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    Interesting hypothesis about Greenland and Nordics Extraterrestrials... here is very interesting short point of view about that... I red in:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoter...guel%20Serrano.


    The idea of a "Nordic Extraterrestrial" living in Greenland is not a factual concept... it originates from the fringe theories and speculative fiction... as we know, sometimes it's very real...
    But the concept is taken from the works of French author Robert Charoux who proposed:

    An ancient, advanced "Nordic white race" called the Hyperboreans lived in a region between Iceland and Greenland.

    Charroux claimed this race was extraterrestrial in origin, coming from a cold planet far from the sun.... these ideas are associated with esoteric neo-Nazism and are widely dismissed by historians and scientists as unfounded speculation... they say...

    In reality:
    The current population of Greenland consists primarily of the indigenous Inuit people and people of Danish descent, with about 56,500 total residents.
    Greenland was indeed home to a Norse settlement for about 500 years, founded by Erik the Red, but these settlements eventually disappeared for reasons related to climate and resource management... not extraterrestrial influence....

    The term "alien species" is used in an ecological context in the Nordic countries and Greenland to refer to invasive plants and animals that threaten local biodiversity.
    NASA and space architects have used Greenland's extreme, moon-like environment as a testing ground for future space habitats, such as the Lunark project, but this involves human researchers, not actual aliens.


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Esoter...guel%20Serrano.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Just a Socratic thought experiment.

    Maybe Russia should take Greenland, citing 'national security'. Then what would the reaction be from (a) the US, and (b) the EU?

    I posted that as a kind of absurd joke. But now, somehow, Trump is taking the notion seriously. (My emphasis added below)

    ~~~
    "The United States needs Greenland for the purpose of National Security. It is vital for the Golden Dome that we are building. NATO should be leading the way for us to get it. IF WE DON’T, RUSSIA OR CHINA WILL, AND THAT IS NOT GOING TO HAPPEN! Militarily, without the vast power of the United States, much of which I built during my first term, and am now bringing to a new and even higher level, NATO would not be an effective force or deterrent - Not even close! They know that, and so do I. NATO becomes far more formidable and effective with Greenland in the hands of the UNITED STATES. Anything less than that is unacceptable. Thank you for your attention to this matter! President DJT"


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    Quote Posted by SilentFeathers (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Just a Socratic thought experiment.

    Maybe Russia should take Greenland, citing 'national security'. Then what would the reaction be from (a) the US, and (b) the EU?

    Personally, I think the "Russia threat" will be one of the main reason's the EU and NATO will flip flop and support the US "Legal" purchase of Greenland, that'll likely happen this year (2026).

    This may sound like a far fetched stretch of my imagination, but, I think Trump, China, and Russia have been in negotiations and making deals behind our backs for sometime now. And behind the backs of all the leaders in the EU and UK because Trump, Putin, and Xi think they are too stupid and insane to be a part of these massive changes. (Which I would argue they'd be correct).

    My guess is that Russia will get a southern land bridge in Ukraine connecting Russia to Crimea, China will get Taiwan, and the US will get Greenland.

    This may sound ridiculous, but it actually appears to be possibly happening right now before our very eyes.
    That a great guess and here is some related takes on the situation. Yesterday was listening to Jaco and 2 other guys. Forget which one said that they heard from a high level source in the US that they've already agreed to divide up the world and create 3 super states - US, Russia, China. But i assume India/bangladesh/pakistan could be a 4th and maybe middle east and africa. Unless the power of the big 3 superstates forces some of the others to align with one of them.

    He said, Russia gets europe (i'd guess more like eastern europe and the stans - ex soviet). China gets many asian countries (one seer sees them taking taiwan in 2027). US gets the americas.

    Not that they take over the countries but they run the show , the trade, some regional rules/laws, etc.

    Not sure if Japan, Aussie and S Korea would stay with the US if this happened. I think the UK will. I think the france and germany is harder to say. Would africa unite into its own union or countries have to choose who they align with? Even if this is the agreement, don't mean it will succeed fully.

