What Happened to Egypt’s Pharaohs?

[MariaDine]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sobek
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hathor

Yes...green as his father the crocodile and , sometimes, he his depicted with the attributes of Hator (his mother) the moon between the horns.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Khonsu.svg


His name means "traveller and also, along with Thoth he marked the passage of time. Khonsu was instrumental in the creation of new life in all living creatures. I think these attributes gives clear clues about the «nature» of the this «god».

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«In art, Khonsu was depicted as a man with the head of a hawk, wearing the crescent of the new moon subtending the disc of the full moon.
His head was shaven except for the side-lock worn by Egyptian children, signifying his role as Khonsu the Child.
Occasionally he was depicted as a youth holding the flail of the pharaoh, wearing a menat necklace.
He was sometimes pictured on the back of a goose, ram, or two crocodiles. His sacred animal was the baboon, considered a lunar animal by the ancient Egyptians.»

[dan i el]

Since Ptah was the primordial mound, and had called creation into being, he was considered the god of craftsmen, and in particular stone-based crafts.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ptah

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0_mp3h8731.jpg

[MariaDine]

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...0_mp3h8731.jpg

dd.pth.hnt. = djed. ptah. Khent = Khentdjed(u)ptah


2 Translations

1- Ptah, the one who is Stable

(from stability/permanent (from the idea of Time ), lasting (from the idea of durability) = the one who is eternal, a caractheristic that gods

2 - Ptah, the one who is Lord of Djedu - It´s an honorific title

http://lighthousepatriotjournal.file.../ptah.gif?w=88



Djedu, meaning "the village of the Djed" is located in the central Delta on the "Damietta" branch of the Nile.
The small city dates back to the predynastic times when the Delta was composed of two kingdoms. Djedu was the capital city of the eastern part while Behdet was the capital city of the West.

The Djed symbol (for writing) is also a column of power/a pillar of stability

http://www.joanlansberry.com/brklyn/djed-hie.png

http://www.egyptpyramidhistory.com/e..._seti_isis.jpg

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by dan i el (here)


Sorry for the flippancy but he doesn't look that African nor European

Mmm, he looks envious.

[MariaDine]

http://www.thestoneage.org/res/142.jpg

The Djed pillar, frequently shown in Egyptian drawings, may symbolize a kind of electrical apparatus.

Some say the column may have served as a generator, thus providing lighting.One piece of evidence that Ancient Egyptians may have used electricity is the absence of any traces of soot on the interior walls of their tombs and pyramids. If—as evolutionist archaeologists maintain—they used burning torches and oil lamps for lighting, then traces of soot would inevitably have been left behind. Yet there are no such traces anywhere, not even in the very deepest chambers.

It would have been impossible for construction to continue without the necessary lighting being provided nor, even more importantly, for the magnificent murals to have been painted on the walls. This strengthens the possibility that electricity was, indeed, used in Ancient Egypt. (MAYBE)

Or the ilumination was in the spiritual sense ...

[observer]

As I've attempted to show in my previous comments in this thread, there is something much bigger than just the question of "What Happened to Egypt’s Pharaohs" whenever one begins exploring the known archaeology of this region on the planet.

http://www.americanfreedomradio.com/...amelot_11.html

Scroll-down to:
02/09/2011 Wednesday - Kerry's very special guest tonight was Michael Tellinger.

This is a Kerry Cassidy interview about Adams Calendar (now being called Enki's Calendar) in Mpumalanga, South Africa.

(Push the timer over to 25:00 minutes if you don't have the time to listen to the entire interview)

[MariaDine]

Michael Tellinger graduated from Wits University in 1983 with a B.Pharm degree. Tellinger published his first book Slave Species of God in 2005.The work is the result of a 25-year obsession with the writings of Zecharia Sitchin, who translated ancient Sumerian clay tablets and theorized about the early creation of man by the Anunnaki.

He is very interesting.
Namasté

[observer]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by dan i el (here)


Sorry for the flippancy but he doesn't look that African nor European

Mmm, he looks envious.

....As in "green with envy". (in taking note of the fact the entity in the image is green)

Is there any other entities that appear green?

Did someone mention reptiles?

[update]

Now Maria....

I know the 'Oxford' archaeologists would tell you Sobek is green because the Egyptians believed his father was a crocodile.....

