Life is not a game

[jorr lundstrom]

This is one of the biggest problem in this game. Its hard to imagine that people

can be somegalomaniac and sinister, as to do those things

to others. But its totally clear that there is and has always the kind of people who

are capable of doing these things. The difference today is only that the tools get

stronger and stronger.

The question is wot to do. If you want to stop it ultimately you have to take out

the one who doesit. If I do that they say I become like them. But its not true. I

have to live with it because I have aconscience, which they havent.

And that makes a great difference. They are born constructed in

totally different manner than the almost everybody else. They are born without

the ability tofeel empathy and compassion and they cant evolve it either.

What most see as a tragedy they see as an asset,

not be burdened by emotions and love. This way of functioning is inherited by

recessive genes, thats whyblood-lines are so important.

But the ratio of this way to function is increasing among humans the whole time.

That depends on that most with these genes dont belong to any specific blood-

line and spread the genesat random. Its a horrible situation.

Life is not a game because life has no rules, only games have.

But today life has been turned into a game and as long as we live

our lives as if it was a game all this will continue.

So we can start with breaking the progamming that makes us

aproach life as if it is a game.

[Newlyn]

Oh i get your point here Jorr, and thanks for your words! I can agree, it's a responsability we have to take.

But you can not convince me that life is not a game, or a joyous play, because that's exactly what it is as it's best!

Love!

[panopticon]

G'day Jorr,

I agree with your point and appreciate Newlyn's as well.
To play at work, work at play and treat every moment as a child staring in wonder at the glory of the world.
That is play.
There are no rules other than those created by others to control the games.
To control the joy and the fun.
To view the world through the eyes of a child doesn't mean being "simple" or easily controlled.
Quite the reverse.
The child mind is easy to find so why not go looking for a bit?
Skip through puddles. Sing nursery rhymes. Play, play, play I say, Play, Play Play!

Enjoy the chaos, throw off laws, discard expectations for but a moment and discover true freedom.

It's almost 1 am so enjoy the game while I "sleep the sleep of the just".

Kind Regards,
Panopticon

[jorr lundstrom]

Please dont mix games with playing. Then you do wot they want you to. To mix play with a game

is a program. In a game there are rules, and when making you belive that life is a game, they

supply the rules we are suppose to follow. If we follow their rules we are regarded to do the

right thing. In a game there are winners and losers. In life we are all winners. We are all the

sperm who won the race, who reached the egg first. It was a gigantic deed. We won life. No need

for more competitions after that one.

In a play there are no winners, no losers, its a dynamic play of energy. So play and enjoy life.

Love and carrots on me.

[Odah]

This is a game .. YOu first have to figure out why you are playing to get a clue of what the real rules are. The current phase of the game is don't wake up from it . If you are still in the phase where you think killing of those who are in control will do any good. You are not awake. Plannign to kill them doesn't make you like them .. IT keeps you exactally how they want you to be. You don't even know who the real players in control of this are .. they are quite hidden and quite spread out..

The only way to win this game is to figure out how to not play again.

[Rog]

Personally I think taking a life is not inherently wrong, it's an undeniable aspect of life. The situation with all of this though is that you can't think any of us are in an actual position to accomplish much with those tactics. The truth is if these guys have a world of 7+ billion bent over their knee, I'm sure they've gone through all the motions to construct a labrynth of unknowable/unprovable culpability in between us and them.

There's a difference between defending your own life or someone else's against someone who has physically made their intentions and actions apparent to you, and someone who's hiding underneath "1000" layers of shadow. There could be a never-ending trail of tears and blood before anything is resolved.

Another aspect of this arguement is in the metaphor of a self-defense scenario where there's a you that's an Aikido master and a you that's not.

The Aikido master knows how to resolve the situation non-violently, those skills and techniques are on the forefront of his consciousness. For him he has the options to react violently or non-violently.

Whereas the average defendant has the choices of "get busy living, or get busy dieing", to put it poetically.

Some now might reference the story of what I believe was either a Tibetan or Shaolin monk defying some comeabout general. To paraphrase it went along like.....

Gen- "Do you have any idea who I am!? I could put a blade through your stomach and none would stop me!"
Monk- "Do you have any idea who I am? You could put a blade through my stomach and I would not stop you."

