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    I've been taking Borax for about 10 years, mainly to prevent arthritis & de -calcify my pineal. All good so far, as far as I can tell.
    My supply, which lasted years, has just run out and I can't find where I got it from or any other supplier .
    Does anyone know where to buy some in the U.K. ?
    Thanks Paul.
    Ouch - I've been hoarding the last of my beloved Boraxo hand soap (a combination of Borax and soap), wishing I had stocked up before it was discontinued.

    Now it looks like I'm in the same predicament with Borax (just plain Sodium Tetraborate Decahydrate). No, you can't have my last box .

    However, searching for Sodium Tetraborate Decahydrate, I see various chemical supply houses selling it, so I'll look there when I run out.
    Here ya go — this is 100% pure medical grade, and I've been taking exactly this for years.

    https://www.amazon.com/Prescribed-Li.../dp/B00QK4LUD6

    Alternatively, here's the Prescribed for Life web page, where there are several slightly different versions for sale and much more information:

    https://prescribedforlife.com/search?q=borax

    @Paul D, I checked amazon.co.uk, and they don't have it. But amazon.com should be able to deliver this to the UK for a small amount of extra shipping. That 1 lb bag will last a long time. (I fill size 00 gelatin capsules and take one every 2 days. )
    @Mr Cow , Thanks, I found some industrial places that will sell 25 kg , it's an option but 25 kg would last me this life & a few to come, too much really, unless I become a black market dealer in it .😀😇

    @Bill, Thanks Bill, that's really helpful.
    Unfortunately amazon.com won't deliver to the U.K.
    Prescribed for Life seem to have excellent stuff, that is sold with a mind to ingestion for all the good uses. The price is great too at £15, but the shipping to U.K. is a minimum of £68 which is bit heavy so I'll keep on looking but knowing that it is there is great .

    Thanks everyone for a very positive start to my search 🙂👍

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    There are Boron tablets available very cheap if someone is so compelled to check on them. Through amazon.com Boron Complex 3mg tablet - 3oo count - $9.99 - recommends 2 tablets per dose [6mg].

    I am just more compelled to go with an actual tablet than with the other methods although they seem safe in small doses; well, I try to find other options.
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    There are Boron tablets available very cheap if someone is so compelled to check on them. Through amazon.com Boron Complex 3mg tablet - 3oo count - $9.99 - recommends 2 tablets per dose [6mg].

    I am just more compelled to go with an actual tablet than with the other methods although they seem safe in small doses; well, I try to find other options.

    Thanks Jack, I wasn't aware of this option.I had a quick look into the Borax or Boron thing .This site seems good , https://www.earthclinic.com/boron-vs-borax.html
    I'll probably buy some Boron, whilst I keep looking for Borax and study more on each protocol.
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    This is a very good resource on Borax/Boron
    https://www.earthclinic.com/mobile/remedies/borax.html

    Fortunately I did find a U.K. supplier of pure Borax. I've bought from them, as I have experience of using pure Borax.

    https://shop.hdchemicals.co.uk/colle...ate-borax-99-9

    Mission accomplished 🙂

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    Another fine article on boron, as an essential nutrient, from Substack.com. I will be increasing my personal dose of borax in my (richly remineralized) drinking water as a consequence of reading this paper.
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    A trace mineral, a regulatory straitjacket, and the calculation nobody was willing to publish — until now.

    Note: This is for educational purposes. This is not medical advice, and I am not telling you what you should do. Every person is or should be in control of their own health in spite of what the current medical establishment would like you to believe.

    Curious Note: Most vitamin and mineral recommended intakes are set to prevent deficiency, not to optimize health, performance, or longevity. This article addresses boron specifically, and what the research suggests about dosing for optimized human health, rather than for the mere absence of deficiency.


    Over the past year, I have spent at least 100 hours trying to build a comprehensive understanding of boron and its effects on human health and disease. The focus of that work has been on elemental boron as provided by borax, and the process has involved reading across a large and scattered literature that spans over 100 years of food science, nutrition, toxicology, endocrinology, bone biology, neurology, immunology, and cancer research.

