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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    Quote Posted by Tintin (here)
    Here's a sensible post from an individual on X who does seem to know what they are talking about - stop panicking folks

    ___________________________
    I'm coming out of private because this hantavirus thing is getting ridiculous. Before I explain the facts of the virus, here's why you should listen to me: Unlike most of the people on my feed, I am a Chemical, Biological, Radiological, and Nuclear defense officer. My job is to ensure that large, closely-packed groups of people are not infected by diseases both endemic to the environment and manufactured by an enemy.

    Andes hantavirus has an extremely low transmissibility rate. You need to be in prolonged, close contact with someone to catch it. Transmission between humans is documented but so rare that it is considered exceptional. This is not COVID (for example, the common cold is a type of coronavirus).

    The 40% mortality rate figure is also a distortion of reality. The disease is treatable and anywhere with an adequate hospital can save you – rates are between 1-15%. This 40% rate is because Andean hantavirus is endemic to a region with very poor access to medical care. If you live in a developed country, you have nothing to worry about. (https://cdc.gov/hantavirus/about/index.html)

    The chances of the virus mutating to become more infectious are low, but not impossible. If it does become more infectious, it will also become less lethal. This is a basic, natural evolutionary tradeoff to ensure the virus's propagation.

    Of seven suspected (two confirmed) cases, three have already died. Based on the case timeline, they likely contracted the disease in Argentina before boarding (they boarded on April 1 and first showed symptoms on April 6 – the virus takes at least one week to show symptoms). That leaves four people who could possibly transmit the virus, all of whom are hospitalized. (https://who.int/emergencies/disease-...em/2026-DON599)

    The flight attendant had minimal if any contact with the infected passenger who was removed and isolated before the plane took off. Her symptoms also onset far too early to be related to this case. She has already tested negative for hantavirus.

    If you have questions I'm happy to answer, but there is genuinely no threat to public health from this outbreak on a cruise ship. Don't fall for people fearmongering a pandemic for engagement money.
    Forgot to mention that there are some cases here in Finland every spring when people are gardening or cleaning up their storages. And yes, if you just simply go to hospital you'll probably be ok. I even know some people who had this and all of them are just fine. Not the same strain of course but the symptoms are the same.

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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    As Celticwarrior's posted Substack mentions, "
    Quote The illness exists, it is a poisoning with rat feces, usually in extremely blighted living conditions, with extremely poor hygiene, dirt floors and massive rat infestation"
    Yes. 

    From a personal experience, we've been thoroughly exposed crawling through and cleaning out rat and mice infested/urine saturated areas during both home raids in the countryside as well as ripping open walls, insulation and basements or attic spaces during fire calls. 

    The people in our departments and area who contracted Hanta were in their 70's or older with comorbidities and other health vulnerabilities. There have only been a handful.

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    We also have been caring for and rescuing/rehabilitating every form of small animal in the southwest for at least the last decade- from reptiles and amphibians to rabbits and kangaroo rats, deer mice, pack rats, weasels, house mice, voles, pocket mice, squirrels, chipmunks and ringtails... 

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    If mice so easily transmitted Hanta in this area where there is high prevalence, we'd have had it 1000 times over. I acknowledge this may have something to do with susceptibility and a person's health status. We appear to have better than average immunity and health.


    Regardless, Hanta is not something that typically spreads directly from animal to person, or person to person unless it has now been successfully weaponized and engineered to do so. 

    You would have to inhale an excessive amount of urine and particulate matter, not just smell strong ammonia from urine, or you would have to consume it on your hands and in your food in order to contract Hanta. Perhaps dried urine or fresh animal spray admitted to the eyes could be a transmission route.   I'm not sure about saliva transmission, but have personally been bitten by deer mice and rats dozens of times since childhood in the southwest and southeast of the US without any effect.  

    Health sources often cite "contact" with deer mice or their droppings. That's simply not true. One would actually have to inhale a significant amount or ingest it directly...and the rodent would have to be a carrier. Not all of them, even deer mice, are carriers.

