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    Dear Friends, trust me on this. This is the very highest quality Masterclass, which I could have shared on any one of a dozen or more different threads on seemingly completely different topics. But here David Icke connects them all.

    The breadth of this 3 hour presentation is universal. Host Clayton Morris from Redacted was just listening carefully almost all of the time. David ad libbed it all, but could have been speaking to an audience of thousands in Wembley Stadium.

    I've spent a bunch of quality personal time with David, and also organized one of his marathon 10-hour events. But this is the best I've heard.

    I'll say more about this later. For now I just wanted to post the video.


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    We are not living in a simulation, this is an absurd simplification of reality: I think Icke gets carried away with his basic insights, what...I have the temerity to question David Icke?
    I have the both the right, & the knowledge to question this: the implicate order & the explicit manifestation of the physical universe is the result of Light, what David refers to as the 'electro-magnetic spectrum' which we humans can only sense a small fraction of. The ubiquity of Light is the essential creative source of everything - pair creation, a photon is both a wave/particle & is the only energy which can create other particles, this is what underpins our entire universe, it is not simulated it is created. I think we need to get this simulated concept right out of our minds, it is a red herring, very popular & often referred to, but we are not receiving absolute wisdom here, Ego is not our concern, acclaim & fame, clouds our judgement, we can be seduced by the siren call of popularity.
    I think Icke has some very valuable material to offer, but we should not be afraid to apply our critical thinking to anything - we are not living in a simulation. We are immersed within a created PROCESS.

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    Quote Posted by Mike Gorman (here)
    We are not living in a simulation, this is an absurd simplification of reality: ............

    I think Icke has some very valuable material to offer, but we should not be afraid to apply our critical thinking to anything - we are not living in a simulation. We are immersed within a created PROCESS.
    Yes, 100%, and that's been my major bone of contention for really quite some time now; no, we are not living in a simulation, but we are being slowly pushed towards something which is synthetic in its nature, a kind of synthetic aether.

    A simulacrum really: man-made and lacking Divine imagination.
    “If a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.” - Thoreau

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    Quote Posted by Mike Gorman (here)
    We are not living in a simulation, this is an absurd simplification of reality: I think Icke gets carried away with his basic insights, what...I have the temerity to question David Icke?
    I have the both the right, & the knowledge to question this: the implicate order & the explicit manifestation of the physical universe is the result of Light, what David refers to as the 'electro-magnetic spectrum' which we humans can only sense a small fraction of. The ubiquity of Light is the essential creative source of everything - pair creation, a photon is both a wave/particle & is the only energy which can create other particles, this is what underpins our entire universe, it is not simulated it is created. I think we need to get this simulated concept right out of our minds, it is a red herring, very popular & often referred to, but we are not receiving absolute wisdom here, Ego is not our concern, acclaim & fame, clouds our judgement, we can be seduced by the siren call of popularity.
    I think Icke has some very valuable material to offer, but we should not be afraid to apply our critical thinking to anything - we are not living in a simulation. We are immersed within a created PROCESS.
    Dear Mike, you posted this 15 years ago on the thread titled Michael Talbot - Rare Holographic Universe Lecture:

    ~~~
    I recall about 20 years ago there was a paperback publication with a similar title, this had excerpts from the work of: Rupert Sheldrake, Max Planck, Bohm, Schrodinger and other 'high flying' researchers-proposed the same concept of 'The Holographic Universe'

    This was responsible for introducing this 'paradigm' to me, part of my waking up you could say-bless these guys for taking the trouble to explain this stuff to those of us not privvy to the high uplands of research.

    Indeed, here's the lecture:



    And this is the thread discussing Michael Talbot's book. which is also in the library. Shared on the thread is the account of how Talbot was given the whole Holographic Universe thesis from ETs.
    https://avalonlibrary.net/ebooks/Mic...20Universe.pdf



    And I made this post on this thread, referring to Linda Howe's presentation about the whole topic:
    ~~~
    An excellent presentation.

    Two things are significant here:

    1) Linda repeats the VERY important information that Michael Talbot (the author of the seminal The Holographic Universe) was an abductee. Linda has told this story several times, now, and it deserves to be retold many times over. The importance is that according to Budd Hopkins, who had worked with Talbot and had relayed the story to Linda, Talbot had received the core thesis of his book from his abducting ETs.

    Here's the book. It's a masterwork, and I can't recommend it too highly.
    I have to say, rather horrifying to me was when Linda asked the audience (at 51:44) how many had heard about or read the book. Linda counted 25-30 people in what must have been a room of a couple hundred or more. OMG. That's a travesty.

    READ IT!! It's a paradigm changer.

    2) Linda recounts the VERY fascinating story of Jerry Wills and the Stargate of Aramu Muru.

