Kerrys interviews George Kavassilas on "Project Camelot Radio

[shiva777]

lots of food for thought here regarding the deceptions of the new age religion,discerning between helpful ET's and others,future scenarios....my discernment tells me George is also being misled..but a LOT less than most others are.He understands how the so-called "beings of light" are seducing people..listen and share what your discernment is..DISCERNMENT IS KEY to navigating the coming chaos

https://youtube.com/watch?v=6tc2FbVl17w

seeing that there are a few new people spreading this new-agey deception,the love light and cluesless opium in this section this may prove extra useful for those having discernment issues

[slipknotted]

funny he did'nt say anything new but if you dont know of him then enjoy.

[shiva777]

listening to the last 10 mins of this show and remembering it, and the evnts in the next few years will show that George is being misled about "ascension"...portals at the end of 2011.mid 2012 evac and 2013 ascension...good idea to keep this last segment in your files as then you can show people that George is being misled after those dates come and go

[yiolas]

Shiva, unfortunately No One can be 100% sure of the truth yet. We are all still in the process of finding it out.

[shiva777]

yeah..George is saying he DOES KNOW what will happen in the next few years..things are FLUID..no one knows

[yiolas]

George is expressing his truth based on his own personal experiences. As with all information that we receive from an increasing variety of speakers these days, all we can do is have an open mind and heart in processing someone else's truth. I won't deny that I like George K. and resonate with his message relating to individual soul paths and not following a herd mentality, respect of Mother Earth and each other as well as the prospect of humanity ascending to a higher dimensional state of being with her. These are my truths. They don't have to be yours or anyone else's for that matter.

[shiva777]

learning to discern and listen closely is what I am interested in Yiola's..you are coming at this from another angle..when people discuss their discernment on things it often allows others to fine tune their discerning abilities..so let's look at discerning what george is REALLY saying in this interview


George and Kerry say in this interview that if you believe there are many truths you are deluded..there is no "my truth or your truth"(which is one of the biggest new-agey delusions),there is TRUTH and then there are delusions that people adopt as TRUTH

...this is the crux of Georges philosophy on life,he believes he KNOWS THE ULTIMATE TRUTH...this confusion around "truth" is one of the most important ones to discern..I don't go for the "my truth,your truth" thing either...there is ultimate TRUTH and there are delusions that people take to be "truths"...the truth word gets thrown around in new-agey circles to keep people confused and swimming in ego

yiolas said "These are my truths"...maybe a better way of putting it is that this is what resonates with you..otherwise you could just as easily say "these are my possible delusions" and effectively it would mean the same as you saying "these are my truths"...

just bringing up these points for those who may have missed that important point that George made in the interview regarding his views on the trap of "my truth,your truth"...if it is your truth that you can fly off a 10 storey building naked and drunk,when you try it you may realise that it is not "your truth",it is "your delusion" or "your belief" or what resonates with you..but in no way is it "truth".yours or anyone elses

[yiolas]

Point taken Shiva.
For the time being though until we know the ULTIMATE TRUTH all we have are our own personal perspectives of the truth. I have always considered myself a searcher of the truth.

As long as were talking about truths here, do you deny that you have a disdain for George K. and that you would really prefer to talk about the "TRUTH' according to Ashayana Dean ?

[PathWalker]

Following Shiva777 pattern of thought,

There is one truth, and many projections. The private projection is distorted by culture and programming (even language is a distortion).
So after 46 year of seeking, one is evolving to the conclusion that understanding is not required.
There are other requirements that involve sharp discern. Mostly introspection and release.

I learned to identify and appreciate shiva777 style.
BTW shiva777 has softened.

[PathWalker]

Posted by shiva777 (here)
lots of food for thought here regarding the deceptions of the new age religion,discerning between helpful ET's and others,future scenarios....my discernment tells me George is also being misled..but a LOT less than most others are.He understands how the so-called "beings of light" are seducing people..listen and share what your discernment is..DISCERNMENT IS KEY to navigating the coming chaos

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6tc2FbVl17w

seeing that there are a few new people spreading this new-agey deception,the love light and cluesless opium in this section this may prove extra useful for those having discernment issues

there you go..

[open mind]

Everyone has there opinion on what might be happening in the near future, But nothing is concrete.
I personally beleive there is truth to everyones ones discernment at some level, But placing the pieces of puzzle together can be a difficult task.
No one knows the ultimate truth and this is where discernment is key...

[Mandala]

Thank you for posting Shiva, I watched all 6 parts. I like George's humility and also his push for people seeking their own resonating truth. Shiva, I hoped to get a respo9nse from you because of your expertise about the other George Kavassilas thread I posted on Ascension and beyond. You may not have seen it. Mandala

[Cottage Rose]

I noticed these strange shapeshifting effects when I first watched the 8/16/10 Kavassilas interview. Much later, I noticed someone had put this video together. I find it interesting the effects always occur at appropriate emotional moments. If you have not seen the referenced interview, I recommend watching it after watching the clips to view the moments in context.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3Gybd-ljoG8

[jorr lundstrom]

I dont even find this entertaining. Do find out what real shapeshifting is all about

instead of getting involved in this childishness, please. Ask a schaman in your neigh-

borhood to show you. Or if he /she cant do it he/she sure knows someone who can.

