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    What Denmark Just Did to Islamism Changes Everything
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    "The hardest crackdown on political Islam in Europe wasn't launched by the far right. It was launched by socialists.

    Not by nationalists waving flags. Not by a populist strongman. By the Danish Social Democrats — a party of the left, the party of the welfare state, cradle-to-grave healthcare and generous benefits and everything progressive Europe was supposed to stand for. That party just built the toughest assimilation regime on the continent, aimed squarely at parallel Islamic societies inside its borders. And it didn't lose power for doing it. It got stronger.

    That is the thing that changes everything. For twenty years, the entire European debate rested on one assumption — that confronting political Islam was the exclusive business of the anti-immigrant right, and that any mainstream party that tried it would be branded racist and destroyed. Denmark just proved that assumption dead wrong. And once that assumption falls, nothing about European politics stays the same.

    To understand why this changes everything, you have to go back to what Denmark used to be."

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    The above is obviously not from a particularly credible looking source, but a search will reveal a number of articles and videos about an ongoing process in Denmark whereby the government has been attempting to impose requirements on the Islamic immigrant community there which would help to reeducate and integrate them more into Danish society, and limit their customary Islamic practices more.
    It's not just in Denmark such attempts are being made; it's ongoing in various countries.
    It obviously differs from more drastic tactics being adopted in the US, where immigrants are being involuntarily returned to their countries of origin, and it will be interesting to see if and how the less stringent policies work.
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    Some may dismiss my perspective as unrelated to what is happening in Denmark, but I believe these issues are connected and part of a wider pattern. Rather than simply agreeing or disagreeing with the video, I can see both sides of the issue. Every country has the right to expect newcomers to respect its laws and participate in society. However, I find the hatred that often accompanies these discussions just as concerning as the immigration issues themselves.

    We recently experienced something similar with our 11-year-old grandson. Under the theme Australia – The Lucky Country, his class was given a book about Afghan refugees that, in our view, relied more on cultural stereotypes than encouraging empathy or explaining the realities of war and displacement. We used it as an opportunity to discuss the broader context of war, the refugee experience, and the rise of Islamophobia. When we raised our concerns with the school, we were told the material was part of the mandated curriculum.

    Reading through the comments on that YouTube video, I see very little distinction being made between discussing integration policies and expressing hostility toward Muslims as a whole. That, to me, is part of the problem. It's one thing to debate immigration policy; it's another to encourage fear or resentment toward an entire religion or ethnic group.

    If you have children or grandchildren, now is a good time to help them think critically about these issues. They need to understand not only the importance of social cohesion, but also the human realities behind why people become refugees in the first place.

    The moment that really struck us came after asking our grandson what hardships the book had taught him these people had faced. We then asked, "So... what happened to them in the end?" His reply was simply, "Oh... they sent them back."

    That answer opened the door to a much broader discussion. We explained that only about thirty minutes from where we live in Australia there is a munitions factory that manufactures artillery shells. We talked about how wars create displacement, how refugees don't simply appear out of nowhere, and how conflicts around the world are connected to decisions made by governments and industries far beyond the battlefield.

    We also spoke about propaganda and how every society has the capacity to shape the beliefs of its young people. Personally, I see parallels between the way children can be conditioned to view "the other" and what we have seen reported about the way many young Israelis are raised within the broader conflict. Whether people agree with that comparison or not, it is something that concerns me deeply. I don't want our grandson growing up to fear entire groups of people because of their religion or ethnicity.

    These are conclusions my wife and I have reached through our own experiences. Others may see things differently, and that's their right. But for us, this issue is far bigger than immigration alone. It is about how fear is cultivated, how societies educate the next generation, and whether we choose empathy over division.

    The warning is clear, yet we continue to fuel the very wars that create the displacement, fear, and division we later argue about. It becomes a self-perpetuating cycle—one that ensures the suffering continues.

    I feel exactly the same way about the phrase "China Problem." To me, it follows a similar pattern: a complicated geopolitical issue becomes simplified into a label that can encourage fear and division rather than understanding. This resonates well with how words have lost thier meaning in a recent astological blog post I recently read.

    "When The Bough Breaks"

    Now I feel as confused as my grandson.

