I used to see UFOs, I no longer do, and I think I know why?

[thepainterdoug]

When I was jacked into seeing ufos and stuff in the sky, I was always looking. I was always thinking about it and I most always had a camera with me.  After seeing and documenting many of these objects, I eventually tired of it and the entire topic.   

I knew it was real, but the rest of the above board world didn't react.

Once I found NDE stories and was uplifted by reading them, I kinda switched over.
Some time after, I noticed, not only do I not ever see anything up there anymore, I feel like I wont see anything.and  that's the point.. 
  
I'm convinced it's something to some extent, connected to intention, will, and consciousness.   you have to join the vibration by paying your dues, being sincere.
Ill add some of my images upon request.

What are your thoughts?painterdoug

[Bill Ryan]

Maybe someone else can help me remember who presented this recently? (It was on one of the many UFO-themed podcasts, like Jesse Michels, Danny Jones, maybe even Joe Rogan, or quite possibly someone else.)

The issue was that of a number of reported cases of one person reporting having seen a UFO very vividly and clearly, maybe even quite close to the ground. But the other person with them didn't see anything.

If I remember right, one of of the possible explanations discussed was how we each kind of personally adapt our individual experience of a simulated reality. Sometimes there are glitches, which most often occur with the resulting experience being what we call 'supernatural' or 'paranormal'. (In other words, that's when the 'rules of reality' seem to break.)

If there's anything close to something like that going on, then our personal consciousness would be the main thing that influences what we experience.

Michael Talbot's classic book The Holographic Universe (in the library here) is all about this. And the Mandela Effect has to be linked in there somehow as well. (Why do some people recall some things crystal clearly, while others have no memory of them at all?)

[rgray222]

Doug, I think what you’re saying certainly has merit. I believe the UFO topic is related to the afterlife; the afterlife is my terminology, but call it what you wish: a different dimension or realm. Once we take the UFO thoughts as far as we can, we move on to different aspects of the afterlife. This includes topics such as near-death experiences (NDE), reincarnation, ghosts and spirits, heaven and hell, 'life' after death, out-of-body experiences (OBE), the soul, mediumship, and even different religions. So, our consciousness is focused on different aspects of the afterlife. I'm not saying we lose interest; we have just refocused our thoughts and attention elsewhere.

The afterlife consumes so much of our collective consciousness because it touches life's biggest uncertainties. What happens when we die, whether we remain ourselves, and whether our lives have meaning beyond the present. Death is universal, and it is man's biggest mystery.

By the way, when you say "paying your dues," what exactly are you talking about?
Thanks

[RunningDeer]

Yes, sometimes we lose interest in certain things, or our focus shifts to what’s happening in our lives. Our energy may also move toward other areas, and things we once explored or experienced can gradually become less of a focus.

I used to be able to move Christmas ornaments through intention and visualization. They looked like soap bubbles, and I hung them above my bed at varying lengths with invisible thread to create the illusion of movement.

I first discovered this ability by accident while staring up at the ceiling. It was more like an impromptu meditation than anything deliberate. As I gazed, I noticed a couple of the ornaments moving ever so slightly. There were no fans running and no drafts coming through the closed window.

I began experimenting by focusing on one ornament and making it move while keeping the other three stationary. Then I added a second, and so on. I could make them move forward and backward, side to side, and even in a circle.

Knowing it was possible was another reminder that we’re capable of more than we often give ourselves credit for.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by RunningDeer (here)
Yes, sometimes we lose interest in certain things, or our focus shifts to what’s happening in our lives. Our energy may also move toward other areas, and things we once explored or experienced can gradually become less of a focus.

I used to be able to move Christmas ornaments through intention and visualization. The ornaments looked like soap bubbles, and I hung them above my bed at varying lengths with invisible thread to create the illusion of movement. I initially discovered this ability by accident while staring up at the ceiling.

I began experimenting by focusing on one ornament and making it move while keeping the other three stationary. Then I added a second, and so on. I could make them move forward and backward, side to side, and even in a circle.

Knowing it was possible was another reminder that we’re capable of more than we often give ourselves credit for.

Paula will remember the Spoonbending (how to!) thread.

