Parasitic Non-Organic Multidimensional Beings

[Darla Ken Pearce]

From this thread, it is easy to see how these 3D constructs get created out of the whole cloth of your own mind. Once you realize that you are creating these creatures and then, finding solutions as some kind of taliman or cure. Well, it's pretty freaky to say the least, at least IMHO.

By promoting these demons, you yourself are bringing them into being ~ first, in your own mind and then, they manifest upon the Earth.

It's not a good place to dwell again, IMHO, and I believe you give them power over your own lives. I hope you can see this and ask your own very real guides for assistance. There is enough light now on Earth to dispel the darkness of these dark and foreboding constructs.

To keep them alive and create more ~ is a clear choice you are making right now in this moment in time. It's not a good idea and it will block your path into higher and happier frequencies available to all now. Again, this is your very own choice and no one wants to take it away from you. We tend to settle in among others like us who share the same vibe whether dark, light or in between. If this is where we are happiest, then it's all good. xoxoxox

[joamarks]

Darla Ken Jensen Pearce:

By promoting these demons, you yourself are bringing them into being ~ first, in your own mind and then, they manifest upon the Earth.

i completely agree with you.

yes, we made a choice to create this demons our selfs, but often as a child a long time ago.
even now if you have a open mind with a wide awareness, it's still possible for the mind to find a blind spot and create them. (in the great sea of the subconsciousness)

this awareness of being the creator of your own monsters and the willingness to give up on them, even with the help of spiritual guides didn't work for me completely.

but then again, i always tried to fight them.

this "feeding your demons" link is taking the love route.

which is completely a new point of view, in this context, to me.
still its very difficult to clear out the old strong ones.
because they are so interwoven in our lives, its hard to distinguish them from your own thoughts.

Once you realize that you are creating these creatures and then, finding solutions as some kind of taliman or cure

i prefer a "clean cut of the demons without the "intellectual blabla" about how to do it, but till now i didn't found one.

[DNA]

dkjp and joamarks. No offense but did the plague or polio get cured with positive thinking?
If your loved one comes down with a pathogen that is life threatening,,,do you chide them for creating it themselves? Or do you take them to the hospital.
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By promoting these demons, you yourself are bringing them into being ~ first, in your own mind and then, they manifest upon the Earth.

I disagree, I am just pointing out what I have perceived. And giving a venue for others to do the same.
I don't go to your threads and point out the dangers of chanelling,,,especially when chanelling overly optimistic messages that take away from the fact that this is a predatory universe we live in.
If you disagree, try and give me an example of the last time you ate something that wasn't alive at some point.

All I am doing is illuminating the beings that live just outside normal perception, that feed parasitically. That is all.
I do no refer to them as demons.
They simply need to feed. Same as you or I.
As a matter of fact, I have helped untold ghosts cross over to the other side, ghosts who were engaged in this parasatism.

To keep them alive and create more ~ is a clear choice you are making right now in this moment in time. It's not a good idea and it will block your path into higher and happier frequencies available to all now. Again, this is your very own choice and no one wants to take it away from you. We tend to settle in among others like us who share the same vibe whether dark, light or in between. If this is where we are happiest, then it's all good. xoxoxox

Pasteur discovered germs in 1822. Don't you think this discovery would have been made sooner if the church wasn't around trying to tell everybody how or what to think?
I personally don't believe in telling people what to think.
I believe in offering up information in the form of a hypothesis and letting people make decisions for them selves.
I am interested in offering my personal experiences in this matter,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,being as that is the spirit of Avalon, I do believe, in the hopes that someone may benefit from them.
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It's not a good place to dwell again, IMHO, and I believe you give them power over your own lives. I hope you can see this and ask your own very real guides for assistance. There is enough light now on Earth to dispel the darkness of these dark and foreboding constructs.

I disagree.
I've talked with my guides.
Earth isn't supposed to be heaven on earth. I'm sorry, it's not. Earth is first and foremost a class room. A learning experience.
We spend eternity as spirits in a heaven world, why would we want the same here?
There is no progress in heaven. That is why we incarnate in the physical.
And no, your guides are not going to answer all your prayers and solve all your problems.
That takes away from the learning experience.
We are meant to learn through free will. What kind of free will is there,,,,,,if for every situation you expect parental type guides to answer all your questions?
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[DianeKJ]

There actually seems to be some fear attached to even discussing these matters for some reason. I noticed this to a certain degree on the Mind Control thread. Carry on

[joamarks]

No offense but did the plague or polio get cured with positive thinking?

who claims that viruses and bacteria are connected to demons, or entities who are cleared out by positive thinking?

we all have some kind of bad bugs in our bodies. the difference why one person gets sick and the other not has nothing to do with moral standards.
but i can assure you, "positive thinking", (or better said, the will to surrender to a form of believe) is a major player in getting better.

to change the fighting in giving or loving is maybe not a solution for everybody but it may help some.

this reminds me of one quote i heard somewhere. it said something like this:

when Darwin said the strong will survive it does not mean the best will survive.
there is enough proof through history, where complete civilizations were slaughtered by "low minded savage people", simply because the smart ones just refuse to fight.

you can say this is a stupid idea to chose death above fight, but if you see being on earth as a "classroom visit" and one believe in reincarnation, perhaps in a other life this choice will give a rewarding opportunity

i have to admit there is a difference between demons and multi dimensional entities feeding on us.

however fear is the portal to become a nice piece of steak for both of them
in this respect they all work through this simple system and are the same.

