Possible Subterranean Culture Entrances

[Maia Gabrial]

Sounds like the militaries have got each entrance covered....
Maia

[Patrikas]

Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)
Interesting that the Cherokee also talked of 'Blue Men'.
I was listening to an interview the other night and the guest (cant remember his name) said that a race of Blue skinned Aliens came to the Earth and lived amongst the people for hundreds of years.
He claimed these people are whom the Hindus worship as gods (remember the Hindu Gods are blue skinned)



Cheers for this very interesting thread OP
Hurritt

I think there was also a reference to a blue man in Black Elk Speakes in recalling his Great Vision

[Holly Lindin]

Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)
I was listening to an interview the other night and the guest (cant remember his name) said that a race of Blue skinned Aliens came to the Earth and lived amongst the people for hundreds of years.
He claimed these people are whom the Hindus worship as gods (remember the Hindu Gods are blue skinned)

Hey, Hurritt, do you remember who the interviewer was or what the show was? Was it newly broadcast or something broadcasted some time ago? I would love to find this interview! Any information would be much appreciated. <3

[Carmody]

Another giant fact point. I hope this helps more people frame this subject. This is a cross post from this thread, into the below thread. Many thanks to the Original poster in this thread. (the one you are reading now) This was an important find:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ion-of-Lithium

Possible Subterranean Culture Entrances


4.Canada

Another entrance is found in the Nahanni Valley but many of those that have dared to enter this area have been found
decapitated, thus giving the region its name ‘The Valley of the Headless Men’. The Nahanni Valley in Canada is the land of
the Ojibways, the Slave, Dogribs, Stoney, the Beavers and the Chipweyans. It covers 250 square miles in the southern end of the
Mackenzie Mountains of Canada and lies almost 550 miles due west of Fort Simpson on the Mackenzie River of northwest
Canada. Hot springs and sulfur geysers keep the valley warmer than the surrounding areas by about 30 degrees year-round. This
land of perpetual mist is viewed by the Indians as ’taboo’ and avoided.

(to add, in the days of yore, you did ~NOT~ mess with the Ojibway. They were chief among all shamen in ancient North America.)
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I investigated. This is what I found:

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nahanni...l_Park_Reserve


In 1964, explorer parachutist Jean Poirel from Montreal jumped at its source 500 km North of Yellowknife, followed by his teammate Bertrand Bordet. Jean Poirel imagined the idea of going down the river with inflatable dinghies, opening the path to a new “rafting” sport. During the following four consecutive expeditions in the valley Jean Poirel discovered more than 250 caverns. The most important contained 116 Dall sheep’s skeletons (carbon-14 dated to 2500 years Bc); Jean Poirel named it "Valerie Cavern" after his daughter. He took topographic notes and drew detailed maps, paving the way for the park's creation. During his last expedition in 1972, he escorted Pierre Trudeau, who came in person to estimate this superb and fascinating region.[17][18]
[edit] Park History

Originally established in 1972, by then Prime Minister Pierre Elliot Trudeau,

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According to David Icke, Trudeau was a notorious child molester and satanist of the NWO.

Hot springs are generally of a Catalytic processes. Monatomic ---ALCHEMICAL. Generally mixed in with......the 'Platinum Metals Group'.


My comments (take notice of those specific points) are in bold.
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http://www.nahanni.com/newsletter/fall2005/?page=3

Mine site infrastructure was developed at Prairie Creek in the early 1980s as part of an attempt by the Texas-based Hunt Brothers to corner the world silver market. This included a winter access road, an airstrip, underground workings, buildings and a tailings pond which has its dam directly along the left bank of the Creek. In 1982 the price of silver collapsed, Cadillac Explorations went bankrupt and the mine project was abandoned. Currently, Canadian Zinc Corporation has acquired the mine leases and is attempting to bring the mine into operation.

