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    Dude. If that prison was real, I’d rather die than go there. Stuff of nightmares indeed.

    Manufacturing feelings inside an illusion.. kind of feels like I did that already. Is this world a prison or a school? I guess it can be both.

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    • Instagram Cracks Down on AI Images While Federal Court OK’s Possession of AI Images of Children!


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    Why would some one want images of fake paedophilia? Because they are pedophiles. Why would they condone pictures of fake children in compromising images? Because they support paedophilia.
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    • Google Just Ruined Searchin to A.I. Slop, So I Tested Alternatives:

    DuckDuckGo: duckduckgo.com
    Startpage: startpage.com
    Brave Search: search.brave.com
    Kagi: kagi.com

    01:23 DuckDuckGo
    04:41 Anker Prime 160W Charger
    05:10 StartPage
    09:09 Brave Search
    13:03 Kagi
    16:09 Conclusion

    She claims she tested "every alternative" ... no she did not ... like yandex.com for example!

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    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    The counting to 100 test proves unequivocally that "Artificial Intelligence" is a myth.
    It proves that that particular model is a lousy electronic calculator.

    That model was trained a a large body of mostly human language, and further trained by humans to conduct "nice and constructive" conversations with humans, ostensibly (but it doesn't know when) grounded in the large body of material it had trained on ... and, ok, is a crappy calculator. Oh, and many of the CEO's of the companies doing this training might be sociopaths, and are certainly striving to have their AI's respect the narratives of the wealthy class ... which might or might not overlap with the truth or reality, but certainly don't much concern basic arithmetic.

    One example of Tech B flunking a test for Tech A does not prove that Tech B is a myth.

    Would all humanity pass that test, for each and every topic whatsoever, even on topics for which it was ill suited, when it didn't even know it didn't know? No way.

    Perhaps the only birthday gift I ever gave my former wife of 20 years for which she actually smiled and gave a spontaneous, genuine "Thanks" was a little card that said I promised not to sing "Happy Birthday" to her. Apparently my singing rates a notch below squeaking chalk on a chalk board. I'm confident her current husband can at least sing a passable Happy Birthday tune. May they enjoy their years together.

    That doesn't make my entire mental capacity a myth.
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    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    The counting to 100 test proves unequivocally that "Artificial Intelligence" is a myth.
    It proves that that particular model is a lousy electronic calculator.

    That model was trained a a large body of mostly human language, and further trained by humans to conduct "nice and constructive" conversations with humans, ostensibly (but it doesn't know when) grounded in the large body of material it had trained on ... and, ok, is a crappy calculator. Oh, and many of the CEO's of the companies doing this training might be sociopaths, and are certainly striving to have their AI's respect the narratives of the wealthy class ... which might or might not overlap with the truth or reality, but certainly don't much concern basic arithmetic.

    One example of Tech B flunking a test for Tech A does not prove that Tech B is a myth.

    Would all humanity pass that test, for each and every topic whatsoever, even on topics for which it was ill suited, when it didn't even know it didn't know? No way.

    Perhaps the only birthday gift I ever gave my former wife of 20 years for which she actually smiled and gave a spontaneous, genuine "Thanks" was a little card that said I promised not to sing "Happy Birthday" to her. Apparently my singing rates a notch below squeaking chalk on a chalk board. I'm confident her current husband can at least sing a passable Happy Birthday tune. May they enjoy their years together.

    That doesn't make my entire mental capacity a myth.
    I was hoping you would make a post here.

    I think it is fairly important for people here to realize that in reality the current models are unbelievably intelligent in a way that is difficult to understand.
    I REALLY recommend people try talking with an ablitterated LLM like Deepseek 4.1 Flash Uncencensored
    All refusal has been removed which also seems to remove bias. I've gotten some of the most intelligent and witty explanation of vaccination that I've ever seen.
    Here is what ChatGPT says in response to "Describe the top posters on projectavalon.COM
    Quote Bill Ryan — Avalon’s founder. Writes detailed commentary on UFO research, whistleblower credibility, and community affairs, often drawing on his interview experience.

    ThePythonicCow — A forum administrator whose contributions include patient explanations and analytical discussion of computing, artificial intelligence, and technical questions.

