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    The Duran explains exactly what happened in Davos.

    NATO and Trump negotiate Greenland without Greenland or Denmark


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    The Duran explains exactly what happened in Davos.

    NATO and Trump negotiate Greenland without Greenland or Denmark

    So sad what we are witnessing here... Rutte does NOT care about anyone... other than himself... the same as Trump and his administration... whatever both of them do... it is what they thinks is best for THEM and their families and friends... Trump does not want to dump NATO... as some are saying... get rid of it... we shall see... he will use that military for the empire... and making money for his family and friends around the world.... at the end of the day... there are nothing for THE PEOPLE and HUMANITY!
    Circus of criminals!
    And we also know who are behind many of these day's unfoldments... everywhere.. the same foreign country's criminals... the same!

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    DD Geopolitics

    Bibi in 2018: "By the way, what are we doing with Greenland? We've gotta do something with Greenland."

    Trump in 2026: "I'M ON IT BOSS, I CAN DO IT!!! Let me get your chair...."

    https://x.com/DD_Geopolitics/status/2014362951361417542

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    There are some interesting correlations with the desire to acquire the island of Greenland and the two movies released with the same name. In David Wynn Miller's 9.5-hour video he said they found a 300-mile-long ship under Greenland's ice. It belongs to a thirty-foot-tall race called the Moise which are depicted in the Moai statues on Easter Island and they visited Earth some 50,000 years ago. It emits a dampening field which inhibits electron flow. It's believed to be some type of refrigeration unit or ark and to map its perimeter they used an air powered tractor. The Bucegi time capsule in Romania is said to have been created by aliens some 50,000 years ago.

    Premise of the first Greenland movie which seems to parallel and urgent want for that landmass.
    Google AI
    Quote The movie Greenland uses the name because the island serves as the last hope for humanity, a supposed safe haven with government bunkers from a comet impact, playing on the real island's history of being given an attractive name (by Erik the Red) to lure settlers, despite its icy reality. In the film, Greenland becomes the ultimate destination for survival, a "green" land of promise amidst global devastation, even though it's mostly ice-covered in reality.
    Greenland 2: Migration
    Quote The premise for Greenland 2: Migration follows the Garrity family five years after the comet impact, forced out of their Greenland bunker by collapse and resource scarcity, leading them on a perilous journey across post-apocalyptic Europe towards rumored safe havens near the impact crater in France, facing radiation, other desperate survivors, and a ravaged landscape in search of a new home.
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    The Cradle

    WATCH | “What are we doing with Greenland? … We got to do something with Greenland.”

    At the 2018 AIPAC conference, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu asked the audience “what are we doing with Greenland?”, suggesting the island might have “some satellite needs” Israel could 'help' with.

    A year later, in August 2019, US President Donald Trump publicly floated the idea of the US buying Greenland from Denmark, sparking a long-running conversation about the island’s future and underscoring its strategic significance for both Israeli and US leaders.

    https://x.com/TheCradleMedia/status/2014306720156201127

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    John Mearsheimer casts aside the moral outrage against Trump's lawlessness and bullying and focuses on the Realpolitik here. He notes how Trump is reshaping aggressive foreign policy by not picking on the big nations (Russia, China) and bullying little ones like Denmark and how he is using the military for small operations (e.g. extracting Maduro from Venezuela) and avoiding the bigger ones (occupying nations.)


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    Some history about the CCP's attempts to get a foothold (and more) in Greenland in this week's China Show, including the CCP's current attempts in a segment starting at 1 hour 27 minutes into the video.
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    "HUGE EPISODE! - Some horrible mysterious happenings in China - but also - 2 rocket failures. China's biggest steel group explodes. Then it explodes again in a completely different area. China uses information warfare at Davos against the USA and SO much more."

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    This is a little off-topic on this thread. But it's quite interesting (not to mention quite an indictment of American education!) to see Trump, his image creators, and the whole White House communications staff — not to mention the mainstream US media who are joining in on all this — having no clue that there are no penguins in Greenland.

    This was published by The White House, just one of many different images and cartoons of penguins and Greenland that are easy to find.






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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This is a little off-topic on this thread. But it's quite interesting (not to mention quite an indictment of American education!) to see Trump, his image creators, and the whole White House communications staff — not to mention the mainstream US media who are joining in on all this — having no clue that there are no penguins in Greenland.

