Has white man colonised planet Earth?

[Calz]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by jimbojp (here)
Sid,
I don't think prayer is gonna help, nor do I think a war is the answer (as much as i'd like that), maybye there is another way.

You pray while I sharpen up my blade weapons.
Best of both worlds.
I just want the madness to end, I am not worried about being here to enjoy the peace.

You have to crack eggs to make the omelette.

Myself ... I prefer my eggs not be scambled ... but that is another story

I don't want my family to suffer is about all I can offer along those lines.

As for "choosing sides" there have been various sources suggesting (mostly channeled I suspect) that at the "end of the cycle" the truth would be made clear. We will be "offered the chance to make a choice."

In context with "chosing which side to fight for" ... does anyone have any comments, insights or opinions to offer???

I would hazard to guess all those of "religious persuasion" would (currently) fall under Unlil's hat??? Yes that would be all organized religion. Will those people have the "truth" made aware to them despite a lifetime of conditioned belief???

Do Enki's "scout ships" start opening up "recruiting stations"???

Do we all have a "truth packet" telepathically dumped on us ... sign on the dotted line kinda thang???

Throwing out a few things that could well have no good answers ... but just following the thread of thought here and trying to project the results.

[Seikou-Kishi]

A fight, Calz, is what they want. They want to lower your vibration. Do not accept anything that lowers your vibration (unless you want and choose to) :-)

[davyj0nes]

I'm not sure that war is the answer. Why not just give Lord Enlil a starship and enough fuel and he can go where ever he wants.

[jimbojp]

I've had enough of these demi gods being in charge of humanity. I'd like to see humanity on top of the pyramid.

[Seikou-Kishi]

But seeing "humanity on top of the pyramid" only means there would be some other unfortunate people beneath humanity. Why would you want to inflict suffering and control to which you yourself have been subjected? Pain and suffering normally teach people that pain and suffering aren't things to be spread about.

[Calz]

Posted by LeoNorth (here)
I'm not sure that war is the answer. Why not just give Lord Enlil a starship and enough fuel and he can go where ever he wants.

Fascinating ... if only it were that simple.

[jimbojp]

Posted by Oliver S (here)
But seeing "humanity on top of the pyramid" only means there would be some other unfortunate people beneath humanity. Why would you want to inflict suffering and control to which you yourself have been subjected? Pain and suffering normally teach people that pain and suffering aren't things to be spread about.

I have faith in humanity, if the people on top of the pyramid were wise and learned then I would see no problem. When I was growing up my mother and father were in charge of the household, they made the rules, it was a hierachy, I have no problem with that. They didn't use pain and suffering to teach me they used love to guide me.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Posted by jimbojp (here)

Posted by Oliver S (here)
But seeing "humanity on top of the pyramid" only means there would be some other unfortunate people beneath humanity. Why would you want to inflict suffering and control to which you yourself have been subjected? Pain and suffering normally teach people that pain and suffering aren't things to be spread about.

I have faith in humanity, if the people on top of the pyramid were wise and learned then I would see no problem. When I was growing up my mother and father were in charge of the household, they made the rules, it was a hierachy, I have no problem with that. They didn't use pain and suffering to teach me they used love to guide me.

Except your analogy falls short straight away. This paternalism doesn't work in national politics. Why should it work in racial politics? "Our race is above yours, therefore be dutiful and obedient and we shall be magnanimous and benevolent" (actually, that sounds disturbingly familiar). What if they rebelled against your regime, would that justify 'correction'? It is folly.

[Calz]

Posted by Oliver S (here)
But seeing "humanity on top of the pyramid" only means there would be some other unfortunate people beneath humanity. Why would you want to inflict suffering and control to which you yourself have been subjected? Pain and suffering normally teach people that pain and suffering aren't things to be spread about.

Exactly.

Allegedly more "advanced" et societies chose their "leaders" on the basis of spiritual awareness and advancement. Perhaps if we as humanity can ever advance to telepathy for all (aka the *lies stop*) then such a path may be available and having leadership could, in fact, be quite beneficial.

[jimbojp]

Posted by Oliver S (here)

Posted by jimbojp (here)

Posted by Oliver S (here)
But seeing "humanity on top of the pyramid" only means there would be some other unfortunate people beneath humanity. Why would you want to inflict suffering and control to which you yourself have been subjected? Pain and suffering normally teach people that pain and suffering aren't things to be spread about.

I have faith in humanity, if the people on top of the pyramid were wise and learned then I would see no problem. When I was growing up my mother and father were in charge of the household, they made the rules, it was a hierachy, I have no problem with that. They didn't use pain and suffering to teach me they used love to guide me.