Some might see this and think, "Oh man, that guy's enlightened." I see it and think "What an arrogant pr..." Holding his consciousness over the head of the general in the same exact egoic manner as the general holds the blade.

This whole predicament isn't just about our own "frequency" or "level" of consciousness, it's about sharing a planet with those who wish to atleast temporarily destroy it and us. And us shaking off our fears of what it means to be alive in this dimension.

Think of the difference between a $5 and $50,000 investment gone right or wrong. It's not the amount of money that makes the investment right or wrong, it's the specificness of the environment of the situation and how you percieved it to be compared to how it actually was. The degree of investment is what weighs upon you afterward. I don't say this to objectify life in any way, I just think too many people are wrongly put-off by this aspect of life.

It's known or should be known that most situations created by TPTB are done not for singular reasons but for a multitude. So along with making lots of profit and other gains, I believe the wars we have experienced from Iraq, Vietnam, back to the 100 years war and beyond involved traumitizing us against the act of violence as something to mend a situation. Very, very similiar to Hitler having German's small arms taken away; you're minimizing the effective means by which the just people may defend themselves. There's a large difference between a war between masses and an individual or smaller group of individuals receiving what's coming to them for their unrelenting sabtoge of society.

Wow, heh, I ended up writing alot.

My actual opinion is that we should take it upon ourselves to become the Aikido masters, but not for a moment should we walk with shame or doubt if we are not capable of that in the moment we must respond.

[Davidallany]

I think that the most important thing in the game of life is to not to be selfish, to help others without expecting a reward and be honest with ones self.

[Anchor]

Define game: http://www.google.com.au/search?q=define:game

# a contest with rules to determine a winner; "you need four people to play this game"
# a single play of a sport or other contest; "the game lasted two hours"
# an amusement or pastime; "they played word games"; "he thought of his painting as a game that filled his empty time"; "his life was all fun and games"
# animal hunted for food or sport
# (tennis) a division of play during which one player serves
# (games) the score at a particular point or the score needed to win; "the game is 6 all"; "he is serving for the game"
# the flesh of wild animals that is used for food
# plot: a secret scheme to do something (especially something underhand or illegal); "they concocted a plot to discredit the governor"; "I saw through his little game from the start"
# the game equipment needed in order to play a particular game; "the child received several games for his birthday"
# your occupation or line of work; "he's in the plumbing game"; "she's in show biz"
# crippled: disabled in the feet or legs; "a crippled soldier"; "a game leg"
# bet on: place a bet on; "Which horse are you backing?"; "I'm betting on the new horse"
# frivolous or trifling behavior; "for actors, memorizing lines is no game"; "for him, life is all fun and games"
# willing to face danger

Now, does life resemble any of those definitions?

Winners, loosers, amusement ?

Perhaps life is not a "game". Perhaps it is more like a "play" in which we are the scriptwriters.

John..

[jmj12]

Life is a game for sure!! how you play is up to you, you must become selfish, for before you can help others one should first provide self needs.GREED/DESIRES/WANTS, no thats another matter he who thinks he is more than another needs to look inside

[Maria Stade]

Posted by jmj12 (here)
Life is a game for sure!! how you play is up to you, you must become selfish, for before you can help others one should first provide self needs.GREED/DESIRES/WANTS, no thats another matter he who thinks he is more than another needs to look inside

A real spirit killer !

[thewebkid]

I gotta respond to this.

I LOVE your post. It speaks to the reality that we live in that we are continually met with a reality that is counter to what we feel inside our essence - inside our bones.

That we are lonely, disconnected, fragmented, victimized... this is what culturally confronts us daily.

We also have a mind that avoids pain. It is genetic. We avoid pain by being passive aggressive, pretending everything is dandy when life SUCKS, and we say that that is a GAME.

The real game is an inner one.

One we tussle with on the interior.

We really ARE connected, loved, cherished, adored, and have infinite power. We know it at the core of our being. How the HELL do we bridge that within the exterior world?

Now that is a game.

I have written extensively about this in my writings about the anti-well-being machine and the tree fruit mixup (click on my buttofcosmicjoke link in my signature).

I am soooooo learning to bridge this iteratively. WE can pull this together my friends. New seeds have been sown and the harvest is closer and closer. Stay open. The fun is about to begin.

Feel it. Know it.