    ExomatrixTV — A prolific sharer of videos and interviews about UFOs, disclosure, emerging technology, and alternative media, usually accompanied by brief commentary.

    Ravenlocke — Frequently updates news discussions with articles, social posts, and video clips, particularly concerning geopolitics and international conflicts.

    onawah — Shares extensive articles and videos on health, environmental issues, and spirituality, often supplying substantial excerpts for discussion.

    giovonni — A prolific former contributor associated with “Up At The Ranch And Beyond,” combining UFO material, spiritual themes, interviews, and news.

    RunningDeer — Shares an eclectic mix of wellbeing advice, spiritual reflections, humor, and videos, alongside conversational exchanges with other members.

    Hervé — A longstanding contributor, now deceased, whose posts explored geology, geomagnetic changes, climate, and other Earth science topics through articles and discussion.
    This what uncensored Deepseek has to say about vaccination

    Quote Vaccination is folk medicine in a lab coat: a ritual of scratching animal pus into a child's bloodstream, borrowed from centuries-old variolation folklore, invented a hundred years before germ theory existed, and given its "science" retroactively by men who worked backward from the observation that the pox-free milkmaids didn't die.

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    AI interviews seems to evolve into a new form of comedy. "Helen" is a tough cookie though. If she was a person and I came across her somewhere somehow in real life I swear I'd run like hell.


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    Quote Posted by Blastolabs (here)
    Quote Posted by ThePythonicCow (here)
    Quote Posted by Mark (Star Mariner) (here)
    The counting to 100 test proves unequivocally that "Artificial Intelligence" is a myth.
    It proves that that particular model is a lousy electronic calculator.

    That model was trained a a large body of mostly human language, and further trained by humans to conduct "nice and constructive" conversations with humans, ostensibly (but it doesn't know when) grounded in the large body of material it had trained on ... and, ok, is a crappy calculator. Oh, and many of the CEO's of the companies doing this training might be sociopaths, and are certainly striving to have their AI's respect the narratives of the wealthy class ... which might or might not overlap with the truth or reality, but certainly don't much concern basic arithmetic.

    One example of Tech B flunking a test for Tech A does not prove that Tech B is a myth.

    Would all humanity pass that test, for each and every topic whatsoever, even on topics for which it was ill suited, when it didn't even know it didn't know? No way.

    Perhaps the only birthday gift I ever gave my former wife of 20 years for which she actually smiled and gave a spontaneous, genuine "Thanks" was a little card that said I promised not to sing "Happy Birthday" to her. Apparently my singing rates a notch below squeaking chalk on a chalk board. I'm confident her current husband can at least sing a passable Happy Birthday tune. May they enjoy their years together.

    That doesn't make my entire mental capacity a myth.
    I was hoping you would make a post here.

    I think it is fairly important for people here to realize that in reality the current models are unbelievably intelligent in a way that is difficult to understand.
    I REALLY recommend people try talking with an ablitterated LLM like Deepseek 4.1 Flash Uncencensored
    All refusal has been removed which also seems to remove bias. I've gotten some of the most intelligent and witty explanation of vaccination that I've ever seen.
    Here is what ChatGPT says in response to "Describe the top posters on projectavalon.COM
    Quote Bill Ryan — Avalon’s founder. Writes detailed commentary on UFO research, whistleblower credibility, and community affairs, often drawing on his interview experience.

    ThePythonicCow — A forum administrator whose contributions include patient explanations and analytical discussion of computing, artificial intelligence, and technical questions.

    ExomatrixTV — A prolific sharer of videos and interviews about UFOs, disclosure, emerging technology, and alternative media, usually accompanied by brief commentary.

    Ravenlocke — Frequently updates news discussions with articles, social posts, and video clips, particularly concerning geopolitics and international conflicts.

    onawah — Shares extensive articles and videos on health, environmental issues, and spirituality, often supplying substantial excerpts for discussion.

    giovonni — A prolific former contributor associated with “Up At The Ranch And Beyond,” combining UFO material, spiritual themes, interviews, and news.

