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    Default Re: 9/11: Truth Still Matters, Over 20 Years Later

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    Many victim families likely are unaware it exists. It should be made public.
    I think there's a lot more footage (and photographs) they're holding back, keeping under lock and key. And I don't just mean from CCTV and traffic cams that may have captured the plane/object/missile that hit the Pentagon -- all confiscated by the FBI. I'm thinking additional pieces of footage exist of both plane strikes in New York, of the burning that followed and both collapses, that we've never seen. Count Building 7 in that, too. It is entirely feasible, also, that images exist that were taken inside the towers at the time of the attacks that we're also not allowed to see. These would have been taken by people who got out in time and survived the collapse.

    ..one individual among them who is holding what looks very much like a camcorder...I can't find that footage right now, but it exists and I've seen it.
    Totally agree with the above.

    Regarding [bolded]: yes, I've seen this, and very recently too. If memory serves me well, the people seen trying to get some air hanging out of the window panes I think were Sumitomo Bank employees on the 96th floor WTC1, and one can definitely be seen holding a camcorder (or equivalent), and does appear to be filming.

    I'll see if I can track that down: its possible I may have 'saved' it via a X repost
    Ok, best I've been able to manage is via a page source hack on Reddit - Reddit is forcing ID verification for mature content re the 9/11Archive there, which I just won't do. It is also a NIST FOIA video but I can't determine the actual number for it so it may be findable (eventually!) via the very large stock of video that they hold.

    It's not very clear but it is freeze framed footage of what it is you are after. The person might be Joon Koo Kang but I wouldn't want to totally commit to that, 2nd person in from the left, I think.

    The link is here: https://v.redd.it/o9esllfjuiyb1/DASH_96.mp4

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    Thanks for the upload. Here's a better, stabilised view of it. I couldn't manage for some reason to embed this clip, which I finally managed to track down, so I uploaded it to the server. It's only 2mb.

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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Thanks for the upload. Here's a better, stabilised view of it. I couldn't manage for some reason to embed this clip, which I finally managed to track down, so I uploaded it to the server. It's only 2mb.

    Splendid, well done Yes, a much better copy.

    Unrelated to the film, but an often recurring thought: I think, time permitting, that I need to try and get a better fix on how Jeffrey Epstein fitted into this whole operation. Given his close association with Lutnick he had to have been a key player; the money point-man and Mossad agent extraordinaire.
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    Is there a Epstein / 9/11 rabbit hole? I must admit I've not even glimpsed the entrance to that one. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he were a player here. One potential thread of involvement I can think of on the spot might be his possible connection to Larry Silverstein, (recent) owner of the WTC complex, who later made billions from the insurance claim, and, due to very fortuitous circumstances, wasn't in the towers that morning.

    Every morning he took breakfast in the Windows on the World restaurant at the top of the north tower. But on that morning, on 9/11, he scheduled a dentist appointment at the last moment.
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    Default Re: 9/11: Truth Still Matters, Over 20 Years Later

    The Machines That Built the World Trade Center (1966-1973)

    Watching this without sound at the moment but will revisit for a proper view over the weekend



    Description from the YouTube link, which I haven't embedded here - the embed is our library copy - so any of you interested do not have to put up with insufferable adverts every minute or so ( )
    In 1968, eight machines arrived in New York from the other side of the world. Australian-built kangaroo cranes, designed to sit inside the two tallest buildings ever attempted and climb them as the steel rose beneath them. America had been building skyscrapers for seventy years, but no crane in the country could reach the roof of the World Trade Center. This is the story of how the Twin Towers were built, told the way the machines saw it.

    From the demolition of Radio Row and the Italian slurry wall trick that built the famous "bathtub" seventy feet down into a riverbed, to the steel war that locked out U.S. Steel and Bethlehem, the eight Favco STD 2700 climbing cranes from Australia, the secret eye exam sway experiments, the first damper system ever installed in a skyscraper, and the puzzle nobody thinks about: how the cranes got back down. Construction history from 1966 to 1973, before the towers became a memory.

    CHAPTERS
    0:00 Eight Machines From Australia
    1:27 Clearing Radio Row
    5:32 The Bathtub and the Slurry Wall
    11:40 The Steel War
    18:31 Kangaroo Cranes Climb the Sky
    29:32 Topping Out and Coming Down

    Sources include Cranes Today, NIST, FEMA 403, George Tamaro / ASCE, Angus Kress Gillespie "Twin Towers" (Rutgers University Press), the Skyscraper Museum, PACCAR / HistoryLink, Elevator World, and the 9/11 Memorial & Museum archives. This video is an original documentary using archival material under fair use for education and commentary.
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    Default Re: 9/11: Truth Still Matters, Over 20 Years Later

    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    Is there a Epstein / 9/11 rabbit hole? I must admit I've not even glimpsed the entrance to that one. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he were a player here. One potential thread of involvement I can think of on the spot might be his possible connection to Larry Silverstein, (recent) owner of the WTC complex, who later made billions from the insurance claim, and, due to very fortuitous circumstances, wasn't in the towers that morning.

    Every morning he took breakfast in the Windows on the World restaurant at the top of the north tower. But on that morning, on 9/11, he scheduled a dentist appointment at the last moment.
    Yup, tell me about it (Silverstein ), another shifty (and some) character

    Epstein: I'm assuming there has to be but I haven't picked up a hot trail, yet.

