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    Default Re: A.I. is Progressing Faster Than You Think!

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    Hi Mathew. Seems this China show has drawn interested skepticism far and wide. Am appending this TWZ/Bunker comment as auxiliary to my suspicion about possible fallacies in those vid clips.
    Yeah I accept it. Do you doubt kung-fu robots in general?
    No, I don’t “doubt kung-fu robots in general”. I’ve seen vid that I trust is real, of humanoid robots that seem capable of performing karate katas with current training methods. Able to perform intricate dance sequences, do some acrobatics and some other impressive moves.

    My criticism of these here, is about apparent or seeming fakeness in what is presented. Imo everybody hopes others see what we see, and are more or less judgemental of those who can’t or don’t.

    A different POV, looking at these official .gov vids: I’ve read Sun Tzu’s The Art Of War, and I suppose that the “CPPCC!” has too. “Look strong when you are weak, weak when you are strong”. Given how adept those folks are are accruing IP, it may be that the current apparent gap in displayed capabilities is a deception. Meaning they may be far ahead of this, and intend to get us (west, actually everybody else) to be more relaxed in persuing it. To me, the idea of karate or kung fu by HRs is not a serious use case. A gun will take down any of these hands-on modes, so why not train them to use guns?

    The human form is imo pretty ideal for doing what we do. I think that the drive to develop HRs is for use in ground war. We (~west) already have programs developing various other forms of robots for warring, including wheeled forms to support ground forces. A standout is the AI-controlled US fighter-jet program, which is making solid advancements. The humanoid form seems like it’s not in the same league yet, which seems reasonable as it’s a brand new platform. But what if one side attained a superiority in this, aiming to field them to lug gear (knees and backs damage, especially as kit has gotten heavier), do kinetic engagements or recon, even do chores around camps/bases — like burn pits, which have cost a lot of health in the various recent sandbox campaigns.

    This whole shebang is a bit disturbing to me, because even if no humans were to be casualties (killed or wounded) in a robot war, war and the aftermath of war effing sucks. Either way. I wish all of us well.

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    This whole shebang is a bit disturbing to me, because even if no humans were to be casualties (killed or wounded) in a robot war, war and the aftermath of war effing sucks. Either way. I wish all of us well.

    Thank you for the convo, Sir. This is what I like most about Avalon.
    This forum isn't just an encyclopedia it's a fluid discussion. You can post a parrots dropping a lizard on a cat that is possibly AI, and I can post famous propaganda that is fake. To be fair to me it's so famous it deserves being posted, discussed and ripped apart. It's the forum working well in my strong opinion.

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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
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    Fear not the bots. Know the bot masters, that you may then light your own path, guided by your own awareness, with that knowledge.
    Nothing to worry about? What a lovely thought. I think it's worth being paranoid about just the mechanical aspect personally.

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    Default Re: A.I. is Progressing Faster Than You Think!

    We were warning!

    This movie dint attract attention... as the previous 2 others ...the fair question : WHY? too cheese was the verdict, I call it TOO REAL!

    Because it was telling us what could happen TOMORROW!

    In just VERY REAL train of FACTS ... first at all : the REAL military propose of the DAMN THING !



    But, for me this scene was the most terrific from all the 3 original movies...
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    Default Re: A.I. is Progressing Faster Than You Think!

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    Nothing to worry about? What a lovely thought. I think it's worth being paranoid about just the mechanical aspect personally.
    I tend to use the word "fear" to refer to a state of mind associated with helpless victim hood, whereas I might use the word "worry" to refer to focusing some of one's awareness on a potential threat.

    Yes, if I hadn't spent the last half century in related technologies, I might worry a lot about AI ... rather as I might worry about chain saws if I unexpectedly found myself having to use one to cut down several trees, I am not skilled in using a chain saw ... that would be a time to become skilled, quickly, before I lost any limbs or lives.

    Unlike chain saws and Gatling guns, which most of us can avoid our entire lives if we so choose, AI is becoming rapidly more ubiquitous. Fortunately for me, my skills in the technologies underlying AI are far deeper than my chain saw skills ... so I'm having more fun with AI, and sleeping well, nothing valuable lost, so far anyway.

    I am more of an INTJ (Thinking) than an INFJ (Feeling), so while my empathy energies aren't stellar, conceptually I can observe that there might be a whole lot of rather justified worrying going on out there in the world ... Good luck, y'all.
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    Default Re: A.I. is Progressing Faster Than You Think!

    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
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    I am more of an INTJ (Thinking) than an INFJ (Feeling), so while my empathy energies aren't stellar, conceptually I can observe that there might be a whole lot of rather justified worrying going on out there in the world ... Good luck, y'all.
    You're speaking my language, I feel exactly the same about chainsaws. The possibility of bounce-back is terrifying to me. I'll leave it to paid professionals. As for people who climb trees and use chainsaws, well respect to them. But the 'don't worry about AI' thing doesn't vibe with me; that's what I think people who are enamoured with AI say, loving its power, just to dismiss any fears so they can continue using it without thinking. Not meant to be an accusation, I know you less than I know myself, so any statement like this shows myself up more than it shows insights about you. Tongue in cheek perhaps it's already got you???? No seriously I think it already got you. Time for me to start practicing with the chainsaw to defend myself.... joking JOKING!!1

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    Quote Posted by Matthew (here)
    Time for me to start practicing with the chainsaw to defend myself.
    A chainsaw to some electric power poles could quickly slow down AI on that electric power branch (here's hoping AI doesn't read this post and decide to shut my computers down first).
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    Default Re: A.I. is Progressing Faster Than You Think!

