Antibiotics and me

[Pam]

Posted by Franny (here)
I was out for a short hike and realized I had a slightly painful patch on my lower leg. At home took a good look and realized it was MRSA cellulitis again. Attacked it alternating with turpentine and oregano oil for a few hours, then wrapped it up with fine chopped garlic for 20 min. Then went back to alternating oregano oil and turpentine. Went to bed with turmeric poultice and resumed the oregano/turpentine the next day. It was gone by the following day but I continued for another day or two. Also swallowed oregano and turpentine for this one as it can become systemic.

Other infections get the same oregano/turpentine treatment now.

It was my second time with MRSA and got over it quickly. The first time was quite a bit worse as I did not know how to treat it and went to my Dr. She treated it with a drug from the Cipro family and a few others as I couldn't tolerate the Cipro. Finally I alternated oregano oil and turpentine and that took care of it.

Also used it for an infected finger!

Hope this helps others with a similar situation.

Thanks Franny, for sharing this. What kind of turpentine can I get for my medicinal box? If you wouldn't mind sharing. Is it the stuff from the hardware store?

[palehorse]

Posted by Pam (here)

Posted by Franny (here)
I was out for a short hike and realized I had a slightly painful patch on my lower leg. At home took a good look and realized it was MRSA cellulitis again. Attacked it alternating with turpentine and oregano oil for a few hours, then wrapped it up with fine chopped garlic for 20 min. Then went back to alternating oregano oil and turpentine. Went to bed with turmeric poultice and resumed the oregano/turpentine the next day. It was gone by the following day but I continued for another day or two. Also swallowed oregano and turpentine for this one as it can become systemic.

Other infections get the same oregano/turpentine treatment now.

It was my second time with MRSA and got over it quickly. The first time was quite a bit worse as I did not know how to treat it and went to my Dr. She treated it with a drug from the Cipro family and a few others as I couldn't tolerate the Cipro. Finally I alternated oregano oil and turpentine and that took care of it.

Also used it for an infected finger!

Hope this helps others with a similar situation.

Thanks Franny, for sharing this. What kind of turpentine can I get for my medicinal box? If you wouldn't mind sharing. Is it the stuff from the hardware store?

Hi Pam, sorry to get in the middle haha.. but I still searching for genuine Turps from pine trees not the petro based (this one you can find easily in the hardware store). I had seen people talking about the petro based one for healing purposes, which is not the same thing, they are different products, I have the petro based here, and I guarantee for you, it is not the same thing, I even took a drop in my mouth (it is awful).

The Turpentine once was used to fuel the first Honda motorcycles by Mr. Honda himself, right after the second war ended in Japan, since there was a shortage for gasoline and other fuels. This thing is really strong just like gasoline, highly flammable.

There is a big market around gum rosin, check it out http://www.rosinnet.com/market
Most of turpentine in the market is petroleum based due to the cost to produce it (much cheaper), since it is used in many many industries include cosmetics and food industry but there is also the resin based, one just need to find the correct channel, I know Brazil, Australia, Norway and Canada are big producers not only of soft wood from pine trees but also of gum rosin.

Check this post https://projectavalon.net/forum4/sho...=1#post1428618
and also the thread is packed with great information about Turpentine from other member's experience among many other things great info, I recommend read it all, the best info ever on Turpentine in one single place

Get the Turpentine distilled from Pine Trees only for your medicinal box, the other one is industrialized and contain additives that may or may not harm the body, I don't know.


[EDITED]
Adding some more info, following is the two types of bases Turpentine can be made of:

- RESIN
---- PETROLEUM RESIN PETCOAL
---- PETROLEUM RESIN C5 5100
---- PETROLEUM RESIN C9 SP120
---- PETROLEUM RESIN C9 DARK COLOR SP90/SP100/SP120
---- PHENOLIC RESIN
- ROSIN <<<<<--- This is the base from trees
---- GUM ROSIN W/W GRADE
---- GUM ROSIN X GRADE

[avatar]

Apparently a yeast-free diet doesn't allow grains/bread at all. I googled it. Kudos to Bill for maintaining that for 18 months!

[TargeT]

Posted by avatar (here)
Apparently a yeast-free diet doesn't allow grains/bread at all. I googled it. Kudos to Bill for maintaining that for 18 months!

Keto diet doesn't either

[grapevine]

10 million deaths a year! Why did we stop using the one treatment that still works?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=OLqoYs__A_I

Apologies for posting this video here which has nothing to do with Bill's experiences. However, it is very relevant, I think, but mods please move to a more appropriate place if you disagree.

As is often the case, quite a lot of useful information is given in the comments section of this video and I would urge you to pop over to YT after watching here ad-free and read some of them.

"10 million deaths a year.