    The likelihood of conditions allowing for concentrated exposure existing on a tourism ship that must pass safety inspections regularly should be slim to zip.

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    There is a common test for Hanta if requested, but it is- just like during Covid- a PCR test with all the same downfalls and is typically done during the acute phase of the first week at specialized labs. 

    Standard serological tests are supposed to be easier to access, but that depends on your doctor and location. We have asked for tests in the past, when we thought we had certainly been exposed. The ease of testing accessibility was reversed. 
    Last edited by Victoria; 9th May 2026 at 16:52. Reason: adding a photo & changing a couple of words-husband noting that I just gave CPR to a tiny rodent last week- this is unfair hysteria for people and doom for mice and other tiny animals

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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    Short History...

    Well.mice ,rats,etc... are humanity followers since we grow crops...and then in the big city's (plenty of trash)

    Old Egypt honor cats as protectors demigods, because cleaned their crops( Egypt riches ),with many monuments and figurines in their hieroglyphic descriptions/story's... and cat mummies in the thumbs...as protectors too!

    There is NONE record from plague or similar , until middle ages ... where big populations and very little sanitary installations were common...

    Today if the trash in a big city isn't collect in 1 month in Summer... well, then we will get the perfect conditions for many types of emergency's ...

    And people health depends from many different parameters, special old folks...

    The REAL FACT why we are today 8 billions souls on the planet is simple because our immune system learn and update his defense NO MATTER WHAT!

    DARK FORCES know that very well, that is why they keep trying anyway to weaponize EVERYTHING they can... just the ANGST respond from some folk is enough ... (for the moment)

    Be resilient and don't give them what they want...

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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    https://x.com/catturd2/status/2053111365686939850?s=20


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    Liberal woman demands people wear masks due to Hantavirus and the “ongoing” COVID pandemic.

    “Most of you don’t give a s**t about Hantavirus. You don’t give a s**t about the ongoing pandemic.”
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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    A lot of news surfacing and already not so surprisingly there's some vaccine news. I'm sure there are a lot of people here rushing to get the jab

    https://www.dailymail.com/sciencetec...-approved.html

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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    As always, fear is the most viral and most lethal of all viruses.

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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    Hantavirus and Big Pharma. a vaccine "just in case" or a pre-prepared plan? The outbreak of Hantavirus on the cruise ship MV Hondius has once again made the topic of the sinister Big Pharma relevant



    Hantavirus and Big Pharma

    a vaccine "just in case" or a pre-prepared plan?

    The outbreak of Hantavirus on the cruise ship MV Hondius has once again made the topic of the sinister Big Pharma relevant. While passengers are in isolation, and WHO and the Centers for Disease Control are monitoring contacts in 23 countries, the media and social networks are increasingly asking the question: as it turned out, even before the "unexpected" outbreak, large pharmaceutical companies had been working for several years on a vaccine against hantavirus — and specifically against the dangerous Andes strain, which is suspected on board?

    What was Big Pharma really doing?

    Moderna

    In July 2024, the company announced a full-fledged collaboration with the Vaccine Innovation Center at Korea University. The goal is to develop a broad-spectrum mRNA vaccine against various strains of hantavirus. Moderna provided mRNA materials through its mRNA Access program (this is an open platform for researchers from other countries). By September 2024, antigen expression studies and preliminary efficacy tests were already underway.

    At the time of the outbreak, the project was at the preclinical stage — there had not yet been human trials. However, after May 4, 2026 (when WHO published the first statement on Hondius), it was this partnership that suddenly became the main news in the relevant media.

    University of Texas Medical Branch (UTMB)

    In July–August 2024, UTMB scientists published the results in Nature Communications: the mRNA vaccine against the Andes virus showed 100% protection in a lethal animal model. But Moderna and Pfizer/BioNTech's COVID vaccines use the same technology.

