Chemtrail pilot talks

[Rosco1]

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[Fred259]

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As for whether commercial airlines are spraying chemtrails, then you had better believe it.

OK. How is this being done?

Most workers who work 'airside', have families and mortgages to pay for. So if they squeal about what is really going on, then they will quickly find themselves out of a job unable to get back into the aircraft industry.

You must think that everyone else is as disingenuous as you. I personally know many around the world who are exposing a number serious issues. Many more are active who I don’t know, Dan Hanley who is fine is a prime example.

Pilots are censored in what they can reveal with the threat of national security hanging over their heads.

Who told you this? Do you have any evidence of this? Censored by who? A number of avenues are available including this one. http://www.chirp.co.uk

The airlines that are spraying these can easily be proved if you are armed with a good telescope attached to recording equipment. You should be able then to identify the airlines involved.

Which airlines are spraying? Again how is this being done?

Anyone naming any airlines involved would be sued up to the eyeballs!

Quite righty so

[Fred259]

Hurritt Enyeto, I am responding to your post,

It does not take a rocket scientist to see how different 'contrails' look now as opposed to how they used to look.

I agree. I’m also 20 years older than you so I remember how they were in the 1960s. But you have to accept that even in the last fifteen years that the explosion in air travel has caused this massive increase in contrails in the skies.

In the Manchester terminal area for example, you look up and see maybe what you think are lets say fifty contrails, however in reality its more like three or four hundred, and that’s when you leave the house in the morning. By midday another five hundred will have passed over Manchester. You have to appreciate the volume of traffic and the number of engines. That’s what’s causing the contrails.

If you don’t believe this go back fifteen years and look at the passenger traffic stats for all Scottish and Irish airports and compare them to today’s figure. All these flights go over Manchester. Fifteen years ago Manchester had only one runway. Now they have two. Why was it necessary to build another runway?

Contrails quickly disperse (no matter how calm the weather is) these modern 'contrails' last much longer (sometimes for hours and hours) do not disperse in the same manner as normal contrails.

No they don’t. Who told you this Hurritt ? Contrails will form depending on the temperature and relative humidity at altitude. Sometimes they don’t form at all. Sometimes they last all day, particularly in winter.

If you want to understand about contrails read these posts on the International standard atmosphere, and relative humidity. Here are the links. If you do this you will know what you are talking about, until then you dont.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...ard_Atmosphere

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relative_humidity

Here is an article where the U.N acknowledges chemtrails.
Do they still not exist?
http://af.reuters.com/article/commod...69K02U20101021

That’s not what the report says at all. Did you read the report? Where in the report does it say the United Nations acknowledges Chemtrails?

The report in fact refers to Canadian advocacy organisation ETC Group, who are lobbying the United Nations on a number of climate change Geo Engineering issues.

Ps you know full well i didn't mean canisters were actually strapped under aircraft,
would welded/bolted suit you better?

What Canisters are you talking about? I don’t know any aircraft that is fitted with Canisters? Are you sure you are not confusing them for something else? Flap actuator housings for example may look like canisters; they are just a housing containing a motor and hydraulic system to raise and lower flaps. Can you be more specific?

Here is another person who participated in chemtrails being sprayed by commercial jets http://www.carnicom.com/mgr1.htm]*Of course you will say its not an 'official' statement.

No I’m not saying its not an official statement, I have looked at it and studied project cloverleaf, listened to the videos, and frankly I find it hard to report to you what Project Cloverleaf is all about. Yes they say they plan to disperse chemicals from commercial aircraft, and so I get excited we are now getting somewhere, then its more bla bla about the JFK assassination and the Israelis then the Russians followed by Ronald Regan and after forty minutes we are none the wiser. Essentially no detail is forthcoming.

While all this is going on the video is showing a picture of Philippines B767 flying around dumping fuel in a holding stack. Eventually the aircraft lands. Then we have fixed images of drums inside aircraft cabins and other misleading images which are well know and totally unconnected with chemtrailing. This could be all part of a mental framing of the mind coupled with the voiceover. Im sorry that this is all I have been able to report and so really we are no further forward.

What I can say is that during the earlier 9/11 investigation it became very clear many years ago that very powerful forces were at work subverting the truth, and it’s my view that practically every 9/11 information source is way wide of the mark. I did find out a few years ago from colleagues in the US airline industry that GE General Electric were funding this subversion and cover up of 9/11 and just recently it’s been reported again that the same company have again been funding probably much of what you hear and read about on well…. take your pick! If truth be known Boeing Inc could solve every aspect of the 9/11 in a twenty minute press conference. They choose however not to do so.