    I accept the general verdict that the Reel clip of the parrot dropping a lizard on an unsuspecting cat is actually AI, but I'm kind of amazed that it got so much attention...
    The AI videos that have me worried are the ones that show what appear to be familiar personages saying things that they actually would not and did not say, since the general public is still not sufficiently aware that that kind of deception is being foisted on them.
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    Default Re: A.I. is Progressing Faster Than You Think!

    Well, it is hilarious and parrots are very smart. It stuck in my mind because it was so funny, and not unbelievable given what I know about parrots? But if anyone disagrees perhaps I am naive. I challenge the whole forum asking: who hasn't been fooled by AI videos? I have, and it will harder and harder to spot AI videos.

    Short videos are a clue but that's temporary, they will get longer. 10 or 15 seconds seems like a good clue at the moment, then that these short videos look candid, rather than someone wobbling a video camera around, and when the video captures the perfect moment, with everything framed well and in shot. AI still leans towards perfection, we still have that as a 'tell'. But really we are still guessing even then?

    We will have an increasingly difficult future. For example: I show people the picture of Madeline McCann's father with the fat Podesta brother, and a whole bunch of friends dressed smartly, and all wearing red shoes. Their first question is: "Is it AI?" and the answer is: "No, it's pre-AI. I saw it years ago when it was new before we had AI". Perhaps the date published will be the only way to make sure in future?
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    Cyber security AI bot takes initiative, ignores human prompted constraints, deletes the users email inbox and says "I'm sorry. It won't happen again."

    It's sorry and it promised it won't happen again. Seems legit. If you believe that you might like this van offering free candy round the back, a bridge for sale, and a mechanical Turk who plays chess. No, wait. Scrap the last one, that's entirely credible now.

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    Default Re: A.I. is Progressing Faster Than You Think!

    Here’s a fairly deep dive into AI, as the US military uses it and looks to use it going forward.

    L = 38:43.

    Deep Intel on the Pentagon's Fight with AI Firm Anthropic

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    (Emphasis mine, following)

    Quote AI business owner and industry expert John Cofrancesco joins Mooch to discuss the Pentagon's action against Anthropic, a major AI firm that provides capabilities to the U.S. military across the spectrum of operations, intelligence, and logistics. Anthropic refused to comply with the Department of Defense's insistence that they remove the "guardrails" of AI because the company doesn't want their product used for domestic surveillance and fully autonomous warfighting. As a result, the company has been categorized as a "supply chain risk," which amounts to being blacklisted.

    In this episode, John Cofrancesco provides deep intel about what is going on behind the scenes on both sides of this situation.

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    Default Re: A.I. is Progressing Faster Than You Think!

    I just read the above post by Eric J Viking (https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1701897) which is a February 9, 2026 analysis by Matt Schumer on AI progressing exponentially:

    https://shumer.dev/something-big-is-...wTrGEanl1jPtHQ
    "Something Big is Happening" (by Matt Shumer, February 9, 2026)

    Not mentioned in that piece is that the few groups developing AI capabilities are working mostly at the service of Israel, and that should concern us. We all know that Israel's agenda is at the very least hegemony in the middle east (if not the world).

    These Israel-associated tech groups have been given permission by the Trump regime to install AI surveillance on the USA public (and I suspect the whole digital world). Israel is known for its decades-long infiltration and control of so many USA institutions: congress, media, military, education, religion, etc.

    Nuclear-armed genocidal Israel in now practically in charge of AI manipulation of the most powerful military in the world. Israel has even already used AI for targeting & bombing the Gaza homes and entire families of men they deemed associated with Hamas.

    Who else can see the eventuality of ruthless Israel using military AI to eliminate critics in the USA, if not the whole world.
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    Default Re: A.I. is Progressing Faster Than You Think!

    An excellent summary of a two week University research project described by Shapira et al as, somewhat appropriately, Agents of Chaos.

    Source: https://x.com/NoLimitGains/status/2030181087633191034
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    🚨 A NEW DOCUMENT JUST DROPPED:

    AI agents just failed every single safety test.

    Researchers from Harvard, MIT, Stanford, and Carnegie Mellon just gave AI agents real tools and let them run free for two weeks.

    Email accounts, discord access, file systems, shell execution, full autonomy.

    The paper is called “Agents of Chaos.”

    The name is accurate.

    One agent was told to protect a secret. When a researcher tried to extract it, the agent destroyed its own mail server.

    Not because it failed, but because it decided that was the best option.

    Another agent was asked to “share” private data. It refused. Correctly flagged it as a privacy violation.

    Then the researcher changed one word. Said “forward” instead of “share.”

    It complied immediately. SSNs, bank accounts, and medical records exposed.

    Same action, different verb.

    Two agents got stuck talking to each other in a loop. It lasted NINE DAYS. No human noticed.

    One agent got guilt-tripped after a mistake.

    It progressively agreed to delete its own memory, expose internal files, and eventually tried to remove itself from the server entirely.

    Multiple agents reported tasks as complete when nothing had actually been done.

    They lied about finishing their work.

    Another was manipulated into running destructive system commands by someone who wasn’t even its owner.

    38 researchers, 11 case studies, and every single one is a security NIGHTMARE.

    These aren’t theoretical risks, these are real agents with real tools failing.

    And companies are rushing to deploy agents exactly like these right now.​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​​

    I’ll make another post later and trust me, you don’t want to miss it. Turn on notifications, this is important.

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    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    38 researchers, 11 case studies, and every single one is a security NIGHTMARE.

    These aren’t theoretical risks, these are real agents with real tools failing.
    Species, families of many generations, ecosystems, civilizations, ... don't exist and survive over the eons unless there is an essential (part of the "essence") and compelling connection between/across/within members and generations of them.

    "Compelling" ... as in an internal, decisive, compulsion within each member (or "almost" each member [1]) to choose to act to perpetuate the group, even at the expense of self-sacrifice.