The minerals of economic interest are zinc, silver, lead, and copper. From Geological Survey of Canada Open File publications I understand that the deposits, which are geologically ancient, are contained within a mixture of Vein Massive Sulphides. There is also much iron and exceptionally high concentrations of mercury, a very hazardous substance. (VMS) and Stratabound Massive Sulphides as ZnS, PbS,(aka--LEAD! and important alchemical metal) etc. The VMS deposits can be envisioned as precipitates from ascending hot fluids that are emplaced in vertical or near-vertical fractures created by the fluid pressures. The stratabound deposits were almost certainly emplaced in pre-existing dissolutional voids within the limestones and dolomites that the fluids spilled into from the fractures; this qualifies them as ‘Mississippi Valley-type’ (MVT) deposits, which are amongst the most common types of lead-zinc ores worldwide. This indicates that these rocks have been karstified in the past. I suspect that the karst caves served as preferential targets for the rising fluids in fact; this is a commonplace relationship (see e.g. Ford 1986, 1996). The most comprehensive published discussion of the nature and extent of such paleokarst globally (including MVT) is found in Bosak et al. 1989. I was the principal text editor, and contributed the chapter on these phenomena in Canada.

My field research team has firmly established that there are modern karst landforms, caves and groundwater aquifers displaying such standard features as sinking streams and large springs in the limestones and dolomites on the eastern side of the First Canyon anticline (see below). We lacked the logistic support needed to study the west side of the anticline in any detail but noted cave mouths, etc. when passing at a distance. This indicates that, in addition to the paleokarst, there will be one or more modern karst aquifers within and around the Prairie Creek ore deposits.

In my professional opinion, mining will create a variety of serious hazards to the surface and ground waters, the flora and fauna, around the mine and in the South Nahanni River and Park downstream of it. Chief amongst them will be formation of sulphuric acid (a strong acid) by oxidation of the sulphides in the presence of water. Consultants for Canadian Zinc have suggested that the local limestone and dolomite will effectively neutralise this acid, but they are not specialists in this matter and appear to be indulging in wishful thinking. All sulphide deposits within carbonate rocks generate acids under natural conditions (see e.g. Worthington and Ford, 1995). When radically impacted by mining, the rates of acid generation are increased. In the vadose or unsaturated zone (above the water table) and in the shallow phreatic or saturated zone (beneath it) groundwaters are O2 -rich and so readily oxidize the sulphides to H2SO4. The kinetics of H2SO4 transport in karstic groundwaters are now quite well understood (see e.g. Klimchouk et al. 2000, Chapter 4.1.4, 5.2.8). Its solvent capacity is reduced at Fourth Order (or higher) rates as saturation is approached. This means that the acid can travel long distances underground (and at the surface) before its corrosive capacity is exhausted. Development of the Prairie Creek mine must impact the regional waters very strongly, in my opinion. The locations and rates of impacts will be most difficult to predict because they will depend upon the vagaries of solutional void distribution and connectivity within, around and down gradient of the deposits being extracted (plus other variables), and they will change (usually for the worse) with passage of time. I am also concerned with the fate of water pumped from the mine (oxidizing rapidly), of mineral dust from the open workings, from mine ventilation shafts, on conveyor belts to the concentration plant, or released during the concentration processes, etc. These too will be sources of H2SO4 that may be transported rapidly off-site. The abundant mercury could pose a hazard at every step in ore extraction and concentration.



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Hhhmmmmmmmm....

It's all there in plain English.

IF you know what you are looking at. The area is completely monatomic. electric. Alive. dimensional.

Silver, BTW, is considered to be the doorway to the moon's domain, in it's monatomic form. the astral plain of 'purgatory', the dark creative realm where we all venture when dreaming those deepest dreams.

The geologist goes on to say that the likelyhood of incredibly large numbers of catalytic reactive aquifers and chambers is probably what the water is flowing through. This is the exact case of how monatomics are made by the alchemists. The correct chemicals, precious metals at the molecular distribution level, combined with sulfides, mercury and lead, etc..then on a sealed reactive chamber at levels right around the boiling point of water -and below. In the dark, away from the sun...for months.

THEN, out of that sealed 3 month long reaction, you get the philospoher's stone.

The entire valley and it's waters, etc, are definitely monatomic in nature. It is probably protected by the dimensional creatures or beings who desire to be left alone.

This is the most explicit case I've ever seen.

