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    Default Re: Ron Paul Launches Presidential Campaign ~ 2012

    He's had, and still has my support.

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    Quote Posted by corson (here)
    right on...... I am 100% behind ron paul. His platform speaks loudly and is against everything that we've been facing up till now. I think he has a super huge following and it keeps getting bigger. Spread the word...... This could be the awakening for the rest of the masses.
    Warmest regards, corson
    exactlyyyy!

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    I believe Ron Paul is the real deal, but our system of elections is not. The system is so corrupt, any legitimate candidate that would challenge the corruption would never have a chance.
    That doesn't address my point. If they interfere it could be exposed and wake more people up (win). If the get to him and scare him so bad that he changes his values it will wake even more people up (win).
    If he gets in and actually tries to help the people of the united states it will wake more people up (win). DON'T BE SO NEGATIVE GUYS! ITS A WIN / WIN / WIN!

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    Quote I believe Ron Paul is the real deal, but our system of elections is not. The system is so corrupt, any legitimate candidate that would challenge the corruption would never have a chance.
    Agreed.The whole system is rotten no matter how much perfume you put on it, it still stinks.

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    Default Re: Ron Paul Launches Presidential Campaign ~ 2012

    My favorite too. Hopefully Jesse Ventura for VP.


    As for voting, ummmmmmmm.......


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    That doesn't address my point. If they interfere it could be exposed and wake more people up (win).

    DON'T BE SO NEGATIVE GUYS! ITS A WIN / WIN / WIN!
    I don't mean to be negative, but I do mean to be realistic.

    "They" already interfered with Ron Paul in the last election. It could have been exposed (some of it was), and it could have awakened even more people (and it did). However, the end result was Obama, meaning another deceptive puppet to keep the sheeple distracted, exactly as planned. It's hard to get more transparent than that under the current conditions of massive mind control and propaganda. Are we making any changes to this insane charade we repeat every four years? Nope. We're still marching to the same drum beat the controllers have had us moving to all of our lives.

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    Quote Posted by Chicodoodoo (here)
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    That doesn't address my point. If they interfere it could be exposed and wake more people up (win).

    DON'T BE SO NEGATIVE GUYS! ITS A WIN / WIN / WIN!
    I don't mean to be negative, but I do mean to be realistic.

    "They" already interfered with Ron Paul in the last election. It could have been exposed (some of it was), and it could have awakened even more people (and it did). However, the end result was Obama, meaning another deceptive puppet to keep the sheeple distracted, exactly as planned. It's hard to get more transparent than that under the current conditions of massive mind control and propaganda. Are we making any changes to this insane charade we repeat every four years? Nope. We're still marching to the same drum beat the controllers have had us moving to all of our lives.
    But this could be the begining of some actual meaningful change. As president he could lead the charge. I see very little downside in being enthusiastic about Ron Paul.

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    He has my vote, again. Although he will probably never be elected because "they" wont allow it.

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    Lightbulb Re: Ron Paul Launches Presidential Campaign ~ 2012

    "Congressman Ron Paul sits in on The View to discuss his new book, 'Liberty Defined', while explaining how ideas of freedom would work in practice."


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=t5yN3eExXvs
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    Thumbs up Re: Ron Paul Launches Presidential Campaign ~ 2012

    whether he's the change to come or not...he speaks of the change we (America) really need.


    https://youtube.com/watch?v=4UzgA...eature=related
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    Default Re: Ron Paul Launches Presidential Campaign ~ 2012

    Quote Posted by dddanieljjjamesss (here)
    I don't trust him, I'm sorry.
    And its because I agree with him 100%.
    I'm not willing to be tricked again
    and we have no need for presidents or the government.
    I agree it is hard to trust politicians.
    However, if you judge a man by his deeds, and not his rhetoric, it's hard not to trust Ron Paul. This man's the real deal.

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    Ron Paul announces presidential run, says Obama can't win youth vote
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    But this could be the begining of some actual meaningful change. As president he could lead the charge. I see very little downside in being enthusiastic about Ron Paul.
    I agree that Ron Paul is an excellent candidate to support and be enthusiastic about. There is a downside, though. The election process is so controlled, so thoroughly corrupted by money, that any participation by American citizens is a complete charade, essentially a waste of time and effort, unless you consider the entertainment value of the emotional roller coaster you'll be put through, which always ends in disappointment. I've been through the experience a number of times, including Ron Paul's last run for President. I finally get it. I have been participating in a gigantic con-game, always with the expectation to win, but since the game is rigged, the "mark" always loses. In reality, the game needs to be shut down, the con-artists need to be identified and arrested, and the public needs to be instructed on how to recognize con-games. This will not happen because the con-artists also create our money (another lucrative and highly successful con-game) and have solid control of our society and all critical positions of control and power, including the mind-numbing mass media.

    I know that sounds negative, but all the evidence I've seen continues to support it as truth. I wish it wasn't so, and I will continue to look at all the old and new evidence in the hopes that I can prove that I've been mistaken.