Again we are faced with accusations, and bold statements without any evidence and so again I have to say where is the evidence that this is going on. Who is filling tanks in commercial aircraft with chemicals? Where are these tanks fitted? What power system drives these pumps? Where is the circuit breaker for this system? Which bus bar is it on? How many gallons are chemicals are loaded? What is the weight? All we seem to get are very forthright statements that Chemtrailing is definitely going on and no supporting evidence from anyone?

How do you suggest we proceed Hurritt Enyeto ?

[Fred259]

Posted by Hiram (here)
This "drunk pilot" story is interesting, as he names some players. I am all but certain that chem-spraying is being done.

Why have we not had good intel on why? There is a huge hole in the whistleblower community as to WHY they are spraying. Why has no reputable source come forth?

Everyone has an idea as to why...many ideas.

We should be asking ourselves the question: why has not one person who is in the know about this come forth in 20 years??

You are answering your own question Hiram. If you have to ask yourself so many Why’s does that not tell you something.

For sure contractors may be involved in cloud seeding or aerial spraying in the US and UK, I happen to know a company in the UK who has a government contract for coastal and oil spill spraying but this does not mean that the whole of the country is being sprayed from commercial aircraft, it’s ludicrous.

The UK military are certainly not involved in this actively they don’t have the resources and frankly I doubt if the US military have either.

No evidence exists of this. No delivery system exists. If this is not the case where is the evidence?

[TigerLilly]

This thread has been very informative and helpful.

As you say Fred there is certainly some spraying but I cannot believe that huge areas of the planet are being regularly sprayed despite all the videos and photos.
I am sure there is crop spraying, and some experiments with weather manipulation, and of course the fuel dumping.

For me the best evidence is what I see around me. I live in rural France, which according to the maps and videos posted is supposed to be regularly sprayed.

Firstly regarding the trails themselves, last week when the weather was wet and quite cold the sky was full of trails . This week has been warm and dry and guess what no trails, not one for days. This would appear to support all that Fred has said about humidity and temperature.

Secondly, its spring and the countyside is bursting with health. This area is quite rural so there is less polution and the people eat a more traditional health diet (less junk food and additives). I look around and I see healthy happy people living in beautiful countryside.
If we were being regularly sprayed with poisons and heavy metals this would not be possible. the trees and fields would be suffering, the people would be ill.
Yes I know there is poor health in cities but thats where the polution and fast food is.

The poisons are everywhere, in our food, homes, drugs, exaust fumes etc, but I see little real evidence that they are being sprayed from the air.

[loveandgratitude]

Dedicated to all The Flatearthers -

Rosalind Peterson of California Skywatch was a certified USDA Farm Service Agency Crop Loss Adjustor working in more than ten counties throughout California. She now spearheads a watchdog group that monitors uncontrolled experimental weather modification programs, atmospheric heating and testing programs, and ocean and atmospheric experimental geoengineering programs Peterson is at the forefront of the chemtrail research field and how the unexplained patterns that scar our skies are “causing detrimental human health effects and environmental degradation.” In this 1-hour plus video exclusive for Prison Planet.tv members, Peterson reveals how she was first spurred to investigate chemtrails after being alerted to them by someone at the Mendocino County Probation Department. Peterson then began to intensely study the phenomenon and note that aircraft producing the trails would circle the county in a clock-like loop, covering the entire area with a cloudy haze in as little as three hours. Peterson cites NASA studies showing that the chemtrails turn into man-made clouds, exacerbating artificial climate change. However, Peterson states her contention that NASA is attempting to cover-up the true nature of chemtrails and convince people that they are a natural phenomenon, a ruse dutifully parroted by top weather and satellite observatories, who as Peterson explains acknowledge the fact that man-made chemtrails are changing the weather yet still label them as natural weather fronts …

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DTxvWLrUeE8

[loveandgratitude]

Air Force Pilot Admits Spraying

People continue to become ill as high levels of chemicals show up in random testing of soil and water supplies, after witnesses photograph KC-135s and KC-10s outfitted with what appears to be a “spraying device.” The circular device is obviously not a refueling probe. A former Air Force pilot tells a reporter, “Yeah, we have them, but were not supposed to talk about it.”