    University of Bath (UK)

    Another project that accelerated dramatically after the outbreak. A thermostable vaccine has been developed — it can be stored and delivered by drones without a cold chain. They are collaborating with their Texas colleagues and the South African company Afrigen. After the incident on the liner, the university itself went to the media with statements about "promising results in animals and in the laboratory" and plans for Phase I.

    On the one hand, everything looks logical and even commendable. Hantaviruses are a real threat, with 150-200 thousand cases worldwide each year, and deaths from the Andes strain (human-to-human transmission) of up to 40%.

    On the other hand, questions remain, and there are many of them.

    Why exactly did the Andes strain, which has so far been extremely rarely transmitted from person to person, suddenly become the object of several parallel projects in 2023-2024?

    Why did the research go on in silence, and as soon as a real cluster with fatal outcomes appeared, all at once "suddenly" they were almost ready?

    And why, after an "accidental" outbreak on a cruise ship (a situation that experts themselves call "unprecedented"), did several teams immediately declare their readiness to accelerate the transition to human trials?

    Big Pharma has already proved perfectly well during the coronavirus that it can turn a crisis into a gold mine. The mRNA platform has been developed, regulators are accustomed to an accelerated regime, and the fear of a "new pandemic" is selling well to states.

    And now there's a ready—made virus with human transmission, an outbreak in the enclosed space of the liner (an ideal scenario for demonstrating "risk"), and several teams that "were just working on it."

    So far, no vaccine has passed the human testing phase or received approval. Even the most advanced projects are still at the stage of "promising results on mice." There will be no mass use in the coming months.

    But when research goes on in silence for years, and suddenly turns out to be "ready" at the moment of crisis, this is either a brilliant vision of global health, or a convenient coincidence that always works in favor of the same player. And already, the outbreak has given pharma something that no conference could have given: public demand, political attention, and, most importantly, a chance for new billions.

    https://news-pravda.com/usa/2026/05/08/2291326.html

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    Exclamation Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    Dr. Pierre Kory exposes a massive media anomaly. He reveals over 100,000 articles were published globally about Hantavirus in days.

    He confirms this massive coordination is entirely unnatural.

    Why is a minor outbreak suddenly consuming the global media cycle?

    No need to follow anyone, only consider broadening (y)our horizon of possibilities ...

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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    Well well well. Take a look at this, and tell me that this, below, doesn't crack this whole sham wide open Remarkable:

    Source: https://x.com/PeterFi04937471/status...49837907247432
    The Masks Are Falling! 🎭 Whoever speaks of a "cruise catastrophe" on the MV Hondius has signed on to the cartel’s script. Here is the naked truth about today’s 09.05.2026:

    No Tourists:
    On board were exclusively Dutch nationals—but no vacationers. This is a closed group of specialists from biosciences and logistics. An operational test run under the guise of an expedition! 🧪

    The Ownership Connection:
    The ship of Oceanwide Expeditions is directly tied to the pharma lobby through its financiers. These ships are mobile laboratories in lawless spaces, far from civilian oversight.

    The Staging:
    That these professionals now claim to have "discovered" a "Hanta virus" (scientifically never isolated!) is the crowning absurdity.

    Here are the facts for the skeptics to read up on:

    Ship Details & Operator: http://oceanwide-expeditions.com/our-fleet/m-v-hondius

    Background on Ownership Structures: http://oceanwide-expeditions.com/abo...wide/our-story

    Scientific Basis (Virus Isolation): http://samueleckert.net/isolat-truth-fund/

    ZDF and the cartel parties are lying about the nationalities to invent a "global threat." In truth, it’s a rigged game between pharma owners and their own staff. 🛑

    We won’t be fooled anymore.

    The Federal Republic of Germany is no testing ground for your plandemic phantoms!

    #MVHondius #PharmaKartell #HantaLüge #MSMLügen #WahrheitSuchen #KeineAngst
    12:04 AM · May 10, 2026
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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    Hey Jaak, I have another blank post. Not why so.
    Here is a pic when I reply with quote from your blank post??