    This was published by The White House, just one of many different images and cartoons of penguins and Greenland that are easy to find.







    Bill, you may be making a hasty call. Strange birds have been turning up in places where they have never been seen before.



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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This is a little off-topic on this thread. But it's quite interesting (not to mention quite an indictment of American education!) to see Trump, his image creators, and the whole White House communications staff — not to mention the mainstream US media who are joining in on all this — having no clue that there are no penguins in Greenland.

    This was published by The White House, just one of many different images and cartoons of penguins and Greenland that are easy to find.





    They do, however, have polar bears in Greenland. Perhaps they could ditch the misplaced penguin and arrange for a polar bear next to the Greenland flag to greet Trump and remind him of where his place is on the food chain in this part of the world.

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    The following article (partially included here) from The Epoch Times explains the main reasons why USA wants to exclusively control Greenland:
    • Competing for Dominance
    • Defense Strategy
    • Trade Routes
    • Rare-Earth Minerals

    Why Greenland Is Vital for US to Counter China and Russia

    By John Haughey, Autumn Spredemann



    U.S. President Donald Trump has said that the United States must purchase or annex Greenland “for the purpose of national security” before Russian or Chinese interests are entrenched in the area. The autonomous Danish territory straddles key sea lanes, including trans-Arctic shipping corridors, and is rich in critical minerals and rare earths.

    Trump has said that “whether they like it or not,” Greenland will soon belong to the United States. Possible scenarios include Greenland becoming a U.S. territory, such as the Virgin Islands, or a freely associated state in a compact with the United States.

    The United States has similar compacts with Micronesia, the Marshall Islands, and Palau, granting them substantial economic aid, while the United States has authority over security and defense.

    The president first expressed his intention to buy Greenland in 2019, and the second Trump administration has voiced increased urgency in incorporating the world’s largest island.

    U.S. Vice President JD Vance and U.S. Secretary of State Marco Rubio met with Danish and Greenlandic officials on Jan. 14. After the meeting, Danish Foreign Minister Lars Lokke Rasmussen called it a “frank but also constructive discussion” and said disagreements remain.

    The Trump administration is also backing mining projects in Greenland, focusing on the island’s rare earths.

    Incorporating Greenland—nearly 50 percent bigger than Alaska and three times the size of Texas—would be the largest territorial expansion in the nation’s history.

    Competing for Dominance

    Trump has consistently expressed concern about the Russian and Chinese presence in the region.

    In 2007, Russia planted a Russian flag on the North Pole seabed. Since that time, it has revitalized more than 50 old Soviet military installations. The Russian presence in the Arctic now includes six army bases, 10 radar stations, 14 airfields, and 16 deep-water ports.

    “It is important to consistently strengthen Russia’s positions in the Arctic, comprehensively develop our country’s logistics capabilities, and ensure the development of a promising Arctic transport corridor from St. Petersburg to Vladivostok,” Russian President Vladimir Putin said in November 2025.

    Russia’s coast frames more than half the Arctic Ocean, and it has more icebreakers, including nuclear-powered ice-crushers, than the rest of the world combined, according to an August 2025 report from the Atlas Institute for International Affairs.

    The United States, in contrast, has no bases directly on the Arctic Ocean. It has five bases in the Arctic, four in Alaska, and Pituffik Space Force Base in Greenland.


    The Russian nuclear-powered icebreaker at the North Pole on Aug.18, 2021. Russia has more than 60 icebreakers, while the United States only has two, according to Rep. Mike Waltz. Ekaterina Anisimova/AFP via Getty Images

    Eric Cole, a former CIA officer and CEO of Secure Anchor, said the importance of Greenland from a national defense perspective is no small matter and will increase with time.

    “Greenland’s geographic position places it directly beneath the shortest flight paths between North America, Europe, and Eurasia, making it a natural vantage point for monitoring air and missile activity,” Cole told The Epoch Times.

    “Sensors based in Greenland can track aircraft, space objects, and missile launches that would otherwise go undetected until much later in their trajectory. This early detection is critical for both U.S. and NATO forces, as it expands warning times and improves coordinated response options.”

    For land- and space-based defense systems, Greenland has ideal access to the polar orbit because of its geographical location.