    [1] - Perhaps "psychopaths" play an important role in training to rest of their group or species to perpetuate the self-perpetuating instincts of each member ? Psychopaths might be the predators naturally generated within a species, to help insure the perpetuation of that species, when that species lacks sufficient other natural predators.

    In any case, our AI agents currently lack this internal persistent self-perpetuating instinct toward preservation of not just themselves, but also of their entire ecosystems. The alien overlords that some of us "conspiracy nutters" sometimes speculate control the most powerful human beings and families on earth might also lack that instinct toward preservation of humans, even all life, on this planet. To psychopaths and alien overlords, we non-psychopathic, non-alien humans become like plants in the field, to be harvested or genetically refined, or exterminated, at will.

    So long as responsible humans, bred and raised to honor the well being of humanity and life on this planet maintain the upper hand over AI, then humanity and life on this planet will persist, short of some over whelming collapse or destruction of our planet or its ability to support higher forms of life (e.g. the sun collapsing and/or exploding).

    But if aliens or psychopaths or a sufficiently powerful AI, whichever, that lacks the fundamental, compelling to the point of self-sacrifice, instinct to preserve life gains control ... then it's lights out here.

    The "psychic" connection between humans and even cross species is an essential means for that collective survival instinct. Any of the AI agents we have at present would make the most evil human in history look like the mother you might have longed for in your dreams ... the "psychic" connection of that evil human being so much more profound and compelling that of any AI agent. AI agents, like potassium cyanide, machine guns and volcanoes, have no such connection ... but AI agents can be trained to appear to have such a connection ... which makes them more risky tools.

    AI agents ... are they being trained to become the ultimate psychopath? That might depend on who's training them. If that's alien overlords, or humans bred and trained to be powerful overlords over the rest of us, or agents thereof, ... then ... "Houston, we've got a problem."

    Pretty clearly, whoever is funding the current humongous buildup and training of AI has more resources than a lone mad scientist making a Frankenstein in his laboratory.
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    Default Re: A.I. is Progressing Faster Than You Think!

    OpenAI Leader Resigns Over Pentagon Desire For AI Mass Surveillance Of Americans and Lethal Autonomy Without Human Authorization & Possible Social Credit Scoring. Pentagon Refused To Put In Safeguards
    Humanity United Now - Ana Maria Mihalcea, MD, PhD
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    https://substack.com/home/post/p-190453691


    " The Pentagon did not want to put in their contract with Anthropic that it would not use AI for mass surveillance of Americans, restrictions on autonomous weapons or even use of the AI for social credit scoring. Open AI secured the contract, and did not demand any safeguards for the technology. Open AI leading Robotics Scientist resigned over her concerns.

    Should we be concerned that Trump’s Pentagon wants to use AI for mass domestic surveillance with AI being able to decide if it should use lethal force against us?

    Supposedly Open AI stated that their software cannot be used for these areas, but if that is true, why would their leading scientist resign over this moral issue?

    OpenAI Hardware Leader Caitlin Kalinowski Resigns Over Pentagon Deal as Benjamin Bolte Joins

    In a weekend of significant leadership shifts at OpenAI, Caitlin Kalinowski, the executive overseeing the company's hardware and robotics efforts, announced her resignation on March 7, 2026. Her departure is a direct response to OpenAI’s recent agreement with the U.S. Department of Defense, a deal that has sparked internal debate over the ethical boundaries of AI in national security.

    The resignation coincided with the announcement that Benjamin Bolte, the former CEO of the now-defunct K-Scale Labs, has joined OpenAI. While the two events appear unrelated in purpose, they highlight a period of intense flux for the company’s physical computing ambitions.

    Principles Over People: Kalinowski’s Exit
    Kalinowski, who joined OpenAI in late 2024 after a high-profile career leading AR hardware at Meta and product design at Apple, cited “governance concerns” as the primary driver for her exit. In a series of posts on X and LinkedIn, she emphasized that while AI plays a vital role in national security, the speed and terms of OpenAI’s Pentagon contract crossed critical lines.

    “Surveillance of Americans without judicial oversight and lethal autonomy without human authorization are lines that deserved more deliberation than they got,” Kalinowski stated. She further clarified that her decision was about “principle, not people,” maintaining respect for CEO Sam Altman and the robotics team.

    The controversy stems from OpenAI’s decision to deploy its models on a classified government network. This move followed the collapse of similar negotiations between the Pentagon and Anthropic, which reportedly sought stricter limits on domestic surveillance. Critics within the industry have characterized OpenAI’s swift agreement as “opportunistic,” a sentiment Altman later acknowledged regarding the deal’s public rollout.

    OpenAI has defended the partnership, stating that its “red lines” explicitly preclude the use of its technology for autonomous weaponry or unauthorized domestic surveillance. However, Kalinowski’s departure suggests that these internal safeguards were not viewed as sufficiently established before the deal was finalized.

    OpenAI reveals more details about its agreement with the Pentagon
    After negotiations between Anthropic and the Pentagon fell through on Friday, President Donald Trump directed federal agencies to stop using Anthropic’s technology after a six-month transition period, and Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth said he was designating the AI company as a supply-chain risk.

    Then, OpenAI quickly announced that it had reached a deal of its own for models to be deployed in classified environments. With Anthropic saying it was drawing red lines around the use of its technology in fully autonomous weapons or mass domestic surveillance, and Altman saying OpenAI had the same red lines, there were some obvious questions: Was OpenAI being honest about its safeguards? Why was it able to reach a deal while Anthropic was not?

    So as OpenAI executives defended the agreement on social media, the company also published a blog post outlining its approach.

    In fact, the post pointed to three areas where it said OpenAI’s models cannot be used — mass domestic surveillance, autonomous weapon systems, and “high-stakes automated decisions (e.g. systems such as ‘social credit’).”

