Charlie Kirk assassinated, 10 Sept 2025

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Posted by rgray222 (here)
I know this will be a very unpopular and controversial post, but I honestly believe that Candace Owens has (take your pick):

1. Lost her mind
2. Been bought off
3. Has early-onset dementia
4. Is full of hate and revenge
5. Some form of severe Cognitive dissonance
6. Has unmanageable stress and severe sleep deprivation
7. Is suffering from acute paranoia and possible schizophrenia
8. All the above

This is being said by one of her early ardent fans. You might ask what proof do you have? The answer is to watch any one of her videos from 1 month after Charlie Kirk was murdered.

I watched all her videos since then,i have no idea how you can come to such bizar conclusions. can you please illustrate with examples how that could be true? I really wonder if you yourself watched enough of her videos to see what she actually has exposed, and where you can experience that her honesty ,intelligence & humor are all in total contrast with your conclusions.Thanx

[Bill Ryan]

A report from Judge Napolitano with Larry Johnson which streamed live 3 hours ago. It's short, but kind of sums up the entire thing. The section relevant to this thread starts at 7:15.

(Including this observation, towards the end at 20:05)

The work that Candace Owens has done on this has been remarkable. And she's come under a lot of attack simply for asking some basic questions, and the answers that keep coming back from people directly involved with Turning Point USA are not satisfactory.

[SPECIAL] - The Bullet Doesn't Match : Who killed Charlie Kirk? w/ Larry Johnson

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=UzPZqVB1Pnw

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Trump DARES Erika Kirk to Sue Candace Owens.. Candace Owens Continues to Go Nuclear on TPUSA--

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zIncC9tIxrI

--32 min´´5/4/26-- ´Podcast host Jimmy Dore joins the corner to discuss the Candace Owens and Erika Kirk drama..Trump just recently gave major props to Erika Kirk publicly, or did he expose her? Jimmy Dore goes into his thoughts on Erika Kirk, Benjamin Netanyahu and Iran,. This is "no holds barred" with the gloves completely off! Enjoy!´

[Rizotto]

Here's why zionists get so triggered about Candace Owens...

"Candace Owens and Tucker Carlson explore the Jeffrey Epstein case — who he was working for, what’s still being hidden, and why powerful elites are reacting so strongly to those asking questions."

Candace Owens x Tucker Carlson: Epstein, Israel & Truth

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=dMb9HyzLxpU

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another batch of lies exposed..

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oiQyIZs3hDM

--21 min--
5 Apr 2026
´There has been a growing scandal over reports that Erika Kirk went shopping at Alo for a yoga outfit the day after Charlie Kirk’s murder. Candace Owens said she does not think the Alo purchase is important. I think this is extremely important, because it establishes a timeline for what happened in the 24 hours after Charlie Kirk was murdered´´

[Rizotto]

(Just my hunch, but could Charlie's pendant have been an electronical homing device for a specialized electronically guided bullet?)

"In this video, we take a fresh look at one of the strangest details in the Charlie Kirk case: the necklace. Could the broken chain, pendant movement, and neck wound be connected in a way people have overlooked? We go through prior ballistic-style testing, chain break comparisons, cavitation arguments, slow-motion observations, and the renewed attention this theory is getting.
This is not presented as a final conclusion. It is a careful review of the evidence, visuals, and theory discussions that continue to raise questions. From the chain apparently breaking in the middle, to how violently it moves in the footage, to whether a pendant or cross could have contributed to the injury, this video walks through the possibilities step by step.
We also cover the bigger debate: if the necklace mattered, was it just caught in the event… or was it part of it? That includes prior theory discussions about the pendant, chain length, force required, and whether some explanations are plausible, possible, or highly unlikely.
Watch all the way through and tell me what you think: coincidence, cavitation, pendant strike, or something else entirely?"