The South Coast Air Quality Management District tentatively identifies the powder wafting down from the sky as “cedar pollen.” But a biologist retorts that December is not the season when cedar pollen normally appears. And when pollen appears in the spring, it does not “explode.” Several witnesses saw a yellow cloud “exploding” in the skies over the Lake Arrowhead area.

According to a press story, community after community continue to report that hundreds of people are becoming ill at the same time-usually following heavy chemtrail activity. Three physicians report an increasing number of patients being seen for similar illness.

“Persistent hacking coughs, upper respiratory and intestinal distress, pneumonia, extreme fatigue, lethargy, dizziness, disorientation, splitting headaches, elevated arthritis symptoms and unexplainable nosebleeds are just a few of the symptoms these doctors have described. These doctors have said they are seeing larger numbers of patients with these complaints during or within days after the times that the physicians themselves have observed a larger number of chemtrails in the skies above mountain communities.”

Pharmacist Ed Burrows is sick himself. Since early December he has been suffering from a respiratory ailment that has includes a “gooey phlegm” that, despite his best efforts, he has been unable to relieve. Burrows said the issue is raising “high concern” for him that his health may be “jeopardized.” Burrows says he “feels that it is directly related” to recent chemtrail activity.

“Our government’s refusal to level with the people indicates that whatever it is they are polluting our environment with must be dangerous and/or unhealthy. There is no need to be secretive if what you are doing is beneficial,” he says. “As the former owner and pharmacist of the Lake Gregory Pharmacy for more than two decades, this is the first time in those 22 years I’ve witnessed so many in our community suffering with respiratory ailments with no apparent cause… ” [Alpenhorn News Dec 7/05]

For more go here: http://willthomasonline.net/willthom...imeline_3.html

[loveandgratitude]

Information For Chemtrail Skeptics
I have been a pilot for 10 years and I believe this information to be IMPORTANT

I am not here to debate, just pass real information concerning chemical spraying from jets known as Chemtrails.

Yes the government constantly denies such a thing and calls people like myself conspiracy nut jobs. But when confronted and caught red handed, they go and say that they are to protect us from (the fraud) Global Warming or the Military will go and say they spray to block out enemy radar and satellites when deploying troops or launching an operation.

I would like anyone believer or non-believer to download this PDF file called HR 2977 The Space & Preservation Act of 2001, in this document the United States Government openly admits the existence of Chemtrails & Weather Control Weapons, also to boot Mass Mind Control Weapons and Techtronic Laser Weapons. Please download this Bill and print this out for your records.

This next document is an article from USA Today from Feb 25th, 2011 titled Can Geoengineering put the freeze on global warming? The article admits that Chemtrails and Geoengineering exist but its done to protect us from Global Warming.

Still not convinced?? What if I told you that there are patents for these very such things. This was released on December 5th, 2010 titled Spraying the Skies: 1975 U.S. Patent for Powder Contrail Generation with patents dating back all the way to March 1st, 1927.


This is just the tip of the iceberg, there are so many other documents to prove such things exist.

I myself am a Pilot for over 10 years and have worked in the aviation field for about the same amount of years; from a professional point of view, I can say that there is a huge difference between condensation (con-trail) and a chemical trail (chemtrail). A condensation trail dissipates as the jet moves along, a chemical trail will stay and expand into man-made clouds used for various weather experiments loaded with toxic chemicals that we breath in on a daily basis.

Chemicals include:
Arsenic, Aerosol, Barium, Depleted Uranium, high levels of Mercury, Aluminum, and several other toxic chemicals. These are a huge cause in most respitory breathing problems in America. I did a beta test on how many cases of an ambulance being called within a 8-hour period from respitory problems, people of all ages infant to elderly that can’t breathe. I worked in a facility in Springfield, MA where I monitored operations and we had a Police-Fire scanner. I monitored an average of 8-13 calls every day within that 8-hour period of people who could not breathe.

Once these chemicals are sprayed, several hours later they descend towards ground level and the human body inhales these toxic fumes. You may ask if wearing a gas mask is safe -- well, you may protect your lungs, but also remember that the plants breathe these chemicals in as well, affecting your foods grown and water you drink along with the already added poison Sodium Fluoride and all its derivatives to the water and GMO food crops incorporated by your friends at Monsanto.

