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    i'm a pagan. I pray to the universe. But on planet earth demons and satan are very powerfull. In my experience I found out about something amazing. First of all all demons come from a place called the astral. The spirit world.
    The news. They are using spirit amplifiers. From an entity that is small you can make something big as the world. A small entity cannot harm you. A big entity can.
    Just imagine a harmless hamster that becomes big as a city. That would be a monster and a threat to the world. A rat that is enormous can do a lot of harm.
    Now with your mind try and make demons and satan small as a hamster. All that the demons ever did is just as small as a hamster. And just so you know they amplify themselves.
    Satan is the king of all diseases, the leukemia of gods. The liar.

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    The idea, I think, is not to beat Satan, but to find out who you are, this will inform you of your pathway here and why you came. With this knowledge you can more purely and in a more focused ( less distracted ) manner begin to satisfy that reason. You truly are the center and circumference of what is here. It is not easy to grow out beyond one's personal field into what is true consensus space. The thoughts you are using are more apt to prolong the game, lengthen your stay, than to liberate you. It is our very own self who we have to best.
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    Part of an opinion the rest of which is too personal to share.


    Gratitude and real faith is where Satan can only look, without touching.

    "We" can't beat Satan, and we can't best ourselves by self empowerment either. Satan actually wants us to pursue self empowerment, because it takes us further away from 'God'.

    It's OK if you think I'm talking bolox, I'm past caring about changing anybody's orientation in the energies. We can't do that by intellectual argument anyway.

    I've known and loved Pagans in this life. They have much that is beautiful about them. That they worship the creation instead of the creator was unknown to myself until recently too.
    ..................................................my first language is TYPO..............................................

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    Happened to me several times when trying to go out of my body and i would mess up something and i end up in sleep paralysis. Half in and half out of the body,kinda stuck between. Often some weird entities would show up who try to scare you and terrify you and at first they succeeded with me. I remember one incident when some dark cloudy figure attached to my face and was sucking energy out of me. After coming out of this i felt exhausted as hell. As i later learned that when you confidently say the name Jesus then they will scatter immediatly and leave you alone. And i aint even christian and i disagree with many of their beliefs and yet it has always worked when i had to use that name.
    So yes these demons seem like spiritual parasites,like leeches or mosquitos. But i dont think they can affect you unless you drop down to their level (negative emotion and lower rate of vibration and larger wavelength in the spirit/soul). Thats why when they show up and you aint scared of them then they will try to scare you.

    I have only had experienced with these sleep paralysis demons and i dont know about other kind of demons..

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    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    Happened to me several times when trying to go out of my body and i would mess up something and i end up in sleep paralysis. Half in and half out of the body,kinda stuck between. Often some weird entities would show up who try to scare you and terrify you and at first they succeeded with me. I remember one incident when some dark cloudy figure attached to my face and was sucking energy out of me. After coming out of this i felt exhausted as hell. As i later learned that when you confidently say the name Jesus then they will scatter immediatly and leave you alone. And i aint even christian and i disagree with many of their beliefs and yet it has always worked when i had to use that name.
    So yes these demons seem like spiritual parasites,like leeches or mosquitos. But i dont think they can affect you unless you drop down to their level (negative emotion and lower rate of vibration and larger wavelength in the spirit/soul). Thats why when they show up and you aint scared of them then they will try to scare you.

    I have only had experienced with these sleep paralysis demons and i dont know about other kind of demons..
    they can amplify themselves. big as a city. the astral has those capabilities.

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    Quote Posted by Cristi Copac (here)
    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    Happened to me several times when trying to go out of my body and i would mess up something and i end up in sleep paralysis. Half in and half out of the body,kinda stuck between. Often some weird entities would show up who try to scare you and terrify you and at first they succeeded with me. I remember one incident when some dark cloudy figure attached to my face and was sucking energy out of me. After coming out of this i felt exhausted as hell. As i later learned that when you confidently say the name Jesus then they will scatter immediatly and leave you alone. And i aint even christian and i disagree with many of their beliefs and yet it has always worked when i had to use that name.
    So yes these demons seem like spiritual parasites,like leeches or mosquitos. But i dont think they can affect you unless you drop down to their level (negative emotion and lower rate of vibration and larger wavelength in the spirit/soul). Thats why when they show up and you aint scared of them then they will try to scare you.