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    The world today may be a very different place if the indigenous inhabitants of the North American continent had been able to stop the immigration of Europeans to their land, without them having any say in the matter ... when they tried to protect their land from the intruders, they were genocided.

    Rampant immigration, legal and illegal, is always a problem for a country on many levels, but the conversation about immigration is always highly racist and xenophobic. I find it frightening.

    In my country, we have just had an explosion of xenophobic violence and there is an ongoing campaign against the probably thousands still crossing the border illegally every day. It is not about race, religion or culture. My country has tens of millions trapped in poverty but nonetheless does have a thriving economy, strong middle class and a significant group of the very wealthy. It is the poor and desperate who flock to the country, and it is the millions of poor who see them as a threat. That is understandable. My country has many people who are skilled and experienced in projects to uplift poor communities, so my solution to the problem is to send those people to those countries, perhaps partner with a country like China, and help those people thrive at home, while we continue working on lifting millions of our own citizens out of the trap of poverty. By the way, China has very strict immigration regulations, but, contrary to what Trump says, the US is one of almost three dozen in the world who have much more if an open door policy. America is a country off illegal immigrants, snd the problem for Americans it seems is that they are ok with immigration continuing but only for white people.

    Why are Westerners retreating into cocoons of racism, Islamophobia, etc.? It is ugly and supports the incredible violence that the West inflicts on so many people around the world, Iran being the latest target. Why do you insist on shoving your religion and your culture and your values on the world, but are so closed-minded about other religions and cultures? The world is a very diverse place in all ways. Surely as a human being you were designed to be in a diverse world and not shut yourself up in a fortress and be belligerent and destructive to all that are not like you? Have you considered what in your culture and values a Muslim, for example, may find strange and unacceptable? And what is it about Muslims and other foreigners that you find so repulsive? Grooming gangs from Pakistan? But you are ok with the Epstein class (and there are many) being in the highest level of government and among the very wealthy?

    Ultimately, people individually and as a group have the right to choose what their beliefs are and what they value, so you can choose to live in your cocoon (North Korea, North Sentinel Island), but stay in your fortress then and stop the interfering and killing and sanctioning and torture of people in other countries. Would you be able to accept that compromise? As for the 'foreigners' in your country that you do not want, send them home, but do not be like Uganda and at least give them a 'starter pack' to give them a chance in their home countries, which have often been destroyed by you.
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    Quote Posted by sdv (here)
    the conversation about immigration is always highly racist and xenophobic. I find it frightening.


    Americans it seems is that they are ok with immigration continuing but only for white people.
    I find it both fascinating and frightening that these two comments could be made in the same post.

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    I think the nation state has a better chance of delivering for its inhabitants than Globalism, therefore it requires a border and for that border to be policed.
    That isn't a left or right position, we are said to be a nation state and a Democracy, so require a border and for the number of people incoming to be subject to the will of the people,
    I don't want roided up ICE agents intimidating immigrants, I want a rather boring civil servant, who knows and can apply the regulations, impartially without enjoying the power he has over them.
    The real extremists are those who imposed a radical and unwarranted flood of people, on a reluctant Electorate, and then screamed Racist at them, when they rightly complained.
    I would imagine most people on this forum know, that the middle eastern Muslim peoples, have suffered immensely after being fitted up, for 911, even if you believe the regime's claims about the perpetrators of the terrorist attacks on the west, we have inflicted far more damage on them than they have on us.

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    We all make contradictions, yet truth can still live within them. It is usually fear that makes us react to the inconsistencies we find most challenging. Such is how I like to observe when faced with such inconsistencies: colonial history has not quite ended, although now faltering. More to the point, it is one of the few facts in history that is well recorded. As such, in its final stages, it still shapes these discussions more than we care to admit.

    If I may share, although I have seen it a few times already, it popped up on my radar last night. I could not help but think how significant that message was back then, but moreover just how meaningful it is for us all today.

    David Icke-The End of The Schism,Moving To Consciousness From Mind, Letting Go of fear....
    One of his best!

    I wish it were not so, but whatever boundaries we find ourselves pressed against, I wish us all the best.

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    Quote Posted by sdv (here)
    the conversation about immigration is always highly racist and xenophobic. I find it frightening.