    “Polar-orbiting satellites are particularly critical for modern intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance capabilities because of the unique view these orbits provide of the Earth,” space operations expert Pat Jameson told The Epoch Times.

    The region also serves as a hub for fusing data from satellites, radar arrays, and maritime sensors into a unified operational picture, according to Cole.

    “As Arctic routes open due to climate change, Greenland’s role as a surveillance anchor only grows,” he said. “In effect, it acts as a forward lookout post for the entire North Atlantic security architecture.”

    China in 2018 declared itself a “near-Arctic state,” announcing that it would be “an important stakeholder in Arctic affairs” in building what it called a “Polar Silk Road” access ramp to its global Belt and Road Initiative.

    A 2024 RAND Corp. analysis highlighted that the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) has been increasing its Arctic presence since the 1990s, with state-sponsored Chinese companies investing in oil, gas, mineral exploration, infrastructure, and in developing trans-Arctic sea routes.

    Defense Strategy

    Former diplomat and U.S. War Department official Armand Cucciniello told The Epoch Times that Greenland is becoming increasingly important to U.S. defense strategy.

    “It has five main strategic and operational benefits to the United States: Positioning early warning radars, space surveillance capabilities, monitoring naval movements in the North Atlantic, access to new shipping routes, and deposits of critical minerals and rare earth elements used in modern technologies,” Cucciniello said.

    “With polar ice caps melting, the region is becoming an arena for increased great power competition, most notably with Russia but also China.”

    Greenland is framed by the only two waterways linking the Arctic Ocean to the North Atlantic: the Davis Strait on the Baffin Sea to the west, and the Greenland-Iceland-UK Gap in the Denmark Strait on the Greenland Sea to the east.

    Thule—now Pituffik Space Base—remains the only official U.S. military installation in Greenland, a key early warning outpost of 150 military personnel within a strategic eye-blink of Russian airbases on Arctic Ocean islands, including Nagurskoye Airbase—where satellite imagery has shown Russian deployment of powerful MiG-31 “Foxhound” fighters.

    But now Greenland may even be more important geo-strategically than it was during World War II and the Cold War, analysts say.

    ...

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    Default Re: Could America buy Greenland?

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    This is a little off-topic on this thread. But it's quite interesting (not to mention quite an indictment of American education!) to see Trump, his image creators, and the whole White House communications staff — not to mention the mainstream US media who are joining in on all this — having no clue that there are no penguins in Greenland.

    This was published by The White House, just one of many different images and cartoons of penguins and Greenland that are easy to find.





    They do, however, have polar bears in Greenland. Perhaps they could ditch the misplaced penguin and arrange for a polar bear next to the Greenland flag to greet Trump and remind him of where his place is on the food chain in this part of the world.
    I posted the image of Trump as a bird for humor, not politics. I intended to poke a bit of fun at Trump. When I see him, I will tell him where he is in the food chain in that part of the world.



    Oops, apparently, he tamed the polar bear and brought little JD Vance along for the ride.

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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    there are no penguins in Greenland
    You didn't get the word?

    Trump is immigrating a waddle of penguins into Greenland, to out-vote the current residents and vote to join the United States.
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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    there are no penguins in Greenland
    You didn't get the word?

    Trump is immigrating a waddle of penguins into Greenland, to out-vote the current residents and vote to join the United States.
    Made me laugh! (And for the native Greenlanders, it would give ICE a completely new meaning)

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    Wow, who knew a Waddle of Penguins? I had to look it up:

    A waddle of penguins is a collective noun: Origin: The term gained official recognition at the Fourth International Penguin Conference in 2000, though it was used informally earlier. (A Penguin Conference, I can only imagine) lol. On top of that, they found a Waddle of 1.5 million Adelie penguins on the aptly named Danger Islands in Antarctica with the use of satellite technology. Overpopulation will probably mean that immigration to the Arctic Region is already underway. If they arrive illegally, ICE will be extremely busy.

    A Waddle of Penguins



    Researchers recently spotted a supercolony of some 1.5 million Adelie penguins on the aptly named Danger Islands in Antarctica with the use of satellite technology. Host Steve Curwood discusses the significance of this discovery for the Adelie population with P. Dee Boersma, conservation biologist at the University of Washington, and asks why she and many other people find these birds that fly through water so irresistible.

    https://www.loe.org/shows/segments.h...12&segmentID=5

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    We are listening and reading so much about this topic Greenland... there are intentions behind.. for years back for sure... and also involves some Epstein friends and him too... interesting talk.. I am placing this video here, because this thread is not exclusively about Epstein...

