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    OK after hearing/seeing jay weidner's work on 2001/cult of Saturn, i decided to do a little research myself.



    This freaky guy was on the front page of this Saturn cult website

    http://www.communitas-saturni.de/index.html

    it triggered in my mind the original movie vampire, Nosferatu



    For those of you who live in the USA, you might remember the TV show buck rogers, this guy was a space vampire that was trying to suck the life out of all the pretty girls in space.



    I came across this site that some interesting posts by a member called eyecanblackstars

    http://www.symbolicliving.com/forum/...ni-Fraternitus.

    I want to reference this particular quote by eyecanblackstars

    Quote "For instance I just started to think that we can develop our own Po or earthly spirits using sex magic, which normally would have to be selected from a field of ancestor spirits or dead animals, which is a burden. So by using Saturn magic you can develop new earthly ghost spirits to achieve faster evolution. "
    For people who do not know what the po is, it is part of the astral body that regulates the animalistic functions of the human organism. IE breathing, hunger, sex drive etc. Addictions come about because the hunger of the Po becomes so strong that it overrides the higher functions of conscious mind and controls the behavior of the individual. If you want to label a part of your being/ego as being negative, this would be the place to start.

    In the path i practice we are instructed to dissolve the po, if it is not dealt with at some point, it will be more of a detriment as its appetites interfere with the development of detachment and equanimity.

    Now lets say you wanted to forever become part of the ruling class of this world. You would need to cut yourself off from the higher aspects of your being but still remain alive. You would need the Po to become so strong that it can live separately from the physical body and the higher self. Some of the things you can strengthen the po by ?



    Sex magic, ritual sacrifice

    Master jiang spoke of black magicians in Malaysia practicing a form of vampirism on people that was a big problem there. Im not saying these people were Members of a Saturn cult, but the methods and aims are basically the same.

    another quote from EyeCanBlackStars

    Quote All these represent things of ancestors. Ancestors want something and if they don't get it, they curse and hinder the individuals life. These ancestors are selfish, possessive, very skillful, yet not open to reason. These are ghosts, or jinns. They cause suffering, and damage our natural ability to enjoy life.
    Everyone has a energetic connection to their ancestors, but those who are bred specifically in one genetic line, (IE inbreeding) have a stronger connection to their ancestors. Part of the reason the elite inbreed is that their ancestors have a easier time influencing their decision making processes. They can become slaves to the will of their fore bearers.

    Another quote

    Quote Saturn is the basis for racism. Saturn limits our evolution. Earthly spirits do not want us to learn evolution because then they will not resonate well with our bodies and wont be able to control our lives to our detriment or other's detriment.
    and another...

    Quote Sex magic using higher consciousness can create new lower consciousness beings and forms. Sex without higher consciousness leads to earthly spirits being invigorated through sacrifice(sacrifice of sex). Because these beings are under the realm of Saturn, (duties) (bodily processes) (earthly manifestation; which is the collaboration of countless entities and conscious forms) Saturn Sex Magic is the key to evolution. We do not need sex magic for evolution of higher bodies, but if our higher bodies cannot resonate on our bodies or brain enough to guide us, then our ancestor selfish ghost bodies will keep on ruining our lives and evolution.
    This is a very dangerous path, i DO NOT recommend it

    Gonna stop here, i hope people will start looking more into this.

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    Albin Grau the creator of the movie Nosferatu was a member of the cult of saturn

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albin_Grau

    freaky world we live in

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    Quote Posted by bearcow (here)
    OK after hearing/seeing jay weidner's work on 2001/cult of Saturn, i decided to do a little research myself.

    This is a very dangerous path, i DO NOT recommend it

    Gonna stop here, i hope people will start looking more into this.
    All Capricorns are Saturnians, as the sign has Saturn as it's ruler. Self-denying, restrictive, cynical, although fair and just, but not without a lot of finger wagging.
    I just suffered a rather harsh Saturn transit, so I'm still resentful, and wishing to blast those Ringmakers into darkest space...
    once we can stop them doing their mean job we might become free from oppression on our little blue pearl planet.
    The only way I recommend to look into Saturn is with a powerful blow torch....
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    Very interesting I must say. I am waiting for more...

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    Been hearing a lot about the Saturn Cult and it's connections to NASA.

    The Saturnalian Brotherhood or Saturnian Brotherhood or the Cult of Saturn.

    Quote The core of the control over Planet Earth's populace lies in ancient cults. These cults are still in existence to this day. Following the most ancient religions mixed with sexual worship. The main cults are the worship of the Planet Saturn (El), Moon (Isis), Venus (Lucifer) & Sun (Ra). Israel is located on the land formerly known as Canaan. Canaan was the most advanced post-deluvian civilization on Earth. Outstripping both Egypt and Sumer in all areas. Now the center of trade, holy land and soon the Divine Dragon's open 'Latin Kingdom.' When the Luciferian Vatican moves from Rome to Canaan.


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    Part I of the series

    (I personally think there's nothing inherently sinister about hexagrams or pentagrams btw!)
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    All Capricorns are Saturnians, as the sign has Saturn as it's ruler. Self-denying, restrictive, cynical, although fair and just, but not without a lot of finger wagging.
    I resemble that remark
    Out beyond the ideas of right-doing or wrong-doing there is a field- I'll meet you there.

