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    Quote Posted by grapevine (here)
    Cant read it as the content isn't viewable in the UK Kryz. Can you give us the gist?
    Yes, it's real. Here's the exact text:

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    Dear Jonas:

    Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America.

    Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a “right of ownership” anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also.

    I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States.

    The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland.

    Thank you!

    President DJT

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    The Snowy Mountains of Greenland – Satellite Imagery (Copernicus Sentinel-2) – 10/24/25



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    Quote Posted by grapevine (here)
    Cant read it as the content isnt viewable in the UK Kryz. Can you give us the gist?
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    Dear Jonas:

    Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America.

    Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a “right of ownership” anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also.

    I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States.

    The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland.

    Thank you!

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    Default Re: Could America buy Greenland?

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    Quote Posted by grapevine (here)
    Cant read it as the content isn't viewable in the UK Kryz. Can you give us the gist?
    Yes, it's real. Here's the exact text:

    ~~~
    Dear Jonas:

    Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America.

    Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a “right of ownership” anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also.

    I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States.

    The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland.

    Thank you!

    President DJT
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    wrt the DJT letter: it seems to me so ridiculous as to be beyond parody; and indeed makes me suspect that this whole Greenland thing is (in some way that I do not know) a fake, a fraud, a big nothing-burger.

    The whole way this has emerged and been covered, is like a Punch and Judy show (i.e. where the fighting puppets are controlled by the same person).

    But we, the audience, are intended to be getting angry, frustrated, analysing the character and motives of DT, making suggestions, and taking sides.

    I am increasingly convinced that we are being seriously misled as to what (if anything) is going-on wrt Greenland - or maybe the important stuff is going on somewhere else altogether. Either way, I probably will never discover what... But I am not going to foam at the mouth over this issue, in the way that "They" so obviously want to happen and are modelling for our imitation in the mass media.

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    Quote Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)
    wrt the DJT letter: it seems to me so ridiculous as to be beyond parody; and indeed makes me suspect that this whole Greenland thing is (in some way that I do not know) a fake, a fraud, a big nothing-burger.

    The whole way this has emerged and been covered, is like a Punch and Judy show (i.e. where the fighting puppets are controlled by the same person).

    But we, the audience, are intended to be getting angry, frustrated, analysing the character and motives of DT, making suggestions, and taking sides.

    I am increasingly convinced that we are being seriously misled as to what (if anything) is going-on wrt Greenland - or maybe the important stuff is going on somewhere else altogether. Either way, I probably will never discover what... But I am not going to foam at the mouth over this issue, in the way that "They" so obviously want to happen and are modelling for our imitation in the mass media.
    Indeed this whole thing smells very fishy. I'm going to venture a totally crazy hypothesis here: Does DJT in some very indirect way try to dismantle NATO?
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    Quote Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)
    wrt the DJT letter: it seems to me so ridiculous as to be beyond parody; and indeed makes me suspect that this whole Greenland thing is (in some way that I do not know) a fake, a fraud, a big nothing-burger.
    Bruce, I'd love to believe this, but I truly don't think so. There's now barely any off-ramp for him, politically, to find a way to explain he didn't fully intend everything he's been saying.

    It has all the signs of being a personal vanity project now that his bid to defeat Putin has failed (and maybe also that Venezuela has come to little after all), and there's a long line of highly intelligent and well-informed analysts, who fully supported Trump exactly one year ago (20 January!), who now are saying very seriously that this is no longer the man they once knew and voted for.

    What may be becoming increasingly likely:
    1. The Republicans will lose control of the House and the Senate in the coming mid-terms.
    2. Communications like this will be used as evidence to support motions to invoke the 25th Amendment, and/or Trump's impeachment.
    Whether the mid-terms are lost may depend more on imminent economic factors and those of violent domestic unrest than issues of US expansionism, which (I suspect!) most regular Americans don't really care about and might even support in a flag-waving rah-rah kind of way.
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    Default Re: Could America buy Greenland?

    Quote Posted by Michi (here)
    Quote Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)
    wrt the DJT letter: it seems to me so ridiculous as to be beyond parody; and indeed makes me suspect that this whole Greenland thing is (in some way that I do not know) a fake, a fraud, a big nothing-burger.