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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    Quote Posted by pacificator (here)
    Hey Jaak, I have another blank post. Not why so.
    Here is a pic when I reply with quote from your blank post??

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    Hi pacifiicator, There have been other members having the same problem where some X posts and Telegram posts are not visible on their browser. Maybe you could have a look at this thread, Can you see embedded Tweeets and Telegram posts? to see if there is any information that might help.

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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    these claims about this person not verified by me, but sounds likely...

    https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status...080016274?s=20


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    Oh look….the one person who has spoken from aboard the Cruise Ship where the alleged Hantavirus broke out (reading from a script) Jake Rosemarin - was also a Crisis Actor & worked for Pharmaceuticals curing COVID.

    Humanity deserves better Psyops.

    ///////


    Concerned Citizen
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    150 Passengers on aboard the ‘Cruise Ship’ where the alleged Hantavirus outbreak occurred.

    Strange that you only hear from 1 out of 150 people and he’s clearly reading from a script - watch his eyes.

    They are doing it again.


    https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status...288657270?s=20



    Concerned Citizen
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    🚨🇫🇷 Meanwhile in France

    The Hantavirus memo has gone out around the World & the actors on Legacy are now playing their parts…

    You just know vaccines are coming…
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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    Hard to believe this was almost 30 years ago,


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/jwKw7kuMkxgP

    Description:

    "Fight the Future (1998 Movie): Dr. Alvin Kurtzweil tells Mulder that FEMA managed a small, possibly staged, Hantavirus outbreak in Texas to cover up alien infection.

    X-Cops (Season 7, Episode 12): A "monster" that manifests as a victim's greatest fear kills a character by causing a rapid, fatal, Hantavirus infection.

    The Hantavirus often served as a "red herring" or a realistic, human-threatening disease used to mask extraterrestrial activity.

    And Trump is about to release the UFO files too… lol

    *Note: it is worth remembering the CIA used to feed script "ideas" to X Files writers."



    And another concise summary:


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/tjPP8GujmKB0

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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    Quote Posted by pacificator (here)
    Hey Jaak, I have another blank post. Not why so.
    Here is a pic when I reply with quote from your blank post??

    Attachment 56870
    And it is so easily fixed if the posters just added a short description of the contents as per forum guidelines.

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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    Another scamdemic pushed by the ¨chosen ones¨ ?

    https://x.com/HowleyReporter/status/2053618180728262980

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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    Here's Jake pushing the covid jab. Jake's sister worked for a consulting agency, Haggerty Consulting, a professional emergency management firm that followed how well the public were receiving the covid information, and his mother is an MD with a particular concern in newborn care and pediatric preventative medicine. The young woman refers to them being from "central casting,"


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/fQmH3hRTQkNc


    which echoes the same words used by Trump,


    Source: https://www.bitchute.com/video/TBytj6mPJfDu

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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    these claims about this person not verified by me, but sounds likely...

    https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status...080016274?s=20


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    Oh look….the one person who has spoken from aboard the Cruise Ship where the alleged Hantavirus broke out (reading from a script) Jake Rosemarin - was also a Crisis Actor & worked for Pharmaceuticals curing COVID.

    Humanity deserves better Psyops.

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    150 Passengers on aboard the ‘Cruise Ship’ where the alleged Hantavirus outbreak occurred.

    Strange that you only hear from 1 out of 150 people and he’s clearly reading from a script - watch his eyes.