    That research gradually came to feel less like reading isolated papers and more like assembling a complex puzzle. Piece by piece, the literature began to reveal a subtle but remarkable picture of boron’s far-reaching role in disease prevention, disease reversal, and the optimization of human physiology across multiple systems.

    As the data accumulated, a pattern became difficult to ignore. Again and again, papers described significant benefits in animal models at doses expressed in milligrams per kilogram, and again and again the human implication was left unstated. The final empty piece of the puzzle was now in front of me: the arithmetic. To my knowledge, the specific application of standard animal‑to‑human dose conversion to the beneficial boron doses reported in animal studies has not been laid out explicitly in the published nutrition and trace mineral literature. Using the standard animal‑to‑human conversion method on these beneficial boron doses, rather than only on toxicological thresholds, revealed something striking. Once that arithmetic was applied, it became hard to avoid the conclusion that nutrition scientists have been pointing toward something important for a very long time, but have been effectively straitjacketed and unable to say it directly because of the (UL) upper limit dose threshold placed on boron of 20 mg/day.

    The Sentence That Finally Opened My Eyes

    Buried in a peer-reviewed paper on boron’s important roles in biochemistry is a passage most readers would scroll past:

    “Administration of boron 5, 10, and 20 mg/kg/d reversed malathion-induced oxidative stress, lipid peroxidation, and suppression of antioxidant enzyme activity. Boron decreased malathion-induced oxidative stress, enhanced antioxidant defense mechanisms, and regenerated damaged liver, kidney, and brain tissues in rats.” [1, 2] Curious Note: malathion is a pesticide.

    If you read that quote and moved on, you missed something important. It is important because oxidative stress is one of the root mechanisms implicated in aging, neurodegeneration, kidney disease, and liver damage, and antioxidant enzyme activity — superoxide dismutase, catalase, glutathione peroxidase — is a foundational marker of how well the body defends its own tissue. Yet when readers encounter “5, 10, and 20 mg/kg/d” in boron papers, the dose is usually left as an animal number rather than translated into a human-equivalent intake. This type of language is prolific in the literature.

    That omission is not accidental. And understanding why it exists takes you into one of the more fascinating and consequential gaps in modern nutritional science.

    What Boron Actually Does

    Boron is not classified as an essential nutrient in humans. There is no Recommended Daily Allowance. There is no established deficiency disease with a name. Yet the research literature, accumulated over four decades, led largely by USDA researcher Dr. Forrest Nielsen and colleagues, paints a picture of a mineral with extraordinarily wide metabolic reach. Boron has been shown in animal and human studies to affect: [2]
    • Brain electrical activity and cognitive performance, including manual dexterity, attention, short-term memory, and long-term memory [2]
    • Bone formation, mineralization, and fracture healing [2]
    • The methylation cycle, specifically SAM-e (S-adenosylmethionine) production and homocysteine regulation [2]
    • Steroid hormone metabolism including testosterone, estradiol, and vitamin D activation [2, 3]
    • Immune function, T-cell populations, immunoglobulin production, and cytokine balance [2, 3]
    • Prostate cancer risk and PSA levels [2]
    • Lipid metabolism and cardiovascular risk markers [2]
    • Blood glucose regulation [2]
    • Wound healing and tissue repair [2]
    • Mitochondrial function, specifically uncoupling proteins that regulate thermogenesis and oxidative stress [2]
    This is not a short list. It spans virtually every major domain of human physiological optimization. And in every single case, the literature carefully reports the effective animal dose in milligrams per kilogram and then stops.

    Why The Scientists Can’t State What Is Obvious

    How is it that we’ve found over 5,000+ planets outside our solar system and we’ve sequenced the entire human genome in the last 25 years, yet we still can’t give boron the essential mineral status it likely deserves?

    To understand the significance of the weight-based dosages, you need to understand what prevents researchers from simply stating their implications outright.