    The whole way this has emerged and been covered, is like a Punch and Judy show (i.e. where the fighting puppets are controlled by the same person).

    But we, the audience, are intended to be getting angry, frustrated, analysing the character and motives of DT, making suggestions, and taking sides.

    I am increasingly convinced that we are being seriously misled as to what (if anything) is going-on wrt Greenland - or maybe the important stuff is going on somewhere else altogether. Either way, I probably will never discover what... But I am not going to foam at the mouth over this issue, in the way that "They" so obviously want to happen and are modelling for our imitation in the mass media.
    Indeed this whole thing smells very fishy. I'm going to venture a totally crazy hypothesis here: Does DJT in some very indirect way try to dismantle NATO?
    Personally I think this is a major part of what is happening. Not only weakening or dismantling NATO, but also severely weakening the pathetic globalists running the UK and EU. This is also slowly forcing the choking off of funding going to the Ukraine war. We are watching the catastrophic collapse of the UK and EU happening in real time, their strength and influence on the global stage is fading away quickly.

    I think these globalists know exactly what is happening. Carney tries to make deals with China but it's a little too late as Trump is already one step ahead of Carney with Xi in my opinion. Canada will likely become really isolated from the EU once NATO is off the table and the vise tightens even more on the UK and EU.

    As Bruce said, we are being misled as to what is actually behind this whole Greenland development. Either way, the US will highly likely end up with ownership of Greenland, and probably sooner than later.

    The global dynamics are changing fast!
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    My point is negative, not predictive.

    I'm not predicting what will happen - I am saying that IMO whatever happens will have nothing to do with the motivations or wishes of DT; who is (when it comes to important things) just a puppet, like his predecessor. As are all the "leaders" of NATO and EU. With broadly the same powers behind the scenes and controlling all the sides on offer.

    Nonetheless, there is (IMO) a major elite civil war between the totalitarians who want central control and therefore want predictability; and another faction who want chaos and promote instability. The way this issue has been spun is such as to provoke the maximum of instability.

    Whatever happens or does not - the way the issue is being presented, the manipulated mass response - is currently the main thing about it.

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    Quote Posted by Bruce G Charlton (here)
    My point is negative, not predictive.

    I'm not predicting what will happen - I am saying that IMO whatever happens will have nothing to do with the motivations or wishes of DT; who is (when it comes to important things) just a puppet, like his predecessor. As are all the "leaders" of NATO and EU. With broadly the same powers behind the scenes and controlling all the sides on offer.

    Nonetheless, there is (IMO) a major elite civil war between the totalitarians who want central control and therefore want predictability; and another faction who want chaos and promote instability. The way this issue has been spun is such as to provoke the maximum of instability.

    Whatever happens or does not - the way the issue is being presented, the manipulated mass response - is currently the main thing about it.
    Agreed! And the result of global instability is usually mass depopulation. Something that many of us here have suspected as "the final solution" from the deep state cabal.

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    Lately I am reading some EU papers... listening some news.. also in Slovenia... they are very opposed to Trump's hunger... and they are these moments... I hope is not to late.. standing up on their feet.. also a joint statement published by people and their parliament of Greenland... they are demanding, that the US show respect... they do not want to become part of the US also... they "do not want to be Americans...." also Greenland has moved, to ban foreign political funding... all in response to US interference.... I do not see Trump's hunger after Greenland will be successful...

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    Providing some helpful insights from Ben Davidson starting at around 21 minutes into the interview with Kim Iversen, as to why Trump would really like to acquire Greenland...
    Hint: Greenland in the near future, after the poles have reversed and the geomagnetic excursion has occurred, is predicted to become much warmer, while the US is predicted to become much colder.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    It has all the signs of being a personal vanity project now that his [Trump's]bid to defeat Putin has failed
    There's quite another way to look at this ... well explained by Alex Krainer. Quoting from about the 4:30 mark:
    My impression is that Trump is actually delivering on all that, namely he's pretty much demolishing the post World War II global order, you know, the "rules based" global order as they like to call it, and he has been working in favor of multi-polar integrations.

    Above has a bit of detail, but is well worth the listen, in my view.
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    https://www.jpost.com/international/article-883900

    World Jewish Congress President Ronald Lauder involved in Trump’s push for Greenland - report
    Since Trump’s first term, Lauder has, according to the Guardian, acquired commercial holdings in Greenland. Some analysts see his suggestion to Trump as a way to personally benefit.


