Ron Paul (2010-2011)

[Calz]

Posted by Teresa (here)
Great stuff I hope he wins. What are his chances? (of winning..... and also surviving).

If he gets Jesse for his running mate I expect his changes go ***UP*** and the chances of someone taking him out go ***DOWN***.

Jesse Ventura was a navy seal (prior to what he is doing to bring out the truth) ... I am not an insider but would certainly expect he has a lot of support from the "white hats".

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Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Teresa (here)
Great stuff I hope he wins. What are his chances? (of winning..... and also surviving).

If he sticks with the republicanuggets?
Don't know, I hope he loses in that case.
If he goes independant?
Don't know but I would hope he wins.

Yep ... there is the "line in the sand".

Jesse says he has to go independant to bring him on board.

[Calz]

Posted by Gaia (here)
All Ron Paul needs is a miracle...

Never give up on "miracles".

We didn't all die from the bird/swine/human flu and we don't have a damn rfid chip in us yet (although allegedly the nano variety could be dumped or injected at any time).

[DoubleHelix]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
Would you try to dilute 100 tons of effluent with one drop of pure water?

Your saying he's got his work cut out for him?

Most definitely! We all know the pit falls ahead of him.. a biased control of media and a totally rigged election system! I think most can agree that his chances are slim but without belief where do we stand.. When's the last time we seen a candidate of this calibre? Not since JFK have we seen a man who truly represents the people.

I know I'm preaching to the choir here Rob but this maybe our time. And I say 'our' because we may be Australian but if it's not clearly apparent to anybody viewing what happens in America directly affects the rest of the globe. 3rd time's a charm and this is Ron paul's time baby !

[nearing]

He seems like the kind of man that can stick to his Independent roots AND still run as a Repub. Too bad Jesse has drawn that line.

Eh, I fully expect major Earth changes to put a damper on the 2012 elections. Heck, they may not even happen.

If they do? Go RP!

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by jackovesk (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Teresa (here)
Great stuff I hope he wins. What are his chances? (of winning..... and also surviving).

If he sticks with the republicanuggets?
Don't know, I hope he loses in that case.
If he goes independant?
Don't know but I would hope he wins.

Ron Paul has already Won Sid!

I predict he will not get through the process of selection with the republicans.
And, if he doesn't abandon the dirtbags party, I hope he loses.
If he wins with them and becomes president, it will only give people a false sense of safety.

[eris23]

Posted by Davidallany (here)

Ron Paul To Announce Presidential Candidacy Friday Morning

The flag behind him reminds me of the movie" Spiderman". Is he Obama's backup?

The flag behind Obama was also the symbol of the rising sun. See Jordan Maxwell's work on this. This flag is simply the American flag.

[jackovesk]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by jackovesk (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Teresa (here)
Great stuff I hope he wins. What are his chances? (of winning..... and also surviving).

If he sticks with the republicanuggets?
Don't know, I hope he loses in that case.
If he goes independant?
Don't know but I would hope he wins.

Ron Paul has already Won Sid!

I predict he will not get through the process of selection with the republicans.
And, if he doesn't abandon the dirtbags party, I hope he loses.
If he wins with them and becomes president, it will only give people a false sense of safety.

There is more than one way to skin a cat Sid..!
Unlike YOU Sid, I am not an expert on Everthing!

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by jackovesk (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by jackovesk (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Teresa (here)
Great stuff I hope he wins. What are his chances? (of winning..... and also surviving).

If he sticks with the republicanuggets?
Don't know, I hope he loses in that case.
If he goes independant?
Don't know but I would hope he wins.

Ron Paul has already Won Sid!

I predict he will not get through the process of selection with the republicans.
And, if he doesn't abandon the dirtbags party, I hope he loses.
If he wins with them and becomes president, it will only give people a false sense of safety.

There is more than one way to skin a cat Sid..!
Unlike YOU Sid, I am not an expert on Everthing!

Politics is a very twisty road and no one is an expert on it.
Hard to predict, the future is.