    Liz Cross did a mind probe on trump, asking a part of his being whether he would defend taiwan and he said absolutely not. So, that makes sense with , ok we are converting Venezuela, Cuba, Greenland, mexico, kicking out socialism and cartels. then they let china take taiwan and maybe philippines or something?

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    Remote viewers and psychics seeing big ocean level changes by the 2040s. Some are seeing it starting in the early 2030s but slow. Getting more serious by late 2030s or early 2040s. Supposedly it looks like it wont just erode current coastlines but some elevations could shift. New Zealand could come up and become a much bigger land mass. That is interesting when considering the elite buying up land and bunkers in New Zealand.

    For greenland, possibly it shifts location and becomes greener or they know there will be more melting and more habitable. Is it possible that Greenland also has ancient or other secrets hidden below the ice? Take control to prepare for cover ups? Seers are saying to watch for more ancient secret to be revealed in the coming years. Wondering how much of that could come from melting places like the arctic and antarctic.

    Im quite sure a deal will be made. Somebody has to help to develop the mining there, US will not allow anyone else but denmark which is too small. Trump will succeed in dangling a nice carrot and the greed of the people will bite. Life aint easy in the cold and humans are absolute suckers for money no matter the proud claims when interviewed on camera to appear stoic, patriotic and not greedy. lol

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    Default Re: Could America buy Greenland?

    Not actually true, but this would be a good strategy for Denmark to hold on to its land:


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    Default Re: Could America buy Greenland?

    If Denmark said it was going to sell Greenland to the United States for 1 Trillion dollars and give all the money to Zelensky so Ukraine could continue to fight Russia, well, many of the people complaining right now would be in tears with joy and celebrating.
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    Default Re: Could America buy Greenland?

    I guess one reason why Trump and the jew-mafia want Greenland is because it is excellent spot to build their AI surveillance data centers for Palantir.
    Endless amount of geothermal energy that can be used rather cleanly and cheaply and one of the biggest issues with data centers is cooling them . Cold climate would probably make that also cheaper.
    And of course they want their own playground where they make all the rules ...

    Greenland ‘Freedom City’? Rich donors push Trump for a tech hub up north April 10, 2025
    freedom city, a libertarian utopia with minimal corporate regulation
    https://www.reuters.com/world/europe...th-2025-04-10/


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    Default Re: Could America buy Greenland?

    Eldur Olafsson, CEO of critical minerals firm Amaroq, explains why there's an opportunity in Trump's interest in Greenland. An intelligent conversation of understanding void of media-manufactured emotion.


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    Germany is sending 13 soldiers of its Bundeswehr to Greenland as a first contigent I heard on the radio news in my car today. So do some other nations. How bold.

    I'm sure Trump and the US military are trembling with fear now.


    Of course they say officially that it's for defence against Russia and China, so they actually do Trump's bidding?

    Not sure. Trump has also other reasons and ulterior motivs it seems. (Rare earths being one of them).

    Didn't find an alternative news source, so a mainstream must do for now:

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    🇺🇸🇬🇱USA Greenland - Project Iceworm: Nuclear Missiles Under Ice

    Set in motion by the US Army, Project Iceworm’s primary objective was to deploy a network of mobile nuclear missile launch sites under Greenland’s ice sheet.

    The project was conceived during the height of the Cold War, and it aimed to establish a covert infrastructure capable of launching intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) from within the Arctic region. It was in essence a secret nuclear base, hidden beneath to ice.

    The plan was to have a system of tunnels around 4,000 kilometers (2,500 mi) in length hidden under Greenland.
    These tunnels would be able to deploy up to 600 nuclear missiles within range of the USSR and would be periodically moved around in case the Soviets ever learned of their existence.

    🇩🇰 Project Iceworm was classified Top Secret , but Denmark’s government was kept in the loop,

    https://x.com/mrlvw64/status/2011821486634307698




    🇺🇸🇬🇱Greenland: An Old Pact Already Gives Trump a Free Hand.