    Americans it seems is that they are ok with immigration continuing but only for white people.
    I find it both fascinating and frightening that these two comments could be made in the same post.
    Perhaps you could explain your sarcastic calling me out on a post I made? Attacking me, and basically calling me stupid. I could learn something from you?

    And for how long have you been a human? Complexity and contradiction are a part of reality, and in any situation, we choose a basic for action. There is an expression used by one group of people in my country, which translates as 'Yes, No', with no further explanation. If you do not intuitively understand that in its complexity, then you and I will never understand each other.
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    Quote Posted by sdv (here)
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    Quote Posted by sdv (here)
    the conversation about immigration is always highly racist and xenophobic. I find it frightening.


    Americans it seems is that they are ok with immigration continuing but only for white people.
    I find it both fascinating and frightening that these two comments could be made in the same post.
    Perhaps you could explain your sarcastic calling me out on a post I made? Attacking me, and basically calling me stupid. I could learn something from you?

    And for how long have you been a human? Complexity and contradiction are a part of reality, and in any situation, we choose a basic for action. There is an expression used by one group of people in my country, which translates as 'Yes, No', with no further explanation. If you do not intuitively understand that in its complexity, then you and I will never understand each other.
    Let me clarify, I am not suggesting you lack intelligence; on the contrary, I find your posts intelligent and well written. When I see that you have made a post, I usually make it a point to read what you have written. Even though we don't see eye to eye on many issues, I am curious as to what you have to say.

    When I saw your comment, I noted that you began by stating that discussions about immigration are “always racist,” and later in the same post, you made a generalized statement that can only be interpreted as racist. I felt it was important to address this inconsistency. If that statement had been supported by facts and evidence, it might have been a valid point. Without supporting information, it comes across as just another inflammatory, racially biased, highly charged remark often seen online. While I find your posts insightful, I also notice that you tend to express yourself with a great deal of emotion, often anger or hostility, particularly towards Trump, the United States, or Israel. I believe that emotion can be a powerful tool when accompanied by factual support, but when you make a general statement with absolutely nothing to back it up...................................

    My comment was never meant to anger you. You can have the last word, I am not going to comment on this again.
    Regards


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    "Let's call a spade a spade"

    Shocking BC crime: Media won’t report on “visible minorities or immigrants committing crimes”


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    It is not the right but the left in Denmark leading the charge against immigration. The Social Democrats (Socialdemokratiet), led by Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen, have adopted a hardline stance against immigration and asylum seekers primarily to protect the Danish welfare state and retain working-class voters. Denmark is leading the way on how the world sees and thinks about immigration.

    There are some hard truths about immigration and refugee status, and they include the fact that non-Western immigrants are the core cause of systemic integration failures, economic burdens, cultural clashes and a significant increase in crime. Many non-Western immigrants, particularly Muslims, struggle with assimilation, leading to “all” immigrants being viewed as incompatible with the host country's norms and values. There is no question that much of the immigration has turned out to be a misplaced attempt at humanitarianism. This miscalculation has made it extremely easy for immigrants to abuse the system. The Somali abuse scandal in the state of Minnesota is the perfect example, where the amount of money bilked from American taxpayers could prove to be as high as $9 billion.

    Denmark has drastically reduced refugees and immigrants to protect its generous welfare system. This is driven by a political consensus that fewer foreigners are necessary for the system's sustainability.  The current Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen and the majority of the government have shifted their official goal to achieving "zero asylum-seekers," arguing that limiting non-Western immigrants prevents the gang violence, overall crime, and integration failures seen in neighboring countries. 

    Denmark's study on immigration, welfare and crime concludes:

    Denmark’s official government reports and academic studies indicate that while Western immigrants have a small positive or neutral net financial contribution, non-Western immigrants and their descendants have a net negative fiscal impact and are overrepresented in violent crime convictions. 

