Bombshell: Top US Government Insider: Bin Laden Died In 2001, 9/11 A False Flag!

[Enquiring1]

For me, this is the first time I can honestly say with conviction that the PTB are weak and that they actually are not as in control as they first appeared. Try as they might.

Yes, I have heard this before but this is actual evidence...........

The PTB have divided the masses, by they are also divided themselves.

This reminds me of that parable of the Scorpion and the Toad.

[Neal]

Here's the 5 part interview from yesterday on The Alex Jones Show in case anybody is interested in watching/listening:

Part 1 of 5: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zQglhA4FK8I

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zQglhA4FK8I

Part 2 of 5: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qYOk2bXNy1E

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qYOk2bXNy1E

Part 3 of 5: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JkOPbI6XYYQ

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JkOPbI6XYYQ

Part 4 of 5: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Egemc9c9w5A

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Egemc9c9w5A

Part 5 of 5: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-zTuO1sA3sg

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-zTuO1sA3sg

[ceetee9]

I haven't watch the video clips yet, but it occurred to me that if Bin Laden died in 2001 then all the video and audio clips he allegedly made since then had to be faked. Is there any evidence of this? Did Bin Laden make any references to events that occurred around the time the video or audio tape was made? If so, and the tape wasn't faked, how could he have known about future events?

[Dorok]

Posted by jackovesk (here)
President Obama and a the 60 Minutes Interview: Regarding the non-release of Osama's picture.



Firstly thanks to a New Member Flasky, who found this interview and posted it on another thread of mine. He asked for opinions as to whether Obama was telling the Truth or Not?

Here is my view on the interview for those that are interested...

Video 'Body Language' Analysis...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7b8qBIPhVl8

Steve Kroft: Did you see the pictures?

Obama: Yes

Analysis: Watch for the Blank look Stare that Obama gives (He then Blinks Twice), Watch his Lips turn down, Jaw tighten & Nods...(Lying)

Steve Kroft: What was your reaction when you saw them?

Obama: It was him

Analysis: Bows his head in shame with the same Blank Stare and Nods (Lying)

Steve Kroft: Why would'nt you release them?

Obama: Keep in mind we are absolutely certain this was him, blah blah blah...

Analysis: Professional Liers are trained to lie and look to right, not to the left which is the norm, gentlly shakes his head (signalling futher Deception), voice shallow in response, Head slanted down to the right again then stutters with delivery (Lying)!

Obama then quotes "Very graphic photos of somebody that was shot in the head" Head slanted down to the right again then stutters with delivery (Lying)

But watch his hands pointed inwards towards himself! Telling us he feels the same way and is only a Puppet delivering his Controllers Message! Again that Bowing of his head down to the right and Continually blinking throughout the interview without giving solid eye contact to the interviewer is a (Dead-Giveaway he is being Untruthful)..!

In Summary Obama is an "OUT 'n' OUT LIER"!



PS - I thought the photo above was appropriate because I think Obama A.K.A Barry Soetoro is into Overtime in his Presidency and the Full-Time Whistle Has Started to Blow!

Are there any objective facts to justify that summary conclusion, or should we all be persuaded by colored, bold font?

Also, why is no one focusing on the alleged DNA evidence that was gathered? Isn't that a bit more concrete than photos any way?

[Dorok]

Possibilities and how they effect me regarding the status of OBL:

1. He's been dead prior to this official declaration.
2. He was killed when the governement says he was.
3. He's still alive.

Effect on me: Nil, Zilch, Null.

Nothing that was blamed on OBL will stop happening regardless of his status. The level of truth or deception from official sources will not change by his status.

[JoshERTW]

Posted by Dorok (here)
Also, why is no one focusing on the alleged DNA evidence that was gathered? Isn't that a bit more concrete than photos any way?

I found the announcement that they had DNA evidence suspect - considering they announced it roughly 36 hours after the attack, and that even a "rushed" DNA test takes 72 hours to get results (it's not like on TV you see, but they assumed no one would notice that) - I believe this is another loose end.

Add to this that even if my time line is off as far as the announcment of the DNA evidence (I heard it on Monday morning), they would have had to take the DNA sample to a lab somewhere to get the test STARTED, let alone completed with results, and how many freindly high tech labs are in that neck of the woods? Not many within several miles of the battle I'd wager - closest one maybe in India somewhere?

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by ceetee9 (here)
I haven't watch the video clips yet, but it occurred to me that if Bin Laden died in 2001 then all the video and audio clips he allegedly made since then had to be faked. Is there any evidence of this? Did Bin Laden make any references to events that occurred around the time the video or audio tape was made? If so, and the tape wasn't faked, how could he have known about future events?