    Analysts say the Cold War agreement allows the president to increase the American military presence almost at will.
    - Under a little-known Cold War agreement, the United States already enjoys sweeping military access in Greenland.
    - The agreement allows it to “construct, install, maintain, and operate” military bases across Greenland, “house personnel” and “control landings, takeoffs, anchorages, moorings, movements, and operation of ships, aircraft, and waterborne craft.”
    🇺🇸🇩🇰 It was signed in 1951 by the United States and Denmark,
    The U.S. has such a free hand in Greenland that it can pretty much do what it wants

    https://x.com/mrlvw64/status/2011725806599295070



    https://www.historicmysteries.com/hi...iceworm/39220/

    Project Iceworm: Nuclear Missiles Under Ice
    Robbie MitchellFebruary 21, 2024

    Nestled beneath the icy expanse of the Greenland ice sheet lies a chilling reminder of Cold War ambition and secrecy: Camp Century. Established in 1959, this covert military installation served as the clandestine hub for Project Iceworm, a top-secret United States Army program.

    Its public designation as a scientific research facility was in part a masquerade, for Camp Century harbored a far more ominous purpose: to house and support the deployment of nuclear missile launch sites beneath the Arctic ice. As tensions between superpowers peaked, this audacious endeavor exemplified the lengths to which nations went to secure strategic advantage in the frigid depths of the Cold War.

    Nuclear Secrets and Hidden Tunnels

    Project Iceworm was the very definition of top secret. While it was initiated in the late 1950s and properly got underway around 1960, its existence was only officially confirmed in 1996 with the release of declassified government documents. It was from these that the public finally learned the truth about the project and its cover, Camp Century.

    Set in motion by the US Army, Project Iceworm’s primary objective was to deploy a network of mobile nuclear missile launch sites under Greenland’s ice sheet. The idea behind it was to enhance America’s nuclear deterrent capabilities against the Soviet Union.

    The project was conceived during the height of the Cold War, and it aimed to establish a covert infrastructure capable of launching intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) from within the Arctic region. It was in essence a secret nuclear base, hidden beneath to ice.

    The plan was to have a system of tunnels around 4,000 kilometers (2,500 mi) in length hidden under Greenland. These tunnels would be able to deploy up to 600 nuclear missiles within range of the USSR and would be periodically moved around in case the Soviets ever learned of their existence. The project was top secret, but Denmark’s government was kept in the loop, kind of.

    Of course, deploying such a network would not only be a massive engineering feat, but it would also be hugely expensive. The US however felt it would be worth it. Firstly, it hoped if successful the project would help the army to surprise and outmaneuver potential adversaries, complicating their efforts to detect and target American missile installations.

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    Secondly, throughout the Cold War, both the US and the USSR made significant efforts to project power into the Arctic region for strategic, military, and economic reasons. It was hoped that if the Soviets ever pulled ahead in this particular race Project Iceworm could provide a buffer against potential Soviet attacks.

    Finally, this was the 50s/ 60s, and both the US and USSR were preoccupied with extending their respective nuclear reaches. Project Iceworm would give the US an advantage in the polar region and augment its overall strategic posture. The more spread out their nuclear reach was, the greater the deterrent.

    Camp Century: the Perfect Front

    Construction on Camp Century began in 1959 and the camp ran until 1967. When the Americans approached Denmark’s government, they weren’t exactly honest about everything.

    They pitched Camp Century to the officials as an attempt to test construction techniques under Arctic conditions and to prove the feasibility of (relatively) cheap ice-cap military outposts. It was also claimed the camp would carry out “scientific experiments” and test the effectiveness of a portable nuclear reactor (the PM-2A).

    To be fair, the US wasn’t exactly lying. In total 21 trenches with a total length of 3,000 meters (1.9 mi), were cut out of the ice sheet and covered with roofing. No nuclear missiles were installed.

    Instead, the tunnels were filled with prefabricated buildings that acted as everything from a hospital and shops to even a theater and church. It was a mini town under the ice with up to 200 researchers and army personnel living there at a time.