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    Quote Posted by ulli (here)
    All Capricorns are Saturnians, as the sign has Saturn as it's ruler. Self-denying, restrictive, cynical, although fair and just, but not without a lot of finger wagging.
    I resemble that remark
    obviously, if you look anything like the drawing of your Avatar...Saturn archetype...bony, haggart, melancholic, sad, burdened by the weight of the world

    another Saturnian character: Eeyore, the sad donkey in Winnie the Pooh
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    All Capricorns are Saturnians, as the sign has Saturn as it's ruler. Self-denying, restrictive, cynical, although fair and just, but not without a lot of finger wagging.
    I resemble that remark
    obviously, if you look anything like the drawing of your Avatar...Saturn archetype...bony, haggart, melancholic, sad, burned by the weight of the world

    another Saturnian character: Eeyore, the sad donkey in Winnie the Pooh
    Lol You may be getting carried away. It's just a funny drawing (Abe Lincoln clone in his incubator)

    I am a Capricorn but a relatively frivolous one.
    Out beyond the ideas of right-doing or wrong-doing there is a field- I'll meet you there.

    -Jelaluddin Rumi

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    All Capricorns are Saturnians, as the sign has Saturn as it's ruler. Self-denying, restrictive, cynical, although fair and just, but not without a lot of finger wagging.
    I resemble that remark
    obviously, if you look anything like the drawing of your Avatar...Saturn archetype...bony, haggart, melancholic, sad, burned by the weight of the world

    another Saturnian character: Eeyore, the sad donkey in Winnie the Pooh
    Lol You may be getting carried away. It's just a funny drawing (Abe Lincoln clone in his incubator)

    I am a Capricorn but a relatively frivolous one.
    so was Humphrey Bogart, apparently...
    the laughter is hidden within...

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    Think the Red Hot Chili Peppers don't know anything about this? Or maybe it's just Anthony Kedis. Either way, I would say that the lyrics to the song "Blood Sugar Sex Magik" are way deeper in meaning than given credit for.

    Check it out:

    http://www.lyricsfreak.com/r/red+hot..._20114702.html

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    Been hearing a lot about the Saturn Cult and it's connections to NASA.

    The Saturnalian Brotherhood or Saturnian Brotherhood or the Cult of Saturn.

    Quote The core of the control over Planet Earth's populace lies in ancient cults. These cults are still in existence to this day. Following the most ancient religions mixed with sexual worship. The main cults are the worship of the Planet Saturn (El), Moon (Isis), Venus (Lucifer) & Sun (Ra). Israel is located on the land formerly known as Canaan. Canaan was the most advanced post-deluvian civilization on Earth. Outstripping both Egypt and Sumer in all areas. Now the center of trade, holy land and soon the Divine Dragon's open 'Latin Kingdom.' When the Luciferian Vatican moves from Rome to Canaan.

    (I personally think there's nothing inherently sinister about hexagrams or pentagrams btw!)
    I guess I have different criteria for what exemplifies an advanced civilization. What still remains above the sands in Egypt and much of what has been found below the sands in Mesopotamia, (Sumer) is certainly awe inspiring. Perhaps I missed something about Canaan.

    I will agree that the Conquest of Canaan may be one of the bloodiest when it comes to innocent women and children but, El is a particularly sanguine god.

    Saturn and the Grim Reaper are associated.
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    A lot more info on The cult of Saturn here.
    Jay Weidner, Kubricks odyssey and the brotherhood of Saturn. *very interesting IMHO*
    http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...RIR-110306.php
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    Wearing a wedding ring is a tradition that stems from the cult of Saturn,

    worshiping the rings around Saturn.

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    While I cannot say whether this cult exists and is real or not ~ I can say that it represents a great insult to the honor which is due upon Saturn in the Council of Worlds and other high celestial organizations in universes you seem to remember nothing of ~ at this point in time or out of it. There is the very real planet, Saturn, and it represents a very real personage, Saturn, who is as far from evil as it is possible to get ~ and who is highly advanced and benevolent in the Milky Way Galaxy not to mention beloved. Please comprehend that in duality ~ these sort of dark agencies or cults as mentioned here ~ had a role to play and were necessary to define the light itself ~ and we leave all this duality and "evil" behind ~ as we ascend with the Earth ~ and thank the dear lord for that blessing which is upon us now. The very name of Saturn should be joyous ~ as if he were a beloved Grandfather of Earth and all beings upon her ~ because that is exactly who he is and should be respected for things you've forgotten in past eons. Ask for remembrance and it will come to you and be delivered to you by your own higher power. Ask and it is given...now.