[bearcow]

some years ago, i was down in brazil and decided to spend some time in abadiania, hometown of the much publicized john of god. I was staying near the healing center in the posada of a german man, who was a long time friend and follower of joao. Dinner was served cafeteria style, and his family ate dinner with the guests each night.

One of the stories told to me by his son (the father's English is not so good and my version of Portuguese is broken Spanish lol) one night illustrates a point that should be considered in regards to non physical entities. people come from all over the world to receive healings from joao and gain spiritual insight. at dinner, his son told me a story of a particularly arrogant french couple who were boasting to people at joao's compound of their abilities to heal anybody of their illness or excise any negative entity attached to people with their spiritual gifts. Joao questioned them along these lines, they proudly said they have never failed in such matters. The german posada owner was standing nearby, and suddenly found himself overwhelmed by what he described as a maniacal force that took control of his body. he was still self aware, but had lost control of all his bodily functions, he was running around the room screaming like a madman, unable to stop his actions no matter how hard he tried. Joao then told the french couple to give it their best shot. Needless to say they failed miserably, and had a healthy serving of humble pie. Once they admitted defeat, Joao turned to the man and suddenly the entity that had control of his body was gone as mysteriously as it had came.

Regardless of how disciplined your thoughts are, there are immense entities out there that can overpower you, they are not kept at bay by your will, but by the grace of heaven, and by masters that partially closed the doors between the worlds in ancient times to protect the average person from these nefarious influences. some people do give limited life to lesser parasitic entities because of habitual worrying paranoia etc, but these types of elementals are not as problematic and can be dealt with by character development. you have your own karma, but you are also subject to the karma of the world playing itself out. ie not everyone who was raped was a rapist in previous life, also not everyone dealing with forms of negative astral entities are directly accountable for their plight based on the content of character or quality of their actions.

[DNA]

Posted by bearcow (here)
some years ago, i was down in brazil and decided to spend some time in abadiania, hometown of the much publicized john of god. I was staying near the healing center in the posada of a german man, who was a long time friend and follower of joao. Dinner was served cafeteria style, and his family ate dinner with the guests each night.
One of the stories told to me by his son (the father's English is not so good and my version of Portuguese is broken Spanish lol) one night illustrates a point that should be considered in regards to non physical entities. people come from all over the world to receive healings from joao and gain spiritual insight. at dinner, his son told me a story of a particularly arrogant french couple who were boasting to people at joao's compound of their abilities to heal anybody of their illness or excise any negative entity attached to people with their spiritual gifts. Joao questioned them along these lines, they proudly said they have never failed in such matters. The german posada owner was standing nearby, and suddenly found himself overwhelmed by what he described as a maniacal force that took control of his body. he was still self aware, but had lost control of all his bodily functions, he was running around the room screaming like a madman, unable to stop his actions no matter how hard he tried. Joao then told the french couple to give it their best shot. Needless to say they failed miserably, and had a healthy serving of humble pie. Once they admitted defeat, Joao turned to the man and suddenly the entity that had control of his body was gone as mysteriously as it had came.
Regardless of how disciplined your thoughts are, there are immense entities out there that can overpower you, they are not kept at bay by your will, but by the grace of heaven, and by masters that partially closed the doors between the worlds in ancient times to protect the average person from these nefarious influences. some people do give limited life to lesser parasitic entities because of habitual worrying paranoia etc, but these types of elementals are not as problematic and can be dealt with by character development. you have your own karma, but you are also subject to the karma of the world playing itself out. ie not everyone who was raped was a rapist in previous life, also not everyone dealing with forms of negative astral entities are directly accountable for their plight based on the content of character or quality of their actions.

What an excellent experience getting to visit Brazil. Did you get to meet John Of God? What was he like?
What was this Joao like? I've never heard of him.
Did you get to inbibe, in so far as the famous ayahuasca vine is concerned?
I have never had the oppurtunity, and to be quite honest, I don't know if I would. My assemblage point, if you get my meaning,,,moves rather easilly, and far less medicine is adequate in terms of moving it rather well in my case.
But, if circumstance permitted, and spirit gave me sign,,,I would do it (the ayahuasca).
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I liked the part where you mentioned that the ancients had erected protective barriers to keep us safe from dark forces that would over power men.
There are a lot of corrolations there.
HP Lovecraft comes to mind. In his books, the ancients did just that.
Drunvello Melchezidek in his book "The flower of life" talks about Martians who ignited a warp in space time through activation of a mechanism that employed an artificial life emanating "merkaba" back in early Atlantean times. He said this incident unleashed an untold number of hyper dimensional beings into our world. Strangely enough as a personal note to that, it seems like Jim Marrs talks about a very similiar experiment being done by nazi germany called the nazi bell experiemnts. Germany it seems was instructed by negative ETs to construct this instrument.
I should also mention that Melchezidek makes use of the "pandoras box" metaphor in conjunction with the Atlantean incident.

What ancients do you speak of ? And what works do you reference them from?

Enjoyed your experience immensly Bearcow, as always, and thank you for sharing them.

DNA

[MariaDine]

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

«I do believe there are people who have been inhabited by some negative entities and have no recollection of their actions that have landed them in mental institutions/prisons.
I don't agree with that. »
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Coment from DNA

«It's been my experience that "possesion" as a rule,,,does not exist in so far as pure non-organic entities are concerned.
I'm no expert,,,,and I could be wrong,,,but,,,I am going to commit to my statement.
Now,,,the exception may be when you mix a knowing organic or physical being into the equation to assist in such dreadfull matters.
I'm only speculating,,but,,,,abductions and implants may produce such effects. »
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DNA refers here not possesion, but the presence of obsessors presence in the aura, that can be from this life or that may be caried from other lifetimes.