The Charlie Kirk Necklace Theory Just Got Bigger

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=yQDPMfkA88k

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´Lindsey Graham Linked to Israeli Intelligence Before Charlie Kirk and War with Iran´

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Q2LHThkBORY

--61 min--8/4/26--
Streamed live 6 hours ago
President Trump agreed to a two week cease fire with Iran which Israel and the Zionist lobby is NOT HAPPY about. Details have leaked about how President Trump was influenced into this position to the New York Times, and this influence has a lot to do with US Senator Lindsey Graham, whose visits to Israel are problematic, IN MY OPINION. Let's get into it...

[Rizotto]

Charlie Kirk – April 3, 2025:

It’s going unnoticed because so much other news is happening, but the war drums are beating again in D.C. The warmongers worry this is their last chance to get the white whale they’ve been chasing for thirty years, an all-out regime change war against Iran.

A new Middle East war would be a catastrophic mistake. Our military stockpiles are depleted from three years of backing Ukraine. Our effort to reshore manufacturing has only just begun and will take years to bear fruit. War would worsen our already immense deficit and national debt. Iran is larger than Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan combined. A war would not be easy and could easily become a calamity.

Thanks to President Trump’s restraint during his first term, America has a golden opportunity to pull away from Middle East quagmires for good. We shouldn’t throw that opportunity away so that sone D.C. has-beens can feel tough by sending young Americans to die yet again.

https://x.com/charliekirk11/status/1907840667595976733

[Rizotto]

"In this episode of 51/49, James investigates the collapsing official timeline of the Tyler Robinson case, digging into how court-filed arrest records, "mysteriously deleted" police footage, and a suspicious trail of "fed slop" Discord messages reveal a disturbing pattern of narrative manipulation by Kash Patel and the FBI."

The Tyler Robinson Narrative is Officially COLLAPSING

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GAzr7FsKYaE

[bojancan]

Apr, 10

An Open Letter To President Donald Trump (My Response) | Candace Ep 322

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZIH5-V6UPkg

My response to Trump's latest unhinged rant on Truth Social name dropping me.

[Tintin]

This is one heck of a comprehensive looking website which is dedicated to forensics. There's a LOT to take in here and I haven't got time at the moment.

I would say, on spec, that this really should be referred to; it's fast looking like the microphone was rigged and was the weapon.

Their overview:

https://followtheepicenter.com/

The evidence tells a different story
On September 10, 2025, during a public event at Utah Valley University, a young man's life was forever altered. Tyler Robinson now faces the death penalty. But a meticulous frame-by-frame forensic analysis of multiple eyewitness video recordings reveals physical evidence that demands closer examination.

This independent investigation applies computational pixel flow analysis, dense optical flow mapping, multi-angle stereo acoustic analysis, audio-visual source distance computation, gas release imaging, and physical evidence examination to reconstruct what the video evidence actually shows.

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The site also contains raw files for independent analysis.

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=eLgD5yUVbko

--13/4/26--´Donald Trump posts an ai photo of himself as Jesus on Truth social after railing against Pope Leo, TPUSA donors contact me and claim the Charlie recording from Aspen is fake, and a shocking discovery is made in the Tyler Robinson filing which confirms our very early reporting.´

[Tintin]

Okay, this is fascinating, and starts to shine a very focused light on Erika.

Source: https://x.com/ProjectConstitu/status...91823915299155
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🚨EXPOSED: Lori Frantzve Appears In Edward Snowden LEAKED Prism Docs As "NSA Agent"—Erika Kirk's Mom CONFIRMED As Intelligence Asset.😱

I just discovery Lori Frantzve’s name in the leaked documents released by Edward Snowden. This document explicitly lists her under a section titled "DOX," identifying her among a group of alleged NSA agents whose personal data was exposed.

For those of us tracking the "New TPUSA" narrative, this isn't just a coincidence—it’s a confirmation of the Intelligence Asset theory.

🚩 The "Legacy" of Lori Frantzve
Lori’s inclusion in a list of NSA personnel alongside former directors like Lt Gen Kenneth Minihan adds massive weight to the claim that she has spent her career embedded in the deep-state apparatus. If Lori is a confirmed intelligence asset, her daughter's entire life story suddenly looks like a meticulously managed operation.

