The sensitivity of language and people when describing race-related issues

[kersley]

Posted by Carmody (here)
The more paranoid view is that this may fracture the forum again. As in, right now... it is building. Again.

Apparently, that is one idea of the external aims of some groups. (groups that are principally outside the forum membership)

Now, Sid, what is this thing you are doing here?

Following the finger in curiosity can be just as much of a source of a break up of the forum as anything else. If not more so. basically it was the root cause in the last one, just 2 or so months back.

So again, Sid, what are you all about here?

What a good question,
What are you all about here?
What is it that Charles is telling you that your not telling us?
Why hasn't Charles come back to finish what he started?
I don't get it. If Charles was here to share some true information, Surely we don't have enough time for him to set up a website where the truth will be told.
By the time this information comes out, I'm going to evolve into a grey.

Time to stop playing with our minds and let the cat out the bag as Denis requested.

[9eagle9]

What he said, PL.

Well there's a reason for everything. (grin) Honored to say the least.

Is there anyone in this forum who has the ability to calm tensions and mediate these sorts of things? Because left on your own are just trainwrecking here.

Which is rather why our Lord here posted a link to indefatigable. He is currently a brick wall that people are throwing themselves against but understand he's not throwing you there....YOU are.

And if it is determined that there is a person in this forum that can mentor this sort of thing would you be willing to participate in that sort of thing IF you knew that it would help to abate this entirely out of control situation?

Skinny margaritas on the menu folks...more taste less filler

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
*hands Rob a beer*

it's too early in the day for it where I live, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do

Don't think a beer is gonna do it this time ... 9eagle9 alert ... avalon requests an all nighter at your margarita lounge


Just got back from the store with a serious stash of popcorn.

Turn off the cell phones folks ... the main feature is ready to commence

in light of my reference to synchronicity, you and 9eagle9 are the only two people I have "friended" here on Avalon

in current american slang "this is how I roll"

Don't make me cry ...

It would seem we made a wise choice in recognizing the value of your friendship.

[PurpleLama]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
*hands Rob a beer*

it's too early in the day for it where I live, but sometimes you gotta do what you gotta do

Don't think a beer is gonna do it this time ... 9eagle9 alert ... avalon requests an all nighter at your margarita lounge


Just got back from the store with a serious stash of popcorn.

Turn off the cell phones folks ... the main feature is ready to commence

in light of my reference to synchronicity, you and 9eagle9 are the only two people I have "friended" here on Avalon

in current american slang "this is how I roll"

Don't make me cry ...

It would seem we made a wise choice in recognizing the value of your friendship.

cry away, I do all the time, not really so much except for joy. We are the three. Or the twelve. Or the forty-two. Or the twenty-three. Or the seven hundred and seventy seven. We are all numbers, up until about six and a half billion or so. We are the ones who want to see Love, who will never be disappointed, we are the fire that never goes out.

hows that for a campfire? This time, we did start the fire that could never be controlled.

[shijo]

Posted by Dennis Leahy (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
I have my own goals in what I am doing, I am sticking to that.

Can I ask you to please state or restate your goals. (I'm hoping you'll recognize that you may need to filter out or strip away secondary or tertiary goals, to focus on something as enormous as disclosure of impending cataclysm and preparedness for it.)

At the same time, please recognize too that different souls are going to deal with this in different ways - some will look for physical safety, and others have made the decision to go a metaphysical route (Purple Lama echoes it; Inelia resonates it, for example.)

Dennis

Hi Dennis, im going the metaphysical route myself, you can get a cheap day return on a wednesday....regards Shijo

[magicmanx]

PurpleLama

Could we throw in the most important ingredient of all with love.............. COMPASSION

[Calz]

cry away, I do all the time, not really so much except for joy.

Quite honestly ... a tear or two did come to my eyes.

Aside from the nonsense and madness in the world ... some things are special and worth taking note of.

That was one of those moments.

Thank you PurpleLama

[PurpleLama]

in response to 405 and 406, consider compassion, ect. ENCOMPASSED Within love.


UNITY IS REAL, FOLKS.

God, I am thankful for this!

[PurpleLama]

it appears I hijacked the hijacked, hijacked thread.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by Carmody (here)
I have expanded my post.

It is a question and it is real. there is no evading it. It is part and parcel of being a human and dealing with ramifications of unfolding realities and unfolding questions. I'm not emotional about it, to any large degree. I'm stating what others are surely thinking.

A wise man considers all avenues. Otherwise his ass is going to be in a sling when he least expects it.

People ask me what I think of charles. I made a post on the other forum which has likely been misconstrued, due to what I wrote and how it was written.

The reality is that I still have no definite or defining opinion on Charles as I never received anything that this particular being (I, me) understands as irrefutable.