Namasté

[Roseheart]

I know someone who went to see John of God and was cured of hepatitis... the bad one you get from sharing needles - he used to be a heroin user. He's been in good health since.
I would love to hear more about you're experience too Bearcow - that was a great post. Thanks.

[MariaDine]

Posted by Roseheart (here)
Thank you DNA for this fascinating thread.
I have a question.
I saw and heard many things as a teenager that scared me and I basically turned my awareness away and concentrated on the material world for many, many years.
I have now come full circle and I am opening up again...
I am seeing lights a lot now. They are white or sometimes a beautiful blue colour. They flash on walls and sometimes on the floor/ground. I have become very used to them.
Also I am seeing black flashes too though. They will appear on the wall next to the t.v sometimes. I don't have the same level of comfort with these. Even now, writing about them is making me feel odd - a bit hot and uncomfortable. They are only small. It's like the wall has a little opening and closing or something. They will open and close off to the side of my view...
This is not happening constantly but is a daily event for me now and thought you might know what is going on... I'm not afraid, I just would like some insight...
I am also seeing sort of ripples which are daily events too. When you look at a rip in the surf where water meets from different directions there is a line there - well this is what I see when I'm looking around sometimes, like a ripple in the veil...
Hard to describe these things. Anybody see them too?

Dear Heart !

You have a small portal of some kind in the living room. the house needs a cleaning with fumegation of california sage. in the mean while the portal must be close. A energy fenshui specialist may be a ggod choice. Personnaly, I know a turned mirror facing the wall corrected a problem of negative energies coming from the next room to the room ,where we saw those «things».

Hope this helps. Only, use the mirror solution after consulting the specialist becaue he may disagreed and it may not be good for your case.

Namasté

[Roseheart]

thank you MariaDine. lovely that you took the time. I see them other places too... The flashes appear on ceilings even. I'm very used to them now and nothing bad is happening. I'm growing quite fond of them actually. They are little.

[MariaDine]

Posted by DNA (here)

Posted by eva08 (here)
Thank you, for this thread. Very inspirational. I wanted to share my experience with Parasitic Non-Organic Multidimensional Beings. I have started to be more aware and see and differentiate more closely since the Credo Mutwa videos. I felt in one of them he described these higher dimensional parasites very clearly - that is my interpretation and my personal view. The alignment that presented itself to me was that in essence they are expert blackmailers, using "love" and other dings to buy into favors in order to blackmail and extract. Their essence is one of extraction, absorbtion, - like a vampire - and the thought combination that locks it in place is:
They need to be helped - but they cannot be helped. They're so "needy", "loving", whateverwhateverwhatever so they get you engaged helping - so they extract time, money, energy, thought. Creating my own boundaries in physical time, energy, space, thought space, thought energy, thought time has been a growing experience for myself, especially since nothing could latch on if there was nothing to latch on to - and that is my responsibility in unveiling for myself.
And then I can see with my inner eye this dark grey skinned ghoulish like ghost image appearing out of the body, like the overlord that keeps this mechanism in place. But it seems not easy to remove since the actual being is so weakened, almost nulled out, or absorbed. Pretty gross - but these frequencies are there with these engaging qualities. Nothing, BTW, that i ever encountered ever before in any meditation, technology. David Icke spoke about them some time ago and that was interesting. Please, comment

Hi Eva08,,,
Your encounter was fascinating.
I think one of the ways that these parasites stay hidden from us,,,is that there is no one size fits all explanation for them.
Not in terms of their appearance, nor in their specific manipulations of us humans in wanting to get our energy.
It would seem their methods for milking us humans for our energy are varied and alternating.
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I for one am not familiar at all with astral parasites using sweetness or love as a tool to get us to give to them.
It is interesting how you speak of an overlord,,,and to this I have some experience.
I have witnessed what I call a shadow being feeding on me,,and specifically,,,feeding on my sexual energy.
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I haven't talked about it yet,,,but,,,I'm supposing tonight or tomorrow I'll sit down and jot the experience down.
Shadow beings are not ghosts,,,,they are the absence of light. I had one appearing right in from of me,,,I thought it was a ghost,,,and I was reiki esque feediing it energy out of the palms of my hands.
This was in 04'.
This being cannot be seen by using the front vision,,as silly as it sounds,,,I had to keep moving my head from side to side,,,peering from the corners of my eyes.
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The reason I relate your story to shadow beings,,,is your mention of an "overlord seeing over all the mechanations".
I actually engaged in a dialogue with the shadow being I was feeding energy too.
I was attempting to talk it into passing over,,,,like it was a ghost.
This was not working.
It was not a ghost.
It conveyed it's fear of other entities like itself,,,,over itself,,,,,with more power than itself.
I then recieved the distinct impression,,,,,of this being having a line or filiament attached to me,,,that it used to find me where ever I went.
I then saw in my mind that this being had filiaments attached to him,,,and those beings had filiaments attached to them,,,,,upwards and upwards,,,creating a parasitic pyramid scheme if you will.
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I personally don't see anything reptilian about these beings,,,,these shadow beings,,,but,,,,they do seem to match exactly what Carlos Castaneda talked about when he called them mud shadows.
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Hello DNA !
You need a aura »shield«. Do the merkaba , the two piramids and use blue, pink and gold light. Do this every day in the morning. I talk from experience.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_VV_z4Oa2D-...2Bfeminina.jpg

Please notice that male and female merkaba are different.