    First, the regulatory status problem. Establishing essentiality requires proving that one specific enzyme or biochemical reaction depends entirely on a substance which is the equivalent of proving a single missing musician silences an entire orchestra. Orchestra’s do not work that way and neither does boron. It behaves more like a conductor subtly adjusting the tempo across every section of the orchestra at once. No instrument stops playing. No section goes silent. But take the conductor away, and the whole performance noticeably loses its precision. Boron’s actions are broad and pleiotropic. It modulates multiple pathways rather than serving a single defined function. Without essentiality status, no regulatory body will issue a formal recommended intake above minimal amounts. [2]

    Second, the GRAS (Generally Regarded As Safe) and UL problem. The established Tolerable Upper Intake Level (UL) for boron in adults is 20 mg/day, derived from reproductive toxicity studies in rats and rabbits. This regulatory ceiling prevents researchers from recommending or stating higher doses than 20 mg of elemental boron per day could be beneficial. Any researcher who formally recommends human doses near or above it, without controlled human clinical trial data, faces institutional and legal exposure. [4]

    Third, the funding problem. Boron cannot be patented. There is no pharmaceutical or commercial engine to fund the large-scale, dose-escalation human trials that would be required to formally establish higher optimal intakes. The research that does exist is largely government-funded and deliberately conservative in its clinical recommendations.

    So researchers do something elegant and, once you see it, it’s hard to miss: they publish the animal mg/kg data in full detail, embed it in papers targeted at human nutrition audiences, surround it with mechanistic human-relevance context (SAM-e depletion, homocysteine elevation, brain electrical activity, PSA suppression), and leave the conversion to the attentive reader.

    Dr. Nielsen spent a career doing exactly this. His repeated framing of boron as “of more practical nutritional importance than currently acknowledged” is the scientific literature’s equivalent of stating that which is obvious. Boron at higher amounts than the 20 mg per day UL could potentially optimize human health and prevent certain disease processes.[2]

    What Is an “Uncertainty Factor”?

    Before comparing the two ways of doing the math, it helps to understand one simple concept — the “uncertainty factor”: an uncertainty factor is basically a safety cushion. Scientists use it when they don’t know everything, so they build in extra room for error. [5]

    Here’s how it works. Researchers find the highest dose that causes no harm in animal studies. This is called the NOAEL (no-observed-adverse-effect level). But animals aren’t humans, and not all humans are the same. So instead of using that number directly, regulators shrink it down twice, just to be “extra careful”: [5, 6]
    • First cut: Divide by 10, because animals and humans can react differently to the same substance.
    • Second cut: Divide by 10 again, because some people (like pregnant women, older adults, or those with health conditions) may be more sensitive than others.
    That’s a combined shrink of 100 times smaller than the original safe animal dose. For boron specifically, researchers have used even bigger safety cushions in some studies — up to 247 times smaller than the original number, depending on which study they used. [6, 7]

    This is very different from the allometric (Km) scaling. Allometric scaling tries to answer the question: “What human dose would produce the same beneficial effect as this animal dose?” The uncertainty factor approach asks a completely different question: “How far below any risk can we stay, just to be safe?” [5, 8]

    The Arithmetic Nobody Published

    The FDA has a standard method for converting animal study doses to human equivalent doses (HEDs). It uses Body Surface Area (BSA) allometric scaling, based on species-specific Km factors: [9, 10, 11]

    The FDA Km factors are: Rat = 6, Mouse = 3, Human = 37. [9, 10, 11]

    The 20 mg/day ceiling wasn’t built using the same body-surface-area math this article uses to translate the beneficial animal doses. Regulators used a simpler, more conservative body-weight method on the no-harm dose, then divided by a safety factor of roughly 100. Nobody has ever run the beneficial animal doses through the FDA body-surface-area method which is the same one used to set starting doses for new drugs. Do that, and the human benefit equivalent lands at 9.6 to 113.5 mg/day depending on body system. [4]

    Here is what happens when you do the math using the FDA-scaled Human Equivalent Dose (HED) of 0.81 mg/kg/day

    For the cited animal effective dose 5 mg/kg BW/day, the dose that decreased malathion-induced oxidative stress, enhanced antioxidant defense mechanisms, and regenerated damaged liver, kidney, and brain tissues — the FDA-scaled Human Equivalent Dose (HED) for a 70 kg (154 lb) adult is 56.8 mg/day.