    The site was indeed also used to test the world’s very first portable nuclear reactor, which provided the site with power from 1960 until 1963. For the most part, the researchers stationed there tested the nearby melting glaciers for germs like the plague and drilled some of the first ice cores. This research was still being used by climatologists as late as 2005.


    but things soon began to change. After around three years it became clear that the ice sheet wasn’t as stable as at first thought. In reality, snow and ice are viscoelastic, which means they move and deform over time.

    The US had underestimated how quickly this process happened and the geologists stationed at Century found that in all likelihood the camp had about two years until its tunnels would begin to collapse. They were proven right when in 1962 the ceiling of the camp’s reactor room began to buckle and had to be lifted by 5 feet (1.5 m) to avoid damaging the reactor.

    This raised safety concerns and in July 1963 the army decided to shut down the reactor for good and make Century a summer-only camp. In 1965 the reactor was removed, and the camp was evacuated.

    A year later the project was shut down for good. The government had decided that with the rate the ice sheet moved Project Iceworm was no longer a possibility.

    The Ghost of Project Iceworm

    Unfortunately, they didn’t do a great job of shutting Iceworm or Camp Century down. When the camp was decommissioned in 1967 most of it, including its waste, was simply abandoned under Greenland’s ice sheet. It was believed that it would stay there, safe and sound under tons of permanent ice and snowfall for the rest of time.

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    A lot has changed since the 60s, however: namely we understand a lot more about climate change now than we did then. A 2016 study found that over the next few decades, Greenland’s ice sheet will begin to melt.

    It’s feared this will begin to release the waste abandoned at Camp Century. This means nuclear waste, 200,000 liters of diesel, PCBs, and an unpleasant amount of sewage will be exposed to the local environment. While estimates vary it is thought that as early as 2090 or as late as 2179 all this waste will be revealed, damaging an already at-risk habitat even further.

    Politically, the camp’s existence and true purpose led to somewhat of a chilling in relations between the US and Denmark in the 90s. Following the release of classified info in regard to a B-52 bomber crash at the American Thule Air Base (another American installation close to Camp Century) the Danish Foreign Policy Institute decided to look into other lies Denmark’s parliament and the US might have told over the years.

    This investigation led to the truth behind Camp Century being revealed, Misleading one’s allies is rarely a good look.

    But ultimately, looking back Project Iceworm can be seen as an ambitious experiment whose ultimate demise underscored the formidable challenges posed by the Arctic environment and the complexities of maintaining covert military infrastructure. Even the United States, with all its technology and resources, couldn’t stand against the forces of Mother Nature.

    It also stands as a chilling reminder of the lengths to which nations went during the Cold War to get one over on each other. Today we are still paying the price for these efforts and the remnants of Camp Century are proof that we will continue to pay for decades to come.

    As the world reflects on this chapter of history, it serves as a cautionary tale of the enduring consequences of the Cold War’s icy grip.

    Top Image: Trench construction begins in 1960 at Camp Century, secret home of Project Iceworm. Source: U.S. Army Corps of Engineers, Cold Regions Research and Engineering Laboratory / Public Domain.
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    Greenland's Foreign Minister Vivian Motzfeldt was close to tears at a news conference on Wednesday following her meeting with Donald Trump.

    Greenland’s Foreign Minister Vivian Motzfeldt gets visibly emotional, briefly breaks down on live interview: “We are doing our utmost. But the last days, naturally… oh, I am getting very emotional. I am overwhelmed.”
    https://x.com/clashreport/status/2011752436197965878

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    Interesting. Do these rules or laws apply everywhere ? Who came up with them ?
    A bit worrisome for tiny a*s countries like mine ...

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    Default Re: Could America buy Greenland?

    I would suggest there's likely a lot of things going on behind the scenes concerning China and EU/Greenland that we are completely unaware of. Highly likely things (deals) going on behind closed doors directly involving Denmark and China.

    Personally I think the UK, EU, and NATO itself has become rather irrelevant, the purchase of Greenland by the US is a result.

    Regardless, I predict the US will legally purchase Greenland before the end of 2026.
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    Default Re: Could America buy Greenland?