Non US corporation intelligence agencies have said that a few of the tapes they analysed were fake.
Probably computer simulated voice.

[Billy]

Thanks, Downloading videos now, I will wait to comment

[jackovesk]

Posted by Dorok (here)

Posted by jackovesk (here)
President Obama and a the 60 Minutes Interview: Regarding the non-release of Osama's picture.



Firstly thanks to a New Member Flasky, who found this interview and posted it on another thread of mine. He asked for opinions as to whether Obama was telling the Truth or Not?

Here is my view on the interview for those that are interested...

Video 'Body Language' Analysis...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7b8qBIPhVl8

Steve Kroft: Did you see the pictures?

Obama: Yes

Analysis: Watch for the Blank look Stare that Obama gives (He then Blinks Twice), Watch his Lips turn down, Jaw tighten & Nods...(Lying)

Steve Kroft: What was your reaction when you saw them?

Obama: It was him

Analysis: Bows his head in shame with the same Blank Stare and Nods (Lying)

Steve Kroft: Why would'nt you release them?

Obama: Keep in mind we are absolutely certain this was him, blah blah blah...

Analysis: Professional Liers are trained to lie and look to right, not to the left which is the norm, gentlly shakes his head (signalling futher Deception), voice shallow in response, Head slanted down to the right again then stutters with delivery (Lying)!

Obama then quotes "Very graphic photos of somebody that was shot in the head" Head slanted down to the right again then stutters with delivery (Lying)

But watch his hands pointed inwards towards himself! Telling us he feels the same way and is only a Puppet delivering his Controllers Message! Again that Bowing of his head down to the right and Continually blinking throughout the interview without giving solid eye contact to the interviewer is a (Dead-Giveaway he is being Untruthful)..!

In Summary Obama is an "OUT 'n' OUT LIER"!



PS - I thought the photo above was appropriate because I think Obama A.K.A Barry Soetoro is into Overtime in his Presidency and the Full-Time Whistle Has Started to Blow!

Are there any objective facts to justify that summary conclusion, or should we all be persuaded by colored, bold font?

Also, why is no one focusing on the alleged DNA evidence that was gathered? Isn't that a bit more concrete than photos any way?

Hi Dorok,

New Member Flasky, who found this interview and posted it on another thread of mine, thought Obama wasn't being truthful and asked for opinions as to whether he was telling the Truth or Not?

Having said that, it is only my opinion backed up without fact but a fair bit knowledge and training in human body language.

Re - The DNA aspect? If Dr Steve Pieczenik is correct and Osama died of kidney failure in 2001. It would be a fair assumption that a DNA sample would have been kept on ice, to be produced when required.

As for the Bold font? Its just a habit I got into, my apologies if it annoys you.

Regards,

Jack

[Flasky]

Jackovesk, I think you kick***!

Just to confirm - I did post that clip and to my 'untrained' opinion, it did feel like he (Obama) was not been honest. And I did ask for other people's point of view - perhaps of ones with a better technique so to offer a more analytical view of the clip.

I have been (stalking-devouring-obsessing-seeking) ahem, reading Jackovesk's posts way before I decided to become a member and I find him to be rather clever with his 'highlighting' specific words in his posts.

Although he posses a very strong and sometimes ADAMANT point/opinion showcasing in his writing - I almost feel that his play with font and color is so that you can STOP and THINK, especially regarding particular passages were he might be poking at you to draw out YOUR OWN conclusions - and not necessarily agree with him.

I find this very admirable in someone. While he may have a very strong funded opinion already, he is still willing to make others think for themselves and WELCOMES -absolutely WELCOMES - other people's opinions and disagreements so that the theories keep on rolling.

[noprophet]

Posted by jackovesk
As for the Bold font? Its just a habit I got into, my apologies if it annoys you.

Not to go O/T, but out of curiosity - how do you decide what words to make red and what words to make blue?

[jackovesk]

Posted by noprophet (here)

Posted by jackovesk
As for the Bold font? Its just a habit I got into, my apologies if it annoys you.

Not to go O/T, but out of curiosity - how do you decide what words to make red and what words to make blue?

Good question noprophet,

Sometimes I don't get it right but generally I highlight the words in RED that I really want to emphasise and Blue for points I feel are of worth to the reader!

What my Bolding really boils down to is this...

I will scour the Net to Expose Govt. Lies, NWO Globalists and their Agenda, Corruption & Deciept, etc wherever I find it.

I will pick an article out and Bold the points of interest, just like you would do if you were highlighting/underlining the important points of the text you need to memorise for an exam!

That way you know I have Firstly, 'Read the Text' not just 'Cut & Pasted it' and Secondly Highlighted those points which are the most important parts of the article.

Therefore the Reader can Choose to pick out the Highlighted parts or Read the entire article, its up to the individual.