    This cult has no value or meaning as we've moved past duality whether you have realized it yet or not. If you pay attention to the measurable pole shifts that are continuing to happen whether large or small ~ it has taken us out of duality and placed us in a mono polarity world. A great relief we can feel within our own light bodies and we should appreciate it as the great progress it is ~ if we can allow the reality of this shift to be realized and acknowledged within our new and improved heart centers. And so it is... Namaste! xoxox

    Note: After watching some of these videos ~ it is even more disgusting to see all that can be made out of lies in the whole cloth! 666 for instance is going from carbon based bodies to crystalline or light bodies ~ to scare the innocents. Gosh. Anything can be made up like this and is simply not true. Here is the real deal:

    Your consciousness embodies the whole of infinity and everything of infinity. And what is consciousness? SPIRIT ONLY. There is nothing but Spirit, therefore everything everywhere is 100% Spirit DESPITE all conceptual (material, physical) form it may take on. Forget form, it is an illusion, a mirage, of the 'human' senses, that is all. Just forget it. Withdraw interest, effort and desire from form. Be Truth, be Spirit. Know that your infinity of Spirit, Truth, Self, is right here where YOU are, because it IS YOU... Consciousness Itself BEING your conscious self.



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    Now lets say you wanted to forever become part of the ruling class of this world. You would need to cut yourself off from the higher aspects of your being but still remain alive. You would need the Po to become so strong that it can live separately from the physical body and the higher self. Some of the things you can strengthen the po by ?
    Sex magic, ritual sacrifice
    Master jiang spoke of black magicians in Malaysia practicing a form of vampirism on people that was a big problem there. Im not saying these people were Members of a Saturn cult, but the methods and aims are basically the same.

    You know, I see a reacurring theme when the Illuminati types are discussed, and that is sex abuse and pedophilia.
    What the hell is up with that?
    Is the practice to destroy the natural energetic protections of the child,,,thus making them an easier convert later on.
    Or is it psychic vampirism and higher energy field destruction of the perpatrater to become ruled by this PO you speak of?


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    Albin Grau the creator of the movie Nosferatu was a member of the cult of saturn
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albin_Grau
    freaky world we live in
    So what other corralatives are there with this saturn cult? I mean, I'm pretty hip and I've never heard of it. Is it related to this whole cult of care thing that Alex Jones ran across in the Bohemian Grove?



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    This is the founder of the Saturngnosis, Gregor A. Gregorius, alias Eugen Grosche. Another follower of A. Crowley.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brotherhood_of_Saturn

    Here is a website to sell all sorts of magical toys based on his creation: http://www.hscti.com/Gregor_A_Gregorius.htm

    In my view, a whole bunch of knowledge, true and false, used for the glorification of the leader, without any regards for the Great Spirit. The path leading right to perdition, sadness and fear.

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    the cult of Saturn is an ancient service to Satan and the fallen angels complete with human sacrifice and sex magick

    the Great spirit destroyed this cult in Caanan but it's still alive






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    Please. I ask that you do not discuss "sex abuse and pedophilia" under the topic of the Cult of Saturn. This would be a terrible mistake and is definitely off-topic. Saturn is a personage and an honored being who should be thought of as the Grandfather of the Milky Way Galaxy. He and the planet as well, have nothing whatsoever to do with sex abuse and pedophilia. These are all well-worn 3D paradigm that is no longer useful and hold us back from the truth of our origins.

    It is a misconception of all things Saturn. I'm just saying you need to be careful about how you attach your 3D constructs on subjects you've forgotten. Saturn is the honored place where all the Councils of Worlds congregate and make decisions that effect the entire Creation. As such, these negative attributes do not apply.

    It's a choice and open to your own interpretation. If you wish to know more, ask your own angels and guides about this matter of Saturn. Ask and it is given.

    Much love! xoxoxox
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    Please. I ask that you do not discuss "sex abuse and pedophilia" under the topic of the Cult of Saturn. This would be a terrible mistake and is definitely off-topic. Saturn is a personage and an honored being who should be thought of as the Grandfather of the Milky Way Galaxy. He and the planet as well, have nothing whatsoever to do with sex abuse and pedophilia. These are all well-worn 3D paradigm that is no longer useful and hold us back from the truth of our origins.

    It is a misconception of all things Saturn. I'm just saying you need to be careful about how you attach your 3D constructs on subjects you've forgotten. Saturn is the honored place where all the Councils of Worlds congregate and make decisions that effect the entire Creation. As such, these negative attributes do not apply.

    It's a choice and open to your own interpretation. If you wish to know more, ask your own angels and guides about this matter of Saturn. Ask and it is given.

    Much love! xoxoxox
    Good ol papa saturn. I can't understand how he ever became the patron saint of sex abuse and pedophilia?
    Does anyone have an idea?








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    Well, I got to kiss his forehead on May 10, 2009 Mother's Day Night and I consider him to be my Grandfather, Saturn.

    He was in a meeting as I've mentioned and I only got a few moments when he came out to see me ~ to do this before he had to go inside the Council and I was required back on Earth. One of the things I said to him was this: "Grandfather, you are still getting a bad rap on Earth as the God of the old Testament." I have no idea where that joke came from but I remember that it was important to me that I say it. You know it was great for a good laugh to him.

    This wasn't a dream but it's not really important whether anyone believes it or not. I'd just like to ask that he be respected. I can tell you he is honored and dearly loved throughout all worlds whether we can remember him or not at this point in time.
    Ep 6:12: For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Even so, let your light shine and keep it real...

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