Due to that, I never ventured forward to be involved with him in any direct or incidental way.

I am not trying to evade your questions, I don't appreciate people insinuating that I have some ulterior motive for what I am doing.
No one asked me if I had ulterior motives in the wormtongue thread, did they?
I will tell you this, I am trying to help not just bill, but the people who are decent on this forum, nexus and camelot.
Am I going about this the wrong way? Quite possibly.
But you know something?
I am trying, I am not sitting back attacking the messenger.

Posted by kersley (here)
What a good question,
What are you all about here?
What is it that Charles is telling you that your not telling us?
Why hasn't Charles come back to finish what he started?
I don't get it. If Charles was here to share some true information, Surely we don't have enough time for him to set up a website where the truth will be told.
By the time this information comes out, I'm going to evolve into a grey.

Time to stop playing with our minds and let the cat out the bag as Denis requested.

I can't answer questions about Atticus, you would have to PM him and ask him.
I am not playing with you or anyone else and I don't appreciate you making that claim.

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
What he said, PL.

Well there's a reason for everything. (grin) Honored to say the least.

Is there anyone in this forum who has the ability to calm tensions and mediate these sorts of things? Because left on your own are just trainwrecking here.

Which is rather why our Lord here posted a link to indefatigable. He is currently a brick wall that people are throwing themselves against but understand he's not throwing you there....YOU are.

And if it is determined that there is a person in this forum that can mentor this sort of thing would you be willing to participate in that sort of thing IF you knew that it would help to abate this entirely out of control situation?

Skinny margaritas on the menu folks...more taste less filler

If there is anyone who can help, I am more than happy to accept that help.

[K626]

This is the film THE PARALLAX VIEW should have been.

love

K

[Carmody]

Posted by Carmody (here)
The more paranoid view is that this may fracture the forum again. As in, right now... it is building. Again.

Apparently, that is one idea of the external aims of some groups. (groups that are principally outside the forum membership)

Now, Sid, what is this thing you are doing here?

Following the finger in curiosity can be just as much of a source of a break up of the forum as anything else. If not more so. basically it was the root cause in the last one, just 2 or so months back.

So again, Sid, what are you all about here?

The reality of these situations goes from the mundane right into la-la land for even the most 'complete understandings' that may exist in the regular membership of this forum.

Thus when we follow the finger and move toward some aspect of that edge of understanding..where the line blurs (necessarily so). We encounter serious problems for any grouping attempt..problems that tends to tip the bus off the road and dump the people about like injured rabbits, wandering around a crash site....bewildered..and they wander off in different directions. With far smaller grouping than they had when they were on the bus together. This is Psychology 101 classes. This is essentially what happened to the forum those 2 months back.

The group doing the following WILL fracture according to their deepest lines of demarcation as laid out by their core belief and understandings of reality. Their logic will skip to it's limit and their emotions will be doing the driving in the face of complex known-unknowns. They will fracture from being a prior group to being individuals with the face of their unconscious unknowns, unrealized conditions of their basis of life.. these core points of individuality which are the true driver of their personal edifice.

This is ALWAYS the result.

See it happen in miniature, right here, in page 2-3 of this thread.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...at-humans-have

This is why Charles, and others, and I (I'm paraphrasing others into it, my position is the stated condition) basically peed ourselves laughing and very much crying at the same time due to the size and scope of the dilemma.

This is the why of my more than once linking of the scene in The Life of Brian. "Follow the gourd! No! follow the shoe".

Even Monty python gets it. It is too bad that more people don't.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=sffSw-et9UM

I bring this post back up, as I have changed it a bit more, expanded it, if you will.

Any attempt to help in these areas is generally going to end up in the same place as is mentioned.

Which is why I've done it systematically for over 2000 posts. +95% of them (is my guess) with that in mind.

[Matts]

To all of us here:

I have read only a part of the posts, but i have a good feeling, what is it all about.
I had a lot to say, but my english is still so undeveloped that it would take years for an adequate formulation of my thoughts to write here. Therefore, simply turn to the Hawaiian method of Ho'oponopono (google it please). This has already helped in many very difficult situations

From my heart to you all

[Jake]

I just wanted to say that I love you all. I mean it. I can't say it with more conviction. I love Avalon. I love our little family here. I have nothing but respect for all of you.

