Eating animal products will shut down your dna

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Posted by Constance Neal (here)
Until we can all come together in the "common passon" for every last man, woman and child on this planet, bring everyone to the table (pardon the pun) we will constantly debate what we need to do, where we need to do it, how we need to do it, why we need to do it, who we need to do it with and when we need to do it.

Tangent Warning! Indulgent Philosophical Meanderings Ahead!

I think this is where I am trying to make my point. It is not necessary to come to a decision of what should be done for every person on the planet. It is only necessary to decide for yourself. Offer education to others and realize that some will not take it. They have their own life path to follow. We often rush in to fix everything before sitting and listening and feeling to determine if it really needs fixing or if it is the way it needs to be. It is this way with people as well.

Some of my friends choose to smoke pot. I do not. We make our choices. Because I have the information, I let them know that marijuana usage clouds the third eye. I don't tell them what they should do. What they do is their choice. Maybe they don't change their habit because they don't want to. Or maybe they don't trust my knowledge. But it's their choice. I don't need to decide for them. Or nag them. I'm not going to decide what is best for them.

All of that being said, I propose that we enact legislation to mail a free copy of Diet for a Small Planet to every household in the world. It is important information that every person should be exposed to.

Now I will get

[John Parslow]

Hello all

I am trying to understand the connection on this thread with vegetarianism and Soy, as I mentioned in a previous thread I have been a veggie for over thirty years and have never eaten a Soy product in my life. Fresh fruit and vegetables ... Uhhhmm

Love to all. JP

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Posted by John Parslow (here)
Hello all

I am trying to understand the connection on this thread with vegetarianism and Soy, as I mentioned in a previous thread I have been a veggie for over thirty years and have never eaten a Soy product in my life. Fresh fruit and vegetables ... Uhhhmm

Love to all. JP

John, it might be that many non-vegetarians think that veggies eat soy, soy, and more soy. The supermarket (at least here) is full of soy-based meat substitutes. From the outside it looks like all you have to do is just replace your meat products with these soy substitutes.

[Arrowwind]

Posted by blufire (here)
You know. . . .I really thought that when I left organized religion and began studying and researching “alternative” beliefs and truths that somehow I left all that hurtful dangerous dogma behind.

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Obviously not. Sometimes seems like there is no getting away from it, eh?
All one can do is keep holding their internal light, and "Know That I Am God"
regardless if you eat McDonalds or Wheat Grass.
Eventually, in one carnation or another, folks come around.

[s3nru]

Posted by DevilPigeon (here)
I'm not suggesting for one moment that if it's a choice between eating this stuff and starving one should choose to starve, not at all. But rather your day-to-day food intake should be as healthy as it can be.

I just hope whoever is giving this type of ridiculous advice can sleep at night... But I'm sure they do, safe in the knowledge the shares they undoubtedly have in the fast-food industry are doing quite nicely thank you very much.

Wiley Brooks has been championing breatharianism for 30 years. Check out his youtube video from 20 years ago before judging him, there's more at work here than what seems.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z3e5wueoN4U

[John Parslow]

Hello Whiskey_Mystic

Thanks for the reply, it occurs to me that it seems a bit of a cop-out to have to eat a 'meat substitute' when there are so many other choices: Grains; Nuts; Pulses; Fruit and vegetables to name a few - all good to eat and nutritious too ... but I have to say I would not in any way assume that because I made the choice to be a veggie that anyone else has to follow suit - much better to follow your heart methinks!

Best regards. JP

[Arrowwind]

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Posted by Constance Neal (here)
All of that being said, I propose that we enact legislation to mail a free copy of Diet for a Small Planet to every household in the world. It is important information that every person should be exposed to.