[jackovesk]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by jackovesk (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by jackovesk (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by Teresa (here)
Great stuff I hope he wins. What are his chances? (of winning..... and also surviving).

If he sticks with the republicanuggets?
Don't know, I hope he loses in that case.
If he goes independant?
Don't know but I would hope he wins.

Ron Paul has already Won Sid!

I predict he will not get through the process of selection with the republicans.
And, if he doesn't abandon the dirtbags party, I hope he loses.
If he wins with them and becomes president, it will only give people a false sense of safety.

There is more than one way to skin a cat Sid..!
Unlike YOU Sid, I am not an expert on Everthing!

Politics is a very twisty road and no one is an expert on it.
Hard to predict, the future is.

25 reasons Why Ron Paul can win in 2012

Here is a summary of what Ron Paul has going for him to win the GOP nomination in 2012:

1) Rand Paul is polling at 44% and is up by 21% in his primary for US Senate in Kentucky. Rand has outfundraised the anointed GOP choice (Trey Grayson) by a 3 to 2 ratio over the past 6 months; $1.8 million to $ 1.2 million. Rand out-polls the likely democrat in the general election by about 15%.

If Rand can win, Ron Paul can win.

2) CPAC Straw Poll; Ron Paul won with 31%, Romney was second with 22%, Palin third at 7%, then Pawlenty at 6%, Mike Pence (congressman from Indiana) 5%, Huckabee 4%. Last year in 2009, Paul had finished tied for third with Palin, while Romney won it ( I can't remember who got 2nd).

When Ron Paul wins nationally promoted straw polls, it creates the perception he can win.

3) Ron Paul just won his House seat primary by a whopping 70%. He won 81% to 11%. Ron Paul will grab more headlines when he wins the general election in November.

This creates the perception Ron can win. The greatest enemy to Ron is the mass media created perception that he can't win.

4) Ron Paul has often been described as irrelevant because he has never sponsored major legislation into law, nor has he ever even gained national media for his legislation. That has now changed. Ron Paul's Audit the Fed bill has passed the House with 317 sponsors, and is in the Senate with over 30 sponsors. This legislation is not going away. It will keep Ron Paul in the news during all of this year and 2011 for his legislative work. Rand Paul in the Senate also makes a big difference here.

5) The Tea Party movement backs Ron Paul. The only other leading GOP contender who has any tea party appeal is Sarah Palin. Mitt Romney is a phony and is not fooling anyone.

6) Every four years, we get an age shift in voters. New young voters tend to back Ron Paul, while old voters who have died since 2008 do not support Ron Paul. A four year shift is about 7% of the electorate.

7) Newspapers are against Ron Paul; they are going out of business or their circulation is declining. The Internet supports Ron Paul and it is on the rise.

8) Paul's leading contenders are Sarah Palin, Tim Pawlenty, Mitt Romney, and Mike Huckabee (if he runs).

All these candidates have weaknesses.

Huckabee has a cushy TV job, and doesn't seem ambitious enough to run.

Palin is widely viewed as unqualified to be president and has less money than Ron Paul.

Romney is a strong candidate, but he is a Mormon which hurts him among Christian conservatives. He was also a pro-abortion liberal governor of Massachusetts who now says he is a pro-life conservative. In other words, he's a phony. He does not anywhere near the organization of Ron Paul.

Pawlenty is the NWO choice for president. But he has low name recognition and is boring. He's also a liberal republican Governor from Minnesota with little appeal for conservatives. He is counting on the NWO media to help him.

9) The Economy; the weak economy plays into Ron Paul's hands to some extent.

10) End the Fed - Ron Paul's book gives him another outlet for his message. Unlike Mitt Romney's book, which is stone cold boring, people actually read Ron Paul's books.

11) Ron Paul is good for TV ratings and is getting a lot of national TV interviews on cable news like Fox, CNN, MSNBC and CNBC. Rand Paul is also getting a lot of national TV interviews.

12) Voters are getting used to Ron Paul's "odd" ideas.

13) Ron Paul is 74, but has the health and energy of a 60 year old; he's not too old to run for president and serve one term in office.