For information or sources relating to Chemtrails & Geoengineering:
www.infowars.com
www.prisonplanet.com
www.activistpost.com
www.weatherwars.info

RELATED ARTICLES:
7 Secret Ways We Are Being Poisoned
5 Global Warming Solutions That Should Make Us Cringe

[B]Please download - PDF File - http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/BILLS-1...07hr2977ih.pdf H. R. 2977

Spraying the Skies: 1975 U.S. Patent for Powder Contrail Generation -
http://www.infowars.com/spraying-the...il-generation/

This is just the tip of the iceberg, there are so many other documents to prove such things exist.

[Fred259]

Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)
Blatant chemtrailing.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=bSSWnXQsgOU

Not crop spraying,
Not cloud seeding,
Not fuel dumping,
So what is it doing if not spraying chemicals?

Cheers
Hurritt

Everything about this video Hurritt Enyeto is one hundred percent fake.

They have even formed an organisation called “Tanker Force” showing you how serious they are, and as you would expect some appropriate music is included for your overall comfort and enjoyment.

They say it’s a KC-10 “Tanker”. They want you to think that the cabin is fitted with “Tanks” just like a petrol tanker, no no no it’s not, the cabin is stripped bare and is empty. No tanks no seats it’s empty. The aircraft isn’t even a KC-10 “Tanker” rather it’s a DC-10 Commercial aircraft.

They want you to think that they sneaked up, like excited children on christmas morning and Oh oh oh Look at this … Proof !! It’s complete utter tosh…. The guys in the front aircraft were watching each and every move of this on here; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traffic...oidance_system

Fifty miles back while they were pretending to sneak up (and tricking you) the traffic collision avoidance system detected the intruder and started tracking it. At 20 miles with the children still sneaking up the TCAS starts to flash like this - flash flash,- flash flash-, flash flash-, it tells you what to do to avoid the intruder, if however you take no action the bell goes off, (its like a school bell) dring dring - flash flash - dring dring - flash flash – if you still continue to ignore the warning it just gets louder and louder. You can’t cancel the bell until the TCAS detects you taking avoiding action.

Don’t fall for this video; it’s made by blithering idiots for idiots, and thankfully that doesn’t include you.

What is quite serious about this video is that evil people exist and publish rubbish like this to scare the population. If you buy into this, they win.

[ponda]

Hiram said:

We should be asking ourselves the question: why has not one person who is in the know about this come forth in 20 years??

As Bills pic suggests some of the spraying might be done by et's and the human pilots that might do the rest are probably being monitored/mind controlled so don't/can't come forward.I think it might be the same sort of reason why no one has come forward re 911 with inside info and why virtually no elite insiders ever come forward....mind control by AI or very large conscious entities or group mind conscious entities.The same goes for all of the people who helped to construct the underground bases and those who work in black ops.It might be all part of the control matrix.That is not to say that all or some of the spraying might be done for negative reasons.

[Hervé]

You want to see something really scarry?

Here is a pause to acknowledge the XWinds pros:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WpurK0gwC08

A YouTube comment:

I flew into Wellington about 12 times. AND NOT ONCE DID I HAVE A LANDING WITHOUT WATCHING MY WHOLE LIFE FLASH BY EYES. WITHOUT MY HEART STOPPING UNTIL I GET TO BAG RECLAIM. WITHOUT MY FINGERS CRUSHING THE ARMRESTS. WITHOUT PROMISING GOD I'LL BE GOOD FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE AND DONATE ALL MY MONEY AND ASSETS TO CHARITY.

Thx

[Fred259]

No no Ponda please Bills Pic is just a joke, he doesn’t really think the ET are chemtrailing, he was just sharing the image, I’m certain; struth I don’t think we really know what that is but it’s probably doing Mach 25. It’s not flying around the world chemtrailing. Red Flag Red Flag!

You say human pilots are maybe mind controlled. Interesting concept, have you ever considered it might be you who’s mind controlled?

[ponda]

Posted by Fred259 (here)
No no Ponda please Bills Pic is just a joke, he doesn’t really think the ET are chemtrailing, he was just sharing the image, I’m certain; struth I don’t think we really know what that is but it’s probably doing Mach 25. It’s not flying around the world chemtrailing. Red Flag Red Flag!

You say human pilots are maybe mind controlled. Interesting concept, have you ever considered it might be you who’s mind controlled?

Yeah i've definitely been mind controlled lots of times.There's direct and indirect mind control.Indirect mind control can be from propaganda,advertising,education,subliminal messaging,laws etc etc.Regarding the pilots i'm talking about direct mind control.You might be surprised just how common it is.NO i can't prove it.

