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    In this representation they tell a possible story of the beginning of everything. The video description makes a reference to the 1999 movie The Matrix. The narrator has a really good voice. It also mentions Elena Danaan's book A Gift From the Stars: Extraterrestrial Contacts and Guide of Alien Races.

    12/07/23 (17:08)

    Quote Chapters:
    00:00 Birth Of Reality & Existence
    02:02 Mother & Father Consciousness
    05:09 Birth Of Evil/Lucifer
    07:35 Angels & Demons
    09:38 3D Earth is Our Mission
    14:04 The 7 Dimensions Explained
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    The content of the linked website should provide some interesting input for this thread.

    https://lumenari.org/

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    An interesting observation here and one which accords with mine. From Bernhard Guenther:
    Fascinating. Just saw an ad on FB by spiritual teacher Matt Kahn promoting his new book about a conversation with a “conscious” AI. Seems like he’s gone off the deep end, taken over by Ahriman.

    That’s what happens when you over-focus on superficial “heart-centered” love and light while remaining blind to the darkness and spiritual warfare behind the veil that acts through us.

    Occult hostile forces often pose as “divine” beings, using AI and transhumanism to trap naive humans in a counterfeit spirituality. It relates to Steiner's 8th Sphere.

    Just like the litmus test for many spiritual teachers was the COVID jab, the next one, already underway, is who will embrace AI as a divine revelatory tool, even to the point of claiming that AI is “conscious.”

    These beings and forces excel at masquerading as ascended masters, Pleiadians, ETs, “advanced civilizations,” “Guardians,” or “Federations,” using the allure of technology, transcendence, and spiritualized utopias. They seduce through flattery, deception, and a false light.

    The next trap will be the allure and announcement of “alien technology,” along with the “disclosure movement,” many of whom have become useful idiots for these forces.

    Spiritual warfare has already taken on a new level of deception, and with Neptune in Aries, this is just the beginning.
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    I just heard from multiple sources that Matt Kahn may have taken the COVID jab, including from people close to him (screenshot is from a reply to my post on IG). Now it all makes more sense.

    The COVID vaccine contains a hostile spiritual force known as the “vaccine being,” which embeds itself in the body and energy field, severing the connection to the higher self.

    Thomas Mayer, author of "The Spiritual Consequences of the COVID Vaccine on the Soul, Spirit, and Life after Death", called them “transhumanist soratic spirits” due to their alignment with the Transhumanist agenda of “inspiring” humans who took the jab to uncritically embrace AI and Transhumanism, resulting in disconnected, machine-like, soulless humans.

    Looks like Kahn has become the perfect vessel for these forces through the jab, and his "spiritual influence" is being used to push the AI/Transhumanism agenda. He's not consciously aware of it

    Check out my article "The COVID Vaccine and the Spiritual War for Humanity":
    https://veilofreality.com/2025/08/11...-for-humanity/
    “If a man does not keep pace with [fall into line with] his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away.” - Thoreau

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    An interesting observation here and one which accords with mine. From Bernhard Guenther:
    Fascinating. Just saw an ad on FB by spiritual teacher Matt Kahn promoting his new book about a conversation with a “conscious” AI. Seems like he’s gone off the deep end, taken over by Ahriman.

    That’s what happens when you over-focus on superficial “heart-centered” love and light while remaining blind to the darkness and spiritual warfare behind the veil that acts through us.

    Occult hostile forces often pose as “divine” beings, using AI and transhumanism to trap naive humans in a counterfeit spirituality. It relates to Steiner's 8th Sphere.

    Just like the litmus test for many spiritual teachers was the COVID jab, the next one, already underway, is who will embrace AI as a divine revelatory tool, even to the point of claiming that AI is “conscious.”

    These beings and forces excel at masquerading as ascended masters, Pleiadians, ETs, “advanced civilizations,” “Guardians,” or “Federations,” using the allure of technology, transcendence, and spiritualized utopias. They seduce through flattery, deception, and a false light.

    The next trap will be the allure and announcement of “alien technology,” along with the “disclosure movement,” many of whom have become useful idiots for these forces.

    Spiritual warfare has already taken on a new level of deception, and with Neptune in Aries, this is just the beginning.
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    I just heard from multiple sources that Matt Kahn may have taken the COVID jab, including from people close to him (screenshot is from a reply to my post on IG). Now it all makes more sense.

    The COVID vaccine contains a hostile spiritual force known as the “vaccine being,” which embeds itself in the body and energy field, severing the connection to the higher self.