The place is a millions of years old natural easy-bake oven of the doorway to dimensions and the realms of the gods.

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We are talking about the dark 'rulers of the world' ("influencers", really, not rulers) making SURE no one messes with their foodstuffs. Possibly. Meaning, to me, that the description of what is going on in the valley is correct..but what the thoughts of the beings protecting that valley are, those thoughts are obviously opaque to me.

This is an important post IF you want to actually connect the dots together.

There are probably places there (below the surface) where you can get a truck and a backhoe and load up on the philospoher's stone. Understand, the individual only needs micro to milligrams, AT MOST. This material --- is not a toy.

[Patrikas]

[QUOTE=Maia Gabrial;240362]Sounds like the militaries have got each entrance covered....
Maia[/QUOTE
I think that there beginning to find out just what has" them" covered wherver they are on this earth

[DNA]

Posted by Carmody (here)
Another giant fact point. I hope this helps more people frame this subject. This is a cross post from this thread, into the below thread. Many thanks to the Original poster in this thread. (the one you are reading now) This was an important find:

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ion-of-Lithium

Possible Subterranean Culture Entrances


4.Canada

Another entrance is found in the Nahanni Valley but many of those that have dared to enter this area have been found
decapitated, thus giving the region its name ‘The Valley of the Headless Men’. The Nahanni Valley in Canada is the land of
the Ojibways, the Slave, Dogribs, Stoney, the Beavers and the Chipweyans. It covers 250 square miles in the southern end of the
Mackenzie Mountains of Canada and lies almost 550 miles due west of Fort Simpson on the Mackenzie River of northwest
Canada. Hot springs and sulfur geysers keep the valley warmer than the surrounding areas by about 30 degrees year-round. This
land of perpetual mist is viewed by the Indians as ’taboo’ and avoided.

(to add, in the days of yore, you did ~NOT~ mess with the Ojibway. They were chief among all shamen in ancient North America.)
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Wow,,,,excellent stuff Carmody. Your explanations and Alchemical corrolations are amazing. I personally don't know too much about alchemy,,,not real alchemy. The limits of my venturing were dabbling in the ideas of David Hudson and his white powder monoatomic gold theories. I love the premise, that the place may be a portal zone caused by geological features, and especially certain conductive metals.
Your explorations into the premises for mining and the conclusians of how it will negativelly affect the area are amazing.
I absolutely agree with you about nature spirits.
For what it's worth,,,,if one posseses a little vision ability into etheric levels, and ventures out into virgin upspoiled country, one will come across nature beings. I've seen nature beings, and they look remarkably like what the mythologies say they look like.
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Your talk of portal zones sounds remarkably like George Knapp's skinwalker ranch, and west virginia's Mothman area scribed by John Keel.The Indians shunning the Nahali Valley when the warmth and excess in food stuffs would make it very appealing in the Canadian winter is very telling in my opinion. The native americans tended to shun portal zones, and probably for good reason. Leave well enough alone.
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From what I read though,,,,,the folks that lost their heads,,,,tended to be miners.
And coming from an underground base perspective.
I'm sure the last thing you would want, if you had a base that acted as a possible cultural center or a city, is to have some meddlesome human miners who won't take a hint.
The fact that they were found headless seems to me a macabre warning to other would be miners.
And for what it is worth, I found it intriguing to no end,,,,that the exact same scenario(that played out in the Nahilli Valley) was played out in the Superstitions of Arizona.
Miners who would not take a hint. Were found dead and without a head.
I personally believe there is an advanced race that lives beneath both locations, a race of physical humanoids, thought I do not think they are human. At the present, I think they may be reptilian.
I'm not one of those who tries to paint any race in a bad or evil picture.
I wouldn't really blame them for lopping off a head every once in a while if folks can't take a hint.
From the reports of miners out in the superstitions, folks report a sense of forboding, and ussually leave on their own account.
Something tells me, that the folks who lop off heads, give a psychic warning before they take it to the next level.

