Eating animal products will shut down your dna

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[Lord Sidious]

Posted by noprophet (here)

Is it that much of a big deal? The not eating meat?
Why do people freak out?
This one is hard to get my head around.
If you told me like you did in this post, it wouldn't annoy me, even back before I was learning all the spiritual topics.

My father would probably stop talking to me for several hours if I tried to explain any sense of these ideas to him. He's a hunter/farmer and I grew up on cow/deer/potatoes/carrots

He only recently gave up arguing with me about being a vegetarian. I know he's not a minority either.

You might be surprised how some people get agitated at the mere mention of something affecting they're habitual diets.

It's why theosophy was breaking it down in 1850 and we're just now getting it.

Being a farmer, I see the issue.
For anyone that isn't involved in the industry of meat farming, I don't know why it would be an issue.
But there you go, nuggetry abounds across the planet.

[jackovesk]

Yeah..Yeah!

All I need is another 'New Age' Guilt Trip!

Gutsy Post Constance Neal...

Well according to you, I therefore consider my DNA shutdown forever!

Posted by Constance Neal (here)
Hello there everyone,

For all of you who are attached to eating animal products for whatever reason, you are not going to like what I have to say. I don't expect to make any friends over this.

with Love and Light,
Constance

No Constance, you have 'Every Right' to express your views on Avalon.

However, I don't agree with you and will continue to eat meat, together with a healthy portion of fresh vegetables as I have always done!

What's on the menu tonight?



Steak & Vegetables...Yum-Yum!

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Inelia (here)
The reason, as far as I can see, is that our bodies are actually independent to the big being, as it were.

Each (our bodies on the one hand, and the higher spiritual order on the other hand), has cycles and order of its own. Sometimes the body serves its own purposes; sometimes it serves a higher purpose; sometimes I suppose it serves neither very well .

Perhaps that parting blessing "May the Force be with you" is backwards. Perhaps it should be said "May you be with the Force."

[skyflower]

if eating meat shuts down our dna, then maybe that is the reason why so many have been "asleep" , and we find our world in the current state today.

But if energies from the center of our galaxy are coming in at monstrous amounts, and THAT being the reason why Earth is doing its dance, shaking off all negative energies along the process...
well then, shouldn't that be the same for our bodies, and DNA? wouldn't the "ascension" process include cleaning up all the junk energies we have absorbed by just living in this environment? A test through the fire....indeed.

[Omni]

I don't know about it shutting down DNA... I think that might be a bit overboard. But animal products may very well have bad effects IMHO.

I wish I had the answer to this. And I wonder how others got their answers...

[dr.abbadon]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
Yes, it is a balance and what is right for one person is not right for another.
a vegetarian diet of 13 years for me ran me into the ground and I was very knowlegable on the how to of it.

My body was desparate for large doses of protien.

There is tons and tons of evidence that an Atikins like diet will restore one's health, cure type 2 diabetes, lower cholesterol,
clear out the vascular system.

It is excessive carbs from wheat and other grains that are the killers and alter the internal chemistry of the body causing disease.


Such posts as these do absolutley nothing for the spiritual growth of individuals.

and there is a lot of arrogance I see in it., designed to promote guilt, fear and lies.

Love for the earth, for all her children, deep respect for life and the circle of live is all that is required.
The Native Americans have it right.

and since the white mans diet has come their way they suffer from diabetes like no other group
and when they go to their medicine men for help they are told to leave the white mans diet of flour, rice
and excessive beans behind, and go out and hunt and gather, and then their health is restored.

Although genetically the white man is better adapted to the high carbohydrate diet, they suffer from it too
with lessor serious chronic disease, but serious non the less. Now with all the trash food interjected by processed
food chronic disease is overwhelming the white man at younger and younger ages.

There is no climate short of tropical that can support a purely vegetarian diet year round. Without modern transportation
and shipping the vegetarian would be doomed in North and South Dakota, Wyoming, Idaho. Ultimately it is not a sustainable program.

and yes, the feed lots are atrocious, and should be against the law.
If all the fields of wheat, rye, and barley in the USA were used for grazing that would solve our diet and disease issues.
Once upon a time our bread basket supported many millions of buffalo without having to feed them over the winter.
If Yaks were raised instead of angus little to no hay would have to be shipped.
Its all about sustainability...


and when people do not get enough protien they reach for the trash carbs for a rush...pasta, tortillas, bowls of trash cereal,
sugar etc. All they know is that they crave, but know not what they need.

and humanity ate meat predominantly for thousands of years, before agriculture came about. With agriculture came the rotting of the teeth, the cardiovascular disease...The body is designed for meat eathing in many many ways.. and with out meat vegatarians become chronically B12 deficient... and they also develop low stomach acid which has profound metabolic consequences...

BTW, 98% of milking cows do not have their calves slaughtered for veal.. after they are weaned the mother continues to give milk if she is regularly milked... same for goats.

Perhaps some people need to live on a farm for a while to see how it is really done.

Basically I consider this thread as pseudo-spiritual propaganda and do not wish to get further into the arugment. I only post for those who do eat meat and think it is right for them, to support them... and I will not return to this thread, even if notified as I have no interest in trying to change anyone's beliefs who started this thread.

I operate in the food service sector. One of the things I have noticed is that our guests who dine with us complain a lot less these days. We have moved from purchasing produce from large whole sale businesses to small independent producers of fruit, vegetables and meat. The produce looks "ugly" when it comes in, all different shapes and sizes, colours .....but tastes fantastic. We have a maximum 24 hour paddock to plate policy, local food only.