From her post here:

~~~

I’ve found that when I’m in my head, i.e. writing ‘the list,’ it’s an intellectual exercise. What works best for me is to tune into feeling of the experience and pay attention to the inner knowing signal. It happens naturally, before too much thought gets involved.

I used to feel the sensation in the Dan Tian, the energy center just below the belly button. After a time, it shifted to the heart. Now, the heart center and inner knowing are my main guides.

I bent my spoon and then bent it back with a slight bump.

[DNA]

I don't think too much about UFOs.
I live in an area with no light pollution as such without even trying, like going to and from the car I see them quite a bit.
These being essentially star in the sky level lights and size moving through the sky.
Most are probably man made, some maybe satellites although what I see is usually slow and meandering and from what I understand satellites are usually pretty quick. I've seen Star link a few times and those are pretty darn fast.

Now really good UFOs, where you see a thumb or bigger sized object and it's doing the 90 degrees turns, I used to see those every once in a while when I lived in Phoenix and worked at the foot of South mountain.
My wife saw flying humans at the base of South mountain, like how they see in Mexico City I would have liked to seen that

[petra]

I've never given a thought to UFOs, for me it was alien interference. At first I was like "this is such a big deal" but then it just ends up feeling like no one else is paying attention. It just.. makes sense. I think if I were to ever see a UFO I would be kind of like "oh hello" at this point. Nothing surprises me anymore.

I remember reading about Realm Dynamics in Tom Montalks material and the way I understand it is, there are these separate artificial realms intended for learning. This is why two people can be together and witness different things. I know it sounds kind of out there, but it makes sense to me. We all have different learning experiences and not everybody is in the same "school"

[thepainterdoug]

rgray/ thanks

what i meant by pay your dues is not only spending the time in prep, camera and so on for skywatching, but putting your concentration and intention out to have it happen . I truly believe my intention contributes to my sightings.

this doesnt mean to say that you cant be in the right place at the right time .

[Blastolabs]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)

What are your thoughts?painterdoug

Well, first I want to point out as another data point that I too used to see UFO's almost everyday, and was also "very into it"
I do not see them anymore, at all, despite trying.

I'm not sure if this is due to my intentions or not, but I kinda think those specific entities are not showing themselves anymore. I don't think all the non human entities have left the earth, I just think whatever it was that was showing themselves up the sky so often 1-3 years ago decided to stop.

That seemed like a time where many people we starting to realize that UFO's really exist and are out there.

[AutumnW]

Blastolabs, Maybe the type you are familiar with aren't showing up as much anymore because they've accomplished their objectives. If so, I wonder what their goal(s) was.

[Rizotto]

UFOs used to have more 'close encounters' with humans, but that doesn't seem to be the case anymore, i.e. for the past 20 years or so we haven't heard too many reports of close encounters. It's not only that it is an elusive phenomenon, there also has been a shift in our perception of these objects during that time, as if the phenomenon is dependent on our consciousness.

Jacques Vallee's book "Passport to Magonia" relates stories of close encounters decades ago, or even a hundred years ago, where the descriptions of objects and their occupants evolved over time, and even seem to mirror the observer's own mental construct. Not only that, but with a slightly more advanced technology, as if mirroring existing intuitive knowledge not yet manifested into consciousness. (Not sure that sentence makes sense, but I tried.)

As Jacques Vallee writes: "We cannot be sure that we study something real, because we do not know what reality is; we can only be sure that our study will help us understand more, far more, about ourselves."

[Aleksandr]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
When I was jacked into seeing ufos and stuff in the sky, I was always looking. I was always thinking about it and I most always had a camera with me.  After seeing and documenting many of these objects, I eventually tired of it and the entire topic.   

I knew it was real, but the rest of the above board world didn't react.

Once I found NDE stories and was uplifted by reading them, I kinda switched over.
Some time after, I noticed, not only do I not ever see anything up there anymore, I feel like I wont see anything.and  that's the point.. 
  
I'm convinced it's something to some extent, connected to intention, will, and consciousness.   you have to join the vibration by paying your dues, being sincere.
Ill add some of my images upon request.

What are your thoughts?painterdoug

That is because you were not seeing UFOs; you were seeing paranormal phenomena. Furthermore, if you continue to think about it and desire another encounter, your wish may very well be granted, and you will start seeing it again. And it will appear in the exact form you expect to see. If you want to see UFOs, there will be UFOs; if you want to see angels, there will be angels.
