Tracking ~ Listening devices: historically under surveillance

[Anti Democide]

Long story short and without too much detail:

I live in a Surveillance State called Belfast Ireland [N.Ireland SMH]
Historically speaking its a common thing and has been to have a tracking or listening device discovered in ones home or car intrusively eavesdropping: THIS IS AN ESTABLISHED REALITY HERE: I can provide facts of this:

Based on a number of facts giving rise to suspecting this; how would one know what or how to look for; or what to logically use to fully detect an eavesdropping device in their home?

NO they are not so sophisticated that theyre undetectable: NO theres no mental derangement or drug use; or paranoia; or cheating; or stressed relationships causing this one single issue: It is a real scenario:

YES it may sound strange to those who dont get it nor live in such a region of the World:

But it is good suggestions that may help this situation I am seeking:

Said device appears located in specific spot in the structure of a bathroom acting as a piggy backed standalone or rechargeable device [all power to home was of]

Its assessed to be 6.5Ghz or thereabouts using a non interrupted input/output or constant signal which should not be there:

So much so that it can be interacted with and established as Technological:

Has anyone ever used a working detection device which they know confirms such things; instead of pulling a whole part of a bathroom out first only to discover they cannot ID it by eyeballing it? Thanks All: Off we go:

[Pam]

Posted by Anti Democide (here)
Long story short and without too much detail:

I live in a Surveillance State called Belfast Ireland [N.Ireland SMH]
Historically speaking its a common thing and has been to have a tracking or listening device discovered in ones home or car intrusively eavesdropping: THIS IS AN ESTABLISHED REALITY HERE: I can provide facts of this:

Based on a number of facts giving rise to suspecting this; how would one know what or how to look for; or what to logically use to fully detect an eavesdropping device in their home?

NO they are not so sophisticated that theyre undetectable: NO theres no mental derangement or drug use; or paranoia; or cheating; or stressed relationships causing this one single issue: It is a real scenario:

YES it may sound strange to those who dont get it nor live in such a region of the World:

But it is good suggestions that may help this situation I am seeking:

Said device appears located in specific spot in the structure of a bathroom acting as a piggy backed standalone or rechargeable device [all power to home was of]

Its assessed to be 6.5Ghz or thereabouts using a non interrupted input/output or constant signal which should not be there:

So much so that it can be interacted with and established as Technological:

Has anyone ever used a working detection device which they know confirms such things; instead of pulling a whole part of a bathroom out first only to discover they cannot ID it by eyeballing it? Thanks All: Off we go:

You state that the listening device is built into the structure of the bathroom. Do you believe it was placed in the structure at the time of building? Why would a listening device be placed in the bathroom of all places? If you wanted to pick up conversations wouldn't the kitchen, bedroom or living room be more likely to get actual conversations? Sorry, I can't answer any of your questions.

[Bubu]

[QUOTE=peterpam;1273462][QUOTE=
Why would a listening device be placed in the bathroom of all places? If you wanted to pick up conversations wouldn't the kitchen, bedroom or living room be more likely to get actual conversations? Sorry, I can't answer any of your questions.[/QUOTE]

I guess its because of the fact that people like to sing while taking a bath.

[ripple]

[QUOTE=Bubu;1273469][QUOTE=peterpam;1273462]

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Why would a listening device be placed in the bathroom of all places? If you wanted to pick up conversations wouldn't the kitchen, bedroom or living room be more likely to get actual conversations? Sorry, I can't answer any of your questions.[/QUOTE

I guess its because of the fact that people like to sing while taking a bath.

There is no clear evidence that they use baths other than for distilling which is why they then start singing . It's their individual approach to spirituality .

[Ernie Nemeth]

Can you take a pic and show us? You have me intrigued. I have a lot of construction experienceb I might be able to distinguish what it is...

[Anti Democide]

Its not a `sudden issue` It can only be a technological device:

I`ll leave this hanging out there until someone understands my initial post:

[Ernie Nemeth]

Sorry, I really thought I did understand...
Must have missed the hidden question.
Carry on ❤

[Bubu]

Posted by Anti Democide (here)

NO they are not so sophisticated that theyre undetectable:


Said device appears located in specific spot in the structure of a bathroom acting as a piggy backed standalone or rechargeable device [all power to home was of]

I guess solar panels are meant to be in the open. unless someone has come up with a solar charger that charges in complete darkness. In that case it becomes sophisticated. Sorry but your story seem so fantastical to be believe and unless you give more info I'm afraid its going to hang until the mods knock it to the next page.

[Angels1981]

I'm in the UK. I just moved into a new build where I am getting complaints about residents being dealt within 24 hours. The letters are picking up every thing from a piece of paper being thrown on the floor by someone to singing, playing loud music and arguing. We figure were half of that came from but it's the small pieces of intel evidence such as not being allowed to play music too loud. This building is now pristine quiet and serene. IT feels nice don't get me wrong and serene not an argument, not a conversation BUT
I got an impression that it's too clean cut. So I looked for bugs around the home using my phone and an rf app. I don't know how accurate but I sweeped my home and nothing was found except in the radiators which I keep off there are strong signals to state that it is bugged.

