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    Default ALL US Treasury dumped by guess who?

    Bill Gross, the Bond King, the single largest bond fund manager in the world has dumped ALL of his US Treasury holdings.

    Think about that for a moment. The single largest bond investor on the planet has ZERO exposure to US Treasuries right now. He's cleaned out completely.

    Let me explain the implications of this.

    Bill Gross, with the possible exception of Goldman Sachs, has the best access to the US Federal Reserve and US Treasury Department of any investor on the planet. During the 2008 Crisis it was rumored the Treasury had him on "speed dial."

    So for Gross to be dumping ALL of his US Treasury holdings means that the US debt implosion is about to hit the markets...
    which means Treasuries collapsing, interest rates soaring... and inflation going into hyperdrive.

    Source: Phoenix Capital Research

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    Default Re: ALL US Treasury dumped by guess who?

    The commentator I trust most on such matters is Eric Janszen. Disclaimer: I spent the year of 2010 as an active member of his site, iTulip.com. You can find Eric's reaction to this report (as well as a source link for this news, off ZeroHedge) at Gross dumps treasuries? [Link Disabled - behind iTulip.com subscription wall]

    (Eric was actually adding and editing his post that I linked, as I was adding and editing this post here. -- hot off the press!)
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    Quote Posted by Czarek (here)
    Bill Gross, the Bond King, the single largest bond fund manager in the world has dumped ALL of his US Treasury holdings.

    Think about that for a moment. The single largest bond investor on the planet has ZERO exposure to US Treasuries right now. He's cleaned out completely.

    Let me explain the implications of this.

    Bill Gross, with the possible exception of Goldman Sachs, has the best access to the US Federal Reserve and US Treasury Department of any investor on the planet. During the 2008 Crisis it was rumored the Treasury had him on "speed dial."

    So for Gross to be dumping ALL of his US Treasury holdings means that the US debt implosion is about to hit the markets...
    which means Treasuries collapsing, interest rates soaring... and inflation going into hyperdrive.

    Source: Phoenix Capital Research
    I traded futures for a few years and "those in the know" always said that once bonds tanked then the sh$t will hit the fan.

    Between so many countries dumping the dollar, oil (real or controlled) and debt ... I think the days of "business as usual" are near done.

    Hold on to your hat.

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    Default Re: ALL US Treasury dumped by guess who?

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    The commentator I trust most on such matters is Eric Janszen. Disclaimer: I spent the year of 2010 as an active member of his site, iTulip.com. You can find Eric's reaction to this report (as well as a source link for this news, off ZeroHedge) at Gross dumps treasuries?

    (Eric was actually adding and editing his post that I linked, as I was adding and editing this post here. -- hot off the press!)
    Hi Paul,

    Link is login for subscribers only.

    Don't want any more "copyright" issues today (*sigh*) so can you give us the "short version"?

    Thanx,

    Cal

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    Default Re: ALL US Treasury dumped by guess who?

    Quote Posted by Calz_Avaretard
    Link is login for subscribers only.
    Oops - my bad. I thought I used a browser window that was not logged into iTulip at the moment. Obviously, I didn't.

    The iTulip post to which I attempted to link has the original ZeroHedge link, at Exclusive: Bill Gross Dumps All Treasuries, Brings Total "Government Related" Holdings To Zero, Flees To Cash - No QE3? (which link is public knowledge.) Eric Janszen then observed the recent strong rise in yields on the 5 and 10 year Treasury Notes, which is often a leading indicator of a recession. He also considered what alternatives there might be for investing such money, if not Treasuries. His considerations were brief and inconclusive, though since as Calz_Avaretard notes this is subscription only analysis, I will not repeat here what Eric said, nor put it in the context of his other analysis over the years.

    Thanks for catching that, Calz_Avaretard.
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    Default Re: ALL US Treasury dumped by guess who?

    Well, not suprised. Feeling a little lightheaded at the news.

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    this is going to totally devastate the market. watch out people. the economic world has started the real tumble. we are in for the fall of a lifetime. hold on too everything that you can.
    warmest regards, corson

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    Default Re: ALL US Treasury dumped by guess who?

    All of my paid financial newsletters, and the free ones, recommend shorting US Treasuries. Just damn! Git yer gold and silver padner.

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    cant find anything in the news here in the Netherlands about it, maybe the msm is sleeping here ??
    if there is news i will post it here.

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    Quote Posted by conk (here)
    All of my paid financial newsletters, and the free ones, recommend shorting US Treasuries. Just damn! Git yer gold and silver padner.
    According to your flag, you are in the U.S. You should be aware that gold bullion can be seized (IIRC) by the government, under U.S. law since (I think) 1936.

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    Hi Czarek,

    Thanks for the heads up. Time to take my money out of the bank here in Brazil. It wouldn't be the first time if the government sequestered all savings accounts. Watch out the US this could happen to you!

    Best regards,

    Steve


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    Bill Gross, the Bond King, the single largest bond fund manager in the world has dumped ALL of his US Treasury holdings.

    Think about that for a moment. The single largest bond investor on the planet has ZERO exposure to US Treasuries right now. He's cleaned out completely.

    Let me explain the implications of this.

    Bill Gross, with the possible exception of Goldman Sachs, has the best access to the US Federal Reserve and US Treasury Department of any investor on the planet. During the 2008 Crisis it was rumored the Treasury had him on "speed dial."

    So for Gross to be dumping ALL of his US Treasury holdings means that the US debt implosion is about to hit the markets...
    which means Treasuries collapsing, interest rates soaring... and inflation going into hyperdrive.

    Source: Phoenix Capital Research

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    The Titanic has struck the iceberg. MSM will play the part of the band and continue to supply pleasant music.

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    Quote Posted by modwiz (here)
    The Titanic has struck the iceberg. MSM will play the part of the band and continue to supply pleasant music.
    excellent.......we are sinking.........SOS..... is anybody out there?
    regards, corson

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    Default Re: ALL US Treasury dumped by guess who?

    Quote Posted by corson (here)
    Quote Posted by modwiz (here)
    The Titanic has struck the iceberg. MSM will play the part of the band and continue to supply pleasant music.
    excellent.......we are sinking.........SOS..... is anybody out there?
    regards, corson

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    that was pretty funny......
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    That was very funny!

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    Default Re: ALL US Treasury dumped by guess who?

    a well timed, preplanned, "natural" disaster ( well catored too) so some can disappear in the confusion and chaos , when the realization finally hits ?[COLOR="red"]
    oh and might want to look at this posted by another member

    if an authentic document it adds a couple of dots
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    If he's moving into precious metals or oil, watch out. We're going down the toilet fast.

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    Max Keiser in good form In Eqypt


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    How many $'s worth of bonds did this guy hold/sell? Hardly anywhere near the 1 Trillion$+ that China holds...
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