I myself use to consume mostly meat. I constantly felt lethargic and could not concentrate. I was diagnosed with testicular cancer about 2 years ago. My father passed away when I was 10 years old from leukemia. I made a conscious effort to change my life. I refused to take any of the medicine my doctor prescribed and changed my diet completely. I now eat mostly fruit, vegetables and small amounts of red meat, white meat and fish. I have lost weight and feel energised. I even exercise more now than I did as a teenager! Oh and I am completely cured.

I have to agree with you that it is about BALANCE purely and simply. I get worried when I hear people talk about abstaining from anything natural completely in your diet. I don't know if there has been any evidence of DNA shutting down by eating meat? what does DNA shutting down mean by the way?

A great documentary I saw just recently was about the Dr Gershon. The beautiful truth I think it is called.

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[Lord Sidious]

Posted by jackovesk (here)
Yeah..Yeah!

All I need is another 'New Age' Guilt Trip!

Gutsy Post Constance Neal...

Well according to you, I therefore consider my DNA shutdown forever!

Posted by Constance Neal (here)
Hello there everyone,

For all of you who are attached to eating animal products for whatever reason, you are not going to like what I have to say. I don't expect to make any friends over this.

with Love and Light,
Constance

No Constance, you have 'Every Right' to express your views on Avalon.

However, I don't agree with you and will continue to eat meat, together with a healthy portion of fresh vegetables as I have always done!

What's on the menu tonight?



Steak & Vegetables...Yum-Yum!

You complain about people posting in your threads in a manner you don't like, then go and do it to others.
Great.

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Posted by Constance Neal (here)
Eating ANY form of animal product will shut your DNA down.

What evidence is there for this claim?

We know relatively very little about our DNA. For most of our DNA, we don't know what it does. We also don't know if it's active or not (turned on or shut down), not to mention how, when, or why.

We do know that there are healthy people that eat animal products. There are also unhealthy people that eat animal products. The same goes for those that only eat vegetarian.

So far the discussion has not addressed any real evidence for the claim. Given our poor understanding of DNA, biochemistry, diet, and health, I doubt there is any evidence for the claim, but if there is, I would like to see it.

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[jackovesk]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by jackovesk (here)
Yeah..Yeah!

All I need is another 'New Age' Guilt Trip!

Gutsy Post Constance Neal...

Well according to you, I therefore consider my DNA shutdown forever!

Posted by Constance Neal (here)
Hello there everyone,

For all of you who are attached to eating animal products for whatever reason, you are not going to like what I have to say. I don't expect to make any friends over this.

with Love and Light,
Constance

No Constance, you have 'Every Right' to express your views on Avalon.

However, I don't agree with you and will continue to eat meat, together with a healthy portion of fresh vegetables as I have always done!

What's on the menu tonight?



Steak & Vegetables...Yum-Yum!

You complain about people posting in your threads in a manner you don't like, then go and do it to others.
Great.

That was 'Not' my intention, it's was just another view that's all...

My apologies to You or Anyone else who found it offensive...

Sometimes we can get too defensive and lose our 'Sense of Humor' when we have a different view on such topics...

I thought we are all here together as 'One' whether Vegetarian or Non-Vegetarian...

Again Kudos to Constance for her post...

Regards,

Jack

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[Carmody]

As for shutting down DNA my experience is that in the context (I think) that she is speaking about, She's exactly right.

Read my contribution to the thread so far. One other person posted similar results/understandings. I lost the last of the bad vibration or bad energies when I went to a pure vegan diet. I found, like stopping the smoking of weed, etc, that it took a bit of time for the body and energies to clear themselves. Months -at a minimum.

In my case it took about 4-6 months before I 'peaked' and was capable of things that...well....as Ruger Hauer said at the end of the film 'BladeRunner': "I've seen things.... you wouldn't believe."

I was also consuming monatomic silver as I outlined in the 'monatomic silver' thread in the 'alternative medicine' area. Most people's minds would break apart under the level of influence and capacity I was living within -at the time. I went into what the alchemists and the Buddhists call 'the sleepless state' for 18 months straight. To live with a large component of and strong conscious connection to the higher self 'in body'--24/7.

One essential part of that whole ride..was.. being purely vegan for about a year.

Edit: as for 'feeling your whiskers grow'. Yes, it is true. Deep control over bodily functions, etc. I found I could still myself and feel every bit of the world turning, living, moving, breathing.

I could manipulate matter/space/time, to some degree I could look at a building or similar and see every nail, board, wire, all of it, in my minds eye..and when you can do that..then you arrive at the 'consensus reality' aspect of being able to manipulate what you can encompass.

To those that worry about such things, well, clarity of mind comes as part of such a package and you either go clear, mentally.. or you go insane. Not much choice. This means that ethics are not an issue, for the opening and the ethics come together as a package, as you can't have one without the other. Awareness is not lopsided. It is all.

The reason I stepped away from it.....is that I'm not done here yet. I can always go back to it, but I'm not here to do ....what I already know.

I'm merely explaining that you can't get there....eating animal flesh. In my direct experience.

[Hybrid5226]

I think the subject of not eating should be discussed more then eating meat or grains an veggies .

Its all relative to the change going on around us .

My grandfather ate all protein. Be it birds ,fish ,snakes , mules ,cattle ,horses ,dogs.

Then as times changed my mother introduced other choices that where available for convience.

The clarity an sense of purpose in my descisions when I have not eaten anything for 2 or more days makes me question if eating as often as is suggested is necessary .

With the vitamins, liquid nutritional powders available it becomes more of an option for me to just not eat .

Beside that I have been thinking lately of how to avoid shopping for grocery's with a geiger counter .