    Welfare, Crime and Fiscal Impact Core Findings:
    • In 2018, immigrants and their descendants had a net negative financial contribution of -24 billion DKK to public finances, compared to +41 billion DKK for native Danes. 
    • Western immigrants (and their descendants) showed a small positive net contribution, whereas non-Western groups (including MENAPT ( Middle East, North Africa, Pakistan, and Turkey) origins) showed a significant net negative contribution. 
    • Adjusting for age, which skews younger among immigrants, reduces the positive estimates for Western groups and deepens the negative estimates for non-Western groups.
    • Crime Statistics:
    • Immigrants and their descendants constitute 14% of the population but accounted for 29% of violent crime convictions in 2021, resulting in conviction rates 2.5 times higher than natives. 
    • Western immigrants had conviction rates ~20% lower than natives, while non-Western immigrants had rates ~3.5 times higher. 
    • Homicide and rape convictions showed even stronger disparities among non-Western groups. 
    • Welfare Cuts: A 2014 reform reducing cash transfers for refugees led to short-term employment increases but long-term adverse effects, including higher crime rates (5-12 percentage point increase in first five years), lower educational attainment, and reduced labor earnings for children. 
    • Research notes that welfare anxiety and economic threats are primary drivers of anti-immigration policy in Denmark, often outweighing concerns about personal safety

    Sweden, Norway, Finland, Germany and the United States have all significantly tightened their immigration policies since 2024-2025, resulting in a sharp decline in asylum applications and permanent residency grants. These shifts mark a departure from their historically liberal stances, driven by concerns over integration, welfare sustainability, and crime. Most European countries are now challenged to follow suit. After years of bogus studies showing immigration and refugees have no impact on crime or social welfare, the truth is beginning to emerge.

    Populations are no longer accepting of illegal immigration. Even though the USA has drastically cut off illegal immigration, it still maintains the highest absolute volume of legal immigration globally. By comparison, Germany, the country with the second-highest immigrant stock, typically sees annual net migration or new residency grants in the range of 400,000 to 600,000, far below U.S. figures even in a restrictive year. Countries should focus on legal immigration and stop granting asylum to anyone that asks. Immigration benefits everyone but it must be done legally.

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    Multiculturalism and Rape
    Published on July 15, 2026
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    ( I applaud Dr. Sircus for having the sensibility that so many men lack when it comes to understanding just how destructive rape is to the feminine psyche.
    Islam has long been incredibly oppressive when it comes to the wellbeing of women and girls, and discussions about the problems of immigration which often don't even mention the catastrophic increase in rapes or the impact it has, show just how true that still is.
    It's even more shocking to see how much compliance has been granted to such behavior in countries that are supposedly much more enlightened.
    As though bringing that same kind of anti-feminine violence is a fair price to pay in the "movement" to justify the mostly undeclared massive, unchecked immigration policies that have come about, obstensibly in order partly to overcome racism via immigration/integration.
    When what it often seems like what is actually happening is not integration at all, but a clandestine global movement for the erasure of values which embrace the feminine rather than revile it. )

    "While language has often been used as a means of control, it can also be an effective weapon of destruction. Teach people to be timid and passive. Convince them that being weak and submissive is a virtue. Once you have achieved that, the people will not resist as their culture, their families, and their nation are torn down around them. Western civilization has mastered the art of self-destruction, and most politicians are in on it.

    The hard reality is that the “multicultural” experiment in the West is not a melting pot; it is a slaughterhouse for the feminine principle. We have moved beyond the point where “tolerance” is a virtue. When a society tolerates the systematic destruction of its own women and children, that society has lost its will to survive and perhaps deserves to be destroyed. But in the meantime, there is no doubt. Western politicians are the scum of the earth. They are complicit in rape and the invasion of their countries by hordes of people who have no intention of integrating with Western culture, morals, or even laws.

    The Rape of the West: When “Tolerance” Becomes Complicity

    According to official federal government data, 53% of all gangrape suspects in Germany in 2025 were foreign nationals, even though they are a small minority. In a country where foreigners represent a fraction of the population, this is not just a crime wave—it is a demographic invasion of the most brutal kind. 751 victims were gangraped in Germany last year alone. The 2025 German data is not a “statistical outlier.” It is a final, screaming indictment of an entire civilization’s surrender. 80% of the victims were German citizens.

    And yet, when Alice Weidel of the AfD stood in the Bundestag to expose how migrant gangs are driving underage German girls into drug addiction and prostitution, she was met with laughter from the legacy political class. They laughed at the subjugation of their own daughters. They laughed at the destruction of their own safety. Let’s see if they laugh when their souls are hung out to dry.