However, if you start visiting New Age psychics or practicing so-called "raising your vibrations," your brain will be 'broken'. Your original personality will completely vanish, and instead of your own "I," an anomalous entity will occupy your body. This entity will then go around telling everyone how you have achieved enlightenment, increased your spirituality, and raised your vibrations. And it will enthusiastically recommend that everyone else do the exact same thing.

[thepainterdoug]

all i can say is when i was interested, and actively looking, investigating, etc, I saw them. Many of them, more than most anyone I knew. There are ufo investigators, such as Richard Dolan who have never seen one. So what does that say? Im sure he would have plenty of intention.

And they were in the sky, and unidentified, so unidentified flying objects. So be it paranormal phenomena or ufos doesn't change it for me.

its not any kind of solid method. I feel if i wanted to start up again, it would take some welling up inside me to see them again .

[thepainterdoug]

I have shown these before. Here are several of the daytime objects I have photographed . Of course, my observations, how they appeared , disappeared , and all other aspects matter.
if curious, just ask .
pd

[Aleksandr]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
all i can say is when i was interested, and actively looking, investigating, etc, I saw them. Many of them, more than most anyone I knew. There are ufo investigators, such as Richard Dolan who have never seen one. So what does that say? Im sure he would have plenty of intention.

And they were in the sky, and unidentified, so unidentified flying objects. So be it paranormal phenomena or ufos doesn't change it for me.

its not any kind of solid method. I feel if i wanted to start up again, it would take some welling up inside me to see them again .

"...if you value your life or your reason keep away from the moor."
— Arthur Conan Doyle, The Hound of the Baskervilles

[thepainterdoug]

Aleksandr/ are you suggesting my observations are putting me in danger? With all the so called new releases of objects, footage and disclosures, it seems my images would not be stirring up any concern.
Or is it not the images, more me? How dare I observe! lol

I believe my image (the six compiled ) is quite something, pre dating any of the tic tac stuff yet squared roundish objects. Sorta like tic tacs lol
Those are all variations of the same still appearing object in the sky. It sat still for 15 min like a bright star in the daytime sky. I only realized it was changing shape when the pics were downloaded and enlarged.

Yet so few have taken any interest in them .

hmm, guess you gotta be somebody .

HEY BILL, you can bend spoons?? tell me more

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
HEY BILL, you can bend spoons?? tell me more

Ha. Yes! And so can Paula (RunningDeer). There's an exact method to it, and it's all described on this thread.

• Spoonbending (how to!)

[Aleksandr]

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
Aleksandr/ are you suggesting my observations are putting me in danger? With all the so called new releases of objects, footage and disclosures, it seems my images would not be stirring up any concern.
Or is it not the images, more me? How dare I observe! lol

I believe my image (the six compiled ) is quite something, pre dating any of the tic tac stuff yet squared roundish objects. Sorta like tic tacs lol
Those are all variations of the same still appearing object in the sky. It sat still for 15 min like a bright star in the daytime sky. I only realized it was changing shape when the pics were downloaded and enlarged.

Yet so few have taken any interest in them .

hmm, guess you gotta be somebody .

HEY BILL, you can bend spoons?? tell me more

This is not as harmless as many think.

On the morning of June 20, 1972, while inspecting the tracks near Torrebonica station, Spanish railway workers discovered a horrific scene. A decapitated corpse lay on the rails. A second headless body had been thrown to the side by a train. On its chest was a white note: "The extraterrestrials are calling us." The police established that the men killed under the wheels were ufologists Joan Turu Valles and Jose Rodriguez Montero. After the deaths of the ufologists, letters previously sent by Montero began to arrive. They stated that he had "entered into direct contact with beings from space" and was planning to fly away to Jupiter. To achieve this, it was necessary to get rid of the container of flesh that prevented the spirit from overcoming Earth's gravity.
—"Under their influence, we were slowly changing, and now we understand that we have become alien to this planet,"—read one of the letters.
—"They are calling us. We are setting off on this journey with the greatest pleasure."
The ufologist Marius Lleger, who received this letter, also attempted suicide and spent a year in a psychiatric hospital. Pathologists discovered that Montero had starved himself for a long time before his death. This time, those who established contact with him did not wait for a natural conclusion and ordered him to lay his neck on the rails. Joan shared his fate.

[Aleksandr]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by thepainterdoug (here)
HEY BILL, you can bend spoons?? tell me more

Ha. Yes! And so can Paula (RunningDeer). There's an exact method to it, and it's all described on this thread.

• Spoonbending (how to!)

There is the following fragment in Elena Perepelkina’s book. Once, one of her hidden interlocutors told her:

—"Throughout the entire Cosmos, everyone fights against the paranormal, and only you on Earth are like, "studying" it. And you demand more and more miracles for study."

[thepainterdoug]

Im 73 and I have learned and forgotten more than most will ever know. And with that, I know nearly ,if not, nothing


Bill or admin. how do I empty / delete my photos for attachments