Learned to trust God.. the hard way

[petra]

Through all my experiences and psychotic episode I've learned a valuable lesson, and that is to trust God. I never used to think God paid any attention to little old me but then I got involved with something really quite obscure. My thoughts started talking to me, and to each other, which distracted me for quite a long time. There were constant questions that were really hard to answer, and the feeling of being in two places at once. At one point I thought I was doomed and that's the moment I decided I had no choice but to trust God

I know this will not apply to everyone, only a select few people need to hear this. Spirituality is really personal, and a lot depends on how you choose to look at things.

I'd still like to be an Angel even if it means giving up my free will. I just don't want to fight any more wars. Wars are supposed to end!

Lucifer is on Gods side again and I don't think anyone anticipated that but that's what I saw. God wants his Angels back.. all of them!

[Vicus]

Just observations...

First: I'm not a psychologist/zealot orthodox,/ new age, /materialist/pragmatic/mystique/whatever WOO...just a seeker, like most people in this forum...

Meaning.: I'm open for all kind information from every possible corner... like a native American hut Decoration of feathers, each feather is something from information/knowledge ,weightless...

From your post your struggles could come first from 2 principal source:

1) psychological: like splinted personality ( there are too many variants and consequences from them) however, there is a long story from wrong "analysis" from a materialistic only view of the world...

An many sane people just got "another" connection with the world and behind that...

2) Others: like many different case presented in montalknet, yes, I read that page many years... too!
like wetiko parasite, by Castaneda named Flyers , and notice from Gurdjief too! something like "Astral implants" parasite, always trying to control your "reactions" in negative way...special trough your EGO.

Personal experience: once I was up from a Staircase discussing whit someone 2 steps under about petty money... and suddenly came to me a voice/thinking JUST PUSH HIM DOWN! what???

WHO/WHAT said that! I don't want to kill! who/what are you? not me...I'm the Boss here ,not you! whatever you are /come from!

After my reaction that though "form " went away...

Meaning: control your though! otherwise "something else will do"!

[Matthew]

Biblically the fallen angels are already judged and condemned by God. They are going to the Abyss. no condition, no redemption. They'll take us with them if they can, by seducing us as angels of light then betraying us. Except God has delegated phenomenal power to us to combat them, and He used the fallen angles own obsession with child sacrifice against them by incarnating as His own son then sacrificing Himself to nullify that. Jesus and the Holy Spirit for the win. 1 John 4:2 check if the spirit confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. If they do then they're from God. Otherwise they're assholes

[onawah]

Well said...

Posted by Matthew (here)
Otherwise they're assholes

[petra]

There's a lot of traps. I remember being asked if I thought I was smarter than Lucifer and of course I said no, I knew it was a trap.

I think God wants peace. I can't explain it, I guess you could say I received a message in the form of an image. It didn't come in words, and it looked like a peace sign, when I was asking about what I should pray for

[East Sun]

I was on a forum a few days ago with someone that i didn't even write the name of so don't have any way of getting back to. He had some great questions that gave me thoughts I would like to follow up on, Questions
that I ask myself and would like to put forward here to get possible answers to. I am not into debates or don't
want any preaching at all.
Just thoughts/questions or answers about Biblical things.

Tree of Life. Apple tree of course. Why was the Snake? in the garden of Eden/paradise? The Snake? said that
God lied about whether you would die if you ate of the fruit/apple. Adam and Eve ate the fruit but did not die.
What kind of death did God refer to?
Or was the Serpent/snake correct?

[Eddy Fire]

Cycling back from Tescos one February, I stopped and looked down to zip up my jacket after an icy blast of wind hit. Exactly in my line of sight, in the gutter was a miniature bible. It was one of the dry winters, the cover was missing but it was readable, with a magnifying glass.
I took the hint and got a copy and started from the beginning, Yahweh is a tribal supremacist psychopath, urging his people to massacre other tribes, to the last man, woman, child or goat.
The OT shouldn't be attached to Jesus's message, as I understand it. I was probably about Isaac's age when I was told to revere Abraham, for breaking tradition and not murdering his own son, but was amazed that this story was supposed to make me a believer.
I went a bit feral growing up in a gamekeepers cottage in the woods, but it was inside the house that was red in tooth and claw. Obviously I saw predation and was used to seeing the corpses of animals, but humans have alternatives, which are still outside our tribal programming.
The choice of bowing down and fearing creation, or becoming one who is feared and bowed down to aren't interesting or real to me.

[arjunaloka_official]

Posted by East Sun (here)
Tree of Life. Apple tree of course. Why was the Snake? in the garden of Eden/paradise? The Snake? said that
God lied about whether you would die if you ate of the fruit/apple. Adam and Eve ate the fruit but did not die.
What kind of death did God refer to?
Or was the Serpent/snake correct?

The snake is the option to do divert from God´s laws, which I suppose is required, for otherwise the free will would be incomplete.

Adam and Eve died - they turned mortal, representing fallen humanity, who has been expulsed from Paradise.

To return to Paradise I suppose you need to adhere to the Ten Commandments and the Golden Rule as best as you can, in case of which you can hope for Ephesians 2,8-9:

"For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— not by works, so that no one can boast."