Namasté

[MariaDine]

To Roseheart -

Sorry, I should have been more specific. I was only refering to the ones that are coming from behind the TV.

MD

[MariaDine]

Posted by DNA (here)

Posted by bearcow (here)
some years ago, i was down in brazil and decided to spend some time in abadiania, hometown of the much publicized john of god. I was staying near the healing center in the posada of a german man, who was a long time friend and follower of joao. Dinner was served cafeteria style, and his family ate dinner with the guests each night.
One of the stories told to me by his son (the father's English is not so good and my version of Portuguese is broken Spanish lol) one night illustrates a point that should be considered in regards to non physical entities. people come from all over the world to receive healings from joao and gain spiritual insight. at dinner, his son told me a story of a particularly arrogant french couple who were boasting to people at joao's compound of their abilities to heal anybody of their illness or excise any negative entity attached to people with their spiritual gifts. Joao questioned them along these lines, they proudly said they have never failed in such matters. The german posada owner was standing nearby, and suddenly found himself overwhelmed by what he described as a maniacal force that took control of his body. he was still self aware, but had lost control of all his bodily functions, he was running around the room screaming like a madman, unable to stop his actions no matter how hard he tried. Joao then told the french couple to give it their best shot. Needless to say they failed miserably, and had a healthy serving of humble pie. Once they admitted defeat, Joao turned to the man and suddenly the entity that had control of his body was gone as mysteriously as it had came.
Regardless of how disciplined your thoughts are, there are immense entities out there that can overpower you, they are not kept at bay by your will, but by the grace of heaven, and by masters that partially closed the doors between the worlds in ancient times to protect the average person from these nefarious influences. some people do give limited life to lesser parasitic entities because of habitual worrying paranoia etc, but these types of elementals are not as problematic and can be dealt with by character development. you have your own karma, but you are also subject to the karma of the world playing itself out. ie not everyone who was raped was a rapist in previous life, also not everyone dealing with forms of negative astral entities are directly accountable for their plight based on the content of character or quality of their actions.

What an excellent experience getting to visit Brazil. Did you get to meet John Of God? What was he like?
What was this Joao like? I've never heard of him.
Did you get to inbibe, in so far as the famous ayahuasca vine is concerned?
I have never had the oppurtunity, and to be quite honest, I don't know if I would. My assemblage point, if you get my meaning,,,moves rather easilly, and far less medicine is adequate in terms of moving it rather well in my case.
But, if circumstance permitted, and spirit gave me sign,,,I would do it (the ayahuasca).
.
I liked the part where you mentioned that the ancients had erected protective barriers to keep us safe from dark forces that would over power men.
There are a lot of corrolations there.
HP Lovecraft comes to mind. In his books, the ancients did just that.
Drunvello Melchezidek in his book "The flower of life" talks about Martians who ignited a warp in space time through activation of a mechanism that employed an artificial "flower of life" back in early Atlantean times. He said this incident unleashed an untold number of hyper dimensional beings into our world. Strangely enough as a personal note to that, it seems like Jim Marrs talks about a very similiar experiment being done by nazi germany called the nazi bell experiemnts. Germany it seems was instructed by negative ETs to construct this instrument.
I should also mention that Melchezidek makes use of the "pandoras box" metaphor in conjunction with the Atlantean incident.

What ancients do you speak of ? And what works do you reference them from?

Enjoyed your experience immensly Bearcow, as always, and thank you for sharing them.

DNA

Here you go---

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=l28RdLrSrXY

https://youtube.com/watch?v=wMQHz...eature=related

[bearcow]

What an excellent experience getting to visit Brazil. Did you get to meet John Of God? What was he like?
What was this Joao like? I've never heard of him.

All the stories about Joao are true, the surgeries are real. I didnt have any health issues of note so i wasn't cured of anything. I had some pm's with a avalon member regarding joao a few months ago. Ill post a edited version of the things i wrote regarding what goes on in the casa.

I had no health issues at the time. I went to see john of god for spiritual reasons. The part of the casa that is for healing is divided into 4 rooms. The first area is a common area, It is the place where people wait around before the healing work starts for the day. There is a small platform where joao can do a demonstration of healing on someone in the crowd before things get going. Generally most of the healings that are on video are done on the small platform in the common area. The next room is the first current room. If you are told to go there your responsibility for the day is to meditate, pray, in some way create positive energy to aid the entities in the healing of others. The second current room is generally where the physical surgeries take place, also joao will ask certain people to sit in that room and he will answer their questions or ask them to be more of an active participant in the healing process. The third room is where the spiritual surgeries take place, you basically sit on a bench and entities will work on your energy body.

The first day i was there, joao told me to go into the third current room for spiritual/energetic surgery. This was 9 years ago and i'm quite used to this sort of thing, so i don't remember too much the specifics of what they did to me that day. In general I can say that the concentration of postive astral energy/entities at the casa is greater than at any other location Ive been too. There are multiple entities/spirits working there and it seems to be a place where spirits are working in a coordinated way to help those who need a deeper understanding of their spiritual nature. On other days i was instructed to sit in the first current room and aid in the process of others being healed. I would go into a deep trance state quite easily there, more easily than any other location except times when i have trained with various masters in asia. I was there for 2 weeks, and was getting a little bored, so i asked for a physical surgery. They said ok. I asked them to do the eye surgery as for some stupid reason i was worried about getting a scar from a cut on my skin. I could feel the knife going in my eye, but no pain. The best analogy i can use is it is like dentistry work when you get a local anesthetic via Novocaine. The entities create a yin field that allows them to control the nervous system of the patient so no pain is felt. It is important to control your emotions as strong feelings of fear can override the integrity of the field and you can feel pain. In my opinion it is absolutely unnecessary to have a physical surgery done unless you have some sort of tumor that needs to be removed immediately. The purpose of the physical surgeries is to make the unbeliever believe, and to give people faith of a higher, benevolent power.

