Mysterious Georgia Guidestones

[Lettherebelight]

Posted by aroundthetable (here)
I'm not a mathematician but i think to take population from say 6 billion to half billion is a reduction.

Lol! Priceless logic, Aroundthetable.

Even if the authors of said 'stones' don't intend to personally execute such a reduction, they are obviously in favour of it theoretically...which would make them guilty parties at least on the mental platform.

Some may find these 'guidestones' attractive, or carrying a valuable message for future generations, etc.

HOWEVER, FRIENDS...

The fact is, they were erected under covert conditions, their origins remain nebulous, no one will come forward and claim with pride responsibility for their creation.
Why hide in dark corners?

This in itself is enough to make an intelligent person question whether the motives for such a metamorphic declaration are of the light.

[witchy1]

Thank you Ted Turner and Agenda 21 (please read other threads re this)

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by aroundthetable (here)
I'm not a mathematician but i think to take population from say 6 billion to half billion is a reduction.

Not necessarily.
What if something happens, such as an asteroid hit that wipes those people out?
Then what they are saying is that they won't let the population climb again.

[aroundthetable]

Oh i see, they did because of a natural disaster. Very nice of the asteroid to be so precise. Who won't let it rise? How?

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by aroundthetable (here)
Oh i see, they did because of a natural disaster. Very nice of the asteroid to be so precise. Who won't let it rise? How?

Don't be dopey, either contribute or go play tiddley winks.
Or something.

[aroundthetable]

hmm............

[shybastid]

OK.
A good question came up about who owns the property. There has to be a public record of who owns the deed even for private property,including how many times it changed hands...So someone gave approval to place it on that spot.

Someone said it was commissioned at a local quarry and the owner was a 33rd mason. How do we know that? And NO ONE that works at the quarry has come forward about the actual build?

That alone seems strange.

Quarry guys are hard working blue collar types.

Hard to believe no one that worked there has not come forward,or at the least wouldn't be willing to share what they know.

ALL the quarry workers Masons too? (secret at all levels?)

You would think someone has already researched these leads.

Googling doesn't bring much light or insight.

[shiva777]

we will use pieces of the Georgia Guidestones to build the prisons for the so-called "elite" when their plans backfire...

[iceni tribe]

[blufire]

I know I’m not the sharpest tack in the box or the brightest bulb and I know I have a few screws loose and I absolutely know I have a few marbles rolling around here someplace . . .confounded things won’t stay put. . . . .

But . . . . . exactly how would a group of fallible humans take out several BILLION people spread over the entire planet. . . . all at once???

Even if they took out the population a million at time . . . think about the undertaking of such a feat . . . is this truly possible???

The only information that we have from ancient or past civilizations is the information carved in stone.

Perhaps who ever had these stones carved are subtly trying to warn us of an cataclysmic event . . . .an event that will leave only a few million people. Perhaps “they” are trying to give us “their” suggests or guidelines on how they would build the next civilization. If these stones were erected by the masons, illuminati, or tptb or grand poobah . . . wouldn’t they theoretically know if a cataclysmic event was coming, because they supposedly have all the ancient and current information??? Maybe it is a veiled warning . . . . one of those “he who has ears” kind of rhetoric.

I’m not saying they are correct and I certainly don’t feel these are “commandments”. Perhaps this is a well meaning individual or group that is trying to make a difference . . . in the way they/he/she sees it and have the money and land to have it displayed.

I agree with karelia’s post # 59. . . . .the suggestions seem very pragmatic to me.

Another thought . . . . . isn’t Georgia one of the areas where there has been a lot of UFO action??? Just saying . . . .

Obviously many here on Avalon oppose these “guidelines”. . . . How about if we make our own “Avalon Guidestones”?

[Hervé]

To get an idea as to what's in the stars for this planet, one could start with Velikosky and his "Worlds in Collision." The fact that he was ridiculed and "debunked" by the official academia might be a very strong indication he was somewhat eerily close to the truth. His approach of integrating myths and legends with scientific data is what was followed by the authors of "Thunderbolts Of the Gods."

Then there are these cyclical "extinction" events, every so-and-so years. For a comprehensive study of such, have a look at:

http://www.sott.net/articles/show/12...rom-Extinction-

For the short version, see this:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_CnGRnz9Fi4

Where, for short, the Nemesis/brown dwarf Sun binary plays pool/billiard with the Oort Cloud and sprays the system with a new set of bolides with each new passage... and where the older sets are still at play... compounding the probabilities.