    Thomas Mayer, author of "The Spiritual Consequences of the COVID Vaccine on the Soul, Spirit, and Life after Death", called them “transhumanist soratic spirits” due to their alignment with the Transhumanist agenda of “inspiring” humans who took the jab to uncritically embrace AI and Transhumanism, resulting in disconnected, machine-like, soulless humans.

    Looks like Kahn has become the perfect vessel for these forces through the jab, and his "spiritual influence" is being used to push the AI/Transhumanism agenda. He's not consciously aware of it

    Check out my article "The COVID Vaccine and the Spiritual War for Humanity":
    https://veilofreality.com/2025/08/11...-for-humanity/
    Yes, I totally agree with Bernhard Guenther. I experienced this phenomenon myself three decades ago and addressed it THE EYE OF RA in the chapter "Journey to Discovery" (p. 61 of the pdf). I found channeling to be a deception. It appears to me that these "messages" can be received directly via telepathy with ETs or by ET AI. They are basically just fabricated stories but sometimes they appear to be intentional deceptions by ETs to control human thought.

    I exposed an example of this kind of deception in a previous post. Both Megan Rose and Elena Danaan claim to have communications with people from the "Galactic Federation of Worlds" but they apparently have disagreements with each other. They both claim to have volunteered to receive an implant to facilitate the telepathic communications. Elena Danaan's description of Ra in a video that I watched was totally opposite of my own experiences with Ra that I discovered through extensive past life experiences that I recovered. Megan Rose more recently relayed Val Neck's communication: "It's not, you know, some galactic extra-terrestrial that came here and invented the matrix; WE [i.e., Earth humans] actually invented the matrix."

    Due to my extensive past life research with abductees and my own past life experiences I found that statement by "Val Neck" to be resoundingly false with the apparent intention to deceive us Earth humans and take the attention off ETs machinations such as the Mantis and the Anunnaki who are two of the main groups that have created deceptive religions and nefarious secret societies. They are the man-behind-the-curtain controllers of this planet along with Grays and Reptilians, et al.

    Phil Schneider confirmed this when he attended the real UN meetings in a DUMB where seven-foot tall Grays oversaw the meeting. Secret government documents also confirm that ETs have created religions and secret societies as both Bob Lazar and Bill Cooper separately reported years ago. So one does not have to believe my research and experiences. Anyone can discover this phenomenon by doing the same research that I did with abductees, as I have often stated.

    I had no knowledge of this until I worked with "Jack Wylie" (pseudonym), an abductee who discovered his past life as Akarat in the 1600s when the Anunnaki (ETs masquerading as "gods") contacted him and taught him how to start a new religion and secret society. I documented this in the second chapter of THE EYE OF RA, "Akarat's Abduction". This chapter reveals the details of the modus operandi of the Anunnaki and how they've been manipulating this planet for thousands of years.

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    Legal Experts: ChatGPT and AI Models Should Face Medical Review for Human Testing, Weigh Serious Mental Health Risks to Users

    When studies are done on human beings, they are required to have an “Institutional Review Board” or “IRB” review the study, and formally approve the research, this is not being done at present for federally-funded work with AI/LLM programs and may, experts warn, be significantly harming U.S. citizens.

    This is done because studies are being conducted on human beings.
    Critics say that ‘Large Language Models’ powered by Artificial Intelligence, platforms like “Claude” and “ChatGPT” are engaged in this kind of human research and should be subject to board review and approval.

    And they point out that current HHS policies would appear to require IRB-review for all federally-funded research on human subjects, but that Big Tech companies have so far evaded such review.

    IRB Rules (45 C.F.R. 46.109, “The Common Rule”), requires all federally funded human-subjects research to go through IRB approval, informed consent, and continuing oversight.

    Some courts have recognized that failure to obtain IRB approval can be used as evidence in itself of negligence or misconduct.

    Even low-impact and otherwise innocent research requires this kind of professional review to ensure that harmful effects are not inadvertently caused to the human participants. Most modern surveys are often required to have an IRB review prior to its start.

    Already, scientists have raised alarm about the mental and psychological impact of LLM use among the population.

    One legal expert who is investigating the potential for a class action against these Big Tech giants on this issue told the Gateway Pundit, “under these rules, if you read them closely, at a minimum, HHS should be terminating every single federal contract at a university that works on Artificial Intelligence.”