[Donna O]

"Ho'oponopono
a way to solve problems

Ho'oponopono (Ho oponopono, Hooponopono) is a process for solving problems. But ho'oponopono does more than just solve problems - it's a means for getting aligned with existence. This might sound complicated or "out there" and maybe it is, but ho'oponopono isn't necessarily easy to put into a neat little package. The truth is, ho'oponopono is both simple and complex. Most important of all, ho'oponopono (ho oponopono, hooponopono) is a big help."

http://www.hooponoponohelp.com/

An interesting tool

Posted by Matts (here)
To all of us here:

I have read only a part of the posts, but i have a good feeling, what is it all about.
I had a lot to say, but my english is still so undeveloped that it would take years for an adequate formulation of my thoughts to write here. Therefore, simply turn to the Hawaiian method of Ho'oponopono (google it please). This has already helped in many very difficult situations

From my heart to you all

[PurpleLama]

Posted by Matts (here)
To all of us here:

I have read only a part of the posts, but i have a good feeling, what is it all about.
I had a lot to say, but my english is still so undeveloped that it would take years for an adequate formulation of my thoughts to write here. Therefore, simply turn to the Hawaiian method of Ho'oponopono (google it please). This has already helped in many very difficult situations

From my heart to you all

EXACTLY.

You hit the nail right on the head.

perhaps, sidious, if instead of demanding apology, you offered forgiveness instead for the slight perceived by you, you would be engendering the healing response you would be looking for.

for those who are interested, I tried to PM rob to say this very thing, but the smart phone froze and bumped me back to this page, losing my message but the universe had this one to reply to, right on target. Love synchronicity, the gift that keeps on giving.

[Calz]

Posted by Jake (here)
I just wanted to say that I love you all. I mean it. I can't say it with more conviction. I love Avalon. I love our little family here. I have nothing but respect for all of you.

Oh gosh ... I can only cry so many times in one day ...

At the end of the day ... what else matters.

I wish we could include all the *MAGNIFICENT* original and continuing members of CAMELOT into that mix.

Time will tell ... we are one ... correct???

[Belle]

Thank you, Matts. I do think we all need to stop, breathe, and remember the power of "I'm sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you. I love you"...otherwise known as Ho'oponopono

Although Rob has been consistent and attempting to move from point A to point B, there is much sidetracking going on. On a positive note, this thread has clearly revealed who gets it, who is stuck, impatient, demanding, frustrated, etc.

It's like Rob is trying to prepare us for a common journey and some are ready to move on, some haven't begun to pack yet, some are questioning the need for the journey at all, some are demanding to take the lead, some are giving warnings of dire consequences that may occur for even speaking of the journey, some are saying it must be done this way, some want shortcuts...and on and on it goes. So much noise and so little movement.

Breathe. Relax. Listen. Patience. Let it flow as it will. Allow it to resonate for you, or not. Choose to journey or not. But the journey must begin with the first step...releasing ego long enough to find common ground by setting all that would divide aside.

[PurpleLama]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by Jake (here)
I just wanted to say that I love you all. I mean it. I can't say it with more conviction. I love Avalon. I love our little family here. I have nothing but respect for all of you.

Oh gosh ... I can only cry so many times in one day ...

At the end of the day ... what else matters.

I wish we could include all the *MAGNIFICENT* original and continuing members of CAMELOT into that mix.

Time will tell ... we are one ... correct???

I say:

Include 'em all, and let God sort 'em out.

Seriously.

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
EXACTLY.

You hit the nail right on the head.

perhaps, sidious, if instead of demanding apology, you offered forgiveness instead for the slight perceived by you, you would be engendering the healing response you would be looking for.

for those who are interested, I tried to PM rob to say this very thing, but the smart phone froze and bumped me back to this page, losing my message but the universe had this one to reply to, right on target. Love synchronicity, the gift that keeps on giving.

I appreciate that point about forgiveness and I agree, thanks for pointing that out, much appreciated.
I forgive Bill.

Posted by Belle (here)
Thank you, Matts. I do think we all need to stop, breathe, and remember the power of "I'm sorry. Please forgive me. Thank you. I love you"...otherwise known as Ho'oponopono

Although Rob has been consistent and attempting to move from point A to point B, there is much sidetracking going on. On a positive note, this thread has clearly revealed who gets it, who is stuck, impatient, demanding, frustrated, etc. It's like Rob is trying to prepare us for a common journey and some are ready to move on, some haven't begun to pack yet, some are questioning the need for the journey at all, some are demanding to take the lead, some are giving warnings of dire consequences that may occur for even speaking of the journey, some are saying it must be done this way, some want shortcuts...and on and on it goes. So much noise and so little movement.

Breathe. Relax. Listen. Patience. Let it flow as it will. Allow it to resonate for you, or not. Choose to journey or not. But the journey must begin with the first step...releasing ego long enough to find common ground....setting all that would divide aside.

I am trying to prepare us and people on the other forums to be able to work together, without animosity from before popping up all the time.
Thanks for posting, much appreciated.

[Belle]

What an amazing demonstration of the power of love and forgiveness to turn things around and clear the air!