Posted by MariaDine (here)
.... [snip]
"Yes...green as his father the crocodile".... [snip]

....And, does this same crocodile explanation extend to Khonsu?

Posted by MariaDine (here)
.... [snip]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Khonsu.svg

Don't you think it's time humanity gave-up all those preconceived thought controlling notions force-fed to us by the 'Oxford Template of Learning', and look at the evidence???

Sobek's father was most definitely a reptile.... but hardly a crocodile !!!

I think the evidence is overwhelmingly clear on that one....

[MariaDine]

RUSSIAN TEAM OF SCIENTISTS EXAMINES PYRAMIDS IN EGYPT. UNDER CLOSE INSPECTION IT WAS DETERMINED THAT MAJORITY OF THE PYRAMIDS WERE BUILT ON THE PREVIOUS ANTI-NUCLEAR BUNKERS (LATER CALLED MASTABAS) IN ANTEDILUVIAN TIME, BEFORE THE WAR OF GODS. TEAMS CONCLUSION: REBUILDING & RECONSTRUCTION OF PYRAMIDS BY PHARAOHS WAS A SPECIFIC WIDE SPREAD OPERATION FOR THE DISINFORMATION CAMPAIGN (AIMED FOR THE FUTURE CIVILIZATIONS) TO CONSEAL THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE ANTEDILUVIAN CIVILIZATION & ITS LEGENDARY WAR OF GODS. ~

The Epoch of the Elder Gods of Egypt. The ancient Egyptians saw their culture and religion as having been inherited directly from a DIVINE RACE that existed thousands of years before the coming of the Pharaohs. For example, the fragmented Royal Papyrus of Turin, dating to the Nineteenth Dynasty, c. 1300 BC, contains a list of ten netjeru (Ptah, Ra, Shu, Geb, Asar, Set, Tehuti, Maat, and Heru) - a word simply meaning 'divinities' or gods - who reigned prior to the first kings of Egypt.

In SLAVIC ARYAN RUNIC PTAH simply means BIRD (ПТАХ) or PERUN (ПЕРУН), MAAT (МАТЬ) means MOTHER with exactly the same pronunciation. Both words have the same neuro-lingual meaning even today in modern Russian. The ancient Egyptians also viewed the Giza necropolis as the 'Splendid Place of the First Time', quite literally the abode of the gods who had ruled their land during this misty epoch.

More significantly, the hieroglyphic 'building' texts found on the walls at the Temple of Horus (IN SLAVIC ARYAN RUNIC HORUS IS SLAVIC ARYAN DEITY HORS) at Edfu in southern Egypt, tell us much about the activities of the Elder gods, the divine inhabitants, who inhabited the Nile Valley during the epoch of the First Time. Looking at the plateau today, with its desert back-drop and its striking sentinel-like pyramids, that cannot help but exude a stark sense of permanence, it is hard to imagine Giza any different.

Yet the Edfu account, which was compiled from a series of now lost books attributed to the moon-god Thoth, enables us to construct a quite remarkable picture of how the Giza plateau might have looked over 28,000 - 12,000 years ago. If we were to find ourselves a time-machine and travel back to this distant epoch the chances are that we would enter a hot, humid environment alive with lush green vegetation or the type you might find today in equatorial Africa.

If the texts are to be believed, Giza apparently possessed a shallow lake, fed directly from the Nile itself. Such a supposition is not mere fantasy, for it is known that in past ages the river flowed much closer to the edge of the plateau, while evidence of a sacred lake and dock dated to Old Kingdom times have been found beyond the plateau's western limits. To the Elder gods this would have signified the primeval sea of chaos out of which the first land emerged at the beginning of time.

On the edge of this sacred lake were, it seems, tall djed-pillars, carved perhaps in dark stone, while standing close to the banks was an enclosure wall beyond which was a gleaming white temple known as the Mansion of Wetjeset-Neter, the 'place of reeds'. In the shallow waters was a small island, symbolizing the Point of First Creation, crowned with a simple stone structure that proclaimed its immense sanctity.

This island is referred to in the Edfu documents as the Island of the Egg or the Island of Trampling, while the stone structure is recalled in the name Place of the Well. Locally we might have found indigenous peoples of the late Paleolithic age tending cultivated lands, herding domesticated wild animals, making beautiful flint tools and using wooden spears to harpoon fish in the nearby river Nile.