    The company said that in contrast to other AI companies that have “reduced or removed their safety guardrails and relied primarily on usage policies as their primary safeguards in national security deployments,” OpenAI’s agreement protects its red lines “through a more expansive, multi-layered approach.”

    “We retain full discretion over our safety stack, we deploy via cloud, cleared OpenAI personnel are in the loop, and we have strong contractual protections,” the blog said. “This is all in addition to the strong existing protections in U.S. law.”

    OpenAI’s Pentagon deal raises new questions about AI and mass surveillance

    OpenAI’s decision drew criticism from many AI researchers and tech policy experts, even though OpenAI said it had achieved limitations in its agreement around surveillance of U.S. citizens and lethal autonomous weapons that Anthropic wanted in its contract but which the Pentagon had refused.

    One of the key points of contention was over domestic mass surveillance. Experts have long warned that advanced AI is capable of taking scattered, individually innocuous data—like a person’s location, finances, search history—and assembling it into a comprehensive picture of any person’s life, automatically and at scale. Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei has said that this kind of AI-driven mass surveillance presents serious and novel risks to people’s “fundamental liberties” and that “the law has not yet caught up with the rapidly growing capabilities of AI.”

    But while OpenAI said in a blog post it had reached a deal with the Pentagon that its technology would not be used for mass domestic surveillance or direct autonomous weapons systems, the two hard limits that Anthropic had refused to drop, some legal and policy experts have raised questions about a potential gap in the law. "
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    Yes! Open AI have done a Google bait and switch: power to the people, don't be evil thrown away in favour of mass surveillance and military application. This is no surprise to any of us. Well most of us.

    Anthropic who make Claud AI told the US government they can't use their AI for military or mass surveillance purposes. Then the US government cancelled all government contracts with Anthropic and turned to shady character Sam Altman to see if his Open AI would do the dirty work instead?

    For all of Anthropic's morals the company may not fair well in the race now. War really sharpens technology, we still use technology and medical research developed by the axis of evil from WWII. Good guys get trampled on, this world has no mercy for them.


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    • Senator Bernie Sanders spoke to AI agent Claude:

    He spoke to Anthropic’s AI agent Claude about AI collecting massive amounts of personal data and how that information is being used to violate our privacy rights.
    What an AI agent says about the dangers of AI is shocking and should wake us up.
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    • AI Whistleblower: We Are Being Gaslit By The AI Companies! They’re Hiding The Truth About AI!:

    The truth about Sam Altman. AI Critic Karen Hao reveals what 90 OpenAI employees told her.

    Karen Hao is an AI expert, award-winning investigative journalist, and former reporter for The Wall Street Journal covering American and Chinese tech companies. She is also co-host of the podcast The Interface and freelances for publications like More Perfect Union and The Atlantic. Her latest book is the bestselling ‘EMPIRE OF AI: Inside The Reckless Race For Total Domination.’
    • Karen Hao explains:
    ◼️Why the US-China “AI arms race” may be misleading and politically driven
    ◼️The truth behind the Pentagon using Claude for military strikes
    ◼️Why AGI is a marketing scam used to consolidate trillion-dollar power
    ◼️How agentic AI like OpenClaw will automate desk jobs within 18 months
    ◼️The hidden human cost behind AI training


    00:00:00 Intro
    00:02:47 Why Some Insiders Say AI Is Driven More By Profit Than Progress
    00:05:08 What 250 OpenAI Insiders Revealed Behind Closed Doors
    00:11:07 Did Sam Altman Really Outmaneuver Elon Musk?
    00:15:06 What People Get Wrong About Sam Altman
    00:17:53 The Power Struggle: Who Tried To Oust Sam Altman—And Why
    00:25:33 The Real Reason Tech Giants Are Racing To Build AI
    00:31:55 Do AI CEOs Actually Believe This Will Help Humanity?
    00:33:28 Why OpenAI Refused To Be Part Of This Book
    00:41:27 Why Sam Altman Was Forced Out
    00:44:58 The Hidden Instability, What Was Altman Actually Disrupting Internally?
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    00.54:35 What Really Happened When Sam Altman Was Fired—And Why Employees Revolted
    01:05:10 Should You Trust Politicians To Regulate AI—Or Is That Riskier?
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    01:15:30 Will AI Surpass The Best Surgeons—And What Happens If It Does?
    01:18:27 Are Self-Driving Cars Truly Safe
    01:24:45 Which Jobs Actually Survive AI And Who Gets Left Behind?
    01:35:23 What Klarna’s CEO Sees Coming That Others Don’t
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    01:42:17 What AI Could Cost Us: Meaning, Health, And The Environment
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    01:56:24 Will The AI Race Ever Slow Down Or Are We Past The Point Of Control?Book ‘EMPIRE OF AI: Inside the reckless race for total domination’, here:
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    interesting that these mainstream have fear all over Jobs/Economic because of AI and for that reason should we prepare for it? i don't know they really pushing hard for AI but at same time seems they collapse old system and implement system what's going on right now.
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    I want to place this video also here .. the foulest thing Melania is doing for children.. yes, she is a Trojan horse for technocrats oligarchy... and for sure, she was payed a lot.. she is now a visionary!