    January 20, 2026

    World Jewish Congress President and longtime friend of US President Donald Trump, Ronald Lauder, may have helped spark Trump’s interest in acquiring Greenland, according to a new report in The Guardian on Thursday.

    Former national security adviser John Bolton, who left the first Trump administration in 2019, told the British newspaper that Trump summoned him to the Oval Office and said that a billionaire, later identified as Lauder, had proposed that the United States buy Greenland.

    According to Bolton, Trump's close friends hold sway over the president’s actions. “Bits of information that he hears from friends, he takes them as truth, and you can’t shake his opinion,” he told the Guardian.

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    Daniel Davis Deep Dive

    🧊🚢 “Trump’s justification for Greenland is a lie.” — Former CIA officer Larry Johnson
    🚨 Johnson exposes the "nonsense" behind the Greenland push: Russia and China aren't taking over. Russia already has a massive Arctic presence and has no need, and China has no naval capacity to even threaten Greenland - and no incentive to try..
    🤝 The twist? Putin loves Trump’s plan because it's actively “going to destroy NATO" by creating great division and friction within the alliance. We are perversely helping Putin’s strategy to weaken the West.
    🛳️ The Arctic reality check: The U.S. has one functional icebreaker—Russia has forty. China has but five.
    🤥 "We're blowing so much smoke up our rear end," Johnson warns, as Washington chases an "economic control" fantasy.
    📉 Why the urgency? Denmark and Greenland already allow U.S. troops—this isn't about security; it's an Arctic illusion.
    ⚠️Johnson warns: This push is “laughable” — and “this is going to destroy NATO.”
    🎥 Watch the full Daniel Davis Deep Dive to see why this strategy backfires and strengthens Moscow. https://youtube.com/watch?v=lMZEvK83P9k&t=905s
    👉 #Greenland #Arctic #NationalSecurity #Geopolitics #NATO #DanielDavisDeepDive #ForeignPolicy #Russia

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    Daniel Davis Deep Dive

    ❄️🔥 “Where is the national security case for why we absolutely need to control Greenland?” — Col. Douglas Macgregor
    • ⚠️ Macgregor (
    @DougAMacgregor
    ) says the push to control Greenland rests on a “threat narrative without evidence.”

    🌍 He challenges claims of Russian or Chinese “incursion, invasion, occupation,” calling the idea “a crazy notion.”

    🛢️ He notes the justification keeps shifting — from oil and gas to rare earths to national security — with no clear rationale.

    ❓ Macgregor asks the core question: “What is the national security imperative that means Greenland has to be governed by the United States?”

    🔍 A sharp breakdown of why the strategic argument simply doesn’t add up.

    🎥 A must‑watch clip for anyone following U.S. Arctic policy and global strategy: https://open.substack.com/pub/daniel...meOnShare=true

    👉 #Trump #Greenland #NationalSecurity #Davos #Macgregor #DanielDavisDeepDive #Geopolitics #ArcticStrategy

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    Default Re: Could America buy Greenland?

    Check out this video, where Greenlanders recently designed their own MAGA hat, which literally says: "Make America Go Away".

    "Most Greenlanders are worried about and tired of U.S. President Donald Trump's quest to acquire the Danish territory. Trump now says he and NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte have "formed the framework of a future deal with respect to Greenland." Heidi Petracek reports from Nuuk, Greenland, where she speaks with people about what they think about Trump and his annexation threats – and how the Greenlandic government isn't taking any chances by preparing for a potential invasion."

    “He is not welcome here”: Greenlanders react to Trump's annexation threats

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    Trump says framework deal on Greenland 'gets everything we wanted' (1:23)



    Quote 21 Jan 2026
    President Donald Trump says he is cancelling a planned tariff on U.S. allies in Europe over Greenland. This decision follows an agreement with NATO on future Arctic deal. Earlier, Trump insisted on acquiring Greenland but said he would not use force.

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    Trump says that the U.S.A. will not use force to acquire Greenland.

    That statement might have lowered the anxiety level of many at DAVOS - why didn't he make that clear earlier???


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