The reason is that on the app I used if you go near metal or if you go near tv etc and I know rad's are metal per say it came up TV or appliance and it did so for each radiator. However, the closer it got to the rad's programmer it flagged up bugged. So I wonder if there is spying going on or else how within 24 hours do they know if you sang your heart out in the bathroom, argued or did something else.
I'm sceptical but I was shocked when it did show it was bugged. I never turn the rads on because we got warmth in the room enough to be adequate but I wonder what you all think.
Could they do that?

[Chester]

This should be here -

Under Surveillance

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=w6gV5EBiq6s

[Tintin]

Posted by Angels1981 (here)
I'm in the UK. I just moved into a new build where I am getting complaints about residents being dealt within 24 hours. The letters are picking up every thing from a piece of paper being thrown on the floor by someone to singing, playing loud music and arguing. We figure were half of that came from but it's the small pieces of intel evidence such as not being allowed to play music too loud. This building is now pristine quiet and serene. IT feels nice don't get me wrong and serene not an argument, not a conversation BUT
I got an impression that it's too clean cut. So I looked for bugs around the home using my phone and an rf app. I don't know how accurate but I sweeped my home and nothing was found except in the radiators which I keep off there are strong signals to state that it is bugged.

The reason is that on the app I used if you go near metal or if you go near tv etc and I know rad's are metal per say it came up TV or appliance and it did so for each radiator. However, the closer it got to the rad's programmer it flagged up bugged. So I wonder if there is spying going on or else how within 24 hours do they know if you sang your heart out in the bathroom, argued or did something else.
I'm sceptical but I was shocked when it did show it was bugged. I never turn the rads on because we got warmth in the room enough to be adequate but I wonder what you all think.
Could they do that?

This may well be directly related to your hunch here; shared by The Whizz AI here on X, and I'll link to the paper as well. The paper is called:

Hiding an Ear in Plain Sight: On the Practicality and Implications of Acoustic Eavesdropping with Telecom Fiber Optic Cables
Published: 27 February 2026, San Diego, CA, USA ISBN 979-8-9919276-8-0 https://dx.doi.org/10.14722/ndss.2026.240546___________________________

Here's their summary:

Source: https://x.com/TheWhizzAI/status/2050515666994958574

🚨BREAKING: The fiber cable sitting in your wall has been secretly listening to you.

And researchers just proved it.

Security researchers from Hong Kong Polytechnic University and the Chinese University of Hong Kong presented a fully working attack at NDSS Symposium 2026 turning ordinary fiber optic internet cables into hidden, undetectable microphones.

No laser bugs. No physical implants. No drilling through walls.
Just the broadband cable already sitting in your living room or office.

How It Actually Works:
Optical fibers are sensitive to tiny vibrations. When sound waves travel through the air, they cause microscopic changes in the shape of the fiber. These changes alter the light signals traveling inside the cable.
By watching these changes with a Distributed Acoustic Sensing system linked to one end of the cable, an attacker can recreate the original sound wave from the other end even over distances greater than 50 meters.
Sound hits fiber. Fiber vibrates. Light shifts. AI reconstructs your conversation.
No microphone. No bug. No trace.
Why This Is Different From Everything Before:
This attack transforms standard FTTH telecom fiber cables into passive, undetectable listening devices invisible to RF scanners and immune to ultrasonic jammers.
Your traditional counter-surveillance gear will not work.

The Device They Built:
The researchers engineered a custom Sensory Receptor a hollow cylinder with 15 meters of optical fiber wound around it.

Critically, this device can be disguised as an ordinary optical fiber box the same type routinely installed in homes and offices during FTTH deployments making it virtually indistinguishable from legitimate networking equipment.

It looks exactly like what your ISP already installed.

Who Is Most At Risk:
→ Corporate offices with FTTH connections
→ Government buildings and embassies
→ Law firms, banks, and financial institutions
→ Anyone having sensitive conversations near a fiber cable

The Takeaway:
Fiber optic cables have long been considered inherently secure. Resistant to RF emissions. Resistant to electromagnetic interference.

That belief is now broken.
The cable delivering your internet can also deliver your conversations to someone else entirely.
Nobody installed a bug in your home.

The infrastructure already was one.

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The research paper link: https://www.ndss-symposium.org/wp-co...f546-paper.pdf

[Tintin]

Related to the research paper cited in this post a supporting video presentation:

NDSS 2026 - Hiding an Ear in Plain Sight:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0yBv4cXiS4w

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The slide set is available here:
https://www.ndss-symposium.org/wp-co...ang-slides.pdf

[Victoria]

Thank you for these posts, Tintin... fascinating to learn about!

I wonder if the original poster ever got an adequate answer or found a solution. Just reading through some of the responses, and I realize it may be unbelievable to some people, but there are many communities where this might be common. Anyone familiar with circumstances in gangs, related to mafia, different government agencies or even living in very controlling residential communities might know...it's a little disheartening to see members' experiences be dismissed so easily.

30+ years ago, it was a given working for various departments that your lines would always be tapped...the customary click, click, click every so often and then depending how long a call was, the person on duty listening might yawn or grumble during your intimate conversations. RSO sweeps of flats for listening devices were common, with intense focus around any electrical sources- whether actively in use and on, or not, and of course scanning of your vehicle for devices occurred multiple times daily... It was common years ago, expected under those circumstances, but one can only imagine how much more prevalent the technology is now and how much it has been micronized or improved over the years as to be that much more easily applied to the common citizen.