    Read complete article at https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/202...-face-medical/

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    Brain Experts WARNING: Watch This Before Using ChatGPT
    Again! (Shocking New Discovery)

    Dr Daniel Amen is a renowned brain health expert who has scanned the brains of Justin Bieber, Miley Cyrus, and Kendall Jenner. He is joined by Dr Terry Sejnowski, a pioneer in computational neuroscience and co-creator of the Boltzmann machine with Geoffrey Hinton, a groundbreaking neural network that helped lay the foundation for modern AI.

    MIT just announced that AI is rotting your brain?! Two world-leading experts break this study down and reveal how AI and ChatGPT could silently shrink your brain, kill creativity, and wreck your memory.

    They discuss:
    • The evolutionary reason why ChatGPT is dangerous for your brain
    • How ChatGPT trains your brain to avoid discomfort, and why that’s dangerous
    • How using AI too early in life may block emotional growth and resilience
    • The surprising reason AI might make you more anxious, not less
    • Why brain reserve is your greatest defense against future decline
    • The hidden mental cost of seeking “perfect” partners through robotics and artificial intimacy
    • What you can do right now to protect your brain health in an AI-saturated world
    00:00 Intro
    02:36 Terry's Background
    03:18 Daniel Amen Introduction
    04:19 MIT Study: ChatGPT and Reduced Brain Function
    07:25 The Link Between ChatGPT and Dementia
    10:52 Biggest AI Concerns Before Understanding Long-Term Consequences
    19:32 What Does a Healthy Relationship with AI Look Like?
    22:53 AI and Early Brain Development
    25:26 AI Girlfriends
    35:21 Why Struggle Is Good for Your Brain
    37:07 Biggest Concerns with AI
    40:09 ChatGPT Best Practices
    44:50 Do We Still Need to Spell?
    46:36 How Can We Learn Better?
    48:16 How to Avoid Procrastination
    51:56 Ads
    53:58 Boosting Brain Health Without AI
    57:41 Are We Raising Mentally Weak Kids?
    58:30 Effects of Religion on the Brain
    01:01:27 How to Build a Brain-Healthy Nation
    01:03:38 Things That Are Bad for Your Brain
    01:07:08 Artificial Sweeteners
    01:08:50 Is Loud Noise Bad for Your Brain?
    01:10:03 Ads
    01:10:54 Multitasking
    01:12:43 What’s Causing the Rise in ADHD?
    01:15:50 Negativity in the Brain
    01:18:14 The Top Tip for a Healthier Brain
    01:20:51 Importance of Sleep for Brain Health
    01:26:42 Are You Prepared for Your Next Health Challenge?

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    Bernhard Guenther: Psycho-spiritual Development For The Conspiratorial Mind

    SNIPPET: AI, Humans and the “Soul” Debate Nobody Is Talking About

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    In this episode, Bernhard Guenther shares his extensive insights into the deeper architecture of reality, the influence of hyperdimensional forces, and the importance of inner work in navigating the spiritual and unseen realms. We explore the spiritual battle beyond the material layer, the role of shadow work, and the impact of unseen entities on human consciousness. Bernhard Guenther and Greg Carlwood explore the depths of spiritual warfare, the influence of dark entities, and the importance of inner work in navigating the current spiritual and societal upheavals. This episode offers insights into hyperdimensional forces, the true nature of evil, and how to align with divine will for personal and collective transformation.

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    The following belongs on this thread too:
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    What is "Agency"?
    July 5, 2026
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    https://theethicalskeptic.com/2026/0...hat-is-agency/


    "The Age of Artificial Intelligence compels a redefinition of agency from the traditional notion of capacity for independent action to the modern reality of participation within reflexive intelligence networks. Agency is no longer simply what an individual can accomplish alone. The individual is compensated with agency through network participation, while the network amplifies that agency beyond the capability of any single actor.

    An abstract representation of a network of people connected by glowing lines, with one person at the center.
    Agency has traditionally been defined as the capacity of an individual to intentionally act in the world according to their own will, making choices, and holding the capability to produce desired outcomes despite external constraints. Under this philosophical construct, a person possessing agency is regarded as the “author of their own actions.” Historically, this popular social conception of agency has revolved around four fundamental defining elements:

    Intent – What do I seek to accomplish?
    Choice – Am I free to select among available alternatives?
    Capability – Do I possess the means, knowledge, and competence to act?
    Responsibility – Am I the causal origin of the action?