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Greenland's Foreign Minister Vivian Motzfeldt was close to tears at a news conference on Wednesday following her meeting with Donald Trump.
    I wish my mind/body/whatever reading skills were better, that I might better sense what is happening behind closed doors.
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    https://www.rt.com/news/631092-green...us-annexation/

    January 18, 2026

    Thousands rally in Greenland against US annexation plans (VIDEOS)
    Authorities estimate that about one-fifth of Nuuk’s population took part in the demonstration


    Thousands of people marched through Greenland’s capital, Nuuk, on Saturday to protest against US plans to annex the self-governing Danish territory. A similar rally was held in Copenhagen.

    The protests came in response to recent statements by US President Donald Trump, who has declared that Washington would obtain the territory “the easy way” or “the hard way,” citing the need for Greenland for “national security.”

    Videos obtained by RT show a large column of several thousand protesters marching toward the US consulate in Nuuk.

    Demonstrators carried Greenlandic flags and held placards reading “Greenland is not for sale” and “We do not want to be Americans.” Some participants were seen dancing with a tambourine, a local tradition used to resolve disputes.

    Authorities estimated that about 4,000 people took part in the demonstration in Nuuk, a city of roughly 19,000 to 20,000 residents.

    Greenland’s Prime Minister Jens-Frederik Nielsen joined the protest, holding a sign reading “We shape our future.”

    A similar rally was held in the Danish capital of Copenhagen. Demonstrators there chanted “Kalaallit Nunaat,” Greenland’s name in the Greenlandic language, and displayed banners reading “Hands Off Greenland” and “Greenland for Greenlanders.”

    I am very grateful for the huge support we as Greenlanders receive … We are also sending a message to the world that you all must wake up,” Julie Rademacher, chair of Uagut, an organization representing Greenlanders in Denmark, said. “Greenlanders have involuntarily become the front in the fight for democracy and human rights.”

    “It’s very important that we stay together and show that Greenland is not for sale and we would not like to be an American or be annexed by the USA,” Greenlandic politician Erik Jensen added.

    On Saturday, Trump announced tariffs on Denmark, Norway, Sweden, France, Germany, the United Kingdom, the Netherlands and Finland, saying the measures would remain in place until a “complete and total purchase” of Greenland is achieved.

    Both Danish and Greenlandic authorities have rejected any prospect of ceding the island, insisting that its future must be decided by its people, who voted in 2008 to retain autonomous status within the Kingdom of Denmark.

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    Default Re: Could America buy Greenland?

    Tim Davies chimes in. Ex-RAF Instructor Pilot and critic of UK military policy, Tim says Trump is doing this to wean Europe (which includes the UK) off the US’s mlitary teat (my paraphrase).

    I agree with what he says.

    The Real Reason Trump Demands Greenland From Europe

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    Quote The United States isn’t interested in Greenland because it’s greedy.
    It’s interested because Europe has allowed itself to become strategically weak.

    As European nations cut defence spending, hollow out their militaries, and outsource hard power to Washington, the US is increasingly forced to think unilaterally about Arctic security, NATO’s northern flank, and access to critical territory.

    Greenland sits at the centre of that problem.

    In this video, I explain:

    Why Greenland matters far more than most Europeans realise

    How Europe’s long-term defence neglect has changed the balance of power

    Why the US is losing patience with European dependency

    And why saying “no” means very little if you can’t back it up

    This isn’t anti-European.
    It’s a hard look at capability, credibility, and consequence.

    If Europe wants strategic autonomy, it has to earn it.

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    Default Re: Could America buy Greenland?

    Trump threatens the countries who sent soldiers with tariffs. And the Germans have already left again.

    (english subtitles are okay)

    Also about the hipocrisy of the leftist slogan "Greenland for the Greenlanders" but then denouncing anyone as a fascist or nazi who says "Germany for the Germans" or "Austria for the Austrians".

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    Default Re: Could America buy Greenland?

    What kind of contemptible piece of garbage masquerading in human form could write such a letter.








    (I don't think the image is authentic, but a number of people on Twitter/X has confirmed that this is the actual text of the letter.)

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    Default Re: Could America buy Greenland?

    Cant read it as the content isnt viewable in the UK Kryz. Can you give us the gist?
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