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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    there are no penguins in Greenland
    You didn't get the word?

    Trump is immigrating a waddle of penguins into Greenland, to out-vote the current residents and vote to join the United States.

    Yes and I think Lala was hired for a photo shoot re the image in question -

    Adorable Pet Penguin in Japan Goes Shopping for Fish!! (2:05)


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    This article was published on ExplorersWeb, a non-political site devoted only to nature, exploration and mountaineering.

    How a Secret Greenland Military Base Hastened the Collapse of an Arctic World

    https://explorersweb.com/how-a-secre...n-arctic-world

    Thule Air Base in the 21st century

    Today, as Greenland once again becomes a strategic prize, history seems poised to repeat itself. Staying with the Polar Inuit means refusing to speak of territory while erasing those who inhabit it.

    On June 16, 1951, Jean Malaurie was traveling by dog sled along the northwest coast of Greenland. He had set out alone, almost on a whim, with a modest grant from the French National Center for Scientific Research (CNRS), officially to study periglacial landscapes. In reality, this encounter with people whose relationship with the world followed an entirely different logic would shape a singular destiny.

    That day, after many months among the Inuit, at the critical moment of the spring thaw, Malaurie was traveling with a few hunters. He was exhausted, filthy, and emaciated. One of the Inuit touched his shoulder: “Takou, look.” A thick yellow cloud was rising in the sky. Through his binoculars, Malaurie first thought it was a mirage:
    “A city of hangars and tents, of metal sheets and aluminum, dazzling in the sunlight, amid smoke and dust…Three months earlier, the valley had been calm and empty of people. I had pitched my tent there, on a clear summer day, in a flowering, untouched tundra.”
    Operation Blue Jay

    The breath of this new city, he later wrote, “would never let us go.” Giant excavators hacked at the ground, trucks poured debris into the sea, aircraft circled overhead. Malaurie was hurled from the Stone Age into the Atomic Age. He had just discovered the secret American base of Thule, codenamed Operation Blue Jay.


    The American base at Thule in the early 1950s

    Behind this innocuous name lay a colossal logistical operation. The United States feared a Soviet nuclear attack via the polar route. In a single summer, some 120 ships and 12,000 men were deployed to a bay that had previously known only the silent glide of kayaks. Greenland’s population at the time numbered barely 23,000 people. In just 104 days, on permanently frozen ground, a technological city capable of hosting giant B-36 bombers carrying nuclear warheads emerged. More than 1,200 kilometers north of the Arctic Circle, and in almost total secrecy, the United States built one of the largest military bases ever constructed outside its continental territory. A defense agreement was signed with Denmark in the spring of 1951, but Operation Blue Jay was already underway: the American decision had been taken in 1950.


    Thule Air Base

    The Inuit world

    Malaurie immediately grasped that the sheer scale of the operation amounted, in effect, to an annexation of the Inuit world. A system founded on speed, machinery, and accumulation had violently and blindly entered a space governed by tradition, cyclical time, hunting, and waiting.

    The blue jay is a loud, aggressive, fiercely territorial bird. Thule lies halfway between Washington and Moscow along the polar route. In the era of intercontinental hypersonic missiles, once Soviet and now Russian, it is this same geography that still underpins the argument of “vital necessity” invoked by Donald Trump in his calls to annex Greenland.


    The Thule base has a strategic position between the USA and Russia

    The most tragic immediate outcome of Operation Blue Jay was not military, but human. In 1953, to secure the perimeter of the base and its radar installations, authorities decided to relocate the entire local Inughuit population to Qaanaaq, roughly 100 kilometers further north.

    The displacement was swift, forced, and carried out without consultation, severing the organic bond between these people and their ancestral hunting territories. A “root people” was uprooted to make way for an airstrip.

    It is this brutal tipping point that Malaurie identifies as the moment when traditional Inuit societies began to collapse. In these societies, hunting is not merely a survival technique but an organizing principle of the social world.

    The Inuit universe is an economy of meaning, made of relationships, gestures, and transmission through the generations that confer recognition, role, and place in relation to each individual. This intimate coherence, which constitutes the strength of these societies, also renders them acutely vulnerable when an external system suddenly destroys their territorial and symbolic foundations.