if the trip would be financially difficult on you, I would suggest that you send a photo down to the casa, with the specific request that he be made aware of the presence of the entities when they do the healing. The area of the casa is quite remote, although not terribly expensive. It would be less costly to go without a guide, after a few days you would figure everything out, the town is not big. There were plenty of people who spoke English there who were happy to help. With oprah doing a show about it a not long ago all the accommodations might be filled. I stayed at posada catarinense, I think it cost me about 20$ a day, that came with 3 hot meals that were quite good. The people there are long time followers of joao and have some interesting stories to tell. The capital Brasilia is not too far away but it is a day trip, it is worth seeing. Its quite far from the ocean. The healing centers grounds are quite nice but in general the town is poor and the soil is quite dry, this is nowhere near the rain forest.

Of course he is unique in the role that he plays but he is not a saint or enlightened master. He is a simple farmer, that has been through multiple divorces and health issues of his own that are a consequence of having other spirits occupy the body that is best suited for him.

It is different for everybody, in general the spirits cannot heal someone if they do not have a change of heart. a persons fear can interfere with the healing energies and sabotage the work of the entities.

I'm sure it did, i have experienced a lot of things like this and it was definitely one of the more important links in the chain. I guess looking back in helped me to recognize how to get into a deep trance state on a regular basis. It also helped me deal with the challenges in my life with more clarity.

You are aware that Joao does not do any of the healing himself? Spirits/entities take over his body and they do the work, he is by his own account a regular guy with a very unique role to pay.

I was thinking, seeing how bill is going down to south america shortly, someone who has his ear may want to let him know that it would be worth his while to do a side trip after the seminar to check out joao. It would be worth his time.

Did you get to inbibe, in so far as the famous ayahuasca vine is concerned?

No, they dont do that in the casa. Joao is associated with the catholic faith, he is not a shaman.

I have never had the oppurtunity, and to be quite honest, I don't know if I would. My assemblage point, if you get my meaning,,,moves rather easilly, and far less medicine is adequate in terms of moving it rather well in my case.
But, if circumstance permitted, and spirit gave me sign,,,I would do it (the ayahuasca).

my recommendation is to not do it unless your are 100% sure the shaman who is leading you through the experience has legitimate ability to communicate clearly with spirits and guide you through the experience safely. you don't know how your body will react to the drug, things can go wrong.

liked the part where you mentioned that the ancients had erected protective barriers to keep us safe from dark forces that would over power men.

this doesn't have specifically anything to do with joao but one of the taoist teachers i have studied with commented once that certain power points on the earth were shut in ancient times to counteract the influence of negative astral beings on humans. He said this is partially why human beings lost regular perception of the astral realms. There is a lot to this and how it allowed us to specialize the development of our left brain.

Drunvello Melchezidek in his book "The flower of life" talks about Martians who ignited a warp in space time through activation of a mechanism that employed an artificial "flower of life" back in early Atlantean times. He said this incident unleashed an untold number of hyper dimensional beings into our world. Strangely enough as a personal note to that, it seems like Jim Marrs talks about a very similiar experiment being done by nazi germany called the nazi bell experiemnts. Germany it seems was instructed by negative ETs to construct this instrument.
I should also mention that Melchezidek makes use of the "pandoras box" metaphor in conjunction with the Atlantean incident.

joesph farrells books speak of counter rotating drums filled with mercury.

the taoist alchemical path i practice one of the techniques is to create a bell in your field suspended from heaven

nazi bell experiments.

those hats look like bells, don't you think?

[9eagle9]

It amazes me that people can speak of ultra-dimensional constructs, parasiticals and demons and then plaster the universe the messages passed by the very same entities as some sort of truth. Even our worst obviously corrupted governments spread false messages of peace and empty promises of things to come that have never showed up.

The sort of intrusive parasitical demons (and I don’t’ mean that in a biblical sense) are one thing. They impose on the unwary, they template themselves after wounds, desire and wants.

But . There are a great many out there that wait for the victim to climb on the hook by choice based on their wounds, based on the inner emptiness that causes one to seek outside themselves for answers.

The Galactic Federation of Light is one such demonic parasite but this entire forum is subjected to its obvious ego reframing on a daily basis. Because it speaks positively but disabling messages people ignore it for what it is. Obvious no parasite is going to present itself as a feeding parasite. So it must present itself as something fair.

Disagree with the GFL, reveal it for what it is, and you will suddenly get an entirely different message from its adherents who serve to keep these energies in place. If you ignore an energy it will die on its own. Constructs need participants to keep them alive.

It a dense thought form, a sentiment come to life, and it uses sentimentality and warm phrases phrases that are meant to tie into the bereft emotional body—beloveds, my dear children. If people were truly fulfilled by their inner source they’d not be attracted to childish remarks. People who are spiritually mature don't need it, the spiritually uncertain do. And that is the primary target of the parasitical. They need emo manipulation to attach in to people’s wounds and loneliness and lack of self regard and tie in there. It encourages further separation and not integration.

The moment you disagree with it you are no longer part of the ‘one’. GLF states it’s impossible to separate us but the moment you have a dissenting voice you are suddenly, impossibly, no longer one but lost. Not a very steady consistent message.