🎭 The Targeted Infiltration of Charlie Kirk
The pieces are fitting together perfectly. We’ve always suspected that Erika’s "chance" meeting with Charlie in an airport was too convenient to be real. Based on this new link to the NSA, the investigation suggests a much darker timeline:

The Grooming: Erika didn't just stumble into the movement; she was likely directed by Lori, using her mother's defense and intelligence connections to "target" Charlie Kirk.

Remember Erika changed her entire image—pretending to be exactly the kind of traditional Christian woman she knew Charlie’s faith and values would attract—just to lure him in.

If Erika is being directed by an NSA-linked mother, then the "widow" we see today isn't a leader; she’s an operator holding the line for her mother’s interests.

🏛️ Why This Changes Everything
This link to the NSA PRISM database and Snowden documents proves that the Lori's Tech background was just a cover for something much deeper. When a former CIA analyst says Erika Kirk's behavior is "not ****ing normal," and then we find her mother in a leaked NSA dox, the "coincidence" officially dies.

They are running a script, and the script was written by people with badges and high-level security clearances.

Is Erika a grieving widow, or is she the second generation of an intelligence dynasty? The "DOX" doesn't lie.

I'll link the full set of leaked NSA docs in the comments below so you can check them out for yourself. Share this everywhere, The evidence is piling up. 👇

Link: https://archive.org/stream/MoreNewSe...ts1-3_djvu.txt

PDF: https://ia600803.us.archive.org/30/i...oxParts1-3.pdf

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BREAKING: The ATF Traced A Gun On 9/10. Erika's "Friend" Wanted To Own Its Company. | Candace Ep 324 - - - - -

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jsqUIkszZd0

- - - - -Streamed live 4 hours ago Candace Owens
´There is yet another problematic pastor connected to Erika Kirk and Turning Point Faith...and today's story is going to throw you for a loop.´

0:00 Start.
1:14 Who is Victor Marx?
36:44 The gun that the ATF traced on September 10th.
50:00 Comments and final thoughts.

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SubDoZWHARo

--15/4/26--Streamed live 4 hours ago Candace Owens
Erika Kirk no shows an event in Georgia, Victor Marx responds to my episode from yesterday, and there is another person at Turning Point who allegedly has a background in trafficking arms.

00:00 - Start.
01:30 - Erika Kirk no-shows JD Vance and TPUSA gives their excuse.
37:09 - Victor Marx responds to me.
42:40 - Another person at TPUSA allegedly involved in trafficking arms.
52:59 - Comments.

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=jozQ1VUJDT0

--12 min--16 Apr 2026 The Jimmy Dore Show PODCAST

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BREAKING: Feds Original Plan Was For Tyler Robinson To Be Killed In A Shootout! w/ Lionel- -

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rU0wU6zyQw4

. 52 min---15/4/26

[bojancan]

Those who are following Candace and listening and watching her... in my opinion, it is good to listen here and there Baron too... from today.. his analyzes of yesterday happening with JDVance and other persons ... excellent opening statement too... good 1.5 hour!

They (Allegedly) Are Lying to Your Face - #98
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hCmc0fKAsM

Was "she" actually in Athens, Georgia, last night? We'll look at the evidence.

And we'll look at why, if she did actually stay home (and we don't believe she did), that it was the right thing to do.

0:00 Intro
10:15 Opening Statement - Gaslighting
23:48 Personal Appeal in Light of "Threats"
27:57 PBD Hosts on Erika and Future at TPUSA
37:43 Threat of Event Cancellation Came "Two Hours" before 5:47pm
43:27 Did the Sponsor Look at Erika Kirk Backstage while Thanking Her?
48:47 Andrew Kolvet is Dressed Like Doo Doo to Interview the Veep
56:33 Is Druski Why Erika Didn't Show?
1:09:00 Victor Marx is a Licensed Firearm Dealer
1:26:06 Review of Supers
2:08:43 Review of ATF Report
2:20:32 Continue Review of Supers

[jaybee]

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I have a couple of potentially controversial remarks to make - they are made as an observer taking a step back from the emotional overload we are burdened with night and day - - - (via the Internet and MSM) - I don't necessarily believe or disbelieve the observations but like a detective... want to present them as part of the picture to be considered...