    See this thread here for much more:
    What was valuable for me was Linda's replaying of her interview with Jerry Wills, which is from 38:40—51:40. It's the the most comprehensive account of his extraordinary experience that I've heard. (Clearly it'd been published before, but I was unaware of it. It may be behind Linda's Earthfiles.com paywall, of course.)

    There's no doubt at all that what happened to Jerry was real. (For readers who know nothing about this, Jerry actually went through the stargate. Not mentioned in this interview was that he figured he'd been away for maybe as long as 10-11 hours, but his wife, who'd seen him disappear with her own eyes, reported that he reappeared after just a few minutes.)

    Jerry Wills is impressive to listen to. And do visit the Aramu Muru thread above for more information and videos.

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    Quote Posted by Mike Gorman (here)
    We are not living in a simulation, this is an absurd simplification of reality: ............

    I think Icke has some very valuable material to offer, but we should not be afraid to apply our critical thinking to anything - we are not living in a simulation. We are immersed within a created PROCESS.
    Yes, 100%, and that's been my major bone of contention for really quite some time now; no, we are not living in a simulation, but we are being slowly pushed towards something which is synthetic in its nature, a kind of synthetic aether.

    A simulacrum really: man-made and lacking Divine imagination.
    Isn't it theoretically possible that some of us may be?

    I personally see it more like a "matrix of mind reality"

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    I think that "Simulation" is the wrong word, we are more likely within a mathematical construct. It's all numbers and numbers can be manipulated to a certain/finite extent. There are humans who believe that they can do this through magic, algorithms etc. So yes, we are being pushed towards a kind of synthetic reality by bad actors. The question is how far can this be ultimately taken. Is there a boundary through which we cannot penetrate or, as we push, will the fabric of our known reality break down completely?

    Oh well, I've just quaffed an Old Speckled Hen and am feeling somewhat philosophical :-)

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    I think that the term "simulation" or also-often-overused "illusion" buzz word is not right indeed. However all of it it is more of a linguistic issue than a real philosophical or belief system problem.
    "Simulation" implies always something like "not real" (such as "illusion", etc.). Everything is REAL for me. It is just not what it is on the surface or given to us be mainstream science which is still too materialistic/physicalistic.
    The simulation or holographic or "digital" (see Tom Campbell) principle might be underlying and correct, but these are also just WORDs serving as metaphores to describe "REAL-ity" as it is, but only in approximation.
    As said, our language is limited, so we as people discussing it have to resort to some 'concepts' that do not REAL-ly cover what in REAL-ity is going on. Am I making sense? Probably not. Well, I tried.
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    For the last 6 or 8 months I've been watching the actions of the Trump Administration and thinking: "Are the actually that stupid? Are they trying to collapse their own government? Could they be so brazen and open about their depravity? Why would they do such a thing? " After watching this video I now understand that the first three questions are No, Yes and Yes, and David Icke clearly explains the "why" question in this video. My only question now is that will the Epstein Files, which now clearly prove Trump to be a pedophile, child rapist and trafficker, bring an end to Trump or help him in his quest to destroy our government.

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    slow hand clap for Icke throwing more fuel onto the anti Trump PSYOP......

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    I've watched about half of the Icke on Redacted piece.... and I have mixed feelings about it - and him...

    Obviously he has done a lot of research and many influential speaking engagements over the years and carved out a very successful niche for himself - he's famous and popular - that much is clear - I do like him and respect the work he's done although there is a touch of something going on that I can't quite put my finger on...

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    It was interesting to hear again how it all began for him and now I hear it again I think that he had a spontaneous kundalini 'erruption' - that began when he was going through the strain of the career change from football and the new job at the BBC..... starting in waves in this country and reaching a pitch in Peru... what he describes is a classic kundalini experience, I think, although I'm not sure if he has ever described it as such....

    I'm not sure if Betty Shine actually predicted his rise to World Fame per se or whether her saying that encouraged him to actually achieve it and make it happen - which is a big achievement by any standard, who could deny that -

    I think the 'Reptilian' Shape Shifting thing is probably because we are hybrids and part Inter Dimensional Being and part 'something from Earth' - and the Inter Dimensional part sometimes comes out a bit or a lot....

    that's all for now....
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    Ounka

    1995 Epstein Files: A Dallas driver overheard Trump talk of "abusing a girl."

    A victim later told him Trump and Epstein raped her. She was soon found dead with her head "blown off."

    https://x.com/OunkaOnX/status/2017453449248706715



    Syrian Girl

    🚨Epstein HORROR‼️ eyewitness said Israeli agent Epstein had politicians rape, kill then eat children.

    This corroborates the account of 21-year-old Gabriela Rico Jimenez .

    https://x.com/Partisangirl/status/2017459377155047792



    Brian Allen

    🚨 NEW: An affidavit signed under penalty of perjury by a witness identified as “Tiffany Doe” alleges she personally heard Trump threaten a plaintiff with “disappearing like another 12-year-old” and warned he could have her family killed.