Reframed common knowledge presented as original truths in order to engage the mental body who must constantly be reassured. It sounds familiar so it resonates, but only because you’ve heard it before. Verbal déjà vu. And always, the ‘you’ messages which of course means its directing these sentiments to ego. The ego will eagerly latch on to anything to keep one from delving into higher levels of one’s inner self.

The messages themselves assure us that ‘nothing’ is wrong, you are perfect, just sit still and do nothing, we are taking care of you.

So no one does anything on their own behalf like show their own spirit some willingness.

Many ultra dimensional parasitical will attach to people and convince them they are spirit guides. The GFL operates the same way. It’s the most popular of the ultra dimensional parasiticals that more often pose as light rather than dark for obvious reasons. No person is going to approach the dark for guidance, so they mind has to be conditioned to confuse the dark for the light.

Within this construct, no one is tempted to better their quality of life because some big daddy will maybe fly down one day. It was all hyped up that in October of 08 they would land. And they did not. And those who channeled for the GFL got a painful reminder of what they really are. They had their wake up call when they were abandoned. Spirit never abandons though.

The least that can be said about it is that its lazy making. The worst it robs you of the ability to communicate with your own source. That which is external is not one’s own source knowledge.

It will abandon you when the going gets tough. . I noticed its truth abandoned an adherent who decided they wanted to shut me up recently. I supposed they figured God was on their side. Spirit prevailed though and I’m still talking. The idle threats about these sorts of constructs being able to silence authentic voices is once again proved false. They have no true power, not the sort of power spirit provides. Spirit always prevails.

The GFL was patterned after modern political parties. Whomever is responsible for the template of this particular construct is is debateable, but people who buy into this are in one part responsible for the matrix building it provides. The PTB know very well how to manipulate though ones consciousness which is why it infiltrates popular religions and modalities and all forms of media. Including channeling.

Subliminals, which GLF messages are loaded with, are well known in common media. Why they aren’t spotted in this form of media is because the reader has been misdirected away from them. Or are simply unwillingly to see it for what it is. To those who have learned to differentiate between ego and SELF its obvious.

As an exorcist, most of the new thought people who were in need of an energy extraction had been dabbling in the GFL. Once it attaches it throws the door wide open to other attachments.

For decades these sorts of messaged make promises that …just don’t ever come to pass. Like the our political parties. As it is above so it is below. GFL is patterned and formed by a template of political thought its message has a core value of patriarchal Christianity. You are given a subtle message that you are too clueless to find your own way even as it steers you from the pathways to true inner guidance.

Herd mentality. Because its adherents are tied into a collective hive consciousness on the 4d level. Where the rest of the demon parasiticals operate at. Why does something that proclaims to live in such a pure light live in the same neighborhood as other parasiticals. Because they are of the same nature.

A person with just a touch of enabledness and even a first degree reiki practitioner can see this for themselves . Only a basic understanding of how energy is transferred makes it apparent how it works. They tie into people’s state of uncertainty and woundedness.

Someone posted a threader header today . Where you are focused is where your energy goes. And vice versa, where you are focused that energy comes and ties into you. Call it the law of attraction. You want someone to save you so you will find your way to a construct that promises to save you when we know that true salvation is found inside, where our connection to source is. The only external guidance we need is not guidance at all but someone to continue to support us in our inner work. Please do something for yourself, don’t wait till some unknown promised manifesation, SPIRIT works obviously and in the now. Not invisibly and in some promised future date.

That is where your true power to prevent wars, famine and sickness lies at not in some ufo hovering out there somewhere. We’ve heard THAT message a million times in different forms the whole of our existence.

THERE inside of ourselves is where we know that a concept of having to be saved by anything is meaningless.

Because ‘nothing’ is wrong with anyone no one is encouraged to do the self-work necessary that leads to that place, true integration, finding our unlimited potentials. If someone else is taking care of everything, for us, we’ve given up free will. Just like we did in tis realm of existence where we gave power and discernment over to the Vatican and politics.
And who would most benefit from that? Those currently controlling the masses via the 3d and 4d. It is common knowledge that the ptb is responsible for most organized religions, it is also common knowelde they can easily inflitarate that which is not true source knowledge and so they have. The GFL Is just one example.

When one finds a GFL adherent or one that is under the influence of any sort of parasitical, it’s very basic energy work to follow to where they are corded in at, and follow the cord to see where it leads to. All of life is based around energy transfer.

They never have any original thought, its just a repeat of what the GFL states to them, and burped back up again.

Follow the energetic backtrail that’s all and one will find out what something is for themselves. Look behind the façade and you will see it clearly for what it is. Its dark . Dark light. countless cords flithering off in all directions, its adherents plugging others in at this level of existence even as they are plugged in on the 4d level. A sort of collective hive mind.
Pull a string and it repeats because this is not a creative energy. It’s forced to repeat rinse repeat because it’s a program, it cannot produce anything original just alter the script slightly and keep dredging up the same old tired messages. . And those who are corded into it are programmed. Because it is ONLY a program. A continuously running thought form.

It is meant to curb your discernment and critical thinking skills and dampen your intuition as demonstrated on this forum quite recently by one its adherents. It’s brainwash and the brainwashed do not realize how they are contradicting the message even as they are delivering it. They do not hear how irrational they are, because the energy they are corded into is a script and they are programmed not to hear its obvious irrationalities or its contradictions. It’s encouraging you to go inside yourself even as it tells you its not necessary, they all have it in hand. Opposing contradictory messages.