14) Fund-raising - In the 4th quarter of 2007, Ron Paul was the # 1 GOP fundraiser. This was when he was below 10% in the polls. He will raise a lot more if he is at 15%-30% in the polls. Ron Paul could end up with more money to spend than Mitt Romney.

15) The NWO sets the pecking order when they start to do polls in early 2011. In 2007, Ron Paul was at 1% in these polls. Ron Paul will be at a minimum of 15% in the early 2011 polls, putting him among the viable contenders from the beginning.

16) The Wars in the Middle East - People are getting sick of these wars, and Ron Paul opposes them. Democrats who found out Obama was a phony might support Ron Paul.

17) 2012 is the 200th anniversary of the War of 1812, and will gain national attention. Interesting that the president during the War of 1812 was none other than James Madison, the Father of the U.S. Constitution.

James Madison is the ONLY president to follow the Constitution during a major war. Despite an invasion from the British Empire that included the burning of Buffalo and Washington, a siege upon Baltimore, and attack on New Orleans, the capture of Detroit, an Atlantic ocean naval blockade, and a secession movement in Hartford, Connecticut, James Madison never claimed special war powers, arrested dissidents, issued war propaganda, had a draft, or suspended habeas corpus, despite going up against the worlds greatest power with no income tax, no central bank, and not much of an army of navy. And we won it, gaining free trade for all American on the Great Lakes, Atlantic ocean, Mississippi river, West Indies, and Mediterranean Sea.

Word of what James Madison did in the War of 1812 might leak out to the people in 2011 and 2012.

18) A lot of people are getting sick of the war on drugs. Neither Bush or Obama will even consider legalizing medical marijuana, an issue which polls at 80% in favor of.

19) Ron Paul is the only candidate who can talk intelligently about the U.S. Constitution.

20) People are sick of the health care bill, and Ron Paul has credibility in opposing it. Ron Paul is also a medical doctor.

21) The Campaign For Liberty, Ron Paul's PAC, is raising lots of cash and forging many ties with key GOP leaders at the state level.

22) Rand Paul got the endorsements of the Ronald Reagan PAC, Sarah Palin, Steve Forbes, and the Gun Owners of America. Expect to see Ron Paul get some major endorsements, if Rand Paul can.

23) Ron Paul voted against all the bank bailouts.

24) Ron Paul has an army of volunteers that will hit every straw poll, from CPAC to the Southern Republican Leadership Conference, to the county GOP straw poll at the annual meeting of John Doe County in all 50 States. He is going to win almost all of them.

25) Ron Paul has enough support to win the Ames Iowa Straw Poll in the summer of 2011. He got 1300 votes in 2007, and needs only about 5000 to win.

PS - After all this if the PTB/MSM somehow force him out as the Nominated Republican Candidate position, Ron Paul will run as an Independant and more than likely have Former Governor Jesse Ventura as his running mate.

GEEZ I'd love to see Ron Paul WIN and make the PTB Elite's WORST NIGHTMARE come True!

[JoeNashville]

The Republicans have an incredibly weak field of candidates this time around. Ron Paul is easily the best, but he got killed in that debate the other night against the worst group of candidates I've ever seen. They all seem to be stepping over each other to kiss the feet of tptb. The black guy was good(I can't remember his name) but I've never heard of him. Ron Paul seems too old now and doesn't appear to have the energy to make the case for truth against the propaganda. I hope I'm wrong.

I voted for Paul in the last primary, but he'll never get the nomination now because it's completely controlled by those who control the money. Even if he did, he wouldn't survive with his first objective to end the Fed. Look at the environment. He'll be running for votes from people who think Obama is a hero, because got bin Laden. Don't know where to start on that one.

Obama sadly will be re-elected, me thinks. I just wonder where they will keep coming up with dead people to defrost to make Obama look like a hero. Maybe Oswald?

[Kerrigan]

20) People are sick of the health care bill, and Ron Paul has credibility in opposing it. Ron Paul is also a medical doctor.

What are his views on vaccination?