[arjunaloka_official]

Posted by Matthew (here)
Biblically the fallen angels are already judged and condemned by God. They are going to the Abyss. no condition, no redemption. They'll take us with them if they can, by seducing us as angels of light then betraying us. Except God has delegated phenomenal power to us to combat them, and He used the fallen angles own obsession with child sacrifice against them by incarnating as His own son then sacrificing Himself to nullify that. Jesus and the Holy Spirit for the win. 1 John 4:2 check if the spirit confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. If they do then they're from God. Otherwise they're assholes

All beings have been created by the Lord and even though some of them have moved really, really far away from Him, for the Lord nothing is impossible - even tough the way back will probably be lengthly and painful for certain beings.

[petra]

Posted by arjunaloka_official (here)

Posted by Matthew (here)
Biblically the fallen angels are already judged and condemned by God. They are going to the Abyss. no condition, no redemption. They'll take us with them if they can, by seducing us as angels of light then betraying us. Except God has delegated phenomenal power to us to combat them, and He used the fallen angles own obsession with child sacrifice against them by incarnating as His own son then sacrificing Himself to nullify that. Jesus and the Holy Spirit for the win. 1 John 4:2 check if the spirit confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh. If they do then they're from God. Otherwise they're assholes

All beings have been created by the Lord and even though some of them have moved really, really far away from Him, for the Lord nothing is impossible - even tough the way back will probably be lengthly and painful for certain beings.

Yeah.. like Lucifer. I feel bad for him. In my mind he/it is like a little boy. He reminds me of Harry Potter!

Sure it could be another trick. But I don't think so. I think he's finally learned his lesson it just took a really long time. And now he's helping God. I was there when God forgave him, and then he immediately got sent back "down here" to fix the mess he had made

[petra]

Posted by East Sun (here)
I was on a forum a few days ago with someone that i didn't even write the name of so don't have any way of getting back to. He had some great questions that gave me thoughts I would like to follow up on, Questions
that I ask myself and would like to put forward here to get possible answers to. I am not into debates or don't
want any preaching at all.
Just thoughts/questions or answers about Biblical things.

Tree of Life. Apple tree of course. Why was the Snake? in the garden of Eden/paradise? The Snake? said that
God lied about whether you would die if you ate of the fruit/apple. Adam and Eve ate the fruit but did not die.
What kind of death did God refer to?
Or was the Serpent/snake correct?

I can't answer these questions but I can say that I don't think this was God. It sounds just like another alien that thinks it's God. My mother told me the garden of Eden was not on earth, and to me that makes sense

There were a whole other set of Gods, the Greek gods who fought about who is the most beautiful, all because of an Apple. Now does that sound very godlike to you? Because to me it just sounds childish

[Matthew]

Posted by arjunaloka_official (here)
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All beings have been created by the Lord and even though some of them have moved really, really far away from Him, for the Lord nothing is impossible - even tough the way back will probably be lengthly and painful for certain beings.

No seriously, in the Bible fallen angles are going to Hell... no second chance, no redemption. It's final and they're biding their time trying to take us with them. We're the ones offered redemption while they look on. They really hate us. Hell was built FOR them

[petra]

Posted by Matthew (here)

Posted by arjunaloka_official (here)
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All beings have been created by the Lord and even though some of them have moved really, really far away from Him, for the Lord nothing is impossible - even tough the way back will probably be lengthly and painful for certain beings.

No seriously, in the Bible fallen angles are going to Hell... no second chance, no redemption. It's final and they're biding their time trying to take us with them. We're the ones offered redemption while they look on. They really hate us. Hell was built FOR them

That's what Satan wants you to think. God isn't going to doom anyone, that thing threatening hell? That's an alien I'm sorry to break it to you

[petra]

I should say.. all of my experiences happened quite some time ago, over a year. Not that it matters much because some of these beings live "outside of time" so to speak

Part of why I chose to trust God is also because I could not trust myself anymore. I felt as if I had been in a way "hacked"

I think I can trust myself again now. At least for the time being. Thanks to everyone who is posting, I feel as if I'm actually making a difference

[Matthew]

Posted by petra (here)

Posted by Matthew (here)

Posted by arjunaloka_official (here)
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All beings have been created by the Lord and even though some of them have moved really, really far away from Him, for the Lord nothing is impossible - even tough the way back will probably be lengthly and painful for certain beings.

No seriously, in the Bible fallen angles are going to Hell... no second chance, no redemption. It's final and they're biding their time trying to take us with them. We're the ones offered redemption while they look on. They really hate us. Hell was built FOR them

That's what Satan wants you to think. God isn't going to doom anyone, that thing threatening hell? That's an alien I'm sorry to break it to you

Your source is your imagination. For what it's worth my source is the Bible

[petra]

I haven't read the bible but I think I'm ready to answer questions about God if anybody has any. I'll start..

Q: How do you know God isn't evil

My answer: Because I am not evil. If God was evil that means I would be evil too

[petra]

Q: Aren't God and the Demiurge the same thing

My answer: No. God is alive and he has feelings. The Demiurge is not alive and it doesn't have any feelings