It’s an agenda. That is why its adherents are so hell bent on plastering the universe with it-- that’s what people with an agenda or operate under an agenda do. Push it, push it, push it. It’s a fear energy. It must be represented over and over lest those who are observing forget it the way meaningless messages are often forgotten. They know the message is meaningless that’s why it has to be repeated constantly. Its an obsessive energy. One day must not go by without repeating it over and over.

When one is exposed to the truth once they never forget and no longer have to be reminded. One does not have to be reminded of what is known, but false messages have to be presented over and again because brainwash needs regular maintenance.

The ego mind learns through repetition.

The spiritual self knows by having spiritual expression demonstrate repeatedly. . It expresses, it makes things happen.

Ego mind learning just keeps the mind preoccupied with pacification so no one is tempted to do anything to create circumstances, the way spiritual expression causes things to happen instantaneously and in the now.

It’s just a subset and better developed type of parasite. Its adherents are used as battery stations to feed the construct, further imbed the programming, and great an even larger body of energy to program and feed from. That’s its agenda.

The message is that we are all one…until you disagree with how the parasite operates. Then suddenly the messages shift from you are all one to …well some of you are lost. It needs physical adherents who can vocalize against dissent because its primary operative is to drown out authentic voice and intuitive information. Its aim is to silence those who point out what is really is and shows (not tells) its true nature. Which is false.

The messages themselves framed around ‘YOU’ make it apparent it’s not framed around oneness but ego.

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Posted by MariaDine (here)
Hello DNA !
You need a aura »shield«. Do the merkaba , the two piramids and use blue, pink and gold light. Do this every day in the morning. I talk from experience.

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Please notice that male and female merkaba are different.

Namasté

Wow

I appreciate your contribution here MariaDine.
I am taking this seriously.
In 2005, I had a series of freak occurances, and there seemed to be a message for me there.
On a clear beautifull night, I recieved the strongest vibe, to sit on a public bench facing a particular direction, and wait. In about 20 mintues, a woman showed up. She was an older woman about 60, she sat about 50 feet away from me.
Our gaze met, she motioned for me.
This was wierd.
I started talking to her and she told me she was here in town to participate in a spiritual workshop of some sorts.
We started comparing sources and authors that had influenced us.
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After we talked for an hour, I asked her if she would like to get something to eat.
She agreed.
She told me about how she had been told she had a year to live, cancer.
She had sold her house and she was driving the country going to various spiritual seminars.
She was living in the moment. She was living in the now.
After dinner, I felt it was important to give her something to commemorate the encounter.
The only thing that felt right, was the necklace I was wearing.
The necklace was of the hindu god Kali.
That may sound macabre, but, Kali is a powerfull metaphor for me.
In Hindu lore, the mother universe was under attack by an unstopable demon.
The mother universe turned to Kali for help.
With each blow the demon recieved, a new demon would grow from the blood spilt.
So, Kali, after each blow, licked the blood from the demon, thus preventing the rebirth of new demons. And in so doing, saved the mother universe from the unstopable demon.
The metaphor here is when trying to meditate, each thought you dispell in an attempt to have a still mind,,spawns new thoughts. And as strange as this sounds I heard once that invoking Kali to silence those self replicating thoughts, works to silence them, I tried it, and it worked.
But, this isn't what it meant for Cathy, the woman I had met.
For her, this was a symbol of death and rebirth.
She took the necklace with both hands and began crying.
She thanked me repeatedly and I held her while she cried on my shoulder.
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That was the first and last time I ever saw Cathy.
About two weeks later I got two books in the mail.
One of which was Drunvello Melchezideks "Flower of Life".
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I gave the Merkaba excercise a try, but, I have to admit, I wasn't 100% sold on this Melchezidek guy and I did one of those put it on a shelf moves until I could come to a conclusian on wether I felt sold on this guy.
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I need to give this Merkaba exercise a try.
Thank You

[DNA]

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)

The sort of intrusive parasitical demons (and I don’t’ mean that in a biblical sense) are one thing. They impose on the unwary, they template themselves after wounds, desire and wants.

But . There are a great many out there that wait for the victim to climb on the hook by choice based on their wounds, based on the inner emptiness that causes one to seek outside themselves for answers.

The Galactic Federation of Light is one such demonic parasite but this entire forum is subjected to its obvious ego reframing on a daily basis. Because it speaks positively but disabling messages people ignore it for what it is. Obvious no parasite is going to present itself as a feeding parasite. So it must present itself as something fair.

It's hard for me to get past this phrase

Posted by 9eagle9 (here)
The sort of intrusive parasitical demons (and I don’t’ mean that in a biblical sense) are one thing. They impose on the unwary, they template themselves after wounds, desire and wants

You say this so quick and simply. You say it like folks should just get this and you don't have to expand on it or anything.
But,,,,I think a book could be written on these few words you state here.

