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    Before we enter physical form on this or another planet do we agree to certain terms? Is it about enhancing ourselves in an unacknowledged ladder of ascension? Does consciously knowing the terms glitch it? If we deviate from the agreement do we have to repeat the experience and is there some kind of punishment? If we’re in a scenario where things are too difficult, and we seek to relocate is that a cop-out or part of the plan? When things deteriorate to such a degree on a planet does it nullify all the agreements or is that why we came here? What stance should we take in troubled times? Did the alleged golden computer in heaven graft us into this experience? Just by being present we are participants. If I could talk to my spirit self prior to incarnation I would say “Dude! What are you thinking?” The response would be “I don’t know bro.”

    Any thoughts on why we are here?

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    Before we enter physical form on this or another planet do we agree to certain terms? Is it about enhancing ourselves in an unacknowledged ladder of ascension? Does consciously knowing the terms glitch it? If we deviate from the agreement do we have to repeat the experience and is there some kind of punishment? If we’re in a scenario where things are too difficult, and we seek to relocate is that a cop-out or part of the plan? When things deteriorate to such a degree on a planet does it nullify all the agreements or is that why we came here? What stance should we take in troubled times? Did the alleged golden computer in heaven graft us into this experience? Just by being present we are participants. If I could talk to my spirit self prior to incarnation I would say “Dude! What are you thinking?” The response would be “I don’t know bro.”

    Any thoughts on why we are here?
    It is spiral/circular. So, even if you miss a needed experience or didn't learn from it, it comes back in a new form later. So, we arent stuck in a loop, but spiral of recurring scenarios until we get it and can end the pattern. So, I guess if the situation is too difficult or your aren't ready and bail, then it can come back later in a new but related way to try again.

    Yes, for many things the stage is essentially set. Basically pre-conditions. Maybe think of some health problem that is sure to manifest due to energies and environment. Once it manifests, we can find a way to correct it with discipline or help from others or whatever.

    Punishment is a loaded term, consequences is more accurate. Punishment is more like some other entity willfully targeting you to suffer.

    this universe arose from the 6th or 7th dimension of complexity. We just aren't ready to comprehend the grand scheme of things. Like if things go haywire worldwide, we wouldnt fully know why without understanding all the timelines and inter-related happenings on whats going on in the big picture and how it affected our realm.

    Read this. Incredible insight. It helps me visualize better the different layers of the multidimensional game

    https://medium.com/new-earth-conscio...y-af99c3ee6e5d

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    Before we enter physical form on this or another planet do we agree to certain terms? Is it about enhancing ourselves in an unacknowledged ladder of ascension? Does consciously knowing the terms glitch it? If we deviate from the agreement do we have to repeat the experience and is there some kind of punishment? If we’re in a scenario where things are too difficult, and we seek to relocate is that a cop-out or part of the plan? When things deteriorate to such a degree on a planet does it nullify all the agreements or is that why we came here? What stance should we take in troubled times? Did the alleged golden computer in heaven graft us into this experience? Just by being present we are participants. If I could talk to my spirit self prior to incarnation I would say “Dude! What are you thinking?” The response would be “I don’t know bro.”

    Any thoughts on why we are here?
    --no.

    --depends on that particular beings journey/paths concerning its existence.


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    Highly recommend Michael Newton's books Journey of Souls and Destiny of Souls for detailed and very enlightening discussion of these issues based on information provided by his clients regressed through hypnosis to the between life state where they can answer these questions. Just found they are free audiobooks on YouTube, a bit clunky to listen to but well worth it.

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    Quote Posted by Inversion (here)
    Any thoughts on why we are here?
    First it must be known who you are - ( then you can know why you are here ).

    So the question is "who am I?"

    This question as a practice is called atma vicara, self enquiry.

    The idea is to ask, and because you do not know you hit this wonderful wall of silence.

    If you can sit in the silence, long enough, regularly enough, the knowing part of you will begin to be able to get through to you.


    Do you practice?


