Posted by Mark (Star Mariner)
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Posted by PlasmaVortex
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is it true that Rothschilds' main rivals for the creation of debt slavery were killed on the boat?
No.
First reason being, the so-called rivals, namely John Jacob Astor, Isidor Straus, and Benjamin Guggenheim, weren't murdered. They died. On a sinking ship. They had every opportunity to save themselves by stepping into a lifeboat. That is well documented.
In each case they gave up their seats. They could easily have saved themselves, but didn't. They chose to sacrifice themselves for the good of others.
Second is, proposals for the Federal Reserve did not coming into being until late 1913, nearly eighteen months after Astor, Strauss, Guggenheim were dead.
Third reason, for the conspiracy to be true, all three said rivals would have to have been coerced or persuaded to book passage on the fateful voyage. But none of the men were invited on board.
- Astor was a late booking. He'd been travelling in Europe. His wife was pregnant at the time (depicted in Cameron's movie) and he was bringing her back home to America for medical reasons.
- Guggenheim only booked passage on Titanic because the Lusitania, which he'd booked originally, was temporarily out of service and undergoing repairs. Cunard had transferred all Lusitania passengers to the smaller Carmania, but Guggenheim elected to travel on Titanic because it was faster and much more luxurious.
- Strauss was simply travelling home after spending the winter in Cape Martin, France. Archibald Gracie later testified that Strauss refused a berth in a lifeboat (his right as a first class passenger). He was a gentlemen, and like Astor gave up his seat so that others could live. Ida, his wife, then got out of the lifeboat herself, to stay behind with her husband. Both went down with the ship.
Third reason. For JP Morgan to have 'arranged the sinking', he'd have to
know long in advance that stray pack ice would float as far south as the Grand Banks (very very rare for April), and then intersect the shipping lanes to be at the right place at the right time, to lie directly, perfectly, in Titanic's path for it to strike.
Fourth reason. There are no records to imply that Astor, Strauss, Guggenheim opposed the Federal Reserve.
None. The only prominent person to oppose its formation was Charles Lindbergh. And he was not 'got rid of' (lived safe and happy until 1924).
And there are others, like a whole host of lies, misconceptions and skewed facts that when scrutinized thoroughly dissembles this so-called conspiracy. It the end it doesn't have a leg to stand on.
Re: Secrets of the Titanic ~ On the 100 Year Anniversary
I'd say that that is a wrap - this 'conspiracy' is dead
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