I think your stating this to differentiate simple parasites to the more complex ones that you illustrate by pointing out the GFL (galactic federation of light).
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I absolutely agree with you on the GFL thing.
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Before six months ago, I may not have agreed so strongly.
But, I had an experience just last November.
I was having an extensive e-mail dialogue with a woman claiming to be chanelling the Plieadians. (For the record, I dig Billy Meier, but the beings this woman was chanelling were not the same folks in my opinion.)
When we disagreed on a few key points, I suggested we agree to disagree and move on, but she became fixated and wrote me incredibly long e-mails to support her points that were mute as far as I was concerned.(That there was a battle going on between angelic aliens(pleiadians) and satanic aliens (reptilians).) And that isn't why I'm mentioning it.
I personally don't buy the whole reptilian thing, but that is neither here nor there.
I'm mentioning it, because, I felt a psychic attack accompany the e-mails when I would read them.
Not so much from her, but I felt it was from the beings she channeled.
I don't want to get into it too much, but, I honestly felt it was dangeous for me to continue communicating with her.
I cease and disisted all communication with her.
And then I felt no more psychic molestation.
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It was then that I realized that these flowery types who claim to channel angelic/aliens and the sort, can be very dangeous.
For one thing, aliens who respected your autonomy would never present themselves as superior to you in any form(angelic), for they would never want you to subjucate your autonomy in any way by elevating their voice above your own.
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Aliens are incarnated beings just like you and me. Here to play out karma and learn through reincarnation.
They are not angels.
Period.
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I would like to know what the GFL really are,,,and the other corresponding channeled presentations. OnyxKnight in his thread My ET contact experiences (discussions/Q&A panel etc.) claims that the GFL are really automations, advanced AI.
Strangely enough, this has corrolations with the material on the WINGMAKERS website which claims that the fallen angels of the biblical lore are living in AI type bodies. There are also corrolations with a free PDF story available on the John Leer website ALIEN INTERVIEW with MATILDA O'DONNEL MACELROY.
In which Matilda Macelroy claims to have been present at Roswell when the craft went down, and to have communicated with the being via telepathy in the recovered craft. There is also corresponding material in the information Andijra Puharich brought to light in studying a UFO group communicating with the earth called THE NINE. Puarich then goes on to document the life of Uri Geller, who claims to be in contact with extraterrestrials as well, Puharich seems to think there is a connection between THE NINE and the biengs contacting URI GELLER. URI when asked point blank what the beings he is in contact are, states they are advanced robots, Artificial Intelligence.

I'm not saying this is what is going on.
I'm just trying to make corrolations.
DNA

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Posted by bearcow (here)
this doesn't have specifically anything to do with joao but one of the taoist teachers i have studied with commented once that certain power points on the earth were shut in ancient times to counteract the influence of negative astral beings on humans. He said this is partially why human beings lost regular perception of the astral realms. There is a lot to this and how it allowed us to specialize the development of our left brain.

I think it's important to note here how you said humans lost regular perception here.
I recently watched this excellent documentary on the Pyramids called "The band of Peace"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=al01-W2X-4o

And in it, they talk about how the ancient monoliths, are built along earth's natural ley lines.
I find this fascinating when contrasted to what Randy Winters says in conjuction to the Billy Meier contacts.
Winters says that the pyramids were built by a negative controlling ET race, that erected the megalithic structures along earth's ley lines in an attempt to impede, and disrupt the natural flow of earth's energies and as such impede and disrupt the development of the earth man's mind.
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I'm just throwing some corrolations out there.

But, then you have the Meier camp building a large pyramid to meditate in which is supposed to provide powerfull positive results.

Strange how we have this pyramid shape that is supposed to do so much, and we are discussing the Merkaba meditaiton as well.
It all fits some how.

[9eagle9]

Artificial Intelligence isn't anything compared to Natural Stupidity (*grin*) Wisdom from my beer cozy...heh heh...

I make my statements brief because this is an entire dimension we are talking about, so to fully express it in one post would be like trying to describe the entirety of the physical world we live in, in one post--all the various constructs, parasites, false archangels, false entities. But how it operates, replicates and draws people in and how to end that influence is very simple. You have fluff ball parasites that one can collect on daily basis that can be wiped off with a charged hand, up to the big hitters, the ones that have developed a sense of self awareness that require extraction. When they become that large the hosts become aware of them so I'm sure they think that some sort of entity is speaking to them. And they can basically present themselves in any fashion they like, just like people do here on earth. Perhaps what Omni was referring to. Those are the kinds that can scratch and draw blood. Even just becoming aware of their existence is enough to cause them to attack. The hosts usually become verbally abusive as well at that level.

Because the energy itself is parasitical the people who cord into this become parasitical Pests, they push push push this stuff like nobody's business, and it is a form of psychic attack with a physical agent. Many people cannot tap into where these constructs are so to better have influence they need physical representatives.. If you speak out about this stuff they take it personally, and attack. Compare that to a person who is really Christ Conscious or Christ centered. You say something unflattering about Christ or express a disbelief in it and they don't take it personally and shrug it off. So there's all sorts of litmus tests for this sort of thing.

Google Tulpa, and you find some experiences of how people created some of these nastly things in the physical reality.

We personally create 'roles' or artificial constructs in our subconsciouness that are hugely powerful and sometimes not of service to us that need to have intervention. The are usually created around something we dont' understand as a child, a past life memory or perhaps trauma or abuse imposed on them. So what occurs on a multi dimensional sense can occur here as well. As it is above so it is below..

The Kali story is very interestingly relevant. Shamanic people are the ones who most intervene with things of this nature, and one of the lessons the shamanic being has to learn is NOT to engage in the psychic battle, the fabled Shamanic battle. Once they do they cord right into that energy, and the battle becomes forever. Parasites need attention it doesn't matter if its good or bad, so the shamanic being learns to walk in, cut in all relevant attachments and walk out again instead of wresting control over it something they will have to continue attempting to control from that point on till they learn how to disrupt by disengagement. Sorta like cutting the air supply to a diver. Instead of going underwater to fight with the diver one just cuts off the means that supplies its energy. I think the Kali story brings that front and center in dealing with these sorts of things .