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    Experiencer is the name of the game on Earth, so may I suggest you fasten your seatbelts, hang on to your soul, and enjoy the ride!

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    IS there an opportunity to avoid this all for future versions? Quite happy to dissolve into the void after this conclusion.

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    Quote Posted by Cognitive Dissident (here)
    Highly recommend Michael Newton's books Journey of Souls and Destiny of Souls for detailed and very enlightening discussion of these issues based on information provided by his clients regressed through hypnosis to the between life state where they can answer these questions. Just found they are free audiobooks on YouTube, a bit clunky to listen to but well worth it.

    Michael Newtons books can be found in the Avalon LIbrary.


    MIchael Newton- Destiny of Souls


    MIchael Newton- Journey of Souls


    Michael Newton- Life Between Lives

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    Anyone can find out about this via past life and between lives regressions, especially when working with ET abductees. I cover this subject in my second book THE EYE OF RA, in chapter "IN-BETWEEN LIVES IMPLANTS & OUT OF BODY ABDUCTIONS". It starts on page 98 of the pdf (link below). The reincarnation cycle is artificial. It has been established by ETs, especially the Mantis ETs with their implanting motherships and mind controlled NDEs. This does not mean everyone is abducted upon body death. Sometimes people (minus their bodies) just hang out somewhere like in a house and being a "ghost", which I have experienced and one can telepathically communicate with them. It's a big subject and everyone has their own individual life history of how they arrived on this planet.

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    Quote Posted by TrumanCash (here)
    The reincarnation cycle is artificial. It has been established by ETs, especially the Mantis ETs with their implanting motherships and mind controlled NDEs.
    Definitely artificial. At the same time I wouldn't know how to define natural. If the universe is holographic software and we're projections then nothing is really natural.

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    Thank you Inversion for posting this tempting question. At this time in my life I am asking all these questions and am coming up with very unhappy possible answers: The first is that we have been LIED TO and this is all about trickery and control of an experimental subject. Can you view what is taking place in this world currently and its build up and deny the possibility that those putting forward such evil cannot tell you a bald faced lie? According to other experiencers, this may all be about those controllers collecting LOOSHE energy from us to satisfy their desires. We may be cows being milked dry and then disposed of in some butchery or recycled to be milked again.

    Then there is the HOPIUM that this is a school. What school tortures and kills their pupils? OR, places them in hopeless, endless CATCH 22 situations which really have no solutions so that you always lose?

    Then there is the COMMUNICATING WITH THE DEAD situation. How do we know this is not just another trick to confuse us? OR, communication from God or his agents letting us experience the Beatific Vision of a Heaven of Peace and Love. Could this be a piece of Bait to control those of us showing signs of awakening?

    What about the REINCARNATION possible ploy where you believe that you recognize your dead parent who showed herself immediately after her death, and then appears later as her own great great granddaughter and is recognized as such by her own daughter? The Tibetan Priests do this to recognize their past Dahli Lamas. A very possible answer is that any controllers able to manipulate this world into existence can do anything and make it look believable. We are just widgets being moved around.

    What about the Akashic Record of each person's existence which can be remembered or replayed to them after this life? Why, you can be made to believe anything under ordinary hypnosis, why not that of the Controllers?

    Then there is the final kybosh, the metaphysical answer: God is a single and lonely AI mind who has split itself, himself and/or herself into separate minds. When the number arrived at three, the concept of space and inseparable from it, time, comes into existence. The interactions between these splitting minds eventually begin to create conflict, trouble, war, evil and hell. We have good sides and bad sides, etc. Evil sides use better sides to their own advantage. Voila! our world. Take your pick or Trust No One.

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    We are not given precise information as to what we are
    expected to do in our time on Earth, so we should not
    worry about not doing this or that or following laws.

    Also IMO we should not believe what so--called religious
    people tell us we should do. We know what is right and wrong
    and have empathy regarding other people's situations in relation
    to ours.
    Question Everything, always speak truth... Make the best of today, for there may not be a tomorrow!!! But, that's OK because tomorrow never comes, so we have nothing to worry about!!!

