping a dog involves cutting and shaping part of the ear to make it stand up straight. And devocalizing cuts out some vocal folds or cords to soften a dog’s bark.

    Animal welfare groups have long pressured governments to ban the procedures. Ontario says that licensed veterinarians would still be able to perform the surgeries if they deem it necessary for the “safety, health, or well-being” of an animal.

    Procedures cause 'avoidable pain,' province says

    The province is consulting with the sector and stakeholders on the proposed changes, said a spokesperson for Solicitor General Michael Kerzner.

    “These practices continue to raise animal-welfare concerns and are widely recognized as causing avoidable pain and long-term harm without medical benefit,” Saddam Khussain said in a statement to CBC News.

    The College of Veterinarians of Ontario, which regulates the profession, has said since 2016 that it does not support medically unnecessary surgeries for animals. It supports vet efforts to educate clients “in an attempt to influence their choices” when it comes to the procedures.

    But the college also said it believed without "consistent changes" to animal welfare legislation, "any restriction on veterinarians performing specific surgical procedures could create unintended consequences that would not support safe animal care."

    Dr. Linda Jacobson of the Toronto Humane Society said that organization is happy to see the proposed regulations. They will provide further clarity to vets who are caught in a difficult position when clients ask them to perform these procedures, she said.

    “It removes any kind of ambiguity,” Jacobson said. “A lot of veterinarians won't do these procedures, and the numbers have dropped off in recent years, but it will take away that uncertainty.”

    Jacobson said she would like to see the province go further with the ban and issue a blanket prohibition on all cosmetic procedures involving animals. That should include all cosmetic surgeries involving horses and the practice of tail cropping or docking on dogs, which is the surgical removal of part of the tail bone.

    “All cosmetic surgeries for animals should be banned because there's no ethical justification for them whatsoever,” she said. “I don't really see that it makes sense to ban some and then allow others.”.

    Ban 'long overdue', says animal welfare advocate

    Animal Justice executive director Camille Labchuk urged the government to follow through with the proposed ban. At the moment, Ontario is the only Canadian jurisdiction where the procedures aren’t illegal, she added.

    “It's a long overdue move,” Labchuk said. “Ontario has fallen pretty far behind.”

    Labchuk said that animal welfare advocacy group would like to see tail docking also included in the ban.

    “It's very, very important, we believe, not to let puppies and other dogs have their tails sliced off simply for the cosmetic preferences of some human beings,” she said.

    NDP attorney general critic Kristyn Wong-Tam slammed the government for waiting years to outlaw all of the procedures. The NDP proposed a ban on declawing cats in a private members’ bill six years ago, but it was never passed into law.

    “The challenge we have here is that this government has had eight years to do something about it, and they haven't done a heck of a lot around animal cruelty,” Wong-Tam said.

    It’s not clear when the possible ban could come into effect based on the regulatory posting. The government will continue to accept feedback on the proposal until Feb. 5.

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