[ceetee9]

I’ve done no research into these stones, but here are my initial thoughts on the stated 10 tenets on how to reshape/rebuild society:

1) Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

This number is the alleged “magic number” that has been bandied about by many groups who believe this is the number of people planet Earth can safely sustain. Oh yeah… and that would enable the ruling class to more easily control and keep enslaved as their worker bees. While it’s clear planet Earth has a finite size and resources and, arguably, 7 billion people may be straining those resources (e.g., we currently have about a billion people who are literally starving to death), I’d like to see some trustworthy scientific evidence as to what the real number that planet Earth can sustain. I do believe we all have a responsibility to not contribute to planetary overpopulation—unless, of course, we have no problem with condemning future generations to live like ants. I don’t subscribe to reducing the population (if necessary) by extermination, however. Attrition and responsible birth controls should be employed. The problem is: who gets to decide what responsible birth controls are and what punishments are appropriate for those who wish to breed like rabbits?

2) Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.

This is from the Eugenics movement started in the late 1800s, practiced by governments around the world (including the United States) and pushed to extreme by Hitler. Who gets to decide which genes are kept and which are removed from our DNA? Do you really trust a government authority (or one of its puppets) to make those decisions?

3) Unite humanity with a living new language.

This sounds like Orwell’s 1984 “newspeak.” While it may sound like a good idea on the surface (i.e., we can all communicate more easily with one another), when you dig deeper you find it’s more about controlling the way people think and communicate than it is about having a common language for communication. We’ve already started this to some degree by bastardizing the English language with the “politically correct” movement. Ooh, I shouldn’t have said that “b” word. Sorry if I offended anyone, not.

4) Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.

NWO concept with more controls (laws and regulations). Who gets to decide which passions, faith, traditions are acceptable and which ones aren’t? I mean, it’s pretty clear from the genius’ who are controlling us now that this doesn’t work out real well.

5) Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

Another NWO concept with more controls. Who gets to decide what’s fair and just? Let me guess: the New World Order! Look at all the “fair” laws and “just” courts we have now in the US. Can anyone see a potential problem here with this statement?

6) Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

World court? Can you say, New World Order? Where would the NWO jurisdiction begin and the nation’s rules end, or, more likely than not, where would the NWO jurisdiction END and the nation’s jurisdiction BEGIN? Who gets to decide? Maybe TPTWB?

7) Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

Totally ambiguous and worthless statement! Again, who decides what is a petty law and useless official? Offhand, given what we have today, I’d say all officials are useless and there are about a billion petty laws. So how does this statement fix that in the future?

8) Balance personal rights with social duties.

Who decides where the balance is and what constitutes a fair trade-off of personal rights for “social duty?” Sounds like more limitless controls to me that would give TPTWB (the-powers-that-will-be) free reign over us.

9) Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.

Finally, an edict that makes sense! Well, you’ve got to dangle at least one carrot if you want the horse to bite.

10) Not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

Great idea! I wonder who gets to decide who/what is a cancer on the Earth and who/what isn’t? What if we carve out a square mile park on every continent for nature, do you think that that would meet the intent of this statement?

For me, these ten tenets for the NWO are just that—tenets for the NWO. No wonder the creator wants to remain anonymous.

We really have to start thinking outside the box. By now we all surely should know what doesn’t work. More rules and regulations and hierarchical controls is not what is needed. How about we start coming up with some fresh ideas that haven’t been tried before that extols the virtues of Love, TRUE Freedom and Respect for all life, nature and things? What a concept! Who knows, it just might work.

[Peacelovinman]

Posted by ceetee9 (here)
I’ve done no research into these stones, but here are my initial thoughts on the stated 10 tenets on how to reshape/rebuild society:

1) Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.

This number is the alleged “magic number” that has been bandied about by many groups who believe this is the number of people planet Earth can safely sustain. Oh yeah… and that would enable the ruling class to more easily control and keep enslaved as their worker bees. While it’s clear planet Earth has a finite size and resources and, arguably, 7 billion people may be straining those resources (e.g., we currently have about a billion people who are literally starving to death), I’d like to see some trustworthy scientific evidence as to what the real number that planet Earth can sustain. I do believe we all have a responsibility to not contribute to planetary overpopulation—unless, of course, we have no problem with condemning future generations to live like ants. I don’t subscribe to reducing the population (if necessary) by extermination, however. Attrition and responsible birth controls should be employed. The problem is: who gets to decide what responsible birth controls are and what punishments are appropriate for those who wish to breed like rabbits?