    This is sworn testimony. Not a rumor. Not a tweet. Not hearsay.

    H/t aronparnas

    https://x.com/allenanalysis/status/2017665216209633452



    Ounka

    1995 Epstein Files: A Dallas driver overheard Trump talk of "abusing a girl."

    A victim later told him Trump and Epstein raped her. She was soon found dead with her head "blown off."

    https://x.com/OunkaOnX/status/2017453449248706715





    Bassem Youssef Commentary

    I have a headache, high blood pressure and my eyes hurt just from what I read yesterday. Human sacrifice, torture and murder of children and victims. They can't be human like us.

    https://x.com/bassem_youssef9/status...21443865882679



    SilencedSirs◼️

    The Epstein files reveal horrifying events involving the American elite.

    It is alleged that George H. W. Bush raped a male victim, and that the same victim was also subjected to a ritual sacrifice in which his feet were cut off with a sword.

    The victim says he witnessed a child being torn apart and having their intestines pulled out aboard a yacht.

    He says the people on the yacht ate the intestinal waste.

    https://x.com/SilentlySirs/status/2017520230944190706

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    Bethany O’Leary 🇺🇸 🦅

    🚨I just saw this material from the Epstein files that was not redacted, and I feel physically sick. They were literally murdering and eating children and babies. The evidence is here.

    If even a fraction of this is true, we are looking at evil on a scale most people don’t want to believe is possible. Children. Absolute innocence. Destroyed, while powerful people walked free.

    How much evidence is enough? How much horror do Americans have to see before they demand real “accountability”?

    These people have been protected for decades, and somehow we’re supposed to accept that justice will magically appear now? It WONT!!!

    Imagine if it were your child. Your family. Your life.

    This isn’t politics anymore. This is humanity. And the fact that those responsible still seem untouchable should terrify every single one of us.

    IF THIS DOESN’T CAUSE AN UPRISING…. Of biblical proportions, I’ve lost faith in America completely!

    https://x.com/BBMagaMom/status/2017596549862215847

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    S͎a͎l͎a͎d͎i͎n͎🇸🇴⚖️🕋✍️

    The Epstein files are DARK.

    East Africa trips. Kenya safaris. Maasai villages. Somalia mentioned.
    “Can bring a little baby back for you… or two.”

    That’s child trafficking language, exploiting Maasai & Somali kids under the cover of NGOs, safaris, and “aid.”

    Africa was treated like a hunting ground.

    Read the files yourself. 👀

    https://x.com/InaHassan3/status/2017443405085675637

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    and another thread goes down the pan

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    Lord Bebo
    🇺🇸🇲🇽 Videos seized by Mexican authorities!

    Richard Marcinko, founder of US Navy SEAL Team 6, possessed videos of Epstein & other US citizens with minors.

    https://x.com/MyLordBebo/status/2017443668966228048

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    SilencedSirs◼️

    🇺🇸 INSANE: “THEY ATE HUMAN FLESH”

    What the 21-year-old Gabriela Rico Jimenez claimed hysterically is now collaborate by the Epstein files!

    She disappeared that night forever. Who disappeared her?

    https://x.com/SilentlySirs/status/2017516848346996766

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    David Icke

    I have been exposing Father Bush as a brutal, violent mega paedophile in my books since the 1990s. The man would give pure evil a bad name - as would his sidekick Cheney. See also Cathy O'Brien's Trance-Formation of America

    https://x.com/davidicke/status/2017409007707725863

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    Babies were dismembered? Feet were cut? I am speechless. This is the testimony of an Epstein victim

    https://x.com/UnSubtleDesi/status/2017472867127165098

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    Quote Posted by jaybee (here)
    and another thread goes down the pan
    Made me laugh!

    David Icke has been screaming from the rooftops about high level pedophilia, trafficking and ritual abuse since before Jimmy Saville was publicly outed. (And of course, he's been highly critical of almost every politician of every party in every nation — not merely Donald Trump. He was scathing about Biden, Obama and the Clintons as well.)

    Besides this currently active thread being relevant to his presentation yesterday...
    ... all these others are also right there in the index of everything he discussed and connected.

    (In alphabetical order, only a very partial list)

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    I remember that Bill, yes the Holographic universe, I think this is a bit different to this 'Simulation' idea, as a few have suggested I think there are problems with this expression, I think David Icke is referring to something other than the architecture of the cosmos - I was leaning into the Arthur M Young ideas of Light being the source of 'everything' (Fiat Lux) whereas David is more talking about the human cultural construct which is more obviously built by us all collectively agreeing on axiomatic ideas - it is more of a perspective clash.
    I think a lot of the problems people have with David Icke are down to his style of talking, he has become increasingly emphatic, even aggressive in some ways because of the push back he received in the very early days after his 'download' - perhaps I need to review a few things, I usually do!

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