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First..... IF, as appears to be the case emerging - Erica Kirk's mother is correctly catalogued as a CIA (?) asset/agent - and so Erica could have (would have) been brought up in a MKultra dominated way....... shouldn't we have compassion for her (Erica) - how can a baby and a child escape the brainwashing of such an upbringing...? so isn't compassion a suitable thing to feel for her...?

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second.... it looks like the combo of Charlie Kirk and Candace Owens was a VERY dynamic political partnership - with massive potential and one that the 'PTB' would NOT have liked, not one little bit - ??? So what to do about it...?

There is much speculation about Erica being a Honeypot - someone tasked with forming a relationship with a 'target' - to influence and control them and keep close tabs on everything they do... and plan to do....

Funnily enough BOTH Charlie and Candace 'coincidently' met and went on to marry and have children with their respective partners after meeting them in the latter part of 2018 - a detective would HAVE to impartially consider whether they were BOTH 'Honeypotted' - - - were they BOTH targeted and put on different paths through romance, marriage and parenthood -

The way Candace met and married her husband was, in reality just as 'suspicious' as the way Erica and Charlie met and got hooked up....

below info came up heading a general search on the subject....

Candace Owens met George Farmer in London in 2018, and they became engaged just 17–18 days later.
Candace Owens and George Farmer first met in 2018 while working within the conservative political sphere. Owens was serving as the communications director for Turning Point USA in the United States, and Farmer was involved with Turning Point UK, the UK branch of the organization. Their initial encounter occurred during a wintry night in London while Owens was coordinating speaking events for Turning Point USA, which allowed them to connect over shared political and ideological interests.
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The couple quickly developed a strong connection, bonding over their conservative views and mutual involvement in political activism. Farmer has described their meeting as a "God thing," emphasizing the rapid and unexpected nature of their relationship. Remarkably, George Farmer proposed to Candace Owens via FaceTime on December 29, 2018, just 17 days after they first met, despite not having gone on a traditional date or discussed marriage plans beforehand. Their engagement and subsequent marriage in 2019 at Trump Winery reflected both their personal and ideological alignment.
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Since then, Owens and Farmer have built a family together, having four children and maintaining a balance between public visibility and private life. Their relationship is often highlighted as a whirlwind romance that was deeply influenced by their shared professional and political environments.

If I had to speculate (impartially ) on the potential Honeypotting of BOTH Charlie and Candace I would think that it was a heady mix of religion and politics that cemented it all..... that a covert Catholic Group of Global Influencers might be working on Candace, in particular - but a more politically orientated covert group worked on Charlie... but the Catholic Thing was also working into Charlie's life - in a less public way...

The last Pope and this present Pope may (we could impartially speculate ) - may be deeply involved with the Globalist's plans to create a One World Religion.....but keeping the Catholic Faith an influential mover and shaker in it all....

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ooookaaaay.... my final controversial remark is about Kurt on the Jimmy Dore Show..... what's all that about? - why does Jimmy have him on all the time - he seems to behave quite oddly, interrupt all the time and distract with his tittering and constant chuckling -

my point being to speculate that any influential political character stands a good chance of having someone tasked to get close to them - to influence them and carefully direct them....

well....that's all for now...... no one panic LOL....

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Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5GDNxn-7nMw

--15/4/26--Streamed live 12 hours ago
Zach Costello, Jon Bray and Blake Bednarz on what killed Charlie Kirk. Was it the wireless Rode Mic? Was it the cross pendant on his necklace? Or was it something else, like a ricochetted bullet?