    The Full Table Across Body Systems
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    Now consider the reference points:
    • Average American dietary boron intake: ~1.0–1.35 mg/day [2]
    • Typical supplement dose recommended in most literature: 3–10 mg/day [2]
    • Established UL: 20 mg/day [4]
    • The human equivalent dose (HED) range — from the lowest tested dose that showed prostate benefit to the highest tested dose that showed improved wound healing and diabetes benefit — spans 9.6 to 113.5 mg/day. That is roughly 7 to 113 times what most Americans consume daily from food. It is roughly 1 to 38 times the typical supplementation dose seen in mainstream supplements and recommendations. And it ranges from about half the current UL to nearly 6 times higher than it.
    Across the nine body-weight-based animal studies reviewed here, the median human-equivalent effective dose is 51.1 mg/day (0.73 mg/kg/day) which is several multiples above the current 20 mg/day UL. It’s worth noting this figure blends different body systems and disease models, so it reflects a general pattern rather than one precise optimal dose. It’s also worth noting that the higher doses seen for diabetes and wound healing may relate to boron’s known chemical affinity for sugar molecules, which could mean these particular pathologies draw on a different, less efficient interaction than the lower-dose pathways above, a distinction worth keeping in mind if considering boron for these conditions specifically.

    The Structural Contradiction at the Heart of the Boron Literature

    There are two things to keep in mind, and together they reveal a contradiction the literature has never addressed directly.

    First, the dietary Upper Limit for boron is based on toxicity data from animal studies, in which the no-effect dose observed in rats was divided by a “uncertainty” safety factor of roughly 100. In other words, the human “uncertainty” safety limit was deliberately set at about 1/100th of the dose that caused no harm in those animal studies — not even remotely close to any level where actual harm was observed.

    Second, run that same conversion on the animal doses that actually produced benefits, and the human equivalent lands at around 10 to 113 mg/day, depending on the body system. Most of these fall well above the 20 mg/day ceiling — a number set roughly 100 times lower than the dose that caused no harm at all in animals. The UL sits below the human-equivalent effective dose for 8 of the 9 body systems analyzed above.

    No one has published this calculation in over five decades. It isn’t complicated. It just hasn’t been done, and it’s worth asking why. I’ll let you answer that question for yourself. My opinion is that no one had the intestinal fortitude to risk their career calling out the misuse of toxicology on an important, and possibly essential, trace nutrient.

    This is not a conspiracy. It is an institutional architecture comprised of a combination of regulatory classification, funding gaps, liability concerns, and the slow inertia of nutritional science that has produced a systematic blind spot. The researchers working closest to this data know what it implies. The mg/kg figures are in every paper. The math simply hasn’t been done in public.

    A novel drug entering human trials for the first time, with a genuinely unknown risk profile, typically gets a 10-fold safety margin. Boron, a mineral humans have consumed for the entire breadth of human history, was buried under a safety margin up to 25 times larger. The drug we understand less gets treated with more trust than the mineral we’ve been eating for millennia.

    What Would Real Research Look Like?

    To answer the questions this literature raises but cannot ask out loud, the field would need:
    1. Human dose-escalation trials measuring immune markers, prostate-specific antigen, glucose regulation, wound-healing rates, and oxidative stress biomarkers at 10, 20, 30, 40, 50, and 60+ mg/day in controlled conditions
    2. Body-weight-stratified analyses — no published human boron trial has ever examined whether a 120 kg individual responds differently than a 55 kg individual, despite this being the most basic pharmacological question
    3. Pharmacokinetic studies comparing boron tissue distribution and metabolic rate between humans and rodents at equivalent mg/kg doses
    4. Long-term safety data at 20–60 mg/day in adults without reproductive endpoints — the UL is based on reproductive toxicity, not general adult toxicity, yet it is applied universally
    The Bottom Line

    The boron literature, read carefully, is making a consistent argument through the language of animal dose data. Every time a paper reports that a given number in mg/kg normalizes some critical physiological parameter in a rat, and then discusses its human relevance without performing the scaling calculation, it is extending an invitation to the reader to do the math.