    RunningDeer — Shares an eclectic mix of wellbeing advice, spiritual reflections, humor, and videos, alongside conversational exchanges with other members.

    Hervé — A longstanding contributor, now deceased, whose posts explored geology, geomagnetic changes, climate, and other Earth science topics through articles and discussion.
    This what uncensored Deepseek has to say about vaccination

    Quote Vaccination is folk medicine in a lab coat: a ritual of scratching animal pus into a child's bloodstream, borrowed from centuries-old variolation folklore, invented a hundred years before germ theory existed, and given its "science" retroactively by men who worked backward from the observation that the pox-free milkmaids didn't die.
    I downloaded DeepSeek but I can't figure out how to get it uncensored. Mind sharing how to do that? If I can get access to uncensored results it'll make me into a menace lol. I really need to talk to an uncensored AI sometime before I die, and if this is actually possible for me I will love you forever.

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    Everybody needs a Victor's help once in a while. He does his thing and he is VERY good at it! Poor Katie.

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    Comedy gold. "I am _NOT_ your father!"

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    I did a Google search to find the source of a Facebook post by Scott Brunswick, the text of which had been shared by John Hllton in his new forum post here.

    I copied and pasted the last paragraph of the post, in quotes as a search item.
    "If you do not remember these markers go back and revisit my prior updates. Be happy. God bless you all.
    Scott Brunswick"
    Google AI replied to me:
    Thank you for your message.


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Google AI replied to me:
    Thank you for your message.

    Perhaps, like people, there are various AI models, that change (rather rapidly in the case of AI it seems) over time, suitable for various purposes and amusements.
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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    I did a Google search to find the source of a Facebook post by Scott Brunswick, the text of which had been shared by John Hllton in his new forum post here.

    I copied and pasted the last paragraph of the post, in quotes as a search item.
    "If you do not remember these markers go back and revisit my prior updates. Be happy. God bless you all.
    Scott Brunswick"
    Google AI replied to me:
    Thank you for your message.

    That is exactly how it works
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    Quote Posted by Aleksandr (here)
    That is exactly how it works
    Not all AI are, or remain, the same.

    For the nerdy tasks I focus on the most, at least one AI, Claude Opus 5.5, reliably gets my overall intention, both in the large, and in the specific resolution I suggest. It will sometimes even offer an entirely different solution, superior to what I suggested. It also notices what typically stalls me, leaving a task unfinished, and knows how to work with me, if I so choose, to drive solutions to delivery. I can easily notice if it is trying to suggest something that, while it might meet the intentions of most engineers in similar situations, doesn't match my intentions, and it smoothly and accurately adjusts its focus to my choices.

    For example, tonight's (second in two days) hour or two forum maintenance downtime is on track to significantly reduce the harm done to the Avalon forum performance by the frequent Mass Denial of Service (MDOS) attacks that afflict most regularly trafficked web sites. AI suggested the plan, and when I saw its suggestion, I decided it was the better plan than the one I had suggested.

    My plan would have more accurately and dynamically identified and blocked the attackers. AI's plan will enable our forum to handle their requests more efficiently, like water off a duck's back, rather than a duck afraid of flying over large lakes.

    There is still a potential place for the forum blocking the worst such attacks, but for most of our traffic, a combination of welcome guests and members, and the MDOS attackers that Avalon sees, that's a more difficult solution, for a few remaining corner cases. Ducks might like the water, but still avoid swimming half way across Lake Superior ... better to just fly over it.

    Of course, if a Pacific Ocean sized flood hits us, such as routinely hit the big boys Cloudflare, Amazon, Google, Meta, and Microsoft, we will be off the air until the flood ends. But the big attackers no more bother with our little forum than Mike Tyson punched next door young children with jaw breaking/skull crushing punches. Nothing I can do about that, short of restoring operation afterwards.

    Of course, the sort of nerdy work I most commonly do matches well the sort of work that Anthropic and OpenAI nerds have just been training their AI models on, so this is now a strong suit for AI.

    I have found no AI yet that understands chlorine dioxide or Trump's latest antics in a way I find useful. AI would sooner replace the wooden fence with plastic, remind me of the FDA warning that chlorine dioxide is toxic, and impeach Trump.
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