That is how many people are predicted to die from antibiotic-resistant infections if we do not find new treatments.

In today’s episode, Professor Martha Clokie and Professor Tim Spector explore the secret gut viruses, known as phages, being studied to fight deadly infection, target cancer cells, and to protect your gut microbiome.

Martha is a world-leading expert on the mysterious phage and, for the last 20 years, has pioneered research to revolutionise the treatment of infections without antibiotics. She explains why antibiotic resistance is a growing global threat, why everyday infections are becoming harder to treat, and how some bacteria are now resistant to every antibiotic available. We explore how the viruses in our gut may help solve this problem, and how scientists may one day use them to deliver highly targeted cancer treatment.

By the end of the episode, you’ll have some ideas to help support a healthier gut ecosystem and understand how to increase the number of friendly gut viruses that live inside you.

The science is still early, but the message is clear: the small choices we make every day are shaping our long-term resilience to disease.

If viruses can help protect us from infection rather than cause it, how much of human health are we only just beginning to understand?

Timecodes
00:00 Antibiotic resistance could kill 10 million people a year
01:34 The gut viruses scientists say we need to survive
03:19 There are more gut viruses than stars in the universe "
10:50 The billion-year war happening inside your gut
13:10 The hidden system controlling your microbiome
14:42 What healthy microbiomes have that unhealthy guts lose
16:33 The gut viruses that may protect you from infection
17:38 Why your immune system allows trillions of viruses to live inside you
19:25 The natural viruses that kill salmonella
20:52 Why ageing may weaken your gut’s viral defences
22:05 Scientists still don’t know what most gut viruses do
25:12 The strange origin story of phage therapy
27:22 Doctors are already using viruses to treat deadly infections
28:02 Why antibiotics are starting to fail
29:07 The deadly infection crisis bigger than cancer
30:38 How factory farming fuels antibiotic resistance
32:27 The antibiotic resistance emergency is already here
33:25 The forgotten treatment abandoned after antibiotics
35:50 Why phage therapy may spare your microbiome
36:37 The dying patient saved by experimental viruses
39:41 Could phages replace antibiotics in the future?
40:50 The viruses scientists are using to target cancer cells
44:35 How diet shapes the viruses living in your gut
46:05 The surprising link between coffee and gut health
47:25 The foods that may increase healthy gut viruses
50:34 The future of gut health, cancer treatment and infection prevention

And here are one or two comments:
@simont6439
Phage therapy was extensively developed in the USSR in the 1930s, notably in Tbilisi, Georgia. In Russia today you get it in normal pharmacies. So it's soon been used in treatment for a 100 years. This is not a case of waiting for the science. It's the western pharmaceutical industry holding their populations hostage by only treating symptoms with long term / permanent drug use. A cured customer is no longer a customer.

@Chelseabeach3
1 month ago
There's one question you are not asking about a very common bacterial disease - ulcers. When Barry Marshall got his Nobel prize for his ulcer cure, it involved using two broad spectrum antibiotics and a longer treatment of bismuth to kill the Helicobacter pylori phages. Recently some idiots on the national Formulary Committee decided to substitute Omeprazole, a patented drug that inhibits acid production but has no impact on the bacteria, for the bismuth. The result has been an explosion in ulcer cases. I was one of the first patients to be treated by Barry Marshall in the UK, and when I recently had a brief recurrence of the duodenal ulcer, I declined the Omeprazole offered but found that all bismuth treatments had been excluded from the UK, and had to purchase my supplies from the USA online. The resurgent duodenal ulcer was cured by the end of the course. This is an absolute scandal and I cannot help thinking that some element of corruption - or at least the undue influence of big Pharma - may be involved.

@steve6375
2 months ago (edited)
Phages have been known about and used for over 60 years. They are used in the UK to treat animals but not humans as they are not licensed for humans. The big problem is that they are naturally occurring and cannot be patented. No drug company is going to spend many millions of £ for phase 1, 2 and 3 trials on humans for a specific antibacterial phage. Phages are extremely effective and highly specific, we just can't use them because of the patent problem. An American company bought the Georgia labs inventory of phages and was going to develop phages for humans but hit this issue of patents and specificity which meant even if it was licensed after expensive trials, everyone could copy it very easily as you just grow the bacteria plus the phage!"

[petra]

In Canada there’s very few over the counter antibiotics. One of them is polysporin. We use that on everything here. I even used it in my mouth. The dentist said its not meant to be used internally but it cured my gum infection. We put it on cuts all the time to prevent scarring. I’m sure some of you may gasp at that and think I could have poisoned myself. I only used a little and didn’t swallow any. We actually don’t have any right now but meaning to get some. No one is sparing with polysporin here.. I didn’t realize it could impact your bowels. That’s probably only with the kind you take orally.