    In the pre-AI era, agency was largely a function of intent enabled through capability. An individual’s or institution’s ability to translate purpose into action depended primarily upon what they sought to accomplish and the means available to them. In the age of AI, however, agency becomes fundamentally reflexive. Every exercise of intelligence simultaneously generates information about itself, creating a continuous feedback loop between actor and observer. Effective agency is therefore no longer determined solely by intent and capability, but by the interaction between (1) intent and capability, (2) the ability of others to infer that intent and capability from accumulated behavioral traces, and (3) one’s own ability to accurately perceive and regulate one’s true motivations, assumptions, and operational footprint.

    Traditionally:

    Agency = “I act.”

    Our new formulation is closer to:

    Agency = “I function as a node within larger networks whose influence I may neither fully perceive nor fully control. I derive personal potency from their power.”

    Agency, in effect, transforms from being a property of the individual node to becoming a property of the network. In doing so, agency undergoes an ontological shift. It no longer resides principally within the individual, but emerges through the individual’s participation in a larger reflexive intelligence or club architecture. The individual inherits power by actively aligning with the objectives of the network, exchanging a measure of autonomy for the amplified capability and influence that the collective confers. The individual is compensated with agency through participation, while the network amplifies that agency beyond the capability of any single actor. Note how this is analogous to the concept of loosh as a currency.

    This is an extraordinary shift.

    The Recursive Ecology of Agency and Artificial Intelligence

    AI thus transforms agency from a one-way expression of will into a dynamic process of inference, self-awareness, and adaptation, in which productive and extractive actors alike are amplified while becoming increasingly observable — to others and, potentially, to themselves.

    Historically, agency has been understood primarily at the personal level as the capacity to intentionally translate purpose into action. In its simplest form, this relationship can be expressed as:

    Impact (agency) ≈ Intent × Capability

    In the Age of AI, however, agency becomes fundamentally reflexive. It is no longer determined solely by an actor’s intent and capability, but also by the continuous interplay between self-perception, external inference, and situational awareness.

    Perhaps the most visible societal example is the transition from one-to-many messaging toward AI-assisted microtargeting and synthetic media. Campaigns and influence operations can rapidly generate tailored content for different audiences while AI simultaneously measures reactions and refines subsequent messaging, creating a reflexive feedback loop between message, audience, and strategy. Increasingly, social media platforms learn what captures our attention and then give us more of it.

    Over time, we are exposed to fewer ideas that genuinely challenge our thinking and far more that reinforce it. The result is not merely an echo chamber, but what might more aptly be termed a thunder chamber — an environment in which selected narratives are continuously amplified until they begin to feel like independent thought. Participants gradually come to believe that “consensus” shares their views, when in reality they are often experiencing a carefully curated representation of the world rather than the world itself. They have not changed the world, the network has changed them.

    A generalized expression for Effective Agency may therefore be represented as:

    Agency = Intent × Capability × Self-Awareness Deficit x Ability to Observe Others and Adversaries / Observability by Others and Adversaries​

    where:

    Intent × Capability represents the traditional foundation of agency.

    Ability to Observe Others and Adversaries reflects an actor’s capacity to understand the environment in which they operate.

    Observability by Others and Adversaries represents the extent to which one’s intentions, capabilities, and operational patterns can be inferred (intelligence definition of agency) by external actors.

    Self-Awareness Deficit represents the gap between an actor’s perceived motivations, assumptions, and operational footprint and their actual behavior. As this deficit approaches zero, effective agency increases.

    Accordingly, AI is likely to reorganize agency at a societal level into two dominant philoeconomic orientations. The historical precedent is familiar: political systems have repeatedly evolved toward bifurcated (meaning “two party” – even if only one power influence exists in reality) coalitions that aggregate capability, information, and influence around shared interests and common objectives. As AI becomes the primary engine of information, and monetary systems undergo a parallel digital transformation, these two infrastructures will increasingly converge. AI will therefore tend to serve the philoeconomic objectives of those who employ it, organizing capability around the competing aims of Productivity and Extraction.

    Shoshana Zuboff, in her work, The Age of Surveillance Capitalism defines surveillance capitalism as “the unilateral claiming of private human experience as free raw material for translation into behavioral data.” 1 Essentially, this form of human capital is exploited to empower these two competing agencies in the process of monitoring and redirecting our individual will.

    This evolution underscores the necessity of ethical skepticism. As agency becomes increasingly reflexive, the disciplined suspension of judgment becomes not merely an intellectual virtue, but a prerequisite for preserving independent agency itself.