As for the ufo's spraying the skies.I think it's almost certain.No i can't prove it,it's just my opinion.I was googling info on ufo's about 8 months ago and came across a 2000 article from a local newspaper from the Byron Bay area in Oz where a former Israeli airforce guy said that he seen a picture of what looked like a ufo spraying the skies of Byron Bay.The question might be WHY they do it.To dumb us down,poison us,protect us ?

Quote from the article:

BBCIC NEWS: A professional photographer in Byron Bay took two rolls of films last Thursday of a very heavy Chemtrails activity over Byron Bay. When he developed the films he found many 'floating objects' between the Chemtrails. Shlomo, who was formerly with the Israeli Air Force and was teaching UFO's at UCLA, California, inspected the slides and determined that the 'floating objects' are classical UFO's. As the Australian public is not very familiar with the subject of UFO's, Shlomo has decided not to discuss the UFO's locally in order not to confuse the Chemtrail issue at the moment. Shlomo is now negotiating to post these spectacular UFO-Chemtrail photos on the Jeff Rense website soon.

Here's the link:

http://www.worldgathering.net/world/byronbay2.html

[NancyV]

Posted by Fred259 (here)

Posted by Hiram (here)
This "drunk pilot" story is interesting, as he names some players. I am all but certain that chem-spraying is being done.

Why have we not had good intel on why? There is a huge hole in the whistleblower community as to WHY they are spraying. Why has no reputable source come forth?

Everyone has an idea as to why...many ideas.

We should be asking ourselves the question: why has not one person who is in the know about this come forth in 20 years??

You are answering your own question Hiram. If you have to ask yourself so many Why’s does that not tell you something.

For sure contractors may be involved in cloud seeding or aerial spraying in the US and UK, I happen to know a company in the UK who has a government contract for coastal and oil spill spraying but this does not mean that the whole of the country is being sprayed from commercial aircraft, it’s ludicrous.

The UK military are certainly not involved in this actively they don’t have the resources and frankly I doubt if the US military have either.

No evidence exists of this. No delivery system exists. If this is not the case where is the evidence?

You remind me of myself, Fred, about 10 years ago when I used similar arguments with my friends and called them various names like stupid, blithering idiots, ignorant, conspiracy freaks, braindead, new age airheads, etc. I absolutely refused to believe the chemtrail phenomenon so I certainly wouldn't bother to waste my time looking at all the corroborating evidence. It was only about 4 years ago that I began researching it seriously. I finally called a few of my friends about a year ago and apologized to them for ME being the REAL idiot! Hopefully one day you will do the same.

I don't attempt to provide evidence for or argue with close minded people because I know they will do nothing but debunk the evidence and continue arguing. Until they become more intellectually honest and actually spend LOTS of time researching they won't change their minds.... also I don't really care what you or anyone else thinks. Your denial does not change the fact that something is being sprayed... and on a regular basis. We know many of the chemicals. There is ample evidence. I don't think we know the WHY of it completely and there could be several concurrent reasons. You just aren't ready to be open minded. That's your loss so no big deal to me.

Nancy

[ponda]

Here's an image from this link:

http://www.aliendave.com/Chemtrail_photos.html



There's some interesting large scale cloud phenomena on this link:

http://www.cyberspaceorbit.com/radar/utahex.html

[loveandgratitude]

FRED - It is amazing, all these millilons and millions of people who have stepped up and produced documentation, evidence, proof, documentaries, videos, reports, government secret files, wirtten to the congress, newspapers, councils worldwide and we are all lying. Professional people from all walks in life stepping up.

Trying to scare the public. WHAT A JOKE.

You are one voice against millions of people who step up, named themselves, put their own families in danger and themselvesin danger to save the public, help the public become informed and then there is YOU. I ask you now to produce documents, show facts, give evidence if no PUT UP OR SHUT UP. There is only your word for your evidence. PROVE IT. You have not given ONE PIECE OF RESEARCH, PROOF against all the thousands of credible witness, documents and information we have given you.

I AM DONE HERE. I AM GOING TO START A NEW THREAD WHERE DE-BUNKERS ARE NOT WELCOMED. IF YOU WANT TO START YOUR OWN THREAD BY ALL MEANS DO SO. I AM SO TIRED OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU SPREADING LIES AND DECEIT. YOU WILL BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR ACTIONS ON THE DAY, NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. YOU HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED, PREPROGRAMMED OR JUST A PLAIN OLD DE-BUNKER WORKING FOR THE DARK SIDE. WHAT EVER YOU ARE, PUT UP OR SHUT UP. WE WANT EVIDENCE.