[sunnyrap]

I made this comment on another thread, so I'll repeat it here:
... some years ago when Ron Paul was first getting a lot of attention, there was a lot of videos and pics circulating that implicated him as being a kind of elite trojan horse. The pics of him flashing the hand signal the elites all use, i.e., the one we in Texas call the 'hookem horns' signal.

Granted, it could be disinformation, but it does bear looking into. Here's a post from GLP (not that THAT makes it trustworthy, but...)

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]http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message487513/pg1
Clip: RON PAUL IS AN ILLUMINATI MASTER MASON AND A DECEIVER, THEY ARE TRICKING THE PEOPLE!
Remember the old saying "if it's too good to be true it usually is"
The GridKeeper posted a video showing R.P, giving master Mason handshakes and the horned Devil sign.

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So he's running as a Republican because 'running as an Independent would surely mean a loss'. Plausible, except that party has to get behind him as a candidate--and they've all been bought, it appears. I guess you could argue that he flashes the horned devil hand signal to trick the ptb that he's one of them as well. However, operating in a rigged system if he's not genuinely one of them pretty much insures he will lose anyway, doesn't it?

Bottom line is I'm highly skeptical of anyone, no matter how fantastic a representative of the people they might be, of having a snowball's chance in the Sahara of getting the office, without first routing out the manipulators of the system.

[giovonni]

from Ron Paul: IMF Implicated After Chief Arrested on Attempted Rape Charge



story here;
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011...sodomy-charge/

[T Smith]

Posted by AlternativeInfoJunkie (here)
Don't give up! If Ron Paul flips and changes his values once he gets in office (hypothetical) it will wake even MORE people up! Think logically you guys. it's a win / win. period.

If Ron Paul flips and changes his values once he gets in office, we will be looking at a most unfathomable puzzle right in the eye.

[humanalien]

I think ron paul is already showing his evil side.

Ron Paul was against the 1964 Civil Rights Act?

https://youtube.com/watch?v=26spr...layer_embedded


1964 Civil Rights Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1964

[DoubleHelix]

Posted by humanalien (here)
I think ron paul is already showing his evil side.

Could be.. but I would suggest watching the whole interview to get a better perspective!

This presenter (better yet the team behind behind him) had obviously spent time researching in order to dig up dirt on Ron Paul and place him in a bad light, not only we're the facts misconstrued but they have no bearing on what this man stands for in this current day.

Why would a popular TV presenter attempt to discredit a candidate with such a large nation-wide following? because maybe he's seen as a real threat to the current administration and TPTB...

[DoubleHelix]

This is Mr. Paul's best interview to date since joining the race for President. It encapsulates Ron's straight edge approach in the face of disbelief, thus allowing for his true integrity to shine through.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=94VFW_KHqYU

[Humble Janitor]

Based on his opinions regarding the 1964 Civil Rights Act, I'm not going to vote for him.

Something doesn't sit well with me, especially the idea of this law infringing upon the rights of business owners to discriminate based upon race and ethnicity. This is the argument that I encountered on a similar site.

Now, I honestly believe that Ron Paul has/had a doppelganger who authored a so-called newsletter back in the early 90s that spoke lowly of Blacks and other minorities. I can't really see him as a racist. I just don't like his thoughts on the CRA.

Then again, Libertarianism isn't perfect by a long shot.

[crosby]

i want to say this: after reading ktlight's new thread this morning, i am more than ever going to stand behind Ron Paul. this country has gone totally to the $hithou$e, and something has to change. i will start with my neighborhood, then will graciously push it out further. i want the word to get out regarding his platform and the changes that he wants to make. i'm going to get very vocal here. sick and tired of this country taking advantage of and acting the way that it does. i don't know what else i can do. obviously contacting my local representatives doesn't do a darn bit of good. GET LOUD PEOPLE OF AMERICA. DEMAND CHANGE.............
regards, corson

[Gustav]

Indeed quite a strong performance. Good rebuttle, good stance. Still a pitty he has to intervene/beg to explain a stance, but that apparently is part of 'the american way' of having a television discussion