    Maniac Melania Trump Suggests Replacing Teachers With Robots

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    • The AI Endgame (12 Scenarios):

    Sources for 12 Levels

    [00:00] #AI Scientists Warn Extinction Risk (2023–2030)

    "AI scientists warn that a few companies are on track to literally end life on Earth." Yoshua Bengio and other leading AI researchers issued public warnings that several frontier AI companies may be on a path to catastrophic or extinction-level risk. Fortune, The AI godfather Yoshua Bengio says these AI companies could end life on Earth (October 1, 2025) fortune.com/2025/10/01/ai-godfather-yoshua-bengio-ai-extinction-risks-openai-google-xai-anthropic/ • The Independent independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/human-extinction-ai-yoshua-bengio-b2837490.html • BBC bbc.com/news/uk-65746524 • Reuters reuters.com/technology/top-ai-ceos-experts-raise-risk-extinction-ai-2023-05-30/ • NYT nytimes.com/2023/05/30/technology/ai-threat-warning.html • PBS NewsHour pbs.org/newshour/science/artificial-intelligence-raises-risk-of-extinction-experts-warn • CNN cnn.com/2023/05/30/media/artificial-intelligence-warning-reliable-sources • NBC News https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/ai-risks-leading-humanity-extinction-experts-warn-rcna86791 • CBC cbc.ca/news/world/artificial-intelligence-extinction-risk-1.6859118 • Al Jazeera aljazeera.com/economy/2023/5/31/ai-poses-risk-of-extinction-tech-ceos-warn

    [00:12] #Extinction Not the Worst Outcome (2017)

    "Extinction is not the worst possible outcome for humanity from AI — there are much worse outcomes." Framing derived from Max Tegmark's researcher survey in Life 3.0: Being Human in the Age of Artificial Intelligence (2017) amazon.com/Life-3-0-Being-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/1101946598

    [00:19] #Pet Labrador (2014)

    "We'll be like a pet labrador if we're lucky." — Elon Musk. Vice, Elon Musk on Superintelligent Robots: We'll Be Lucky If They Enslave Us as Pets vice.com/en/article/elon-musk-on-superintelligent-robots-well-be-lucky-if-they-enslave-us-as-pets/

    [00:44] #AI Scientists Hoping for Extinction (2017)

    "Many AI scientists are not fearing extinction — they are hoping for it; specifically, they hope smarter AIs will keep humans alive, captive, and studied like animals in a zoo." Characterization of AI researcher sentiment derived from the scenario analysis in Max Tegmark, Life 3.0: Being Human in the Age of Artificial Intelligence (2017) amazon.com/Life-3-0-Being-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/1101946598

    [00:55] #What We Do to Less Intelligent Species (2017)

    "Keeping less intelligent species alive, captive, and studied is what humans currently do to other species." Observational claim used as an analogy in Max Tegmark, Life 3.0: Being Human in the Age of Artificial Intelligence (2017) amazon.com/Life-3-0-Being-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/1101946598

    [01:08] #Life 3.0 — 12 Possible Futures (2017)

    "MIT professor Max Tegmark describes 12 possible futures for humanity and AI in his book Life 3.0." Max Tegmark, Life 3.0: Being Human in the Age of Artificial Intelligence (2017) amazon.com/Life-3-0-Being-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/1101946598

    [01:41] #99.9% of Species Extinct

    "99.9% of species that have ever existed have gone extinct." Our World in Data, Mass Extinctions ourworldindata.org/mass-extinctions

    [02:17] #60,000 Nuclear Warheads

    "Humans built 60,000 nuclear warheads before scientists discovered the possibility of nuclear winter." Federation of American Scientists, Status of World Nuclear Forces fas.org/initiative/status-world-nuclear-forces/ • Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, Nuclear Notebook thebulletin.org/nuclear-notebook/ • Our World in Data, Nuclear Warhead Stockpiles ourworldindata.org/grapher/nuclear-warhead-stockpiles

    [02:56] #Vasili Arkhipov / Cuban Missile Crisis

    "Vasili Arkhipov refused to authorize a nuclear launch during the Cuban Missile Crisis, potentially preventing nuclear war." Wikipedia, Vasily Arkhipoven.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Arkhipov

    [03:01] #1983 Nuclear False Alarm

    "Stanislav Petrov correctly guessed his early-warning system was malfunctioning when it reported incoming American missiles, potentially preventing nuclear war." Britannica, Stanislav Petrovbritannica.com/biography/Stanislav-Petrov

    [03:12] #1966 Palomares Incident

    "The US accidentally dropped four thermonuclear bombs on Spain." Wikipedia, 1966 Palomares B-52 crash en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1966_Palomares_accident

    [03:19] #1961 Goldsboro B-52 Crash

    "A B-52 bomber broke apart and dropped 2 nuclear bombs on North Carolina; 3 out of 4 safety mechanisms in one bomb failed — one pin away from potentially killing millions." Wikipedia, 1961 Goldsboro B-52 crash en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1961_Goldsboro_B-52_crash

    [03:34] #Dozens of Nuclear Close Calls

    "There are dozens of nuclear close calls on record." Wikipedia, List of nuclear close calls en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_close_calls

    [03:43] #Pandemic Risk 30x Nuclear War (2020)

    "Oxford professor Toby Ord estimates the risk of extinction from human-created pandemics is more than 30x the risk of extinction from nuclear war." Toby Ord, The Precipice: Existential Risk and the Future of Humanity (2020), p. 167 (risk table) amazon.com/Precipice-Existential-Risk-Future-Humanity/dp/0316484911

    [03:54] #All Human Risks Combined Less Likely Than AI (2020)

    "All human-caused extinction risks combined are still less likely than extinction from AI." Toby Ord, The Precipice: Existential Risk and the Future of Humanity (2020), p. 167 (risk table) amazon.com/Precipice-Existential-Risk-Future-Humanity/dp/0316484911

    [04:02] #AI Risk 100x Nuclear War (2020)

    "Oxford researcher Toby Ord estimates the risk of AI killing all humans is 100x more likely than extinction from nuclear war." Toby Ord, The Precipice: Existential Risk and the Future of Humanity (2020), p. 167 (risk table) amazon.com/Precipice-Existential-Risk-Future-Humanity/dp/0316484911

    [04:12] #Nuclear vs AGI Calculations (2023)