[Fred259]

Loveandgratitude, thanks for the videos.

I was wondering if you had any thoughts or opinions as to why it would seem from reports that chemtrailing only takes place on certain days.

[loveandgratitude]

Here where I live, Chemtrailing takes place when the sky only has a few clouds, when the wind is blowing in certain directions. Right over the town. They do it when there are a lot of visitors in town. They do it on weekends when a lot of people come to town. Luckily I believe in sylphs. YES that is right, try to de-bunk sylphs. The etherical spirits trying to help us clean up the posions. This is my last effort to speak with you. you know what I think and you are starting to distrub my peace which is hard to do. Maybe I am aiming my anger at you because I feel you are working with the dark side. Please re consider supporting humanity.

Here in our town we had a meeting, and 2,500 people showed up in support of getting the chemtrail issue known to the general public. We had speakers from all walks of life who have done their homework. The population of our town is 5,000. Go figure.

[Fred259]

Posted by loveandgratitude (here)
Here where I live, Chemtrailing takes place when the sky only has a few clouds, when the wind is blowing in certain directions. Right over the town. They do it when there are a lot of visitors in town. They do it on weekends when a lot of people come to town. Luckily I believe in sylphs. YES that is right, try to de-bunk sylphs. The etherical spirits trying to help us clean up the posions. This is my last effort to speak with you. you know what I think and you are starting to distrub my peace which is hard to do. Maybe I am aiming my anger at you because I feel you are working with the dark side. Please re consider supporting humanity.

Here in our town we had a meeting, and 2,500 people showed up in support of getting the chemtrail issue known to the general public. We had speakers from all walks of life who have done their homework. The population of our town is 5,000. Go figure.

OK, I understand your point of view. Can I first just say Im not trying to de bunk anything I’m only interested in finding the truth. I have been flying for nearly 27 years and I can tell you that no one else in the aviation industry has these views, that dosnt mean to say they are right but I’m very interested in yours and why you should think this way.

When you say chemtrailing who is doing this Qantas?

When you say the chemtrailing takes place “right over your town” would it be possible to expand on this?

Do aircraft fly over your town every day for example?

[loveandgratitude]

Byron Bay Chemtrails - Australians
Are Doing Something About It!
By Gary Opit <garyopit@mullum.com.au>
Environmental Consultant
8-2-00


Environmental Chemtrails Broadcast on 2NR North Coast Regional ABC Radio, Lismore

Byron Bay Chemtrails Information Center (BBCIC), Australia www.mullum.com.au/bb/chemtrails

Open Letter To Janelle Bankroft Senior Environmental Health Officer

Byron Shire Council
02-6626-7000 Mullumbimby NSW 2482

RE: CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING OVER BYRON SHIRE

Dear Janelle,

Thank you for calling Shlomo Arnon, former President of the Upper Main Arm Landcare Group, on 26 July expressing your concerns about the Chemtrails spraying.

A great many members of our community feel that this Chemtrails spraying could pose the most serious public health disaster in the history of Australia. We have already received reports from people suffering from symptoms commonly associated with the Chemtrail spraying. At least one health professional has informed us that he has had an increase in patients complaining of these symptoms.

Shlomo has alerted and informed the Meadows Medical Center, Mullumbimby, some months ago, to the potential respiratory epidemic associated with Chemtrail spraying and requested a Community Medical Watch for an outbreak of classical Chemtrails health problems. Dr. Mark Abriel of Byron Bay has observed and photographed many of these Chemtrails (as have I) on several occasions, and he is also very familiar with the medical symptoms. He is currently researching natural herbal cures for Chemtrail toxicity and we would advise that you to consult him too.

We note that you have already read the article on Chemtrails by Eve Sinton in 'The Echo' and which is available on the internet at the following address : http://www.rense.com/general2/by.htm. We note that you have assured Shlomo that you will read the URLs at the end of Eve s article. We are confident that you now understand that the Chemtrail Phenomena is occurring in all western countries with disastrous results and the observations and photographs listed in http://www.strangehaze.freeservers.com/ prove that it has been occurring in other countries for some time.