    This is the “suicidal empathy” we have been warning about, and the Pope and the Royal Family of England are the West’s biggest betrayers in this regard. How did we get here? It is the result of a deliberate, multi-decade abandonment of the feminine principle.

    Ideology Over Innocence: In towns across England—Rotherham, Telford, Rochdale—police and social workers watched for years as Pakistani and Afghan rape gangs treated underage British girls like property. They didn’t intervene because they were terrified of being called “racist.” They chose the safety of an ideology over the safety of the children.
    The Sanitized Narrative: The media routinely hides the identity of the perpetrators by using terms like “youth gangs” or “men with migration backgrounds.” They hide the truth because the truth contradicts the “multicultural” religion they have forced upon the West.
    The Normalization of Barbarism: From Sweden (now the “rape capital of Europe”) to the streets of England, we have imported cultures that do not just tolerate the subjugation of women—they codify it. In these cultures, women are “captives of the right hand,” and infidel women are viewed as fair game.

    Medical View
    We have to be clinical about this. Rape victims face hell on earth, with nonstop medical and psychological suffering. Rape is not just an emotional event; it is a profound, systemic shock to the basement of human physiology. The trauma forces the autonomic nervous system into a permanent state of “fight or flight,” locking the victim into a guarded, shallow breathing pattern that causes systemic CO₂ depletion. This CO₂ deficiency triggers chronic vasoconstriction and cellular hypoxia, effectively starving the brain and tissues of the oxygen needed for healing.

    Modern medicine exacerbates this “stolen self” by prescribing chemical mufflers—benzodiazepines and SSRIs—that further depress mitochondrial energy and mask the physical reality of the trauma. To restore a survivor, we must abandon the “mental health” label somewhat and prioritize terrain restoration: saturating the body with magnesium to reset the nervous system, normalizing CO₂ to unlock oxygen delivery, and using bicarbonates to neutralize the metabolic acid load of trauma. We don’t just counsel the mind; we rebuild the biological vessel so the soul can finally feel safe enough to return.

    Big Mistake
    When you import millions of men from cultures that view women as “cows, sheep, or horses,” you are not “enriching” your society. You are importing a predator class. As I have written, “way too many men are beasts.” This is a universal human problem, but it is being amplified by a religious and cultural indoctrination that gives these beasts divine sanction. When a man believes that his religion grants him the right to dominate, enslave, and abuse women and young girls, he is no longer a citizen; he is a predator.

    The West’s Death Wish
    Gad Saad has been shouting this for years: When you start crying harder for the criminal than for their victim, your civilization has a death wish. We have been so busy being “nice,” so busy being “tolerant,” and so busy apologizing for our own existence that we have forgotten the most basic requirement of any civilization: the protection of women and children.

    It is important to remember that there is also chemical rape and even chemical gangrape, as is the case when pediatricians hold down a baby and give from five to nine vaccines at the same time. Sometimes, the biggest mistake a parent can make is letting something like that be done to their children. Too many end up dead, but it’s never the vaccine’s fault.

    The Insurgent’s Path
    The time for “tolerance” is over. Tolerance is a betrayal of women, and those who demand it are complicit in the rape.

    Protect the Feminine Principle: The defense of women is not a “political position.” It is the biological and spiritual bedrock of our race. Every man who claims to be a man must be prepared to use force to defend the women and children of his civilization.

    End the Multicultural Myth: We must be ruthless. Deport the non-assimilators. Ban the Sharia enclaves. Stop the “migrant waves” that are being used as a weapon to destabilize our lands.
    Recognize the Enemy: The enemy is not just the predator in the street; it is the politician who laughs when the rape statistics are read aloud. It is the media executive who buries the truth. These are the collaborators in the “War on Women.” In England, even the police were in on it.
    It is time to stop apologizing. We are living in a time of monsters. The only way to survive the monsters is to be fiercer, braver, and more ruthless in our love and protection than they are in their hatred and predation.

    Dr.Sircus is a reader-supported publication. "

    Much more here: https://drsircus.com/?s=protect+women+and+girls
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