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    Have you seen the file where Ed Epstein asks Ghislaine Maxwell if she wanted to sit on a shadow 9/11 commission "The membership list is secret". It was on the 6th Jan 2003. (https://www.justice.gov/epstein/file...TA02332458.pdf)

    The Young Turks posted a good video covering it a few days back (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TtxGJdS5jSo)

    Also worth noting, Ghislaine's sister Christine Maxwell was a co-founder of Chiliad, the company that investigated the 9/11 'terrorist' attacks via their intelligence software.

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    Fun fact: Howard Lutnick was CEO of Cantor Fitzgerald at the time. All 658 employees who went to work in the WTC that day died. He happened to be taking his kid to school.

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    I wonder who shorted the airline stocks just before 9/11, if a bookmaker was taking bets on it I know who my Money would be on.

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    And from here:
    Governments had ignored probing the Epstein case for decades because they knew it included more than trafficking & would implicate nearly every allied government, and then some. This is what I’ve learned so far.

    Epstein’s crimes:

    Serial rapist

    Child sex trafficking

    Intelligence asset/espionage

    Government corruption/bribery

    Blackmail/Kompromat

    Insider trading

    Money laundering

    Tax evasion

    Illegal weapons trade

    War profiteering

    Possibly murder
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    A little on Howard Lutnick, from https://www.britannica.com/money/Howard-Lutnick:

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    Cantor Fitzgerald and 9/11

    Lutnick joined Cantor Fitzgerald in 1983 right out of college. His meteoric rise left him as president and CEO in 1991, when he was just 29. Even in the cutthroat world of Wall Street, Lutnick had a reputation for playing hardball. When his mentor and Cantor Fitzgerald cofounder Bernie Cantor was dying in 1996, he managed to wrestle control of the firm away from the Cantor family.

    On the morning of September 11, 2001, Lutnick was not in his office on the 105th floor of the North Tower of the World Trade Center, because he took his son Kyle to his first day of kindergarten. None of the 658 Cantor employees who went to the office that day survived. Of the 2,753 people who died in the New York attacks that day, a staggering 24 percent of them worked at Cantor Fitzgerald.

    In the days after the attacks, Lutnick became one of the faces of the tragedy; he openly wept during an ABC News interview with Connie Chung as he described searching hospitals for his missing employees.

    Lutnick came under heavy criticism when, within days of the attack, he stopped paychecks for employees who had perished, a step he said was necessary to ensure the firm’s survival. However, less than two months after the tragedy, he authorized the payment of some $45 million in bonuses to the families. He subsequently set up the Cantor Fitzgerald Relief Fund, which donated $180 million to the families of his firm’s employees.

    “I went to 20 funerals a day for 35 days,” he told the BBC in 2006. “So there were times I couldn’t even go to my great friends’ funerals. One day, my best friend’s brother was being buried at the same exact time as my roommate from college’s brother. So my wife went to one, and I went to one.”

    The financial devastation to the firm was profound: The company went from making $1 million a day to losing that much each day. Lutnick did what many of his Wall Street detractors considered impossible: He rebuilt the firm back bigger, with expanded stock and bond trading as well as investment banking. Twenty years after the September 11 attacks, Cantor Fitzgerald employed 12,000 people worldwide, 60 of whom were the children of Cantor employees who died that day.

    The firm’s loss in the 9/11 attacks was later the subject of a 2012 documentary, Out of the Clear Blue Sky.

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    Collection of unattributed photographs of the September 11th terrorist attack on the World Trade Center, New York City digital files from originals

    Held in the Library of Congress 250 digitised photographs from a photographer who wished to remain anonymous.

    This large collection can be accessed through this link: https://www.loc.gov/resource/ppmsca....ce=chatgpt.com

    Description (ignore the nonsense about hijackers):
    Summary
    Slides showing the disastrous aftermath of two airplanes crashing into the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in lower Manhattan after being highjacked by terrorists on September 11, 2001. Includes the burning towers seen from uptown; the photographer's trip to the ground zero area; and the conditions north of the World Trade Center, near West Street. Also views of New York City Fire Department fire fighting and rescue operations in the areas near West Street, the Verizon Building, 7 World Trade Center, the North Bridge, the Customs House, the Winter Garden, and the American Express Tower at the World Financial Center.
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    Interesting video... Mehdi and General Clark..

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    Four-Star General ADMITS He Was Paid by Iranian Regime-Change Group


    It’s been 25 years since 9/11, which also means 25 years of the so-called global “War on Terror.”

    But did you know that in the weeks following the attacks, a retired four-star U.S. general went to the Pentagon and was told that the Bush administration was planning to attack seven Middle Eastern countries in the span of just five years?

    Iraq was one of them, as was Iran. Since 9/11, the U.S. has attacked five of those seven countries.

    That general, former Supreme Allied Commander Europe of NATO, Wesley Clark, tells Mehdi, “It was clear at the time that we were going to have to do something to Osama bin Laden. I also knew that we’d been scheming to find a reason to invade and finish off Saddam Hussein.”

    This interview published on September 10, 2026 at zeteo.com. If you want early, exclusive access to this kind of independent, unfiltered journalism — subscribe to our Substack here: https://zeteo.com/subscribe

    00:00 Intro
    02:03 Gen. Clark’s 9/11 experience
    6:53 Could War on Terror have been avoided?
    14:30: How Iraq War empowered Iran
    20:23 Why US lost war in Afghanistan
    23:02 The lesson of 9/11
    26:53 Can Iran War be won?
    37:49 Why Gen. Clark supports a terrorist organization
    42:11 Pete Hegseth’s military purge


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