Eating animal products will shut down your dna

[Constance]

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[Lord Sidious]

This is a conclusion I have come to recently after reading some info on the topic.
It isn't really rocket science I suppose, the animal suffers, that has to affect you.
It would be no different in that way to prostitution and drugs, just a matter of degrees.
Question for you avalonguggets, does this apply to thinks like eggs and milk as well?

By the way, never apologise for a post's length if it is high quality, that is what we want more of.

[modwiz]

That was a courageous thread to start Constance and my guess is you are prepared for what might happen because of it. I have seen you hold your own before and this topic should prove no different.

I am very aware of the effects eating animals has on consciousness and have seen it time and again but, I do not have it in me anymore to repeat myself to ears that belong to people who have, for the time being, made up their mind on the subject. Good for you to extend yourself for others in this very contentious subject.

Even Jesus said, "Let the dead bury their own".

[Constance]

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[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Constance Neal (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
This is a conclusion I have come to recently after reading some info on the topic.
It isn't really rocket science I suppose, the animal suffers, that has to affect you.
It would be no different in that way to prostitution and drugs, just a matter of degrees.
Question for you avalonguggets, does this apply to thinks like eggs and milk as well?

By the way, never apologise for a post's length if it is high quality, that is what we want more of.

Good...and yes...it does apply to eggs and milk as well. They are animal products.

I don't comprehend that part then.
There isn't suffering for the animals if they are treated properly if we take their eggs and milk, but cows suffer if not milked.
So how does this work?

[Constance]

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[Odah]

my view on eating meat is a little different. The problem is not the meat itself the problem is those of us who eat meat eat to darn much of it. Beef, pork, and chicken where not normal daily parts in most cultures.. it was small amounts of animal protien with vegies and other plant matter.

The typical form of protien people ate was from fish or very small animals squirls and small birds.

The other problem is with meat today.. which is why it would shut your dna down or at least suck out your energy. is definatly the way it is raised and cared for.. traditionally there was a lot of respect given to the animal you killed before you ate it.. now there is non at all .

(7 ercent of our dna being junk dna is as silly a concept of up only using 5 or ten percent of our brains. if that was the case we would have 97 percent less dna and brains 90-95 percent smaller.

[modwiz]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Constance Neal (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
This is a conclusion I have come to recently after reading some info on the topic.
It isn't really rocket science I suppose, the animal suffers, that has to affect you.
It would be no different in that way to prostitution and drugs, just a matter of degrees.
Question for you avalonguggets, does this apply to thinks like eggs and milk as well?

By the way, never apologise for a post's length if it is high quality, that is what we want more of.

Good...and yes...it does apply to eggs and milk as well. They are animal products.

I don't comprehend that part then.
There isn't suffering for the animals if they are treated properly if we take their eggs and milk, but cows suffer if not milked.
So how does this work?

If cows did not have their calves taken from them to produce veal the cows would not need milking.

It is a cruel set up for the mother and her offspring.

[SKAWF]

i agree.

i wish i didnt have to eat.
i dont like vegetables, so if i didnt eat meat i would starve.

digressing slightly,

i had a thought a few years back, that animals, because they dont get brainwashed at school,
are probably still in line with universal forces, and that as humans become ever more corrupted,
we may have to look to the examples set by animals to find out what humanity is.

in that light, i adopted a ferret from a rescue. rose is her name.
ive found that if i talk to her as an equal, she responds.
obviously she doesnt talk, but she communicates very well in other ways.
there is a little spectrum of existance within her. she is certainly not a dumb animal.
eye contact is important, and repetition of phrases. eventually she knows what i mean
by the sounds that she hears at certain times.

i think that animals are wrongly percieved as being 'dumb'. they are not.
it is humans that are ignorant.
maybe the phrase 'dumb animals' only exists because if we thought they were anything other than dumb
we wouldnt kill anywhere near as many, or we wouldnt have the justification to do so at all.

i have two ferrets. ive had cats, dogs, birds, and fish in my time.
i am angered by cruelty to animals, but i eat sheep and pigs and chickens.
whats the difference?
i dont like myself for doing that. the truth is when i eat,
its a battle to got the food inside me, before i realise what it is i'm eating.

i am aware that i participate in mass slaughter, (after the fact)
and i often walk home with the bodies, or body parts of animals in a bag.
its disgusting to me.

i wish i didnt have to eat at all. sometimes i go without food for days.


steve

[Constance]

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[Davidallany]

Re: Eating animal products will shut down your dna
Originally Posted by Constance Neal
Originally Posted by Lord Sidious
This is a conclusion I have come to recently after reading some info on the topic.
It isn't really rocket science I suppose, the animal suffers, that has to affect you.
It would be no different in that way to prostitution and drugs, just a matter of degrees.
Question for you avalonguggets, does this apply to thinks like eggs and milk as well?