Analysis of Chemtrail fallout overseas have shown up a biochemical-warfare soup of toxins, pathogens, fungi, moulds, and genetically-engineered organisms such as Mycoplasma fermentens incognitus and Pseudomonas flourescens. Some of these organisms have been linked to the 'Gulf War Syndrome.' Most are extremely antibiotic resistant. You may note that Councilor Jan Mangelson s own son, Adam, confirmed to Shlomo that he had identical Chemtrails symptoms to those mentioned in this letter.

The spraying appears to be a planned operation occurring in many different parts of Australia. In order to be better informed, it would be wise to contact Ms. Julie King, 08-9887-0050, in Western Australia, for first hand accounts of the health problems. She and her children, as well as many others in her home town of Pingally, became very sick with symptoms leading to pneumonia shortly after spraying took place 3 days before the Easter holidays finished. The local school s entire complement of students were unable to attend for some period of time because of the epidemic of respiratory complaints and the hospital was filled to capacity by patients all suffering from pneumonia.

Symptoms include continuous mucus discharges in the nose and throat, with patients repeatedly coughing up green material with blood, followed by short-term memory loss, lethargy and fatigue continuing for several months and pneumonia in those patients with a less than extremely healthy immune system. Of interest is that there is generally no increase in normal body temperature during the infection. Local Doctors in W.A. have found that only extremely heavy doses of certain antibiotics provide relief, though fatigue will remain a symptom for extended periods of time. The Doctors have apparently identified the organism as being responsible.

Whilst you advised Shlomo to contact Don Page M.P., and Councilor Jan Mangleson maintained that this is not a council problem and that we should contact Larry Anthony M.P., we would like you to know that American politicians are NOT being informed about these Chemtrail spraying and so we have reason to believe that our own politicians will also have little knowledge of the situation. Besides, Shlomo has already sent information about the Byron Bay Chemtrail spraying as soon as it was posted worldwide on the internet. We have the urgent responsibility to alert the community to the extreme dangers these illegal high altitude spraying operations may have on the health of population and not get involved with politics.

It is also possible to listen to Julie King s interview with the USA-wide Jeff Rense nightly radio broadcast (3 hours). This interview which was heard by many millions Americans and worldwide on the Internet, is available free on the internet, just go to the Jeff Rense Website: www.rense.com , click on Archived Shows , click on 2000, then click on July 24. If you will click on July 23, you can hear Clifford Carnicom, the world s best expert on Chemtrails http://www.carnicom.com/contrails.htm

Since Jeff Rense is in contact with Shlomo, Shlomo has arranged for me to appear recently on the Jeff Rense Show regarding Australian Fauna. Shlomo has assured me that it will be no problem for him to put you too on the Jeff Rense Show when we begin to implement some of the suggestions below. This will give a worldwide exposure to Byron Shire as the most advanced shire in Australia to many millions of Americans, and Shlomo have also suggested to include Mayor Tom Wilson and Dr. Abriel too.

After listening and talking to Julie and Clifford, you will understand that you are now facing probably the most difficult task of your life, how to inform and protect our community from the plagues that have already occurred in other cities.

As this is the most urgent health disaster in our shire history http://www.rense.com/general2/bay.htm , I suggest the following:

1. For those who don t have computers, setting up a Chemtrail File in your office and publicizing it in the local papers, so that you will have the best input from the public. I have requested Shlomo Arnon who is well informed, to coordinate this project for you and he has agreed to do it at his own cost as a free community service.

2. Requesting our medical personal to give you weekly reports. In the USA, many doctors have to report results of Chemtrail spraying back to authorities.

3. Set up Chemtrail Alert. When Chemtrails are spotted, all schools should not allow the kids to leave their classrooms. The public similarly will be advised to stay indoor and close all windows, as it is done with the smog problem in Los Angeles.

4. Inform all school teachers and principals about this hazard and teach the children to distinguish between Chemtrails and Contrails. I have requested Shlomo Arnon who is also the P&C Vice president of our Mullumbimby Primary School to give free public lectures at all our schools at his own cost, and he has agreed.

5. Research websites and Internet Discussion Groups on Chemtrails worldwide, and publish a Weekly Council Health Advisory on Chemtrails.

6. Contact immediately all our politicians and organized a meeting with our community.

7. Inform immediately all neighboring councils to report back to us, as most spraying is done now north west of us and sometimes at night too.

8. Organized an immediate urgent community meetings as former Councilor Ian Hoskins have suggested. Shlomo has promised Ian to give free lectures.