If you dont want to learn how to do it for yourself of course.

Love and carrots on me

[BMJ]

The really truth about 21/12/12 is that everyone person on Avalon & every new age & alternative media personality is speculating about what will happen on 21/12/12, and that is the truth, regardless of their sources or experience. End of story.

Can any of you see into the future or have concrete proof to justify your claims about what's happening coming up to 21/12/12?

If so then please present you case.

Otherwise we will all just have to what and see what happens in the next year and a half and see into which model if any future events fit into.

P.S. Regarding George K I resonate with his thoughts, have a gut feeling, that he is right and that is all, I have no other way of validating his thoughts / model.

[dim]

As no matter how loud or quiet we play our guitars the light in the room wont change its intensity and vice versa yet both sound and light exist in the same place at the same time completely oblivious each other,
likewise everything and more than everything and then some is possible and all simultaneously,
does the sound change at any way as the light in the room dims or vanish ?
isn't obvious that a change in vibrational level can't be experienced or understood by a consciousness in another yet both are sharing the same time/space continuum inside an all accepting awareness ?

[Icecold]

Sellout tour.......wow!

Interesting point of view.

[yiolas]

I hadn't even had a chance to listen to Kerry's interview with George when I found myself in the position of defending George's Character.
It is common though, when someone has something novel to say he will have his share of detractors.

As usual it was not even a discussion about the essence of George's cosmology but rather an divisive debate about "THE TRUTH" vs "Personal Truths". Inspite of Shiva's objections, there are many including myself who will agree with BMJ when he says

Regarding George K I resonate with his thoughts, have a gut feeling, that he is right and that is all, I have no other way of validating his thoughts / model.

I will listen to the interview today and give my assessment. Kerry has her own interview style as we know. She blew the last interview with him last year . I hope she did a better job this time.

[TraineeHuman]

George’s interviews continue to grow more interesting. It’s unfortunate that his material still has some major weaknesses and inconsistencies. I'm really much more of a fan than a detractor, but here goes.

It’s laudable to have one more individual attempt his own reconstruction of parts of Gnosticism, combined with his own other material. That’s laudable because we know that the Gnostics were heavily persecuted by the Catholic Church for taking a stand against teachings and practices that all (or almost all) of us here would agree were false, very oppressive and corrupt. That doesn’t in itself prove that what the Gnostics taught was necessarily “the Truth”, of course. But at the very least they had great insights.

In his latest interviews George has started to tie back many of his statements to his own direct experiences – which really every speaker should do. It seems he has had far more communication with ETs than pretty much all of us, including myself, so that’s in itself interesting for all to hear about. But there are at least two different “takes” on alien abduction, and George leaves me no further convinced to buy his “paranoid” take than the alternative one. By the latter, I mean something along the lines that the people who experience ET abduction are subsequently abducted a second time but by black human ops, probably collaborating with EEBEs, with the intent of traumatizing the abductees (and probably also genetic sampling, which the original abduction also often may have involved).

George seems to have big links in his mind between the topics of alien abductions in general and what is going on on the moon. But I don’t see how the links are so big. Now, anyone who can astral project could visit the moon. There they would discover that it is indeed a slave labour system, at least for any humans unfortunate enough to go there. I have no doubt the NWO have their own bases on the moon. But I would also say it’s very foolish to astral project to a place like the moon if you project using any type of “body”, such as an astral body. George, I’m sure you can easily learn how to project in a formless state, as all walk-ins know how to do.

It seems clear that common sense tells us that George’s statement that we all have to be incarnated as, among other things, the most evil and destructive people of all, is wrong. Surely most of us don’t need to run over and kill a pedestrian before we learn the lesson that speeding is dangerous. It’s only necessary to have the insight into how destructive some action can be. We don’t need to ever actually have the experience ourselves at all. We do, however, need sufficient understanding of ourselves to realize and fully accept we are capable of doing evil things. But being capable of them doesn’t mean we continue to strongly desire to do them – once we’ve been honest with ourselves and accepted that that potential is (or was) there in us. (Incidentally, I’m using pedestrian killing strictly as a metaphor here. Months ago I used the metaphor that you don’t need to ever become an alcoholic to know that excessive drinking is destructive, and it seemed to me some members hijacked that discussion to the topic of their experiences of alcoholism. If your ego takes you off thread, please do start your own thread!) Understanding is the key to liberation or ascension from the 3D world. Understanding is what makes a person so well-rounded that they have empathy for, and can see the point of view of, anybody else. Which saves them from having to go through a whole future lifetime just to see things from that other point of view.

I’ll post some more of my comments about George in a few days’ time, and explain where I see the biggest inconsistencies, that haven't been mentioned yet. I haven't mentioned the ones I see yet, but the above remarks are a kind of introduction to where the inconsistencies are. as I see them. Might watch the whole video again in the meantime, because there's some great stuff there.

[cheez_2806]

Thanks yiolas,
I just posted a thread liek two minutes ago about the finding out the truth...and that I'm lost...
I thought the truth is already some what known but now it seems that No One can be 100% sure....I see now...