Except your analogy falls short straight away. This paternalism doesn't work in national politics. Why should it work in racial politics? "Our race is above yours, therefore be dutiful and obedient and we shall be magnanimous and benevolent" (actually, that sounds disturbingly familiar). What if they rebelled against your regime, would that justify 'correction'? It is folly.

I was suggesting that the rulers were selected for their wisdom, nothing to do with race. A natural hierachy. Do you think society could move forward without any leaders?

[Seikou-Kishi]

Yes. Who would determine who was sufficiently wise?


I would like you to be right.

[Calz]

Posted by jimbojp (here)
Do you think society could move forward without any leaders?

Good question.

Another Alex Collier moment ... "why do people born on your planet have to pay for it" (paraphrasing from memory regarding the use of money).

[OnyxKnight]

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by norman (here)
Why do you think it's mostly been unintentional SID?

It seems that they created man as a type of slave, possibly to mine gold, that is one theory.
There are gold mines on the planet that predate recorded history, so that is a possibility and also explains why there is no missing link.
Once they got what they wanted, I suppose they went elsewhere.
There was a war on the planet where man fought the gods, as you would find in the Vedas.
Some of them, probably Enlil/Jehovah and Marduk never left, they may have been marooned.
All of this, what we call civilisation may be a support system for them until they can get off of Earth and go home, or help arrives.
That could also explain the world government and the need they have to reduce the planet's population to conserve resources.
So, this, what we call existence is probably not what they intended when they genetically engineered man.

True. Things have changed, otherwise we wouldn't have even reach a 'homo sapiens' stage. First impressions go a long way, and I think we have impressed some of them enough, that they not only have let us behave more freely, but they also showed us and taught us things.

Regarding population reduction - there are enough resources to go around for more than 40 billion humans. Its not a matter of resources. Its a matter of management. You can manage 500 million people more easily then you can manage 7 billion, don't you agree?

We are reaching a number that is harder and harder to control and keep in order.

[Seikou-Kishi]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
"why do people born on your planet have to pay for it"

By the end of a lifetime, anybody daft enough to come here has more than paid for their own mistake XD

[jimbojp]

Posted by Oliver S (here)
Yes. Who would determine who was sufficiently wise?


I would like you to be right.

I'd like to be right too, but at the moment I'm running on faith.
We all would determine who was sufficiently wise.
At the moment our politicians are chosen by the ptb, not us. I have faith that given the right options humanity will make the right choices.

[Calz]

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)

Regarding population reduction - there are enough resources to go around for more than 40 billion humans. Its not a matter of resources. Its a matter of management. You can manage 500 million people more easily then you can manage 7 billion, don't you agree?

We are reaching a number that is harder and harder to control and keep in order.

That, of course, all depends on what technology that already exists *here* as well as any other technology existing *elsewhere* would be released to heal the planet.

Yes the globalist wet dream is to have a select few (them of course) with command of a small transhumanist society completely under their control.

[Leon]

I noticed there are those who believe this is a racist thread... I don't think these people have any idea what racism is... like most people don't.

This is just a simple question. the answer may be complex enough...

Let's see if we can come up with an answer instead of bikkering about who is racist, who is right etc...

When did white man come here?

Or when did white man come from?

Are we a mix race?

Are we realted to any other race? eg. Arabian? do we stem from Persia? (Iraq Iran area)

perhaps a link to the war there?

[K626]

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)

Posted by norman (here)
Why do you think it's mostly been unintentional SID?

It seems that they created man as a type of slave, possibly to mine gold, that is one theory.
There are gold mines on the planet that predate recorded history, so that is a possibility and also explains why there is no missing link.
Once they got what they wanted, I suppose they went elsewhere.
There was a war on the planet where man fought the gods, as you would find in the Vedas.
Some of them, probably Enlil/Jehovah and Marduk never left, they may have been marooned.
All of this, what we call civilisation may be a support system for them until they can get off of Earth and go home, or help arrives.
That could also explain the world government and the need they have to reduce the planet's population to conserve resources.
So, this, what we call existence is probably not what they intended when they genetically engineered man.

True. Things have changed, otherwise we wouldn't have even reach a 'homo sapiens' stage. First impressions go a long way, and I think we have impressed some of them enough, that they not only have let us behave more freely, but they also showed us and taught us things.

Regarding population reduction - there are enough resources to go around for more than 40 billion humans. Its not a matter of resources. Its a matter of management. You can manage 500 million people more easily then you can manage 7 billion, don't you agree?

