Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[Operator]

Posted by yiolas (here)
This just in from the Palaoa South Polar staion web cab. This bright sphere is coming into view just as the sun is setting.

Could be Venus or some other near planet. We should check it out.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VTM8b-fns-I

As we are nearing the summer solstice in the northern hemisphere how come that sun is even rising on the south pole while it
is more south than the arctic circle ?

I am not so sure we see the sun set at the left ... but if we do this video is not recent (11/6/2011).
B.t.w. this camera is facing north since the sun (or whatever we see) goes from right to left.

So it seems to add more question marks instead of solving them ...

[Operator]

Posted by greybeard (here)
Does anyone here know what is going on?---- you can tell me--- I wont tell anyone ---
Of course I would --- but tell me anyway --- OK!!!

Hi Chris,

Of course I don't know either ... but I have a strong feeling I am getting a clearer and clearer picture since recent weeks.

I think this representation of Pangaea is not correct:



Because it shows a globe with a lot of water and all continents glued together ...
I think the earth is, like the universe, expanding. There wasn't always that much water on the planet and Pangaea covered
the whole of earth. The continents aren't just drifting apart. They are pushed away from each other since the earth is blown
up from inside out. I heard about something strange how water is 'added' to this expanding earth. And then I even found an article
on it:

http://www.panspermia.org/streaks.htm

I think this is why we see an earth today with 5/7 covered with water and less 'dry land'. It also explains why there are currently cities all around
the globe that are submerged along the coasts. It also explains why the governments are worried about rising sea levels.

Somehow it has got to do with earth periodically coming into a region where there is more cosmic radiation and there is lots of material stating just that.
Also the magnetic field bends inward toward earth at the poles. That's why the aurora's are visible there.
So could that make the poles more interesting ?

The increasing number of sinkholes, cracks in the earth, swelling-up of water during the Japanese earthquake all point in this same direction.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-LPGzzaSsbU

UFO's are said to be stealing our water ... could they be helping us get rid of some before more will be added soon ?

There is one more thing that drew my intention: Clif High mentioning there will be rain so dense 'you could drown' being outside ..... Hmmm
Is that why they silently try to block radiation using chemtrails ?

More material that got stuck in my head, Revelation 12:

15 Then from his mouth the serpent spewed water like a river, to overtake the woman and sweep her away with the torrent. 16 But the earth helped the woman by opening its mouth and swallowing the river that the dragon had spewed out of his mouth.

So, I don't think it's tsunamis hitting shorelines but rather pouring rain that will cause flooding and havoc more and more.
Eventually cause the ocean levels to rise !

[yiolas]

Hi Operator,
There's nothing wrong with being sceptical, especially these days when we are being bombarded by so much info. coming from so many sources, so I decided to do some research of my own.

Below is a movie from the Palaoa web cab. This is the link to the site itself.http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/

There is another page on the site that has daily pictures in a chronoligical order. Now this is where it get very, very weird.
As I was writing this post and downloading some of the picture from the site, my computer crashed. Fortunately I had managed to save the two most important pics.
When I began to repost to the thread and copy the links to the pictures, I found that the picture from the web cam at 11.06.2011 11:55 UTC does not have the bright object in the right hand corner. The one I had downloaded only 5 minutes before with the time, date and place does have the bright object.

You can clearly see the place, time and date on the pictures.

http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/livemovieP.html

This is the link to the pictures page http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/pictoflastP.html

The picture at 13:55 is different from the one that I downloaded only a few minutes ago!! What's going on here ? Please look at the movie now !!, because since I last went to the site, the image of the spere is slowly being erased.

This is the picture that is on the web site now.


Here's the picture that I downloaded

[truthseekerdan]

This June 3rd Blog-Talk-Radio, is regarding the comet Elenin, the comet some people think is not a comet, but actually a brown dwarf star. We're going to talk about when this comet/planet is going to be nearing Earth and if it will be close enough to trigger an Extinction Level Event. Is this comet/brown dwarf the reason why google blacked out a part of google sky? why has NASA taken down its 'calculations' page regarding this object. Do they know something we don't? Notice: This is posted just for discerning minds, does not mean I endorse everything 100%... Enjoy!

Approximately 1 hour: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/nixiela...on-level-event

[bennycog]

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...533#post242533

I'll post a link of my q here too goodnight my friends

[Operator]

Posted by yiolas (here)
Hi Operator,
There's nothing wrong with being sceptical, especially these days when we are being bombarded by so much info. coming from so many sources, so I decided to do some research of my own.

Hi Yiolas,

Yes, there is nothing wrong with a debate as long as it is constructive.
I've contacted them with the 2 questions I have ...

1. Why sun rises/sets during the southern hemisphere winter
2. Direction to which camera is facing

I will get back with more info when I get an answer ...