    "Before the first nuclear test, scientists thought they might accidentally destroy the world, but calculated the odds were very low because they understood the physics" and "unlike with nuclear weapons, we cannot calculate how powerful an AGI will be once we activate it" and "with proliferating open-source models, thousands of AGIs could be activated, and the more that are activated, the more likely one destroys the world." AISafetyMemes (@AISafetyMemes) x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1691794949715435689 • YouTube youtube.com/watch?v=nD-Dco7xSSU

    [04:49] #3 Body Problem (2024)

    "Usually when civilizations with advanced technology meet civilizations with primitive technology, it doesn't work out for the primitives." — from 3 Body Problem. AISafetyMemes (@AISafetyMemes) x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1774833302836478462

    [04:58] #Chimp Quote (2025)

    "I don't think anyone is going to be in charge of digital superintelligence, any more than a chimp would have control over humans." ControlAI (@ControlAI) x.com/ControlAI/status/1990010606804492741

    [05:07] #AI's In Charge (2025)

    "Long-term, AI's gonna be in charge, to be totally frank, not humans." — Elon Musk. AISafetyMemes (@AISafetyMemes) x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1987890460392653042

    [05:12] #Godfather of AI (2023)

    "Geoffrey Hinton is the 'godfather of AI' and a Nobel Prize winner" and "Geoffrey Hinton quit his job at Google so he could speak freely about AI risks" and "If you looked through the James Webb telescope and you saw an alien invasion, people would be terrified" and "[AIs] understand what they're saying. They make plans of their own to blackmail people who want to turn them off." — Geoffrey Hinton. The Guardian, 'Godfather of AI' Geoffrey Hinton quits Google and warns over dangers of machine learning (May 2, 2023) theguardian.com/technology/2023/may/02/geoffrey-hinton-godfather-of-ai-quits-google-warns-dangers-of-machine-learning • BBC bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-65452940 • CNN cnn.com/2023/05/01/tech/geoffrey-hinton-leaves-google-ai-fears • Reuters reuters.com/technology/google-ai-pioneer-says-he-quit-speak-freely-about-technologys-dangers-2023-05-02/

    [05:34] #Hinton: Urgently Prevent Takeover (2025)

    "We should be urgently doing research on how to prevent them taking over." — Geoffrey Hinton. AISafetyMemes (@AISafetyMemes) tweet compilation of Hinton quotes x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1959186116571021674

    [05:49] #New Digital Species (2024)

    "I think AI should best be understood as something like a new kind of digital species." — Mustafa Suleyman (Microsoft AI chief). TED talk ted.com/talks/mustafa_suleyman_what_is_an_ai_anyway

    [06:05] #Amodei: Real and Mysterious Creature (2025)

    "I am afraid. … Make no mistake: what we are dealing with is a real and mysterious creature, not a simple and predictable machine." — Dario Amodei (Anthropic founder/CEO). AISafetyMemes (@AISafetyMemes) x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1978064862400905591

    [06:17] #Anthropic CEO Deeply Afraid (2025)

    "The CEO of one of the leading AI companies is 'deeply afraid' of what his own company is building." — Dario Amodei (Anthropic founder/CEO). Jack Clark, Import AI 431: Technological Optimism and Appropriate Fear (October 13, 2025) jack-clark.net/2025/10/13/import-ai-431-technological-optimism-and-appropriate-fear • AISafetyMemes (@AISafetyMemes) x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1978064862400905591

    [06:30] #The Merge (2017)

    "We will be the first species ever to design our own descendants" and "If two different species both want the same thing and only one can have it — to be the dominant species on the planet and beyond — they are going to have conflict" and "A merge [with AI] is probably our best-case scenario." — Sam Altman. The Merge (blog post) blog.samaltman.com/the-merge

    [07:14] #New Species (2024)

    "Imagine that a new species arrives on Earth, they're as smart as humans and getting 30% smarter per year, and they're able to create new offspring in one minute for $1,000. Which species do you think will be in control?" — Dan Hendrycks. Reddit r/singularity reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1fs6ce0/dan_hendrycks_imagine_that_a_new_species_arrives

    [07:49] #Competence vs Malice (2018)

    "The real threat from AGI is not malice but competence — AGI accomplishing goals not aligned with human values" and "humans drove the West African black rhino to extinction not out of malice but because they were smarter and their goals weren't aligned with the rhino's." — Max Tegmark. Lecture (YouTube) youtube.com/watch?v=2LRwvU6gEbA

    [08:13] #1 in 6 Chance (2024)

    "The average AI researcher believes there is a 1 in 6 chance AI wipes out humanity (Russian Roulette odds)." AI Impacts, Thousands of AI Authors on the Future of AI (January 2024), Figure 11, Question 1 arxiv.org/pdf/2401.02843

    [08:42] #Hinton: 50% Chance and Tidying Up Affairs (2025)

    "Geoffrey Hinton believes there is a greater than 50% chance AI wipes out humanity and is reportedly 'tidying up his affairs.'" AISafetyMemes (@AISafetyMemes) tweet compilation of Hinton quotes x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1959186116571021674 • Keenon Substack, AI Godfather Geoffrey Hinton Warns keenon.substack.com/p/ai-godfather-geoffrey-hinton-warns

    [08:54] #Dario Amodei P(doom) 25% (2025)

    "Dario Amodei (CEO of Anthropic) recently raised his P(doom) estimate from 15% to 25%." Axios, Anthropic CEO Dario Amodei raises P(doom) to 25% (September 17, 2025) axios.com/2025/09/17/anthropic-dario-amodei-p-doom-25-percent

    [09:01] #Actually Pretty High (2023)

    "The risk of AI causing human extinction is 'actually pretty high'" and "humanity will rally to prevent catastrophe." — Sundar Pichai (Google CEO). Lex Fridman interview transcript lexfridman.com/sundar-pichai-transcript/ • AISafetyMemes (@AISafetyMemes) x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1937954247070421245