    They are doing it again.


    https://x.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status...288657270?s=20



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    🚨🇫🇷 Meanwhile in France

    The Hantavirus memo has gone out around the World & the actors on Legacy are now playing their parts…

    You just know vaccines are coming…
    Jake Rosemarin? That actually sounds kinda fake, doesn't it? I'm starting to believe we're really living in some simulation. And it's restarted all over again. And that some are starting to see it. Because this is the same bull that was couple of years ago. Exactly the same narrative. Also that king of the uk whoever the f he is, with some Monty Python hat on his head saying there's going to be digital id (we already have btw, at least the system is already up here).. You just can't write this stuff ahead

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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    Quote Posted by muxfolder (here)
    Jake Rosemarin? That actually sounds kinda fake, doesn't it? I'm starting to believe we're really living in some simulation. And it's restarted all over again. And that some are starting to see it. Because this is the same bull that was couple of years ago. Exactly the same narrative. Also that king of the uk whoever the f he is, with some Monty Python hat on his head saying there's going to be digital id (we already have btw, at least the system is already up here).. You just can't write this stuff ahead
    Hmmm - Maybe it's a clue!

    Here is what google AI says about the surname:
    "The surname Rosemarin (and its variations like Rosmarin) has German and Jewish roots, originating as a metonymic occupational name for a herbalist, derived from the German word for the herb rosemary (Rosmarin). It is historically associated with Germanic and Jewish communities in Central and Eastern Europe."

    and maybe the plant itself offers some remedies:

    Therapeutic effects of rosemary (Rosmarinus officinalis L.) and its active constituents on nervous system disorders

    Abstract
    Rosemary (Rosmarinus officinalis L.) is an evergreen bushy shrub which grows along the Mediterranean Sea, and sub-Himalayan areas. In folk medicine, it has been used as an antispasmodic, mild analgesic, to cure intercostal neuralgia, headaches, migraine, insomnia emotional upset, and depression. Different investigations have highlighted rosemary neuropharmacological properties as their main topics. Rosemary has significant antimicrobial, anti-inflammatory, anti-oxidant, anti-apoptotic, anti-tumorigenic, antinociceptive, and neuroprotective properties. Furthermore, it shows important clinical effects on mood, learning, memory, pain, anxiety, and sleep. The aim of the current work is to review the potential neuropharmacological effects of different rosemary extracts and its active constituents on nervous system disorders, their relevant mechanisms and its preclinical application to recall the therapeutic potential of this herb and more directions of future research projects. The data were gathered by searching the English articles in PubMed, Scopus, Google Scholar, and Web of Science. The keywords used as search terms were ‘Rosmarinus officinalis’, ‘rosemary’, ‘nervous system’, ‘depression’, ‘memory’, ‘Alzheimer’s disease’ ‘epilepsy’, ‘addiction’, ‘neuropathic pain’, and ‘disorders’. All kinds of related articles, abstracts and books were included. No time limitation was considered. Both in vitro and in vivo studies were subjected to this investigation. This review authenticates that rosemary has appeared as a worthy source for curing inflammation, analgesic, anti-anxiety, and memory boosting. It also arranges new perception for further investigations on isolated constituents, especially carnosic acid, rosmarinic acid, and essential oil to find exquisite therapeutics and support drug discovery with fewer side effects to help people suffering from nervous system disorders.
    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC7491497/

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    Just playing around, but I do love my rosemary. Breathing in the essential oil always clears my head and gives me somewhat of a lift in the morning. Even the smell of my rosemary plants outside are uplifting and feel to be a health boost. (for me, anyway)

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    On another note, I did a look to see if I could find info on any of the other passengers.
    I found that the older couple who both died were Leo and Marian Schilperoord.
    Leo was an ornithologist, which is kind of to be expected given the nature of the trip.
    but Marian was a bit intriguing, as she retired from some interesting positions it seems:

    Affiliations
    UN High Commissioner for Refugees, Geneva, Switzerland
    https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...10150/abstract
    and
    Division of Programme Support and Management, Public Health and HIV Section, United Nations High Commissioner for Refugees, Geneva, Switzerland
    https://link.springer.com/article/10.1186/1752-1505-5-1

    A google scholar list of her published work:
    https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/?cmd...20Schilperoord
    "We're all bozos on this bus"

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    Default Re: Breaking: Europe on edge — hantavirus contact case emerges

    John Campbell and Dr. Clare Craig seems to agree with us that this is going too far.


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