    When you do the math, using the FDA’s own methodology, the picture that emerges is this:

    Most people in the Western world are consuming boron at just 2 to 3 percent of the typical dose associated with measurable physiological benefit across immune regulation, prostate health, glucose regulation, wound healing, and oxidative stress defense — based on the same animal literature that the field itself cites as its primary evidence base.

    The current UL of 20 mg/day, which is routinely treated as a near-dangerous ceiling, sits below the human-equivalent effective dose for many of the studied body systems. The gap between the average American diet and any measurable biological effect is not a gap of a few milligrams. It is an order of magnitude.

    The researchers know this. The numbers are all in the papers. The arithmetic just hasn’t been published in a single place, applied systematically, and stated plainly.

    Until now.
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    *All dose calculations in this article use FDA-recommended Body Surface Area allometric scaling (Km factors: Rat=6, Mouse=3, Human=37). Animal study sources include Coban, F. K., et al. (2015), Pizzorno (2015), and Naghii et al. (2011). This article is for educational and does not constitute medical advice. If you need to, consult a qualified clinician you trust before altering supplementation protocols. [1, 2, 3, 9]

    1. Coban, F. K., et al. (2015). Boron attenuates malathion-induced oxidative stress and acetylcholinesterase inhibition in rats. Drug and Chemical Toxicology, 38(4), 391–399. Full PDF Paper: https://www.researchgate.net/profile...on-in-rats.pdf

    2. Pizzorno, L. (2015). Nothing boring about boron. Integrative Medicine: A Clinician’s Journal, 14(4), 35–48. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4712861/

    3. Naghii, M. R., Mofid, M., Asgari, A. R., Hedayati, M., & Daneshpour, M. S. (2011). Comparative effects of daily and weekly boron supplementation on plasma steroid hormones and proinflammatory cytokines. Journal of Trace Elements in Medicine and Biology, 25(1), 54–58. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.jtemb.2010.10.001

    4. Institute of Medicine (US) Panel on Micronutrients. Dietary Reference Intakes for Vitamin A, Vitamin K, Arsenic, Boron, Chromium, Copper, Iodine, Iron, Manganese, Molybdenum, Nickel, Silicon, Vanadium, and Zinc. Washington (DC): National Academies Press (US); 2001. 13, Arsenic, Boron, Nickel, Silicon, and Vanadium.Available from: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK222322/

    5 . European Food Safety Authority. (n.d.). Safety/uncertainty factor, also known as assessment factor. EFSA Glossary. https://www.efsa.europa.eu/en/glossa...essment-factor

    6 . Johanson G, Moto TP, Schenk L. A scoping review of evaluations of and recommendations for default uncertainty factors in human health risk assessment. J Appl Toxicol. 2023 Jan;43(1):186-194. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10087398/

    7. Hasegawa, R., Hirata-Koizumi, M., Dourson, M. L., Parker, A., Ono, A., & Hirose, A. (2013). Safety assessment of boron by application of new uncertainty factors and their subdivision. Regulatory Toxicology and Pharmacology, 65(1), 108–114. https://doi.org/10.1016/j.yrtph.2012.10.013 (see also https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/23137930/)

    8. Reagan-Shaw S, Nihal M, Ahmad N. Dose translation from animal to human studies revisited. FASEB J. 2008 Mar;22(3):659-61. Full PDF Paper https://www.researchgate.net/profile...-revisited.pdf

    9. U.S. Food and Drug Administration. (2005). Guidance for industry: Estimating the maximum safe starting dose in initial clinical trials for therapeutics in adult healthy volunteers. Center for Drug Evaluation and Research. https://www.fda.gov/files/drugs/publ...Volunteers.pdf

    10. Nair AB, Jacob S. A simple practice guide for dose conversion between animals and human. J Basic Clin Pharm. 2016 Mar;7(2):27-31. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4804402/

    11. Reagan-Shaw S, Nihal M, Ahmad N. Dose translation from animal to human studies revisited. FASEB Journal. 2008;22(3):659–661. See Table 4 for species-specific Km conversion factors. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/article...8486/table/T4/
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    Here are some claims about borax and its health benefits. Further there are no media hype as to its health benefits. Could it be the real deal? Will love to hear your inputs.

    https://www.nexusmagazine.com/articl...rax-conspiracy
    Thanks for posting this excellent article of Walter Last's, about borax, an excellent source of boron. I linked to your post above from my thread on making healthy drinking water: How to "make" healthy water: filters, minerals and energy -- Post #38.
    Your healthy water making link is so informative! I'm curious if you have kept up with your same procedure over the years?