Have a nice weekend

[ulli]

Yiolas

Are you saying the picture above is the same as the one below, minus the bright object?
What I see is a totally different picture, as none of the other details match.

I know for sure that in todays digital world and what with kids having fun with photoshop, even those working at serious professions might want to do silly games, even if only to get a laugh from their collegues. Then forget they are messing with truth.
And suddenly what started out as a little private joke is getting millions of people into panic mode.

sheesh, I never thought I would ever become a debunker in my old age, but in some situations it is warranted.
I live out in the country, watching the sky all the time, and see nothing out of the ordinary.
Except for the odd UFO, or hologram thereof.

[yiolas]

Double Post,
WTH

[yiolas]

What I'm saying is that, as I was saving pictures from their site to upload onto the Avalon thread my computer crashed. The picture that I downloaded from the "official.authentic" AWI site was different when I was able to go back to the site after restarting my computer.

The picture with the bright object in the upper right hand corner is no longer there. From what I now understand in the few minutes it had taken me to get back on- line they had changed the dates from the 11th of June to the 12th of June. You can clearly see the dates on the pictures. I did not alter the picture in any way !!

Looking at the movie now, you can still see a small part of this bright object in the far top right hand corner at 13:55.
Look for yourself. I have no need to make anything up. Play the movie in step by step mode.
http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/livemovieP.html

My suspicion is that the you tube video drew to much attention to what was on the web cam on the 11th that they hastily updated their photos and possibly slightly changed the position of the camera ever so slightly so as to not show this bright object, or the object (if it is moving rapidly) is not visible in that part of the sky at the same time as on the 11th.

[yiolas]

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by yiolas (here)
Hi Operator,
There's nothing wrong with being sceptical, especially these days when we are being bombarded by so much info. coming from so many sources, so I decided to do some research of my own.

Hi Yiolas,

Yes, there is nothing wrong with a debate as long as it is constructive.
I've contacted them with the 2 questions I have ...

1. Why sun rises/sets during the southern hemisphere winter
2. Direction to which camera is facing

I will get back with more info when I get an answer ...

Have a nice weekend

Hi Operator,
As long as your at it, why don't you ask them to show you the archive photos for the 24 hour period of the 11th of June which they have now taken off their site. Especially the one at 13:55 UTC 11.06.2011.

[ulli]

I don't know about the youtube video you are refering to,
but about the two photos above:
I understood your predicament of seeing a totally different picture after revisiting the site.
The same has happened to me in the past, and just like you, I also came to "conspiracy" conclusions...
and even now, when remembering some of the whistle blowers of the Disclosure Project, I don't dispute that there are cover-ups out there.

But as truth seekers with limited data, or too much data, dependent on your viewpoint, we have only our own intuition to rely on.

Mine just doesn't buy into the Brown Dwarf theory, or second sun type theories.

I do know however that consciousness is powerful. Up to a point.
There is our consciousness, still limited in it's power, but like a teenager who can create Poltergeist phenomena, it is real.

Then there is the consciousness of beings so evolved we are ants by comparison.

[yiolas]

Furthermore, After watching the you tube video I went directly to the Palaoa web cam site to confirm for myself that this video was authentic. IT WAS !.
I did not post this information to the thread until I had confirmed it for myself.
Little did I now that they would change the pictures in the short time it took me to post.

We should be very suspicious of this, because if the object was a neighboring planet it would have remained in the general vicinity in the sky for a few days, right ? So why was it there on the 11th and not on the 12th ?

Look at the you tube video again while it is still there.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=VTM8b-fns-I

[nearing]

Posted by DoubleHelix (here)
This may burst a few bubbles... Proof that Elenin is a Comet and not a Brown-Dwarf.

By none other than the very man who discovered Elenin - Leonid Elenin.

Today, June 10, 2011, is six months since the discovery of the first comet in the modern history of Russia. During this time our knowledge about the comet has greatly changed. In the first days after the comet’s discovery, the comet’s orbit did not inspire interest; C/2010 X1 (Elenin) was going to be a faint comet, visible only to telescopes equipped with CCD cameras. But after only the first week of observations, hope was growing that this comet might have a close perihelion, which was later confirmed.

During the last six months the comet has aroused a lot of interest among the people of the Earth; among the huge number of letters about the end of the world, I also received those about people who became interested in astronomy and observing, who bought telescopes and discovered for themselves the beauty of the night sky. This is possibly the most important effect caused by my comet. Of course the comet poses no threat to the Earth and all the rumors will end when it starts moving away from the Earth and Sun.

Source: http://spaceobs.org/en/news/

There's plenty of other posts made by Mr. Elenin if anybody cares to have a sticky beak.

This doesn't burst any bubbles that I can see.