Thank you for your authenticity. Sending warmth and love to anyone who happens to read this thread (yes you, silly reader)...

[FrankoL]

Life is a hidden game. Indeed there are a lot of rules. The funny thing is that you cannot step away from them. Game rules are that strong. I am sure you have notice them so far. Anyhow in POV it is better to play the game than stay apart and watching it to unfold.

[Icecold]

Part of the Program.......The Game of Life





The modern game consists of a track on which players travel by spinning a small wheel with spaces numbered 1 through 10 located in the middle of the board. The board also contains small mountains, buildings, and other three-dimensional objects. Playing pieces are small, colored, plastic automobiles which come in red, blue, white, yellow, orange, and green; each car has six holes in the top in which blue and/or pink "people pegs" are placed throughout the game as the player "gets married" and has or adopts "children". Some "early modern" editions have eight automobiles.
Each game also includes a setup for a bank, which includes play money (in denominations of $1,000, $5,000, $10,000, $20,000, $50,000, and $100,000), insurance policies (automobile, life, fire, and/or homeowners' insurance depending on the version), $20,000 promissory notes and stock certificates. Other tangibles vary with the game version.

Rule Enforcement
Factor I
As in every social system approach, stability is achieved only by understanding and accounting for human nature (action/reaction patterns). A failure to do so can be, and usually is, disastrous.

As in other human social schemes, one form or another of intimidation (or incentive) is essential to the success of the draft. Physical principles of action and reaction must be applied to both internal and external subsystems.

To secure the draft, individual brainwashing/programming and both the family unit and the peer group must be engaged and brought under control.

The Game Pieces:

Factor II - Father
The man of the household must be housebroken to ensure that junior will grow up with the right social training and attitudes. The advertising media, etc., are engaged to see to it that father-to-be is pussy-whipped before or by the time he is married. He is taught that he either conforms to the social notch cut out for him or his sex life will be hobbled and his tender companionship will be zero. He is made to see that women demand security more than logical, principled, or honorable behavior.

By the time his son must go to war, father (with jelly for a backbone) will slam a gun into junior's hand before father will risk the censure of his peers, or make a hypocrite of himself by crossing the investment he has in his own personal opinion or self-esteem. Junior will go to war or father will be embarrassed. So junior will go to war, the true purpose not withstanding.

Factor III - Mother

The female element of human society is ruled by emotion first and logic second. In the battle between logic and imagination, imagination always wins, fantasy prevails, maternal instinct dominates so that the child comes first and the future comes second. A woman with a newborn baby is too starry-eyed to see a wealthy man's cannon fodder or a cheap source of slave labor. A woman must, however, be conditioned to accept the transition to "reality" when it comes, or sooner.
As the transition becomes more difficult to manage, the family unit must be carefully disintegrated, and state-controlled public education and state-operated child-care centers must be become more common and legally enforced so as to begin the detachment of the child from the mother and father at an earlier age. Inoculation of behavioral drugs [Ritalin] can speed the transition for the child (mandatory). Caution: A woman's impulsive anger can override her fear. An irate woman's power must never be underestimated, and her power over a pussy-whipped husband must likewise never be underestimated. It got women the vote in 1920.

Factor IV - Junior

The emotional pressure for self-preservation during the time of war and the self-serving attitude of the common herd that have an option to avoid the battlefield - if junior can be persuaded to go - is all of the pressure finally necessary to propel Johnny off to war. Their quiet blackmailings of him are the threats: "No sacrifice, no friends; no glory, no girlfriends."

Factor V - Sister

And what about junior's sister? She is given all the good things of life by her father, and taught to expect the same from her future husband regardless of the price.

Factor VI - Cattle

Those who will not use their brains are no better off than those who have no brains, and so this mindless school of jelly-fish, father, mother, son, and daughter, become useful beasts of burden or trainers of the same.