[DNA]

Posted by Maia Gabrial (here)
Sounds like the militaries have got each entrance covered....
Maia

If you start making corrolations and such, you start to see trends and commonalities. The Government turns a lot of these places into state parks. This helps in a myriad of ways. It stops devolopers from happening onto these areas. It stops mining companies from tunneling into these areas.
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I have got to say, people talk about disclosure,,,but I don't see it happening any time soon, if for one reason and one reason alone.
Disclosure would not only enlighten people to the fact that we are not the smartest hippest thing in the Galaxy, it would enlighten people to the fact that we aren't the smartest hippest thing on our own planet.
I think that last part,,,,,,would go over worse for folks,,,than the whole alien thing would.

[Cjay]

The Jenolan caves are one of the most extensive cave systems in Australia. Jenolan is located approximately 110 km west of Sydney. The 175 km drive from Sydney to Jenolan takes approximately 3 hours as some of the journey is on very steep, narrow, winding roads through the Blue Mountains.

Jenolan Caves is in the Blue Mountains World Heritage Area, a vast nature reserve, abounding with native wildlife. Although known to European settlers since 1838, Jenolan Caves is still under exploration - its full extent not yet discovered. Although many of the caves are open for tours, many more can only be accessed by speleologists, scientists or cave divers.

The caves have long been known to local Aboriginal people. Since they were discovered by European settlers, the Jenolan story has been strange, full of colourful characters and quirky events.

http://www.jenolancaves.org.au/Home_Page.php

Each time I have visited the Jenolan caves, I was told by cave tour guides, on three separate visits many years apart, that early cave explorers reported finding an underground lake, large enough for a battle ship to turn in. That cave has since not been found again - or if it has, they are not telling us.

see also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jenolan_Caves

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Materials which have been prepared by Ted Matthews, caves guide at Jenolan

One of the lower and less andorned passageways

For information and more pictures:
http://members.iinet.net.au/~john.ma...ws-jenolan.htm

The author is conscious, however, that neither tongue, nor pen, nor pictorial art can convey an adequate idea of the magnificence and exquisite beauty of these caves. Words are too poor to express the feelings of admiration and awe which are experienced by those who wander through the marvellous subterranean galleries embellished with myriads of graceful and fantastic forms of purest white alternating with rich colour and delicate tints and shades.

Of all the caves in New South Wales those at Jenolan are the most beautiful, and well-travelled men admit that they are unrivalled in any other part of the world As they are so little known this book may be interesting, and serve to give some impression concerning geological transformations and the slow processes of Nature in the production of works at once grand, ornate, and unique.

The Jenolan caves: an excursion in Australian wonderland (1889)
http://www.archive.org/download/jeno...00cookiala.pdf

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The Burragorang Valley, a few kilometres from Jenolan Caves, is reported to be the location of a secret underground base. Could this be the location of the "missing" cave?

The Blue Mountains, west of Sydney, continues to be THE major UFO 'hotspot' in Australia, with stories that date back to the later part of the 19th century. UFO 'flaps' throughout the region are often accompanied by reports of ET abductions and 'time window' experiences from local residents.

It is 50 years since the big Katoomba UFO incident at Echo Point Lookout in 1957 [covered in full in the Gilroys' book "Blue Mountains Triangle"]. Since then there ave been major UFO 'flaps' throughout the Blue Mountains from 1959-1961, 1963-1964, 1966, 1969; 1970-1973, 1975-1976, 1978-1979, 1980, 1982, 1985, 1989, 1990-1992, 1995-1996, 1998-1999; 2000, and 2001-2007.

There have of course been UFO sightings during 'non flap' years, but these have been in the minority. And during the 'flap' periods the Burragorang Valley, south of Katoomba, has been the scene of great numbers of sightings and other associated incidents.

The Burragorang Valley is of course the location of a vast underground Australian/American top secret advanced space technology base. 'Time Window' technology is one of the major areas of research being conducted in the Burragorang complex, thus there has been a considerable amount of reports of 'time window' experiences by people in the Katoomba region.

http://www.uforq.asn.au/about/ufoencounter237.pdf

see also UFO Mysteries Of The Burragorang Valley by Rex Gilroy:
http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com/a...ufologist.html

[Cjay]

Countless cave systems exist under Australia's Nullarbor Plain, the world's largest limestone formation. "The Nullarbor" is a very remote area, covering approximately 200,000 square kilometres (77,000 sq. miles) of mostly uninhabited desert, where summer temperatures can exceed 50 degrees C (132 deg. F). From east to west, the Nullarbor spans roughly 1,150 kilometres (713 miles), straddling the border of South Australia and Western Australia.