Now I will get

Yep. Slop up all that soy that book recommends...
screw your hormones
support the monsanto dream
of genetically engineered food products
and eat a food that was not designed
for human consumption,
Orientals had the good sense to ferment it
and eat it in only very small dosages.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Posted by Solphilos (here)
Your quite correct. Many people tend to become blindsided by what they think they should eat, and ignore what their own bodies tell them. Most diet fanatics forget that the human species has survived and thrived on many various diets throughout its history. No one diet can be hailed as superior and raised above others for any reason, physical, spiritual or philosophical.
I have known people personally who have thrived on strict vegan diets, and I have known others who have tried it and failed due to malnutrition caused by it. Some people get ill from excess meat consumption, yet there is a culture in Mongolia who live off a diet exclusively of meat and dairy, and they generally very healthy and live long lives.
I myself went vegetarian and then strict vegan, which only lasted about a year before I grew extremely ill and had to give it up.
The point is, the best diet is the one that keeps you alive and kicking. Listen to what your body says and ignore the rest.

Good post. Of course, my estimation of a good post is directly correlated to the degree to which that post agrees with me.

The only problem with listening to what our bodies tell us now is that our bodies are being tricked with chemicals. I had a heck of time getting off of diet coke. I still get cravings and I don't even like the taste! I also crave sugar and hot salted fat, which I am pretty sure is not good for me. I think that it becomes easier to listen to your body after you go through a detox. With practice, we can listen deeper than the initial addiction cravings. I think.

[modwiz]

China, is the most populated country on the planet and that is with abortion and a long time one child policy.

It would seem that tofu or soybeans has not led to emasculation here. I know they include some animals products, think pork fried rice for portion concept, but they do eat a fair amount of soy. I eat a fair amount of soy and at 58 years old can still hang a jacket without a problem. Boring usage but capable of it. Enough with the theories about emasculation.

I am not a theory, just a fact.

[Constance]

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[Whiskey_Mystic]

Posted by Arrowwind (here)
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Yep. Slop up all that soy that book recommends...
screw your hormones
support the monsanto dream
of genetically engineered food products
and eat a food that was not designed
for human consumption,
Orientals had the good sense to ferment it
and eat it in only very small dosages.

I have an even better idea. Let's see the world in completely black and white terms.

Us vs. Them.
Black vs. White.
Good vs. Bad.

We should deifnitely not look at a body of work and take what we know to be useful from it, using our discernment to leave what is not. Any source of information should be viewed as entirely true and perfect or useless. And in the meantime, we can also indulge in our smug self-righteousness about how smart we are to reject the diabolical conspiracy of the "other". Good plan. And good luck with that.

(ha ha! Whiskey has a temper today.)

[NancyV]

Posted by John Parslow (here)
Hello NancyV

Vegetarianism tends to emasculate men, especially if soy is a large part of the diet. A bunch of Girlie-men (as Arnold calls them) would be a desirable scenario for TPTB.

As a long term vegetarian and a father of three, I really have to take issue with your statement above - do you have any evidence for this?

Best regards. JP

There is lots of evidence all over the internet and also presented on Dr. Joseph Mercola's website about the dangers of soy. Here is an article on Mercola's site: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/ar...ummarized.aspx

If you can't read that without registering, here is an article from another site about the feminizing aspects of Soy for men: http://www.menshealth.com/bestfoods/...od_for_Men.php

Dr. Mercola, as did many of us, used to think soy was a health food. Many of us also thought vegetarianism was healthy and preferable for spiritual reasons. Some of us, including Dr. Mercola, changed our opinions completely after new information came to light. Also my years of experience in spiritual pursuits proved that vegetarianism was not necessary, at least not for me. If one has a strong belief that it's necessary it may be so for them, and that's fine. We each have the right to choose or accept any limitations we wish to believe.

I made the mistake for many years of using too much soy and my son suffered some of the effects of overuse of soy products. I finally got him to quit eating it about 10 years ago when I found out how dangerous it could be for all of us and especially for men and babies.

As far as my flippant statement about girlie-men that was just a joke in my rather irreverent and occasionally unabashedly sexist style of humor. At least I am an equal opportunity sexist and joke about women as much as men. We're all pretty funny in our own unique ways.

Nancy

[Rocky_Shorz]

hmmm 38.5 Million square km of grow-able lands of which only 1/3 is being used...

$38.5 Billion cut from the National Budget which is less than 1/3 of what 400 people gained from US tax cuts...

can anyone still afford a burger?

I know of a place that sells rice and beans with it instead of French Fries.

Double the price and it comes with a Salad...


anyone know what will happen when 7 Billion Spirits level their frequencies at 400 hiding in a bunker?