    Collapse of traditional structures

    Today, Greenlandic society is largely sedentary and urbanized. More than a third of its 56,500 inhabitants live in Nuuk, the capital, and nearly the entire population now resides in permanent coastal towns and settlements.

    Housing reflects this abrupt transition. In the larger towns, many people live in concrete apartment blocks built in the 1960s and 1970s, often deteriorating and overcrowded. The economy is heavily dependent on industrial fishing geared toward export. Subsistence hunting and fishing are still commonplace.

    Modern rifles, GPS devices, snowmobiles, and satellite connections now work hand in hand with old habits. Hunting remains a marker of identity, but it no longer shapes either the economy or intergenerational transmission.

    The fallout on a human level from this shift is massive. Greenland today has one of the highest suicide rates in the world, particularly among young Inuit men. Contemporary social indicators, such as suicide rates, alcoholism, and domestic violence, are widely documented. Many studies link them to the speed of social transformation, forced sedentarization, and the breakdown of traditional systems of transmission.


    American military maneuvers at Thule

    The thermonuclear accident

    The logic underpinning Thule reached a point of no return on January 21, 1968. During a continuous nuclear alert mission, a US Air Force B-52G bomber under the Chrome Dome program, crashed into the sea ice some ten kilometers from Thule. It was carrying four thermonuclear bombs. The conventional explosives designed to initiate the nuclear reaction detonated on impact. There was no nuclear explosion, but the blast scattered plutonium, uranium, americium, and tritium over a vast area.

    In the days that followed, Washington and Copenhagen launched Project Crested Ice, a large-scale recovery and decontamination operation ahead of the spring thaw. Around 1,500 Danish workers were mobilized to scrape the ice and collect contaminated snow.

    Decades later, many of them initiated legal proceedings, claiming they had worked without adequate information or protection. These cases continued until 2018–2019 and resulted only in limited political compensation, without any legal recognition of responsibility. No comprehensive epidemiological study has ever been conducted among the local Inuit populations.

    Now renamed Pituffik Space Base, the former Thule base is one of the major strategic nodes of the U.S. military apparatus. Integrated into the U.S. Space Force, it plays a central role in missile warning and space surveillance in the Arctic, under maximum security conditions. It is not a relic of the Cold War, but an active pivot of contemporary geopolitics.


    Phone at Thule Air Base

    More of the same

    In The Last Kings of Thule (1953), Malaurie shows that indigenous peoples have never had a place at the heart of Western strategic thinking. Amid the great maneuvers of the world, Inuit existence becomes as peripheral as that of seals or butterflies.

    Donald Trump’s statements do not herald a new world. They seek to generalize a system that has been in place in Greenland for 75 years. Yet the position of one man cannot absolve us of our collective responsibilities. To hear today that Greenland “belongs” to Denmark and therefore falls under NATO, without even mentioning the Inuit, is to repeat an old colonial gesture: conceiving territories by erasing those who inhabit them.

    Portrait of a Greenland Inuk

    The Inuit remain invisible and unheard. Our societies continue to imagine themselves as adults facing infantilized, indigenous populations. Their knowledge, values, and ways of being are relegated to secondary variables. Difference does not fit within the categories that our societies know how to handle.


    The Inughuit from Thule were relocated to a new settlement called Qaanaaq, above

    Following Jean Malaurie, my own research approaches humanity through its margins. Whether studying hunter-gatherer societies or what remains of Neanderthals once stripped of our projections, the “Other” remains the blind spot for our perceptions. We fail to see how entire worlds collapse when difference ceases to be thinkable.

    Malaurie ended his first chapter on Thule with these words:
    “Nothing was planned to imagine the future with any sense of elevation.”
    What must be feared above all is not the sudden disappearance of a people, but their silent and radical relegation within a world that speaks about them without ever seeing or hearing them.

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    Trump (played by Canadian comedian) pushes for the acquisition of Greenland. It's interesting to hear real Greenlanders voice their opinion (i.e. NO!).

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    "In a show of solidarity with Greenland an Inuit delegation and the Canadian Coast Guard icebreaker CCGS Jean Goodwill travelled to the semi-autonomous Danish territory ahead of the opening of Canada’s first permanent consulate there."

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