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    Quote Old question, old answer: inflation of fear
    Its not only fear; its also wilful blindness; inertia; naivety etc etc. People need a lot of information to make the world a better place which they won't get when they chose to live in a mental rose garden.

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    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
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    Read your own books, they tell you it is meant to be this way.
    It is because many people argue over what sermon to give today and not what to do about evil.
    the ball is in our court

    the change is in our hands

    we can make a difference if we want ; )


    a good act goes a long way and is never wrong

    but one needs to know the difference between good and evil


    else one might do evil and think it's good
    What is it you feel is to be our measure for how to make the judgment on what is good and what is evil?

    The barriers of your belief will form the bars which imprison your mind.

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    Quote Posted by 161803398 (here)
    Quote Old question, old answer: inflation of fear
    Its not only fear; its also wilful blindness; inertia; naivety etc etc. People need a lot of information to make the world a better place which they won't get when they chose to live in a mental rose garden.
    It's what thought emphatically rejects when confronted with the truth and that is why the person will fall back into fear, unless they have courage to deal with it.

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    are you aware that you're harassing a saint here

    do you know the punishment for that ?

    coz I want to know

    lol
    The devil will give me a crate of Jack Daniels.
    And would that be a good act - or an evil act, M'lord?

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    are you aware that you're harassing a saint here

    do you know the punishment for that ?

    coz I want to know

    lol
    Just checking - You're not really feeling harrassed are you, Redezra? This is a fun conversation - would hate to think you weren't enjoying yourself

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    Just checking - You're not really feeling harrassed are you, Redezra? This is a fun conversation - would hate to think you weren't enjoying yourself
    no I'm not feeling harassed and I'm enjoying it as well ; )


    back in the OT times the prophets of God were rewarded with stones and even the Son got a crown of thorns before getting strung up on a cross

    that's how we deal with those that dare speak truths

    there is something very wrong with the world but I am not surprised


    I am aware of the Adversary and I see him as the shining one to the PTB

    he is a former Archangel before he fell from grace with his legions


    do you know the power of an Archangel ?

    all the people in the world put together are no match for them


    there is evil and vice and there is good and virtue

    and they both got a champion to pursue the path and fight the cause


    think about it ! evil must come from somewhere

    it must have a source and that source is a fallen Archangel

    who was too proud to bow his head to Adam the clayman


    you think the Bible is false ?

    No No it has been preserved by the blood of the saints and the prophets


    you are just under a hypnotic spell and massive mind control

    such is the power of an Archangel ; )
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    Just checking - You're not really feeling harrassed are you, Redezra? This is a fun conversation - would hate to think you weren't enjoying yourself
    no I'm not feeling harassed and I'm enjoying it as well ; )

    back in the OT times the prophets of God were rewarded with stones and even the Son got a crown of thorns before getting strung up on a cross

    that's how we deal with those that dare speak truths

    there is something very wrong with the world but I am not surprised

    I am aware of the Adversary and I see him as the shining one to the PTB
    he is a former Archangel before he fell from grace with his legions

    do you know the power of an Archangel ?
    all the people in the world put together are no match for them

    there is evil and vice and there is good and virtue
    and they both got a champion to pursue the path and fight the cause


    think about it ! evil must come from somewhere
    it must have a source and that source is a fallen Archangel
    who was too proud to bow his head to Adam the clayman

    you think the Bible is false ?

    No No it has been preserved by the blood of the saints and the prophets

    you are just under a hypnotic spell and massive mind control
    such is the power of an Archangel ; )
    Redezra, I note you identify with .... 'that's how we deal with those that dare speak truths'. If there are many who hold those beliefs, then maybe that is why 'there is something very wrong with the world but I am not surprised'. All else that you state, if i do not find any truth in it, why will it hold me to those concepts? I mean, how can it?

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    Redezra, I note you identify with .... 'that's how we deal with those that dare speak truths'. If there are many who hold those beliefs, then maybe that is why 'there is something very wrong with the world but I am not surprised'.
    how does the PTB deal with those that tries to blow the lid about the dealings of the PTB ?

    who's fault is it if one doesn't recognize facts and truths ?

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    Redezra, I note you identify with .... 'that's how we deal with those that dare speak truths'. If there are many who hold those beliefs, then maybe that is why 'there is something very wrong with the world but I am not surprised'.
    how does the PTB deal with those that tries to blow the lid about the dealings of the PTB ?

    who's fault is it if one doesn't recognize facts and truths ?
    The point is, Redezra, you identify with them and I do not'. And why do you think we have to fear them? If you trust Love, what is there to fear?

    As to your question, whose fault is it, I take responsibility because I recognise that I am the world and the world is me. There is no separation. I am quite aware of history and, as to the bible, Daniel slew the Giant. I question all the violence.

    My understanding is that god is LOVE, nothing less and totally ALL.