Yet behind the tall, imposing walls of the sacred enclosure the texts speak of an altogether different kind of person - commanding figures referred to variously as the Shebtiu, the Sages, the Elders and the Falcons.

These mythical individuals take the guise of birds, implying perhaps that they were priest-shamans who adorned themselves in bird feathers. They are also said to have had radiant faces that must have made them quite striking in appearance. This strange menagerie of divine beings, who were said to number sixty, are spoken of as netjeru, or divinities.


NTR - read - Netcher (sing)
NTR.W - read - Netcheru (plural)

The symbol is a big pole with a flag. These poles were placed in front of the Temples. So they became a symbol/sound /word for transmiting the concept of divine being.

http://www.joanlansberry.com/setfind/neter-b.png


https://youtube.com/watch?v=5eZtl...5FB68387BDAC83

[MariaDine]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mTU4zTB99n0

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=l0WHyJCTyaQ

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=nVWPf1ZlCaY

[MariaDine]

http://www.newsweek.com/2011/05/01/c...onuments.html#

A sad news update from Cairo- From Kent R. Weeks

Weeks is professor emeritus of Egyptology at the American University in Cairo and founding director of the Theban Mapping Project (thebanmappingproject.com).

Can Egypt Protect Its Ancient Monuments?
The postrevolution elation has masked a disturbing uptick in archeological plunder.

[MariaDine]

Posted by observer (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by dan i el (here)


Sorry for the flippancy but he doesn't look that African nor European

Mmm, he looks envious.

....As in "green with envy". (in taking note of the fact the entity in the image is green)

Is there any other entities that appear green?

Did someone mention reptiles?

[update]

Now Maria....

I know the 'Oxford' archaeologists would tell you Sobek is green because the Egyptians believed his father was a crocodile.....

Posted by MariaDine (here)
.... [snip]
"Yes...green as his father the crocodile".... [snip]

....And, does this same crocodile explanation extend to Khonsu?

Posted by MariaDine (here)
.... [snip]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Khonsu.svg

Don't you think it's time humanity gave-up all those preconceived thought controlling notions force-fed to us by the 'Oxford Template of Learning', and look at the evidence???

Sobek's father was most definitely a reptile.... but hardly a crocodile !!!

I think the evidence is overwhelmingly clear on that one....

Well, I have no dout whatsoever that we had not only extraterestrials visitations, but we are still visited.
I will go so far and say that interaction is only productive when partners are in balance. This is not the present case. I know that for a fact ! Caution is the key word, to say the least.

Namasté

[Steven]

Very interesting thread!

Namaste, Steven

[MariaDine]

The Origin of Esoteric Knowledge - egyptcian adventure

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=2rBelx2-vvQ

[RedeZra]

Posted by observer (here)
In may be of interest to note: ruins of a much older civilization (predating what we know as historic Egypt by some 200,000 years has been discovered further south on the African Continent.

did you read how they came up with that date ?

it is pseudoscience at it's finest


there is no way to carbon-date rocks so what to do

well when there are 3 monoliths in line then why not imagine and calculate a time when Orion's belt rose flat on the horizon and aligned with these 3 monoliths ??


wow how did they even come up with that idea


http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/su...annunaki34.htm

[MariaDine]

Water erosion debate

R. A. Schwaller de Lubicz, a French amateur Egyptologist, first reported evidence of water erosion on the walls of the Sphinx Enclosure in the 1950s. Author John Anthony West investigated further and in 1989 sought the opinion of a geologist, Robert M. Schoch, associate professor of natural science at the College of General Studies, Boston University.

From his investigation of the Enclosure's geology, Schoch concluded that the main type of weathering evident on the Sphinx Enclosure walls could only have been caused by prolonged and extensive rain.[
According to Schoch, the area has experienced a mean annual rainfall of approximately one inch (2.5 cm) since the Old Kingdom (c. 2686–2134 BC), and since Egypt's last period of significant rainfall ended between the late fourth and early 3rd millennium BC,[ he dates the Sphinx's construction to the 6th millennium BC or 5th millennium BC.