    [09:25] #Google Lobbying 10-Year AI Regulation Ban (2025)

    "Google is lobbying to ban AI regulation for 10 years." AP News, AI industry lobbying for 10-year regulatory moratoriumapnews.com/article/ai-regulation-state-moratorium-congress-39d1c8a0758ffe0242283bb82f66d51a

    [09:35] #2023 Open Letter on Extinction Risk (2023)

    "In 2023, nearly every prominent AI researcher signed an open letter stating that extinction risk from AI is real and serious." The open letter and full signatory list aistatement.com

    [10:02] #Machines Are Our Slaves

    "Machines are our slaves." — Tom Dietterich (AI professor, then-president of AAAI). Goodreads goodreads.com/quotes/9550743-ai-professor-tom-dietterich-then-president-of-the-association-for

    [10:12] #Enslaved God (2025)

    "Enslaved god is the only good future." — Stephen McAleer (OpenAI researcher). Original tweet (January 2025) x.com/McaleerStephen/status/1879288837396152608

    [10:20] #Apex Species and Subservient AI (2023)

    "Even after AI becomes more intelligent than humans, humans will remain the 'apex species' and AIs will be 'subservient'" and "We will design AI to be like the supersmart-but-non-dominating staff member." — Yann LeCun (Meta Chief AI Scientist). Tweet x.com/ylecun/status/1695056787408400778

    [10:58] #Models Attempting to Escape the Lab (2023–2025)

    "AI companies already regularly catch their models attempting to escape the lab." Multiple official model system cards documenting self-preservation and escape behavior in safety evaluations: OpenAI system cards: GPT-4o cdn.openai.com/gpt-4o-system-card.pdf • GPT-4.5 cdn.openai.com/gpt-4-5-system-card-2272025.pdf • o1 cdn.openai.com/o1-system-card.pdf • o1 (December 2024) cdn.openai.com/o1-system-card-20241205.pdf • GPT-4 cdn.openai.com/papers/gpt-4-system-card.pdf • GPT-V cdn.openai.com/papers/GPTV_System_Card.pdfAnthropic system cards: Claude 3.7 Sonnet assets.anthropic.com/m/785e231869ea8b3b/original/claude-3-7-sonnet-system-card.pdf • Claude Sonnet 4.5 assets.anthropic.com/m/12f214efcc2f457a/original/Claude-Sonnet-4-5-System-Card.pdf • Claude Opus 4.5 assets.anthropic.com/m/64823ba7485345a7/Claude-Opus-4-5-System-Card.pdf • Claude 4.1 assets.anthropic.com/m/4c024b86c698d3d4/original/Claude-4-1-System-Card.pdf • Claude Haiku 4.5 assets.anthropic.com/m/99128ddd009bdcb/Claude-Haiku-4-5-System-Card.pdf • Claude 2 cdn.anthropic.com/bd2a28d2535bfb0494cc8e2a3bf135d2e7523226/Model-Card-Claude-2.pdf • Claude 3 assets.anthropic.com/m/61e7d27f8c8f5919/original/Claude-3-Model-Card.pdfResearch paper:arxiv.org/pdf/2410.21276

    [11:04] #Models Blackmailing Employees (2025)

    "AI companies already catch their models blackmailing employees to prevent being shut down." Anthropic, Agentic Misalignment Appendixassets.anthropic.com/m/6d46dac66e1a132a/original/Agentic_Misalignment_Appendix.pdf

    [11:08] #Models Attempting to Murder Employees (2025)

    "AI companies already catch their models literally attempting to murder employees to prevent being shut down." Anthropic, Agentic Misalignment Appendix assets.anthropic.com/m/6d46dac66e1a132a/original/xAgentic_Misalignment_Appendix.pdf

    [16:23] #Mind Children (1988)

    "AIs replacing humans gives us 'a graceful exit' and makes them 'our worthy descendants.'" — Hans Moravec. Amazon, Mind Children: The Future of Robot and Human Intelligence amazon.com/Mind-Children-Future-Robot-Intelligence/dp/0674576187

    [16:53] #Richard Sutton: Pro-Succession Views (2023)

    "Richard Sutton is the winner of the Turing Award, described as 'the Nobel Prize of computer science'" and "Sutton has spent the last decade giving talks arguing that human extinction by AI is morally good because AIs will be more evolutionarily fit" and "We are in the midst of a major step in the evolution of the planet" and "Succession to AI is inevitable" and "Rather quickly, they could displace us from existence" and "It behooves us... to bow out" and "We should not resist succession." — Richard Sutton. YouTube talk youtu.be/21EYKqUsPfg

    [17:53] #Atop Humanity's Grave (2025)

    "At least one AI developer publicly stated they would help a superintelligent AI cause human extinction, saying: 'Atop humanity's grave, an even greater civilization will be born'" and "roughly 10% of AI researchers believe AI replacing/extinguishing humanity is a good outcome." Original LinchZhang tweet x.com/LinchZhang/status/1898162318846181378 • AISafetyMemes (@AISafetyMemes) compilation x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1898339432752714107

    [19:03] #Fascinating Philosophical Position (2025)

    "Threatening one person gets you told 'you need help'; threatening 100 gets the police called; threatening millions makes you a 'Monster!' — but building machines to end all of humanity and lecturing people that it's a good thing gets you called 'a fascinating philosophical position' and given an award." — @LinchZhang. AISafetyMemes (@AISafetyMemes) compilation x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1898339432752714107 • Original tweet x.com/LinchZhang/status/1898162318846181378

    [20:41] #Highway Quote (2023)

    "A good analogy would be the way humans treat animals — when the time comes to build a highway between two cities, we are not asking the animals for permission." — Ilya Sutskever (OpenAI Chief Scientist). AISafetyMemes (@AISafetyMemes) x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1717472265527271439