We are reaching a number that is harder and harder to control and keep in order.

The hidden story is the naked and wanton consumption of the west and also the waste of energy resources. America alone wastes over 50% of the energy it consumes. Startling and unbelieveable that number may be...
Resources are being used as tools for profit and trading and also as weapons against poorer countries who are forces to take more BANK LOANS to pay old debt to get new loans to buy basics like food and water.
It is really a CONSUMPTION issue right now rather than a population issue.

The cost in energy and materials to build one western family car could feed and water and supply energy to an average African or Indian village for a month.

These are the REAL issues and comparisons that can help people understand what is going on, but of course they never make the news.

cheers

K

[Lord Sidious]

Posted by jimbojp (here)
I just want the madness to end too. If i'm making an omelette I dont't want it repeating on me! Isn't that what happened last time.

I don't know who enki and enlil are and I don't think I will ever know looking at history.
Could enlil and enki be considered as metaphors, light side/dark side if you will ?

Enki and Enlil are gods of the Sumerians who were probably extra terrarestrial in origin.
They could be used as metaphors, but most of the metaphors are probably about them to begin with.

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Lord Sidious (here)
PS Mods, are you going to let majanugget or whatever his name is just derail this thread too?
We are trying to debate something that he obviously has issues with.
Let him go debate scratch and match tickets or something.

Shortly ago, we removed a couple of posts from this thread (so those reading the thread now will find Lord Sidious's PS to be strangely lacking in motivation.)

There is a difference between (1) limited, respectful, and productive dissent, and (2) disruptive or disdainful dissent.

One is encouraged, the other discouraged, and the mod team gets the last vote on which is which.

Carry on.

Thanks bovinenugget.

Posted by LeoNorth (here)
I'm not sure that war is the answer. Why not just give Lord Enlil a starship and enough fuel and he can go where ever he wants.

In all likelyhood he will do something to another group.
Why let dirtbags continue their actions?
Some of us were conditioned to be warriors and were built for it.
I was.
So when the darkness comes out of me, I want to destroy the ones who control that darkness.
I want the madness to end, because there are people on this planet I care more about than my own existence.
Knowing that they would be free would mean I would have the armour and weapons out in seconds.
Much like the samurai of old, it is possible to go to your own end singing and full of joy.
Many of you are not conditioned and built for conflict, let those who are go.
My handle is only partly in jest.

Posted by OnyxKnight (here)
True. Things have changed, otherwise we wouldn't have even reach a 'homo sapiens' stage. First impressions go a long way, and I think we have impressed some of them enough, that they not only have let us behave more freely, but they also showed us and taught us things.

Regarding population reduction - there are enough resources to go around for more than 40 billion humans. Its not a matter of resources. Its a matter of management. You can manage 500 million people more easily then you can manage 7 billion, don't you agree?

We are reaching a number that is harder and harder to control and keep in order.

I do agree, this is all about control, nothing else.

Posted by jimbojp (here)
I'd like to be right too, but at the moment I'm running on faith.

Does her husband know about this?

[oceanz]

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/topics/Iran

Iran in modern Persian derives from the Proto-Iranian term Aryānā, first attested in Zoroastrianism's Avesta tradition. Ariya- and Airiia- are also attested as an ethnic designator in Achaemenid inscriptions. The term Ērān, from Middle Persian indigenously known as " Ērān (written as ''ʼyrʼn) is found on the inscription that accompanies the investiture relief of Ardashir at Naqsh-e Rustam. In this inscription, the king's appellation in Middle Persian contains the term ērān (Pahlavi ''ʼryʼn), while in the Parthian language inscription that accompanies it, the term aryān describes Iran.

In Ardeshir's time, ērān retained this meaning, denoting the people rather than the state. The name Iran is a of Aryan, and means "Land of the Aryan's".

Lots of artifacts found in Iran dating back from around 2.5 million years ago.
I think the Sumerian Civilization started 9,000 B.C in neighbouring, Iraq?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer

The Samarra bowl (the swastika is a reconstruction)

Enki in the south at the temple in Eridu. Enki was the god of beneficence, ruler of the freshwater depths beneath the earth, a healer and friend to humanity who in Sumerian myth was thought to have given humans the arts and sciences, the industries and manners of civilization; the first law-book was considered his creation.

Fresh water depths beneath the Earth - under the ice in Antartica?

Enlil, lord of the ghost-land, in the north at the temple of Nippur. His gifts to mankind were said to be the spells and incantations that the spirits of good or evil were compelled to obey.

Seems plausible that these half brothers who are polar opposites would be as far away as possible (north and south).