2) Guide reproduction wisely - improving fitness and diversity.

This is from the Eugenics movement started in the late 1800s, practiced by governments around the world (including the United States) and pushed to extreme by Hitler. Who gets to decide which genes are kept and which are removed from our DNA? Do you really trust a government authority (or one of its puppets) to make those decisions?

3) Unite humanity with a living new language.

This sounds like Orwell’s 1984 “newspeak.” While it may sound like a good idea on the surface (i.e., we can all communicate more easily with one another), when you dig deeper you find it’s more about controlling the way people think and communicate than it is about having a common language for communication. We’ve already started this to some degree by bastardizing the English language with the “politically correct” movement. Ooh, I shouldn’t have said that “b” word. Sorry if I offended anyone, not.

4) Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.

NWO concept with more controls (laws and regulations). Who gets to decide which passions, faith, traditions are acceptable and which ones aren’t? I mean, it’s pretty clear from the genius’ who are controlling us now that this doesn’t work out real well.

5) Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.

Another NWO concept with more controls. Who gets to decide what’s fair and just? Let me guess: the New World Order! Look at all the “fair” laws and “just” courts we have now in the US. Can anyone see a potential problem here with this statement?

6) Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.

World court? Can you say, New World Order? Where would the NWO jurisdiction begin and the nation’s rules end, or, more likely than not, where would the NWO jurisdiction END and the nation’s jurisdiction BEGIN? Who gets to decide? Maybe TPTWB?

7) Avoid petty laws and useless officials.

Totally ambiguous and worthless statement! Again, who decides what is a petty law and useless official? Offhand, given what we have today, I’d say all officials are useless and there are about a billion petty laws. So how does this statement fix that in the future?

8) Balance personal rights with social duties.

Who decides where the balance is and what constitutes a fair trade-off of personal rights for “social duty?” Sounds like more limitless controls to me that would give TPTWB (the-powers-that-will-be) free reign over us.

9) Prize truth - beauty - love - seeking harmony with the infinite.

Finally, an edict that makes sense! Well, you’ve got to dangle at least one carrot if you want the horse to bite.

10) Not a cancer on the earth - Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature.

Great idea! I wonder who gets to decide who/what is a cancer on the Earth and who/what isn’t? What if we carve out a square mile park on every continent for nature, do you think that that would meet the intent of this statement?

For me, these ten tenets for the NWO are just that—tenets for the NWO. No wonder the creator wants to remain anonymous.

We really have to start thinking outside the box. By now we all surely should know what doesn’t work. More rules and regulations and hierarchical controls is not what is needed. How about we start coming up with some fresh ideas that haven’t been tried before that extols the virtues of Love, TRUE Freedom and Respect for all life, nature and things? What a concept! Who knows, it just might work.

That pretty much sums it up for me also.

Number 8 is certainly a red flag to me - this is communitarian policy. What it is saying is that it is selfish to have individual rights and that individual rights should be "balanced out" (in other words "ridden roughshod over") by the "community".

Communitarian thinking is at the core of the so-called New World Order yet so many in the alternative media are ignorant of it. Check out the work of Niki Raapana for more information.

[noxon medem]

- the only sentence, in the guiding, that is repeated twice :

- Leave room for nature - Leave room for nature

In the old days the word "the world" was used to describe what you could see
from the nearest mountain or top, in the regional neighbourhood ...

Have to look closer at the images, but on the english version of the tablets
it seems the number of humans (if that is what it is) happen to be out of
balance and "style" from the rest of the stone and the inscriptions .
And quite a bit out of proportion .

- it's Like they ran out of space, to make enough zeros,
or maybe that number wasn't ment to be there in the first place.
Could be,
Maybe it wasn't realy that well thought thru ..


(img. from post #41)

The whole first paragraph
or

1)Maintain humanity in perpetual balance with nature.

Who knows. ( And we love speculations, a bit addicted, actually )
:-)

Keep humanity under 500.000.000 of what ?
- is that a question ?


(img. from post #36)

would like to know what is written on
the plaque to the left low background in above image.
Anyone who's been there ? (looks like a nice place)

Can be read it in many ways, the text.
It is only guidelines after all, from someone,
or someones, point of view.