[Belle]

Posted by Constance Neal
Until we can all come together in the "common passon" for every last man, woman and child on this planet, bring everyone to the table (pardon the pun) we will constantly debate what we need to do, where we need to do it, how we need to do it, why we need to do it, who we need to do it with and when we need to do it.

I've read this thread with interest, tho' surprised at the passion and contention over food. Had you posted this at the very beginning, Constance, I would not have read further.

How fortunate we all are to have the luxury of debating diet when so many people of this world are starving and would be grateful to have anything to eat...it matters not whether it is meat or grain or fruit or vegetable...

Now a thread on proposing solutions to eliminate the hunger that exists in the world would be a more appropriate approach to your statement above, imo.

That being said, this thread has been enlightening on many fronts and I thank you for your courage and efforts to bring this challenging subject out in the open.

[DevilPigeon]

Posted by s3nru (here)

Posted by DevilPigeon (here)
I'm not suggesting for one moment that if it's a choice between eating this stuff and starving one should choose to starve, not at all. But rather your day-to-day food intake should be as healthy as it can be.

I just hope whoever is giving this type of ridiculous advice can sleep at night... But I'm sure they do, safe in the knowledge the shares they undoubtedly have in the fast-food industry are doing quite nicely thank you very much.

Wiley Brooks has been championing breatharianism for 30 years. Check out his youtube video from 20 years ago before judging him, there's more at work here than what seems.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Z3e5wueoN4U

That's cool, and to be fair I watched the video and have to say it sounds interesting, even to the point of it making sense...! But this vid is promoting a concept that is totally opposite to what I was getting at.

What I was getting at was the apparent promotion of having a mostly junk food diet rather than more obvious healthy choices. There was even a link to that on the website. I can understand the concept of reducing intake down to nothing over time, in a controlled way, but doing that would surely be better by eating more natural simple foods rather than the chemical concoctions spewed out by the junk food corporations?

[Constance]

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[Constance]

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[John Parslow]

Hello again Constance

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescetarianism

Many thanks for your comments and the above link, now my daughter (who is a 'proper' vegetarian) knows what to call me instead of 'a pretend vegetarian' ...

Love and peace to you. JP

[Nyce555]

I have to agree that eating meat probably does slow down our ascension. But I do think eating it in moderation is not completely bad for you. Some days I don't even want meat, but some days I have a craving for protein and i will eat it. I mostly like to eat seafood and chicken/turkey. But everyone in a blue moon, I will grill some steak. I also love fruits and veggies and make sure that I eat them all day every day. Cooked or Fresh. I don't drink milk though. I don't like dairy products much.

[NancyV]

Posted by s3nru (here)

Posted by DevilPigeon (here)
I'm not suggesting for one moment that if it's a choice between eating this stuff and starving one should choose to starve, not at all. But rather your day-to-day food intake should be as healthy as it can be.

I just hope whoever is giving this type of ridiculous advice can sleep at night... But I'm sure they do, safe in the knowledge the shares they undoubtedly have in the fast-food industry are doing quite nicely thank you very much.

Wiley Brooks has been championing breatharianism for 30 years. Check out his youtube video from 20 years ago before judging him, there's more at work here than what seems.

Yes, Wiley Brooks was our inspiration in the early 80's for attempting to become breatharians. He came to Hawaii several times when we lived there. Do a bit more research and you will find out that he is also a liar. His girlfriend told us one time when he was visiting that he ate McDonald's hamburgers and Kentucky fried chicken upon occasion. He has also been caught by others eating junk food. He was big news in the 80's, which is when my husband and I met him and bought into the breatharian trip.

I believe that it is quite possible to not eat and to subsist on energy from other sources but we were not successful at doing so as the ill health effects of prolonged frutarianism stopped us from continuing. Okay, maybe we weren't "advanced" enough to fully subsist on energy alone. But I don't necessarily see it as an advancement or high spiritual attribute. Why then are we in a body with a digestive system? It seems fairly elementary to me that this body was designed to extract energy for life from food. The fact that we "can" subsist on energy alone does not mean that it's the wisest move for everyone to do so. It does point out though that almost anything is possible.

But Wiley is not a great example of a genuine breatharian.

Nancy