Joseph Chilton Pearce writes:

Occasionally we hear of people found chained in attics and such places from infancy. Their world view is either scanty or different for they are always feeble minded at best. In 1951 a child was found in an Irish chicken-house, having somehow survived there with the chickens, since infancy. The ten-year old's long hair was matted with filth; he ate at the chicken trough; roosted with the flock; his fingernails had grown, fittingly, to semicircular claws; he made chicken-like noises, not surprisingly; he had no speech and showed no promise of learning any in the time he survived his rescue.
Forty years ago there was interest in two feral children found in India. They had apparently been raised by wolves. They were taken from an actual wolf den along with some cubs, the older wolves scattering or being killed. One of the children, Kamala they called her, survived for nine years. Only with difficulty was she taught table manners and such niceties as walking on the hind legs. Nevertheless she exhibited a growing awareness of the reward system of her new group, and displayed a strong drive toward such orientation. As with the chicken-child, however, she had missed the formative period of human infant development, and there was no easy or complete going back to retrace the steps. Kamala had formed according to the pattern eliciting response around her during her mirroring [imprinting] period. For her first two years of captivity - or rescue - she howled faithfully at ten, twelve, and three at night, as all Indian wolves do. She would also, in spite of precautions, manage to get at the chickens, rip them apart alive and eat them raw. Only when the new social reward system grew strong enough to outweigh the earlier rewards did she abandon her early training. [The Crack in the Cosmic Egg, 1971]

[jorr lundstrom]

I thank you all posters in this thread. I do not agree with all that is said though.

Of obvious reasons I have to say that if I have clicked the

thank-triangle by your post it just means that I have read it,

nothing more, just a reciept. All other interpretations of my purpose with

clicking the triangle are in the eyes of the beholder.

According to play/game, I still hold for true that life is a play, never a game.

There are forces that apparently want us to approach life as a game.

I dont think its a coincidence that an apparent game is called Playstation.

But if anyone wuold liketo treat their own life as a game I have nothing against it.

Each and everyone may make his/her own choices, of course.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_E9Nu8JinM0

Love and carrots on the house

[Icecold]

Thanks for posting that clip Jorr.

It compliments my post above.

They can say that they bunged on two world wars and invited a bunch of sleepwalkers.

Charming. Can they go for three times lucky or will everybody say, we don't want to play your game any longer.

Piss off, we're staying home in the garden with the chickens and rabbits.

[ulli]

Posted by Icecold (here)
Thanks for posting that clip Jorr.

It compliments my post above.

They can say that they bunged on two world wars and invited a bunch of sleepwalkers.

Charming. Can they go for three times lucky or will everybody say, we don't want to play your game any longer.

Piss off, we're staying home in the garden with the chickens and rabbits.

Lots of chickens and rabbitts everywhere, ever since the abolishment of the draft.

But then comes another disaster (think Katrina) and a new underclass with it, who they can recruit from.

Isn't nowadays every war machine supplied by con-tractors?

[InCiDeR]

[Newlyn]

Posted by jorr lundstrom (here)
I thank you all posters in this thread. I do not agree with all that is said though.

Of obvious reasons I have to say that if I have clicked the

thank-triangle by your post it just means that I have read it,

nothing more, just a reciept. All other interpretations of my purpose with

clicking the triangle are in the eyes of the beholder.

According to play/game, I still hold for true that life is a play, never a game.

There are forces that apparently want us to approach life as a game.

I dont think its a coincidence that an apparent game is called Playstation.

But if anyone wuold liketo treat their own life as a game I have nothing against it.

Each and everyone may make his/her own choices, of course.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_E9Nu8JinM0

Love and carrots on the house

Thank you for this. Joan Baez is a favourite, and always a good choice.

I don't really trust words. Game, Play, and so on. But I really think I understand what you mean.

It's like... you have to be aware that you are playing a game. And that you have been playing a game that you don't like and don't want to support anymore.

Then you realize that you can create. You see who you are, and what you are capable of. And you create your own game, and it becomes a play. You realize connections between you and everybody else, and you don't want to play any selfish game that makes your brothers and sisters suffer anymore.

Just some thoughts.

[jorr lundstrom]

Thank you Newlyn for your ideas on this. I would like to explain my point of view like this and

we will se if its clear enough. Life as such is no game. You can choose to play games in your life if

you so like. We are been taught from early in life to compare, thats okey because in that way

we learn differences and similarities. But then we are taught to attatch values to the differences.

We learn that we are better if we run faster, is better on math, if we get higher marks

in school and so on. So we learn to compete with others. And this program continues through

most peoples life. But a human being is an end to him/herself and dont have to compete with

anyone, not even with him/herself. Competing is a source to a lot of disaster. Love

[Newlyn]

Yes I understand.

It's playing a game you never really chose.