9. Councilor Jan Mangelson has background in health issues and her son Adam is now sick with symptoms similar to classical Chemtrail symptoms, her husband Jim is the owner of Chincogan Real Estate in Mullumbimby. Jim saw the Chemtrails several times and photographed them too, he offers his photos free by email to anyone.

10. Alert all Landcare groups and other community groups to watch the sky as Shlomo, former President of the Upper Main Arm Landcare Group suggested.

11. Council personal are already well aware of the Chemtrails. Shlomo has met Wayne Thompson and his crew of Council employees in Mullumbimby, next to the video shop, while working on the road, and pointed to them the Chemtrails in the sky. Wayne was amazed, and told Shlomo that he will keep watching the sky.

12. We and Eve at The Echo, can provide you with a long list of people in our community who will give you descriptions of the Chemtrails.

13. Alex Benham, Principal, Mullumbimby Primary School, has already seen the Chemtrail himself. Alex & Shlomo have already studied together the phenomena on the Internet.

14. We already have a network of Chemtrails Watchers who are in constant alert with cameras at their cars, ready all the time.


We are very pleased that The Echo newspaper has proved its responsibility to our community by publishing Eve s article. We are very concerned that the Byron News and Bay FM radio who initially, as The Echo, showed enthusiasm to print/broadcast the Chemtrail information, reversed their minds after one day and refused to release any information to the public.

Now that you read Eve s article, our community will hold you personally responsible should we have the same diseases that Julie is reporting in her community. We wish you success and we assure you that our community will support you.

Yours faithfully,

Gary Opit Environmental Consultant


Environmental Chemtrails Broadcast on 2NR North Coast Regional ABC Radio, Lismore Byron Bay Chemtrails Information Center (BBCIC) <garyopit@mullum.com.au


BBCIC would like to thanks 'MAP Internet Services' (02-6684-3899) in Mullumbimby for their support and setting up a special Chemtrails Community Discussion Board for Byron Shire. We invite Jeff Rense listeners/friends around the world to read and participate: www.mullum.com.au/bb/chemtrails





BBCIC URGENT ALERT TO ALL BYRON SHIRE RESIDENTS

Over the last few weeks we have received reports of practically daily Chemtrail spraying over Byron Shire. In the last few days, the usual 'lines in the sky' are not always visible, instead, the spraying seem to be done over the hills to the west in the early morning or night, and it is slowly drifting to Mullumbimby and Byron Bay during the day. This is turning our normally blue sky in the morning to an unnatural 'flat carpet' of clouds and haze, which does not raise any suspicions to the untrained eye, and we never have rain. Jim Mangelson of Chincogan Real Estate and others, have alerted us yesterday, when they noticed a spectacular straight line in the middle of the 'carpet'. You can see similar 'carpet' photos at this website from location south of Perth, Western Australia: http://julieking.htmlplanet.com/photo3.html Also, council employees has alerted us that while we have ONLY one flight path, South-North, from Sydney to Brisbane, which we are all familiar with, many Chemtrails are East West !!!


BBCIC NEWS: A professional photographer in Byron Bay took two rolls of films last Thursday of a very heavy Chemtrails activity over Byron Bay. When he developed the films he found many 'floating objects' between the Chemtrails. Shlomo, who was formerly with the Israeli Air Force and was teaching UFO's at UCLA, California, inspected the slides and determined that the 'floating objects' are classical UFO's. As the Australian public is not very familiar with the subject of UFO's, Shlomo has decided not to discuss the UFO's locally in order not to confuse the Chemtrail issue at the moment. Shlomo is now negotiating to post these spectacular UFO-Chemtrail photos on the Jeff Rense website soon.

BBCIC is pleased to inform Byron Shire residents that our brave and uncompromising investigative journalist Eve Sinton, the Environmental Editor of our Echo http://www.echo.net.au/ read this open letter to Janelle Bankroft and considered it to be news and therefore she told Shlomo that it will appear in the next issue of 'The Echo' on 8th of July. BRAVO EVE.

BBCIC would like to thank Jim Mangelson owner of Chincogan Real Estate (02-6684-3300) in Mullumbimby, for supporting, encouraging and financing BBCIC, and alerting our Byron Bay Shire community to the potential problems with Chemtrails. Jim, the husband of our Councilor Jan Mangelson took this photo in Mullumbimby, Northern New South Wales, Australia, 25th July 2000