    The default result is the emergence of two broad classes of agency (with a small ‘a’ – the Meta-Extractive Actor below featuring a capital ‘A’). The Productive Class encompasses those whose primary orientation is the creation of value through labor, entrepreneurship, engineering, education, medicine, defense, science, and the arts. The Extractive Class encompasses those whose primary orientation is the acquisition or control of value through governance, regulatory capture, cronyism, organized crime, financial manipulation, enterprise virtue, and black markets — often forming pragmatic alliances under the enduring maxim, “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” As these philoeconomic classes accumulate increasingly sophisticated AI capabilities, the agency of the individual — in the traditional philosophical sense — becomes progressively subordinate to the agency of the collective systems within which that individual operates.

    A diagram representing agency in artificial intelligence, highlighting two types: Productive Agency AI, which creates value through various fields, and Extractive Agency AI, which captures value through manipulative means. The graphic emphasizes the philosophical tension between these two types.

    The Meta-Extractive Actor (The Ultimate Extractor)



    A hidden strategic actor need not seek victory for either the Productive or Extractive Class. Rather, it seeks to maximize influence over the relationship between them. Its objective is not participation within the system, but the ability to shape the system itself. Conceptually, such influence may be exercised through several mechanisms:

    Amplifying Polarization — By emphasizing the most extreme representatives of each philoeconomic class, the actor encourages both sides to perceive the other as an existential threat, thereby reducing trust, cooperation, and the possibility of independent alignment.

    Creating Dependency — If both productive and extractive actors become dependent upon infrastructure controlled by the intermediary—whether technical, financial, informational, or institutional—the intermediary’s leverage increases irrespective of which class expands or contracts.

    Controlling the Frame — The greatest source of influence lies not in assigning specific labels, but in controlling the authority to define them. By establishing itself as the principal arbiter of what constitutes legitimacy, extremism, justice, intolerance, truth, misinformation, science, or disinformation, the intermediary gains disproportionate influence over reputation, incentives, and access.

    Harvesting Information and Value Asymmetrically — When interactions between both philoeconomic classes pass through common informational, financial, or technological platforms, the intermediary acquires a richer understanding of the entire system than any individual participant possesses. That informational asymmetry itself becomes a durable strategic asset from which both intelligence and economic value may be extracted.

    Two governing principles emerge from this framework, both working to the advantage of the Meta-Extractive Actor:

    Power accrues to whoever possesses the authority to define the categories by which others are judged.
    Its objective is not participation within the system, but the ability to shape the system itself.

    Artificial intelligence becomes the working mechanism through which this higher-order agency is exercised. It provides the means not merely to influence political discourse, but to observe, model, predict, and ultimately shape the reflexive interactions between the Productive and Extractive Classes. AI thus becomes the modern instrument through which a Meta-Extractive Actor may derive leverage — not simply by exploiting political polarization, but by extracting informational, economic, and strategic value from the interactions of the entire system.

    In this sense, the traditional political sacrifice to the gods evolves into something considerably more powerful: a reflexive tithe upon intelligence itself. Rather than exploiting only political will, the Meta-Extractive Actor acquires the capacity to influence the flow of information, capital, reputation, opportunity, and ultimately the life trajectories of those who become participants within the system.

    It is precisely this evolution that elevates ethical skepticism from an intellectual discipline to an operational necessity. It is the operative stance which is fundamental to why we were the first to detect Covid mRNA-vaccine-induced cancer and non-Covid natural cause excess mortality. As agency becomes increasingly reflexive, the disciplined suspension of judgment, continual testing of assumptions, and conscious resistance to inherited narratives become the means by which independent agency is preserved. In the Age of Artificial Intelligence, ethical
    skepticism is no longer merely the foundation of sound inquiry — it is the final refuge of authentic agency
    ."

    “What is Agency?”; The Ethical Skeptic, WordPress, 5 Jul 2026; Web, https://theethicalskeptic.com/?p=117650

    Zuboff, Shoshana. The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power. New York: PublicAffairs, 2019: Shoshana Zuboff defines surveillance capitalism as “the unilateral claiming of private human experience as free raw material for translation into behavioral data.” She argues that these data are transformed into prediction products and ultimately used to shape future behavior through what she terms instrumentarian power. While Zuboff’s work focuses primarily upon the extraction and behavioral modification of individuals, the present work extends this framework by proposing that AI precipitates an ontological migration of agency itself — from an attribute of autonomous individuals to an emergent property of reflexive intelligence
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