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    I'm in Canada so I cant vote for Ron Paul. But I have always found American politics interesting because its a bit like watching a horror movie. Everyone once in a while I see a good presidential candidate and I am always amazed that, that the best and brightest always seem to be supported by a small core group of intelligent people but are largely ignored. Ron Paul is one of the most educated, informed, intelligent and dedicated people I've ever seen in politics. I don't believe he will be elected only because I have no faith that intelligence and not propaganda is what people base their decisions on. But its wonderful to listen to him speak and imagine what kind of country he could inspire if he could carry out his intentions. It takes a great deal of time and effort to be able to say the things Ron Paul does because his ideas require intellect and education - no fake can do that. Fakes have their speeches written for them; they are actors who learn to walk and talk for effect. Does anyone even notice that? Then there are people like Richard Nixon who are bright but look guilty all the time for good reason. I notice a lot of Americans are really into movies and maybe they think that the way movie stars act is normal. I don't know. But what I do notice is that no one seems to care about the phony politicians prancing around when, to me, they look just look phoney. But then I can't even stand to watch most American movies because no one ever looks real. How much unreality can you expose yourself to before it starts to look normal.

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    But this could be the begining of some actual meaningful change. As president he could lead the charge. I see very little downside in being enthusiastic about Ron Paul.
    I agree that Ron Paul is an excellent candidate to support and be enthusiastic about. There is a downside, though. The election process is so controlled, so thoroughly corrupted by money, that any participation by American citizens is a complete charade, essentially a waste of time and effort, unless you consider the entertainment value of the emotional roller coaster you'll be put through, which always ends in disappointment. I've been through the experience a number of times, including Ron Paul's last run for President. I finally get it. I have been participating in a gigantic con-game, always with the expectation to win, but since the game is rigged, the "mark" always loses. In reality, the game needs to be shut down, the con-artists need to be identified and arrested, and the public needs to be instructed on how to recognize con-games. This will not happen because the con-artists also create our money (another lucrative and highly successful con-game) and have solid control of our society and all critical positions of control and power, including the mind-numbing mass media.

    I know that sounds negative, but all the evidence I've seen continues to support it as truth. I wish it wasn't so, and I will continue to look at all the old and new evidence in the hopes that I can prove that I've been mistaken.
    Understand Chicadoodoo. I respect your opinion but still disagree. I openly admit that it's more than likely that the election will be rigged. But just look at how many people got woken up as a direct result of disrespect and censorship by the mainstream media when dealing with Ron Paul in 2008. My opinion is that their blatant disrespect has the potential to be 10x as effective at waking people up this time around because more people are paying attention. This in my view makes it worth it even if we lose.
    -peace and respect,
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    I too, am skeptical of Ron Paul. Too much disturbing information about him--also, he seems to be able to operate 'freely' without being harassed like others that go against mainstream stances. Check out this compilation of info on him: http://www.thebereanchronicles.com/n...gns_mason.html

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    Quote Posted by sunnyrap (here)
    I too, am skeptical of Ron Paul. Too much disturbing information about him--also, he seems to be able to operate 'freely' without being harassed like others that go against mainstream stances. Check out this compilation of info on him: http://www.thebereanchronicles.com/n...gns_mason.html
    I'm sorry, but it is absolutely ludicrous to say he does it without being harassed. Everytime he apears on a talk show he is harassed and not given a chance to speak. Brb I'll find some links.

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    Default Re: Ron Paul Launches Presidential Campaign ~ 2012

    Ron Paul is a spoiler, but he does bring interesting discourse to the political landscape. I do like his integrity...he was wonderful on The Colbert Report the other night. More people need to be talking about the Federal Reserve on msm.

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    Default Re: Ron Paul Launches Presidential Campaign ~ 2012

    Sunnyrap, WOW.
    The articles in your link (http://www.thebereanchronicles.com/n...gns_mason.html) REEK with disinformation. I'm sure the PTB would love for everyone to think that Ron is an illuminati front man. One of the videos suggested he was. The racist thing has been debunked so many times that it's almost not even worth refuting again but here goes:
    he supports 9 out of 10 articles in the civil rights act (which had to do with getting rid of intitutionalized racism (segregated government funded cafeterias etc.). The only part he had an issue with is the one that deals with private property. This has always been what freedom of speech was about. Defending popular speech is unnecessary. Defending unpopular speech is the real challenge. It is not about defending racist's rights. Even though we find what they say detestable (and of course anyone who knows me will tell you I do) we have to defend their first amendment rights or ours could be on the line next. Any true libertarian would agree with this position. If you support nine out of ten articles in a bill you support 90% of the bill. A couple of the articles in your link said he was racist. Most of the people who accuse him of this base it on his position on the civil right act. Ridiculous.
    One of them said he was a freemason. My response? I don't think he is, but even if he is, Benjamin Franklin, George Washington and Thomas Jefferson were all freemason and I would love to have any of them as presidents today. They did great things.
    Totally misleading disinformation, in my opinion.
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