Contrary to Schoch's paleometeorological conclusions, recent studies by German climatologists Rudolph Kuper and Stefan Kröpelin, of the University of Cologne, and geologist Judith Bunbury, of St Edmund's College, Cambridge, suggest that the change from a wet to a much drier climate may have occurred later than is currently thought, and that Dynasty IV (the traditional era of the construction of the Sphinx) may still have been a period of significant rainfall; a conclusion also accepted by Mark Lehner.

However, Schoch points out that fragile mudbrick structures nearby, indisputably dated to Dynasties I and II, have survived relatively undamaged, indicating that no heavy rainfall has occurred in the region since the Early Dynastic Period.

Colin Reader, a British geologist, agrees that the evidence of weathering indicates prolonged water erosion.

Reader found, inter alia, that the flow of rainwater causing the weathering had been stemmed by the construction of 'Khufu's quarries',which lie directly "upstream" of the Sphinx Enclosure, and therefore concludes that the Sphinx must predate the reign of Khufu (2589–2566 BC), and certainly Khafra, by several hundred years.

Reader however disagrees with Schoch's palaeometeorological estimates, and instead concludes that the Sphinx dates to the Early Dynastic Period (c. 3150–2686 BC).

David Coxill, a geologist working independently of both Schoch and Reader, concludes from the evidence of weathering in the Enclosure:


«The Sphinx is at least 5,000 years old and pre-dates dynastic times [before 3100 BC].»

Most Egyptologists, dating the building of the Sphinx to Khafra's reign (2520–2492 BC), do not accept the water erosion theory. Alternative explanations for the evidence of weathering, from Aeolian processes and acid rain to exfoliation, haloclasty, thermal expansion, and even the poor quality limestone of the Sphinx, have been put forward by Egyptologists and geologists, including Mark Lehner, James A. Harrell of the University of Toledo, Lal Gauri, John J. Sinai and Jayanta K. Bandyopadhyay,[Alex Bordeau,and Lambert Dolphin, a former senior research physicist at SRI International.

The chief proponents of the water erosion theory have rejected these alternative explanations. Reader, for example, points to the tombs dug into the Enclosure walls during Dynasty XXVI (c. 600 BC), and notes that the entrances of the tombs have weathered so lightly that original chisel marks are still clearly visible.

He points out that if the weathering on the Enclosure walls (up to a metre deep in places) had been created by any of the proposed alternative causes of erosion, the tomb entrances would have been weathered much more severely. Similarly, Schoch points out that the alternative explanations do not account for the absence of similar weathering patterns on other rock surfaces in the Giza pyramid complex.

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Orion Correlation Theory

The Orion Correlation Theory, as expounded by popular authors Graham Hancock and Robert Bauval,- but not only them, other astronomy archeologists too, - is based on the proposed exact correlation of the three pyramids at Giza with the three stars , the stars forming Orion's Belt, in the relative positions occupied by these stars in 10500 BC.

The authors argue that the geographic relationship of the Sphinx, the Giza pyramids and the Nile directly corresponds with Leo, Orion and the Milky Way respectively. Sometimes cited as an example of pseudoarchaeology, the theory is at variance with mainstream scholarship; Bauval and Hancock in turn say that archaeologists are engaged in a conspiracy to ignore or suppress evidence contradicting the established scholarly consensus. (Well, they are wright !) .)

[MariaDine]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SNqU1Bw9f38

[MariaDine]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=3w1x8nVD4xs

Evidence - rock paintings - from 8.000 years B.C..

[Peace of Mind]

Posted by dan i el (here)


Sorry for the flippancy but he doesn't look that African nor European

Precisely, I’ve been told that the first humans were dark olive green and received all their nutrients from the Sun like trees. The species then tampered with the DNA to build a slave race to labor for them. But as time passed the specie started to become recessive, this process (over time) made the species destructive and out of tune with the planet and universe, it became a cancer. A long story short…the specie was giving a set time limit to prove it’s worthiness to the universe or face demise. This is mostly talk amid some ancient African lore that seems to correspond to much of the current Sun, 2012, Mayan talk filtering thru the alternative media. Interesting times indeed. I posted a thread here by the name of "Melanin" that goes a little deeper into this...

Peace

[MariaDine]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=q1zaVUzTpfE