(- It's not like it is written in stone, right ?)


Would be interesting to hear or read a direct translation
of the other stones in the monument .
The other languages .
Nuances are allways important. And here are, and
is, at least, four lingual and cultural, perspectives.

Referencepoints

This is an important and interesting topic.
Will try to read more about it, study and search, perhaps .
And possibly expand on this post, or make a new one, later ..

[str8thinker]

(blufire) exactly how would a group of fallible humans take out several BILLION people spread over the entire planet. . . . all at once???

No, no. Softly softly catchee monkey. All you need to do is to ensure that the rate of population reduction (by war, famine, disease, chemical pollution, ionizing radiation, etc.) slightly exceeds the rate of natural increase. Then just sit back and let time take its course. Remember ETs live for several hundred years, so they can afford to wait.

[noxon medem]

Posted by str8thinker (here)

(blufire) exactly how would a group of fallible humans take out several BILLION people spread over the entire planet. . . . all at once???

No, no. Softly softly catchee monkey. All you need to do is to ensure that the rate of population reduction (by war, famine, disease, chemical pollution, ionizing radiation, etc.) slightly exceeds the rate of natural increase. Then just sit back and let time take its course. Remember ETs live for several hundred years, so they can afford to wait.

And Humans can live for many hundreds of lives .
- or so, we know .

So who, if any, has eternity on their side ?

(! that game can go on forever )

Maybe infinity .....
is a better perspective,
or more neutral
in some equations ..

.)

[Maia Gabrial]

*admin-notice* - During the merge of two threads this post is now a collection of 5 posts mixed together. I you recognize your own post please send Ilie a PM with the text so I can properly fix this one*

Even though these stones were only built in the 1970's no one knows who the man, or who the group he supposedly represented, are or why they built this monument. He did say that it was intended to be a clock, compass, and calendar for the new world. The structure was completed in 1980. R.C. Christian stated upfront that his name was a pseudonym.

Anyone with more info on these please share

Original link check it out http://www.unsolvedrealm.com/2011/05...a-guidestones/


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_Guidestones

Brad Meltzer's TV show decoded did a full episode on this I think it is worth a watch.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=PIUtUVSheC4

calz avaretard has a similar thread, and there are others, I am sure. I am purplelama, too.

IMO, the Guidestones are an insult to humanity. Whoever commissioned them knew that people would be offended by the message. I disagree that the message is one of hope for a better world. It's a definite warning that many will die to satisfy this population 500 million objective. It even implies murder to accomplish this. Think about it. Where else would 6 billion people go...?

What these secretive psychos need to realize is that THEIR new world shouldn't fair any better than ours because OURS is being intentionally brought to ruin. Why shouldn't theirs be ruined, too? Universal Law and all that, right? If our new world were built on love and freedom, it would succeed where all the others failed.

I've always wondered why someone hadn't braved the chance to piss on or blow up the stones....Ah, perchance to sling some cow manure at it.... Hence, the police surveillance cameras...

Long live Earth's humanity,
Maia

Posted by pyriel
I agree with Maia. The guidestone are an insult. I've heard a couple different things about maintaining 500million ppl. I think that is BS tho. Earth can handle billions and if we souls get invited to come to earth then why would earth continue to invite if it's to much for her to handle. Yes I've heard BS about it creates a food crisis but I dont believe that either. There is so much land that can be farmed that it would provide the food needed, only problem is farmers are getting screwed all the time. Alot just give up and any new farmers dont make it either.

Now I believe there is a limit but I dont think mother earth has reached it yet but it's getting very close tho.

[karelia]

Hi all,

Newbie mod here. We've merged the threads, and in the process today's five posts accidentally morphed into one post. My sincere apologies.

[Steven]

Hi, you might want to take a look at the Club of Rome. http://www.modernhistoryproject.org/...=FinalWarn08-5

They were and still are promoting ideas of the kind found on the Georgia guide stones. See their first book (1972) Limit to growth http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Limits_to_Growth

Of course, they talk about limiting the growth of the population, not the economical growth which is at the root of the problem.

Namaste, Streven

[greybeard]

My thought is that the stones are there for survivors if something of epic proportion happens and the human race is reduced greatly.
It is perhaps making positive suggestions for the future and may not apply for quite some time.
You could say the Mayans did the same for our present civilization.

Chris