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    The point is, Redezra, you identify with them and I do not'. And why do you think we have to fear them? If you trust Love, what is there to fear?
    I identify myself with humanity as I am also human

    and that is what is ment with the term 'Son of Man'


    I'm not talking about fear or fearing them but when they are as real as you and me then I think you need to know about it ; )
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    The point is, Redezra, you identify with them and I do not'. And why do you think we have to fear them? If you trust Love, what is there to fear?
    I identify myself with humanity as I am also human

    and that is what is ment with the term 'Son of Man'


    I'm not talking about fear or fearing them but when they are as real as you and me then I think you need to know about it ; )
    Redezra, thank you for your concern. I actually do know about them, not everything there is to know, but I know not to be afraid.

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    I say, for truth of discussion, seek what the ancients knew; human arrogance and need, as well as "the few" and "those others" have clouded truth by chance and design.

    I now remain silent in this thread.

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    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
    no I'm not feeling harassed and I'm enjoying it as well ; )


    back in the OT times the prophets of God were rewarded with stones and even the Son got a crown of thorns before getting strung up on a cross

    that's how we deal with those that dare speak truths

    there is something very wrong with the world but I am not surprised


    I am aware of the Adversary and I see him as the shining one to the PTB

    he is a former Archangel before he fell from grace with his legions


    do you know the power of an Archangel ?

    all the people in the world put together are no match for them


    there is evil and vice and there is good and virtue

    and they both got a champion to pursue the path and fight the cause


    think about it ! evil must come from somewhere

    it must have a source and that source is a fallen Archangel

    who was too proud to bow his head to Adam the clayman


    you think the Bible is false ?

    No No it has been preserved by the blood of the saints and the prophets


    you are just under a hypnotic spell and massive mind control

    such is the power of an Archangel ; )
    I don't think the bible is false, necessarily - but I don't think it is literal either.

    Where does evil come from? The ego.
    This good and this evil that religion would have people believe is due to outside influence is within us- the devil and god is with us. It is the ego illusion and the soul realisation.
    If we think it's other than within us - then we'll always be focusing and looking for answers and accountability in the wrong place.

    Which could well answer to your pondering as to why the world is in such a sorry state.
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    Quote Posted by RedeZra (here)
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    Redezra, I note you identify with .... 'that's how we deal with those that dare speak truths'. If there are many who hold those beliefs, then maybe that is why 'there is something very wrong with the world but I am not surprised'.
    how does the PTB deal with those that tries to blow the lid about the dealings of the PTB ?

    who's fault is it if one doesn't recognize facts and truths ?
    What you ASSUME to be facts and truth.
    That is what you meant, alhtough not what you said.

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    Most ancient traditions identified the ego as the devil ,even if they didn't use precise psychological terms. Then the Abrahamic traditions came along and we lost sight of what 'evil' really is. It became external instead of an internal mechanism that required masterly. The great leveler here, we all have the devil inside of us so its rather hypocritical to assign values of good and evil..

    The ego (the devil) is what assigns values like good and evil.

    That is where such lack of self accountability comes from in organized religions, its easy to blame some invisible man in red suit rather than developing self mastery.

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    When we consider the bible has been in the editorial hands of the very people who would most benefit from a certain interpretation of it, it cannot be surprising to consider the possibility that it has been changed to support that certain interpretation. My advice (if you'll forgive me) is this: take what it useful and cast away what is not useful; when all else is considered, the utility of a biblical verse will always matter more than the truth. Pick the good bits, the bits that say "love thy neighbour as thyself" and leave as unenlightened the unhappy lines like 'suffer ye not a witch to live'. Perhaps the biggest test the god of the bible ever provided for his followers was an imperfect book they had to dissect and separate into wholesome and unwholesome portions according to a more perfect and resolute inner spiritual truth.

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    I always envisioned a time when we were all taken up to heaven to find God gleefully dancing about with a Bible: "You believed this? Make me laugh. All of you go to hell."

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    The point is, Redezra, you identify with them and I do not'. And why do you think we have to fear them? If you trust Love, what is there to fear?
    I identify myself with humanity as I am also human

    and that is what is ment with the term 'Son of Man'


    I'm not talking about fear or fearing them but when they are as real as you and me then I think you need to know about it ; )
    Hi Redezra - maybe these demons and reptilians are just different names for the same thing?

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    The point is, Redezra, you identify with them and I do not'. And why do you think we have to fear them? If you trust Love, what is there to fear?
    I identify myself with humanity as I am also human

    and that is what is ment with the term 'Son of Man'


    I'm not talking about fear or fearing them but when they are as real as you and me then I think you need to know about it ; )
    Hi Redezra - maybe these demons and reptilians are just different names for the same thing?
    Also, Redezra, sometimes what you write can act as a mirror.

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    Quote Posted by Teakai (here)
    Hi Redezra - maybe these demons and reptilians are just different names for the same thing?

    yes reptilians are probably a new name for fallen angels

    there is a difference between fallen angels and demons as fallen angels are the fathers of demons

    demons are the spirits of the Nephilim which were the Giant earthly offspring of the fallen angels


    humanity has not only a ego problem because of maya or ignorance

    but we also have an Adversary in the form of a fallen Archangel and his ilk as angels too suffer from ignorance but in a lesser degree than mankind


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