By the way, never apologise for a post's length if it is high quality, that is what we want more of.
Good...and yes...it does apply to eggs and milk as well. They are animal products.
I don't comprehend that part then.
There isn't suffering for the animals if they are treated properly if we take their eggs and milk, but cows suffer if not milked.
So how does this work?

I'd like to know this too, please.

[Carmody]

The good news is that the situation can be rectified by not eating meat.

I find it a bit difficult to go pure vegan in North America.

Beside the point that this particular body I'm working with works best on a neanderthal (ancient) type diet.

I've tried the pure vegan diet before and the change in vibratory modes was quite potent, to say the least. It took months to come into shape, overall, but it did indeed.

After that, even getting near meat would affect me.

I've it said before. That when I was that highly tuned..if I ate meat, I would live through the death with the animal that I was consuming. The old cannibal thing, where we absorb the 'spirit' of the given person but with the animals that I was eating. I absorb and have flashes of the last vibratory mode they were in. Horrific death.*

So, when i sit down to a steak and I'm in a mode of being where I'm entirely clear (or closer to it) my bargain with the food can be a bit different than the norm.

I think that everyone does this...it is just that they are mostly desensitized to what they are doing and what they are being ( existing as).

Sometimes I'll accidentally go through a period where my animal protein consumption is way down for 3-4-5 days. Lots of grains, etc. Snacking grains, like trail mixes, etc. maybe a few cereal grains, breads. I note the difference fairly quickly.

I find that milk products are not too bad, as they are 'retrieved' when the cow is happy, to some degree. Just my experience.

*My spiritual job, at times, has been to guide souls from horrific deaths to a calm state so they can go to the light and the afterlife, so I'm no stranger to horrific deaths. I've lived a few, one could say. This task is done from the inside of the death scene, with them, inside of them. The trick is compassion. Enough for two souls, at a minimum.

[astrid]

It's also the way food is handled, and the energy, vibration of those handling it that makes a big difference to the end product.

Which is why blessing food before u eat it, is good practice to increase its vibration.


I eat meat, but only from free range and responsible producers.

Mostly i eat white meat, chicken and fish and sometimes duck.

The animals are happy, much loved and well looked after,

organic and free range.

I have visited some of these producers myself.

I have tried not eating meat, and certainly i eat very little these days,

but i get very tired and my bad focus ( ADD symptoms) gets even worse,

i'm unproductive and end up frustrated and depressed.

Sure i could be a vegetarian, but i would end up back on ADD meds just to get up and function everyday.

Its all a fine balance for me, and diet is a big part of that.

But as spiritual beings we are SO powerful.

We can alter the vibration of the food we take in, so it is for our highest good.



But interesting thread Constance, thank you for being you.

blessings,

Astrid

[Constance]

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[Odah]

I will not argue weather or not eating meat shuts down your dna and hinders or slows your ascension. It is really the first time i have heard the concept ..and i have heard a lot about the ascension .

What i will say is that i do know or have heard and can believe.. That Meat was forced into our diets in such amounts. As a way to make us much more aggressive. So then yeah you can sell me on eating meat makes it harder to keep a peaceful state.

[Constance]

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[noprophet]

This is something I realized very quickly when I switched between eating/not eating meat several times over the course of three years. The energy (awareness?) difference is astonishing. Annie Besant outlined it very well in the Ancient Wisdom. I no longer eat any meat and avoid dairy; though love pizza.

To be honest the higher energy state of never in-taking dairy would probably be a bit much - I've not got the control for being so empathetic.

Daring post none the less. I very, very rarely mention these views to anyone. People love meat to much.

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[Constance]

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[ponda]

If it could be proven that by consuming meat a build up of negative energies could occur and that this accumulation of negative energies had a detrimental effect on a humans consciousness then i would imagine that there would not be many meat eaters around and the global consciousness would change in some beneficial way.

I was never a big meat eater as a child and i always ate the veggies first and then usually left half of the meat on the plate.Years later when i was about mid to late twenties i went vego but still ate eggs and cheese.After about 6 months i noticed some changes in myself.I was more calm and relaxed and had a lot more patience when for example driving in traffic etc.Now i only have a little cheese and use soy milk/yogurt.When i first gave up meat i did crave it for a few months but this craving soon subsided.Initially my motivation was for health reasons but now it's more on compassionate grounds.