    I have only had experienced with these sleep paralysis demons and i dont know about other kind of demons..
    they can amplify themselves. big as a city. the astral has those capabilities.
    Only for you and only if you give them ALLOWANCE for it by your fears or beliefs. Then you might attract them and they may have power over you and yes, even 'grow' for you in the astral and around your personal field (talking about attachments and stuff).
    But you can prevent it no matter if you are out body or stay in body by keeping up a positive vibe and so you will not attract them. It is like a shield. Law of Attraction works really here. Years ago when I had countless OBEs I had never a negative encounter out of body because I do not attract them with my thoughts or fears. I went (go) out to have a blast, have fun or do something productive, creative or helpful, or just to discover some (higher) level. Normally then with a positive attitude nothing negative happens.
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    Quote Posted by Jaak (here)
    But i don't think they can affect you unless you drop down to their level (negative emotion and lower rate of vibration and larger wavelength in the spirit/soul).
    Yes... You cannot perceive what you are not the vibration of ! Re-member everything is a reflection, universe is a mirror. Once you truly Know Thyself, these types of experiences cease. Everything is happening within your consciousness, all you will ever find is more of yourself.

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    In the past, in an earlier version of myself, I too have had these types of experiences,which drove me to further expand my awareness, my consciousness. It took a while.

    Remember...

    We are each the center of our own You-niverse. There is no out there. This is the big Joke when awakening from the dream called physical reality. We all have a good laugh, we look back at the experience, we learn from it ,and like all dreams it fades away and we are on to our next adventure. Of course form a greater perspective, all adventures, all experiences are are all happening simultaneously. This is what we do for entertainment, expansion and growth this is the nature of existence.
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    The idea, I think, is not to beat Satan, but to find out who you are, this will inform you of your pathway here and why you came. With this knowledge you can more purely and in a more focused ( less distracted ) manner begin to satisfy that reason. You truly are the center and circumference of what is here. It is not easy to grow out beyond one's personal field into what is true consensus space. The thoughts you are using are more apt to prolong the game, lengthen your stay, than to liberate you. It is our very own self who we have to best.
    Wow thanks Casey that is very well put! It's often like I am fighting myself, and I've taken spiritual warfare to a whole new level.

    My mother called the spiritual war "evil's last stand" and I never really understood but am starting to. Neitzsche said "And if you gaze long into an abyss, the abyss also gazes into you".. I've been gazed into once or twice. Another seeker who I met a long time ago told me those who know God exists search for Satan, and those who know Satan exists search for God. His name was Harry.. sadly we lost him to psychosis.

    My trust in God Almighty is how I "defeated" Satan. I know he cannot be killed in that kind of sense, and I couldn't have gotten this far without God's help. Every time I found myself in a scary illusion or whatever it was that was going on, alien abductions or whatever else, I would think "trust God.. trust God" almost incessantly. Always, inevitably, I would be fine.

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    I had an unmediated relationship with nature, I never saw any evil in it. I believe what we call evil, is from the human imagination, not that I am denying it has power over people.

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    Quote Posted by Eddy Fire (here)
    I had an unmediated relationship with nature, I never saw any evil in it. I believe what we call evil, is from the human imagination, not that I am denying it has power over people.
    I never saw any for the longest time. For me it started when my child was taken away by child services when I was about 35. I started getting what I call "evil grins" through various people, be it lawyers or social workers. I wondered - are these people doing more harm than good, or good than harm? I care about the children too and my mother told me children were supposed to me "immune" to that kind of thing. But then I think of my little brother and how he had "evil voices" in his head. He was so young! I told him once "but the voices aren't real!" and it made him cry. What a sin. It's real to him.

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    Hideously ignorant and cowardly people, can develop a love of cruelty, which is a level of stupid I find baffling. That they can't see how they diminish themselves and their experience is amazing, there's not much comfort in that for their victims, but these are life's greatest losers, despite many being astonishingly wealthy.

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    Quote Posted by Eddy Fire (here)
    Hideously ignorant and cowardly people, can develop a love of cruelty, which is a level of stupid I find baffling. That they can't see how they diminish themselves and their experience is amazing, there's not much comfort in that for their victims, but these are life's greatest losers, despite many being astonishingly wealthy.
    I like to joke that "evil makes me stupid", its kind of an inside joke (because it happened inside me). Sometimes, I forget a key piece of information that affects my decision making, and it's suspicious. Tom Montalk touches on that a little bit in his "Art of Hyperdimensional War" page.

    I know a few people who used to torment animals when they were young, and now they feel terrible about it. I can totally see how it could go the other way though, and instead they develop a delight in cruelty. I find it baffling too. It's just not natural, and here I am back to worrying about the children again. I was a bit of an "evil child" too but I grew out of it. I don't torment people anymore, but I do remember doing it. I thought it was fun.

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