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    I think you nailed it. It feels to me like the purpose of data centers is to actually help bring about a very negative transhumanist agenda.
    One more toxic, underhanded way in which the controllers hope to subvert humanity's natural process of evolution.
    A good description of that change is spelled out in The Ethical Skeptic's article "What is Agency?" posted here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1719912

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    The absolutely staggering size of the total data centers would seem to go beyond the needs of the camera network, and I'm not understanding the purpose or how it has monetary value. Even if I wanted the cameras, I would still be at a loss as to the existence of the rest of it. Seems speculative. Very nearly meets the definition of paranormal.

    On a moral level, I feel that if these resources are available, they have to be used for the obvious betterment of society. I've been unable to find that actually happening, and, so, this explains the relative theft of well being.
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    What Can We Do?

    The companies behind the data center boom are moving quickly into communities across the region, many with promises of prosperity. But some communities are pushing back and saying that data centers are not worth the health and environmental impacts. If you agree with that sentiment, there are steps you can take to combat data centers in your backyard.

    First, check if your municipality has a data center ordinance. If not, urge officials to adopt one.

    Then, identify opportunities for community participation before the proposed data center is approved. Will a public hearing be required? If so, take this opportunity to express your concerns and to share this resource with other community members.

    Next, reference nuisance control ordinances (rules for limiting noise, light, and vibrations), plus zoning laws that would restrict new data centers in your region.
    If the data center must be built, advocate for limiting the use of fossil fuels in both everyday operations and generator backups. Encourage decision makers and developers to utilize renewable energy sources, such as wind turbines and solar panels.

    Finally, urge decision makers to require any facility to report their emissions and share an emergency preparedness plan with the community.

    https://www.environmentalhealthproje...f-data-centers

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    Given what a perilous state the electric grid is already in due to the diminishment of the Earth's protective magnetic field as the ongoing pole reversal continues (see the thread Geomagnetic Reversals and Ice Ages) it appears there is a plot afoot to bring the grid down even more quickly.
    Meanwhile, the political debates and countless other lesser issues continue to preoccupy the public while the veritable rug is being pulled out from under humanity's feet.
    The days remaining to this paradigm are dwindling more all the time.
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    An early-morning thought here.

    It has to be possible that the new escalation threat in the Iran war, combined with an imminent severe oil shock (and an accompanying helium shock, which affects the manufacturing of GPUs), might combine to end up crashing the global and/or US economy. AI stocks might be the first to be sold off, and if there's a severe energy shortage as well data centers will be massively affected.

    The whole precarious house of cards really might come crashing down.

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    Trump told the EPA, "You have to convince your community. You can't fight it. You have to go with it. If you don't take all that money, somebody else is going to take it." I'll hold my tongue...

    Trump Says 'Very Smart Communities' Really Want Data Centers: 'They're Begging for Them'

    Trump advocates for AI data centres, promising economic benefits despite public concerns over rising utility costs.

    Donald Trump expanded his 'Ratepayer Protection Pledge' to shield American households from utility price hikes caused by the massive electricity demands of AI data centres

    US President Donald Trump defended the rapid spread of AI data centres on Thursday, saying 'very smart communities' want the projects even as voters worry about higher electricity bills, water use and local disruption.

    Trump made the remarks while expanding his voluntary Ratepayer Protection Pledge, a White House-backed commitment meant to stop ordinary consumers from paying for the electricity and grid upgrades demanded by new data centres.

    'You have communities that really want the data centres,' Trump said. 'They are begging for them. Very smart communities.'



    He argued that towns and cities should embrace the projects because they bring investment, jobs and tax revenue with 'very little actual disruption.'

    'You have to convince your community,' Trump said separately at the Environmental Protection Agency. 'You can't fight it. You have to go with it.' He added: 'If you don't take all that money, somebody else is going to take it.'

    What the Pledge Is Supposed to Do

    The pledge says data centre operators should bring, build or pay for the power they use, rather than pushing those costs on to households and small businesses. It also calls on operators to pay for related infrastructure, invest in local communities and, where possible, make backup power available during emergencies.

    The White House said the pledge has now been signed by 23 governors and at least 187 companies, including 55 utilities and 27 data centre developers. Major signatories include NextEra Energy, Duke Energy, American Electric Power, Southern Co. and Pacific Gas & Electric.

    The administration says the expanded pledge now covers 80% of power delivered to US homes and businesses and will protect 263 million Americans when a data centre is built nearby.

    Trump Says Bills Will Come Down

    Trump promised that the arrangement would lower utility bills because companies building data centres would also help create more power.

    'Electricity bills for American families will actually come down,' he said. 'They're going to have a lot of electricity left over, and they'll put that into the grid.'

    That claim is central to the White House argument. AI companies need huge amounts of electricity to power servers, cooling systems and cloud infrastructure. If they fund new generation and grid upgrades themselves, the administration says communities can gain jobs and tax revenue without forcing residents to subsidise the boom.

    Critics Call the Plan Too Weak

    The pledge has not convinced everyone. It is voluntary, and critics across the political spectrum have questioned whether it can actually prevent utilities from passing costs to customers. Power prices are usually shaped by state regulators, utilities and electricity buyers, not by a White House pledge alone.

    The concern is not theoretical. A recent analysis by ICF, a consulting and technology services company, estimated that rising electricity demand could push monthly utility bills up by 15% to 40% by 2030.

    Voters are also worried about land use, water demand, school impacts and whether data centres make communities more expensive and less livable. Opposition has spread across party lines, including in rural Texas, where frustration over new projects has grown.

    https://www.ibtimes.co.uk/trump-defe...ncerns-1810482

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