I spend alot of time trying to bring as much 'Truth as I know it' into this Forum as I possibly can, stuff that I feel is Important and Needs to be Exposed to as many people as possible!

...also I am a Visual thinker and often Mindmap concurrent analysis I find and share that with the reader aswell. e.g. Trying to Connect-The-Dots as we all journey deeper into the 'Rabbit Hole'.

I hope that gives you a little more insight as to Why I do it...

Regards,

Jack

[ponda]

Posted by Dorok (here)
Possibilities and how they effect me regarding the status of OBL:

1. He's been dead prior to this official declaration.
2. He was killed when the governement says he was.
3. He's still alive.

Effect on me: Nil, Zilch, Null.

Nothing that was blamed on OBL will stop happening regardless of his status. The level of truth or deception from official sources will not change by his status.

Yes i agree that it doesn't really matter at the moment whether he died before or recently.It might matter later on if he is still alive but the consensus is that he isn't alive.

Some people say that the future is not time driven but event driven as in a sequence of events.If this is the case then i would guess that the 'official' announcement of the killing of OBL by the US government is an important sequential event.This announcement could well have a large rippling effect moving into the future.

I don't think we will have to wait too long before we get another major sequential event.Hopefully it will be of a positive nature.

[jackovesk]

Posted by Flasky (here)
Jackovesk, I think you kick***!

Just to confirm - I did post that clip and to my 'untrained' opinion, it did feel like he (Obama) was not been honest. And I did ask for other people's point of view - perhaps of ones with a better technique so to offer a more analytical view of the clip.

I have been (stalking-devouring-obsessing-seeking) ahem, reading Jackovesk's posts way before I decided to become a member and I find him to be rather clever with his 'highlighting' specific words in his posts.

Although he posses a very strong and sometimes ADAMANT point/opinion showcasing in his writing - I almost feel that his play with font and color is so that you can STOP and THINK, especially regarding particular passages were he might be poking at you to draw out YOUR OWN conclusions - and not necessarily agree with him.

I find this very admirable in someone. While he may have a very strong funded opinion already, he is still willing to make others think for themselves and WELCOMES -absolutely WELCOMES - other people's opinions and disagreements so that the theories keep on rolling.

Thanks for your support Flasky and Welcome to Avalon, your analysis of what I am about is SPOT ON..!

What really makes me proud of being a member of Avalon was your statement...

"That you have been reading our posts way before you decided to become a member"

As you can see in an older post here...

Posted by jackovesk (here)
In the end my Mission is to Share as much of the TRUTH as I know it, with as many people as I can and am always Mindful of the 1,000's of non-members who frequent this forum and read our posts aswell.

...and Avalon is Still one the best forums to use...IMHO

I am very aware when I post to be mindful of those 1,000's of non-members who frequent this Forum and learn from and read our posts.

...and it is important to be mindful of them and share the 'Truth as you know it' with them aswell.

...although I've had disagreements with some Avalonians in the past and quite possibly in the future, I hope most of you know through my posts, I am on your side and want to Defeat the Corrupt NWO Globalists and their Minions aswell..!

Thanks again for your kind words it is greatly appreciated and it is great to see other Truthseekers have been reading our version of the Truth here at Avalon.

Regards,

Jack

[Fructedor]

Thank you Jackovesk for posting the Alex Jones interviews with Dr. Pieczenik - astonishing information. I'll be watching the second video today. More and more people are beginning to wake up and smell the lies.

[oceanz]

Whom has the 12 year old girl considered to be her father for the last 12 years??

[Calz]

Originally Posted by Flasky

Jackovesk, I think you kick***!

What else would we expect from Neo???

Sorry for overlap posting this on several threads but there are several osama threads and this is worth a look:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tOpzAxSnc1M

[Calz]

Posted by noprophet (here)

Posted by jackovesk
As for the Bold font? Its just a habit I got into, my apologies if it annoys you.

Not to go O/T, but out of curiosity - how do you decide what words to make red and what words to make blue?

Your join date was Jan 3rd ...

Flashback ...

remember Charles???

remember needing to scan through a cajillion posts in whatever time you had to be here???

color helps

[noprophet]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by noprophet (here)

Posted by jackovesk
As for the Bold font? Its just a habit I got into, my apologies if it annoys you.

Not to go O/T, but out of curiosity - how do you decide what words to make red and what words to make blue?

Your join date was Jan 3rd ...

Flashback ...

remember Charles???

remember needing to scan through a cajillion posts in whatever time you had to be here???

color helps

rofl, totally understandable - though I can say I read just about every single post in those threads. Some nights I didn't even sleep

[Fructedor]

Thanks for the SOTT Report Calz