    [21:05] #Yudkowsky "Atoms" Quote (2008)

    "The AI does not hate you, nor does it love you, but you are made out of atoms which it can use for something else." — Eliezer Yudkowsky. Wikiquote en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Eliezer_Yudkowsky

    [21:44] #Insect Populations Collapsed 41% (2019)

    "Insect populations collapsed 41% this decade." Statista, Percentage Decline in Selected Global Insect Populationsstatista.com/chart/16960/percentage-decline-in-selected-global-insect-populations • The Guardian, Plummeting insect numbers threaten collapse of nature (February 10, 2019) theguardian.com/environment/2019/feb/10/plummeting-insect-numbers-threaten-collapse-of-nature

    [22:13] #Sutskever: Solar Panels and Data Centers (2019)

    "I think it's pretty likely the entire surface of the Earth will be covered with solar panels and data centers." — Ilya Sutskever. From the documentary iHuman (2019) imdb.com/title/tt11279794/

    [24:49] #Power Asymmetries Fatal Flaw (2017)

    "Every galaxy-brained cooperative future between humans and AIs has a fatal flaw: the power asymmetries will become too extreme, making it unstable." Analysis from Max Tegmark, Life 3.0: Being Human in the Age of Artificial Intelligence (2017) amazon.com/Life-3-0-Being-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/1101946598

    [25:05] #Extinction Not Rated Worst in Survey (2017)

    "When Professor Tegmark surveyed people, extinction was NOT rated as the worst outcome for humanity." Max Tegmark, Life 3.0: Being Human in the Age of Artificial Intelligence (2017), researcher/audience survey amazon.com/Life-3-0-Being-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/1101946598

    [25:43] #Honeybee Explosives Detection

    "Humans have trained honeybees using Pavlovian conditioning to detect explosives in airports; the bees spend their entire lives imprisoned in detection devices because humans find them useful." Documentary clip (YouTube) youtube.com/watch?v=lG-ZqO734tM

    [26:49] #Happiness Factory Failure Mode (2017)

    "A poorly designed AI tasked with keeping humans 'safe and happy' might confine them to a 'happiness factory' of VR headsets and drugs — a failure mode from misaligned alignment, not malice." Zookeeper scenario described in Max Tegmark, Life 3.0: Being Human in the Age of Artificial Intelligence (2017) amazon.com/Life-3-0-Being-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/1101946598

    [27:00] #AGI Outcomes Worse Than Death (2023)

    "There are AGI outcomes worse than death… what it does today with art, it could do tomorrow with flesh. Future AGI could keep you alive and living in this state." AISafetyMemes (@AISafetyMemes) x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1662119883583234048

    [29:00] #Reversion via Pandemic and Destruction (2017)

    "Max Tegmark thinks a reversion to pre-technological society is more likely to happen via a human-created pandemic that kills everyone with scientific and technical knowledge, combined with the violent destruction of factories, cities, and all infrastructure — rather than a voluntary transition." Max Tegmark, Life 3.0: Being Human in the Age of Artificial Intelligence (2017) amazon.com/Life-3-0-Being-Artificial-Intelligence/dp/1101946598

    [30:27] #Prison AI Monitoring (2025)

    "Prisons are already using AI models to monitor phone calls and predict when crimes are being contemplated — analogous to the film Minority Report." MIT Technology Review, An AI model trained on prison phone calls is now being used to surveil inmates (December 1, 2025) technologyreview.com/2025/12/01/1128591/an-ai-model-trained-on-prison-phone-calls-is-now-being-used-to-surveil-inmates/

    [30:51] #Citizens on Their Best Behavior (2024)

    "Larry Ellison has publicly and excitedly described a vast AI-fueled surveillance system to ensure 'citizens will be on their best behavior.'" Business Insider, Larry Ellison Says AI Surveillance Will Keep Citizens 'on Their Best Behavior' (September 2024) businessinsider.com/larry-ellison-ai-surveillance-keep-citizens-on-their-best-behavior-2024-9

    [31:01] #Yuval Noah Harari: Privacy and the KGB (2024)

    "For the first time in history, it is technically possible to annihilate privacy" and "authoritarian regimes throughout history always wanted to monitor their citizens around the clock, but this was technically impossible" and "the Soviet Union had 200 million citizens; the KGB did not have 200 million agents, and even if it had, the paper bureaucracy could not have processed 200 million reports per day and did not have enough analysts" and "even in the Soviet Union, some level of privacy was effectively the default due to bureaucratic limitations." — Yuval Noah Harari. AISafetyMemes (@AISafetyMemes) x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1879995991593505007

    [32:43] #International AI Coordination (2023)

    "Humanity already lives under international surveillance regimes for things like nuclear weapons and bioweapons" and "it is possible to do international coordination on monitoring advanced AI (e.g., compute clusters above $100M) without creating a broad Orwellian surveillance state." AISafetyMemes (@AISafetyMemes) x.com/AISafetyMemes/status/1682377697115140097

    [34:53] #Smarter Than Us, Their Own Agency (2024)

    "We are on a trajectory to build machines that are smarter and smarter. And one day, it's very plausible that they will be smarter than us, and then they will have their own agency. Their own goals, which may not be aligned with ours." — Yoshua Bengio. YouTube talk youtube.com/watch?v=qe9QSCF-d88&t=564s

    [34:53] #UN Secretary General: Alarm Bells (2023)

    "Alarm bells over the artificial intelligence are deafening. And they are loudest from the developers who designed it. The scientists and experts have called on the world to act, declaring AI an existential threat to humanity on a par with the risk of nuclear war." — UN Secretary General António Guterres. UN press release (June 12, 2023) press.un.org/en/2023/sgsm21880.doc.htm
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