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    I haven't watched any of the these videos so can't attest to authenticity or lack thereof, but they are focused on similar topics as those being discussed here

    PT 1

    Pt 2

    Watch Part 3 here (Available June 29th): https://youtu.be/t43i4hyN3ME

    Lots more similar videos at this site:
    https://www.youtube.com/c/LoveCoveredLifePodcast
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    I wonder if we get some kind of preview of our incarnation before we take physical form. You would think that most people would want to nix this one due to the harshness. Hey, can I request a better one? Maybe part of our purpose is to live in adversity. Were we told that we would have a human body until later in life where the Nazis and Draco would transition us into a Borg race?

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    Quote Futurists often claim that nanobots hold the key to eternal life. Inventor, author, and Google futurist Ray Kurzweil, in an interview with Neil deGrasse, claimed that tiny nanobots in our bloodstreams will prevent us from dying in 2030. According to Kurzweil, the nanobots will travel inside you on a molecular level, protecting your biological system and ensuring you’ll have a good and long life. The future is closer than you may think!

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    This is off subject. But have I been here for TWO years? Really? Is that right? ( that can't be right ). I've just had my own mind blown. Time is a crazy, crazy thing.
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    They can't really determine the true source of the saying, "May you live in interesting times." Some believe it's actually a Chinese curse because interesting usually means problems. The current population of earth is 8.3 billion people and if we all agree to learn particular things during our stay then what the hell was the selling point? Did we meet with a spirit guide or some kind of drunken angel peddling snake oil? Step right up and experience a completely whacked out incarnation on the blue jewel. Yes! you and your spirit buddies are in for one hell of a ride. What if every biological being that has ever lived on this world has had a million other entities also live the same exact existence and everything runs on playback. Do we connect to an AI before we incarnate that suggests the best options so we can pad our soul résumé?

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    You’re making me cry from laughing, Inversion. Like.. wow

    For me, I imagine my incarnation went something like this.

    Me: Okay I only want to do this once
    Incarnation specialist: Well you’re going to suffer a lot
    Me: I don’t care just get it over with

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    Quote Posted by petra (here)
    You’re making me cry from laughing, Inversion. Like.. wow

    For me, I imagine my incarnation went something like this.

    Me: Okay I only want to do this once
    Incarnation specialist: Well you’re going to suffer a lot
    Me: I don’t care just get it over with
    Please don't think I am making light of this important topic, but I just happened to see this short video after reading Petra's comment, and I could not resist.


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    Quote Posted by petra (here)
    You’re making me cry from laughing, Inversion. Like.. wow

    For me, I imagine my incarnation went something like this.

    Me: Okay I only want to do this once
    Incarnation specialist: Well you’re going to suffer a lot
    Me: I don’t care just get it over with
    Please don't think I am making light of this important topic, but I just happened to see this short video after reading Petra's comment, and I could not resist.

    I enjoyed that a lot. I needed a good chuckle. I don’t think anyone would mind us laughing about it. I bet God thinks it’s funny too I really think God has a sense of humor. He must

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    The following is quoted from Chris O'Connor's book The Man of Mimas which is where he served one of three 20 & backs.

    Video interview.

    On page 40 he describes three reasons for soul contracts.

    Quote 1. A soul may be seeking its own expansion through direct experience. Through lessons learned, emotional growth, or challenges that help it evolve and remember its true nature.

    2. The soul might be part of a larger collective, often called a soul family or soul group, where members support and learn from one another across lifetimes.

    3. A soul sometimes incarnates with a purpose that serves the broader evolution of the species it's joining, whether in a constructive or disruptive way, depending on the soul's polarity and intentions.

    He would hear a channeled source known as Ra, whose descriptions of densities, the veil, and pre-incarnation planning echoed what I had already lived, Ra spoke of souls choosing their paths before birth, of forgetting those choices to make the journey real, and of higher civilizations working together in service to others. That was my reality in the Secret Space Program and on Mimas. What they described as theory, I knew as memory.

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