    If you see this, maybe you can respond on that old thread as well. Your regimen was a re-minder for me, as some of those things I have slowly dropped over the years - like the magnets and the music... Maybe I will get back to them.
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    Your healthy water making link is so informative! I'm curious if you have kept up with your same procedure over the years?

    If you see this, maybe you can respond on that old thread as well. Your regimen was a re-minder for me, as some of those things I have slowly dropped over the years - like the magnets and the music... Maybe I will get back to them.
    Good idea - I added an update to my water thread:
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    I don't know if this is new information or old, but it just came into my Twitter account, and I wish to repeat that I have been ingesting small amounts of Borax daily for about 15 years, and notice the benefits. Here is the link

    This is a partial quote from the link which has much more information:
    BORAX PULLS OUT FLUORIDE

    “Borax was swiftly banned in 32 countries after it was found to remove fluoride from the body.
    Funny how that works...”

    Borax = kills fleas & ticks in your pet areas outside.

    🐚BORAX THE SUPER CURE
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    I've been doing a one teaspoon of borax in an mason jar quart of water and drinking that over the course of two weeks or so.
    They say do a teaspoon of that solution but I've been doing 2 tablespoons twice a day.
    It's my opinion that's it's hard to do too much...
    But I'm just a dumb guy in a forum what do I know.
    That being said I'm an honest dumb guy.
    So I'm just explaining my personal experiential findings.

    I've drank an entire mason jar in one day. A full teaspoon in water.
    As an anti parasite thing. You will feel that one.
    Constant bowel movements and foul smelling winds.
    But it kills those intestinal parasites.

    As for a daily maintenance...
    I'm a convert for sure.
    I'm 53 not in the best shape.
    Blood pressure through the roof.
    Something about the calcium removal. Borax helps the cells that break down calcium.
    Very necessary.
    Research is hinting that it's calcium build up in our veins causing high blood pressure and such.
    My shoulders were getting weak and easily injured.
    Probably due to lack of blood flow.
    The borax it did something.
    My shoulders slowly came back.
    I had a nerve issue running down my left arm,
    Painful numbness and tingling.
    Constantly.
    It's 95% healed.
    My blood pressure is way way better.
    My endurance for activity due to the blood flow increase is way better.
    I'm of the opinion the increased blood flow helped my shoulders and nerve problems.
    It's sooo amazing and practically free it's so cheap.

    Just throwing my 2¢
    Take care
    In addition to the information I've quoted from an earlier post here I have new information.

    It helps hormones, especially women's hormones.
    The wife started taking it to get some of the above mentioned magic in my earlier post.
    It was like Mt Saint Helens turned into effing Hawaii.
    Not only is she in a better mood everyday, her explosive PMS has become all but completely neutralized.
    I was waiting to see if it was just a one offer or an anomaly but it's been three months now.
    It's nothing short of a domestic miracle I tell you
    Just thought you guys should know.

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    Default Re: The Borax Conspiracy

    By "coincidence", this substack by Robert Yoho MD came in my email today:
    https://robertyoho.substack.com/p/le...e-nobody-would

    It is so very informative, about the myriad of benefits from Borax; how it has become so depleted in our foods, how TPTB have worked hard at squelching the almost miraculous sounding, low-cost, health benefits, and even how it has become banned in some countries. Seems there is always more to find out about this mineral. It's a long article, but worth clicking the link and reading.

    This thread popped up at a good time for me, as I've been trying to help my sister who is dealing with bad hip pain, which her doc chalks up to arthritis and has prescribed only opioid pain pills for her. This is her third day now of borax in her water, and she reports today a slight easing. Placebo? Maybe, but we shall see.
    I noticed the good old 20-Mule-Team is no longer on the shelf at my local market, but it's still on Amazon, so I ordered a box (while we still can?). The article also suggests soaking in a warm bath with it, which sounds kind of nice.

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