The last video I posted on this thread ( not too far up) shows that ELENIN IS a comet - BUT that comet is a satellite of a Brown Dwarf. They move together, they are in same orbit around our sun. They are coming TOGETHER.

This makes everyone correct. It explains how we have been getting massive EQs when this comet aligns with us and the Sun or other planets, ect. - because the Brown Dwarf is aligned as well!

[ulli]

All I know is that the south pole at this moment is having their winter, ie total DARKNESS.
Those pictures are at the least 4 months old.


The next thought is that it was done with a wide angle lens, or panoramic lens, during full moon.

[nearing]

yiolas, that video is very interesting. What happens to that glowing body (Venus?) when it gets to top of frame? It looks like it has an ejection. Strange.

And the Sun isn't ever seen, Operator. It's just the 'glowing' in the left of the screen. So you are right about the season and the setting dictating that we wouldn't see the Sun. We only see some of it's light.

[yiolas]

Just go to the web site http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/ . They have a web cam which is updated daily. These are not last year's or last summers pictures.

[nearing]

Posted by yiolas (here)
Just go to the web site http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/ . They have a web cam which is updated daily. These are not last year's or last summers pictures.

It looks like they get a little light for about 5 hours during the day there at this time of year, judging from the video cam.

It IS very strange that that glowing body was there yesterday but not today!

[yiolas]

Posted by nearing (here)

Posted by yiolas (here)
Just go to the web site http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/ . They have a web cam which is updated daily. These are not last year's or last summers pictures.

It looks like they get a little light for about 5 hours during the day there at this time of year, judging from the video cam.

It IS very strange that that glowing body was there yesterday but not today!

Thank-you very much !! that's the whole point !! I know what I saw. I watched the you tube video, then I went to the web cam site and managed to see that their web cam movie for the day was the exact same one, frame by frame , as the you tube video.
So, please just amuse me for a second, and lets assume that the you tube video is authentic. The "object" is in picture frames 13:55 UTC-14:45 UTC or on the video timing from 25 seconds to 55 seconds. If you look at the current pictures (see attached) on the Palaoa web cam, you will see that they are taking pictures at the time as they did yesterday. There is no object in the picture at 13:55 UTC, but you will see a flickering of it in the 14:45 utc frame.
What can we assume from this ?
A: That the object was photoshoped out of the 13:55 frame
B: That position of the web cam was changed slightly.
C: That due to the fact that the earth is also moving around the sun as it rotates on its axis , the object will be seen in a slightly progressed position of the sky every day as captured by a stationary camera.

[yiolas]

Just to make it absolutely clear to everyone, I am not a fly by night poster. I've been a member of PA since March of 2010 and before that a member of PA1. I also have a life outside of Project Avalon . So between posting on the forum and searching for the truth, I also have a full time job as an accountant, I care for my elderly parents, 3 dogs, 1 cat, 20 or so chickens , grow vegetables and fruits year round in my garden and also enjoy doing diy projects with wooden pallets. In fact I constructed this garden bench in between my posts today !

[nearing]

Posted by yiolas (here)
Just to make it absolutely clear to everyone, I am not a fly by night poster. I've been a member of PA since March of 2010 and before that a member of PA1. I also have a life outside of Project Avalon . So between posting on the forum and searching for the truth, I also have a full time job as an accountant, I care for my elderly parents, 3 dogs, 1 cat, 20 or so chickens , grow vegetables and fruits year round in my garden and also enjoy doing diy projects with wooden pallets. In fact I constructed this garden bench in between my posts today !

VERY nice bench!

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Posted by yiolas (here)

Posted by nearing (here)

Posted by yiolas (here)
Just go to the web site http://www.awi.de/NM_WebCam/ . They have a web cam which is updated daily. These are not last year's or last summers pictures.

It looks like they get a little light for about 5 hours during the day there at this time of year, judging from the video cam.

It IS very strange that that glowing body was there yesterday but not today!

Thank-you very much !! that's the whole point !! I know what I saw. I watched the you tube video, then I went to the web cam site and managed to see that their web cam movie for the day was the exact same one, frame by frame , as the you tube video.
So, please just amuse me for a second, and lets assume that the you tube video is authentic. The "object" is in picture frames 13:55 UTC-14:45 UTC or on the video timing from 25 seconds to 55 seconds. If you look at the current pictures (see attached) on the Palaoa web cam, you will see that they are taking pictures at the time as they did yesterday. There is no object in the picture at 13:55 UTC, but you will see a flickering of it in the 14:45 utc frame.
What can we assume from this ?
A: That the object was photoshoped out of the 13:55 frame
B: That position of the web cam was changed slightly.
C: That due to the fact that the earth is also moving around the sun as it rotates on its axis , the object will be seen in a slightly progressed position of the sky every day as captured by a stationary camera.

I am hoping that this is the result of C, but from on day to the next it seems like too much of a change.