The Nullabor is bounded to the south by the Southern Ocean. The Bunda Cliffs in South Australia and the Baxter Cliffs in Western Australia are the world's longest continuous cliffs - approximately 400 kilometres (248 miles) of sheer vertical cliffs as high as 120 metres (almost 400 feet).

In some areas, the ocean connects through many subterranean caves, resulting in blowholes up to several hundred metres from the coast. Some of the cave systems have entrances on the cliff faces, above the ocean. Other cave systems contain vast freshwater lakes. There are thought to be thousands of caves in the Nullarbor Plain, with several new caves being discovered every year. Most of the caves are protected by the government and cave divers require scientific permits.




The Weebubbie and Cocklebiddy caves are among the largest natural tunnels in the world, leading to huge subterranean freshwater lakes. Many of these underground lakes have been explored by cave divers, for as much as 10 kilometres (6 miles) and to depths of up to 110 metres (361 feet). Scientists admit they don't know how long or how deep most of these cave systems are.

Cave diving is extremely dangerous and requires a great deal of skill, training and planning, as well as specialised equipment. The risks include running out of air, getting stuck in narrow passages or taking a wrong turn and getting lost. Other hazards include being killed or trapped by rockfalls and getting "the bends" (Nitrogen bubbles in the blood) from ascending too quickly from great depths. Some of the "air pockets" contain high concentrations of carbon dioxide while others contain toxic gases or radiation.

There are simply so many caves and so few people with the necessary skills, so it is unlikely we will ever have a complete knowledge of how vast these cave systems are... or where they lead to.

Subterranean Lakes






Murra El Elevyn Cave






Weebubbie Cave

You might want to hold your breath watching these videos.
These are not Hollywood movies - they are the real thing.


Source: Watch on Vimeo






Source: Watch on Vimeo






Source: Watch on Vimeo




More videos, pictures and information on cave diving in the Nullarbor Caves and a growing list of about 80 caves in 14 regions throughout Australia:
http://www.cavediving.net.au/

[Cjay]

Cave Diving Regions of Australia





Kilsbys Sinkhole. Lower South-East region, South Australia





Kija Blue Sinkhole. A stunning but very remote sinkhole in the Kimberley region in the far north of Western Australia. Explored to a depth of 115 metres (377 feet).

[Carmody]

Posted by DNA (here)
Your talk of portal zones sounds remarkably like George Knapp's skinwalker ranch, and west Virginia's Mothman area scribed by John Keel.The Indians shunning the Nahali Valley when the warmth and excess in food stuffs would make it very appealing in the Canadian winter is very telling in my opinion. The native Americans tended to shun portal zones, and probably for good reason. Leave well enough alone.
.
From what I read though,,,,,the folks that lost their heads,,,,tended to be miners.
And coming from an underground base perspective.
I'm sure the last thing you would want, if you had a base that acted as a possible cultural center or a city, is to have some meddlesome human miners who won't take a hint.
The fact that they were found headless seems to me a macabre warning to other would be miners.
And for what it is worth, I found it intriguing to no end,,,,that the exact same scenario(that played out in the Nahilli Valley) was played out in the Superstitions of Arizona.
Miners who would not take a hint. Were found dead and without a head.
I personally believe there is an advanced race that lives beneath both locations, a race of physical humanoids, thought I do not think they are human. At the present, I think they may be reptilian.
I'm not one of those who tries to paint any race in a bad or evil picture.
I wouldn't really blame them for lopping off a head every once in a while if folks can't take a hint.
From the reports of miners out in the superstitions, folks report a sense of foreboding, and usually leave on their own account.
Something tells me, that the folks who lop off heads, give a psychic warning before they take it to the next level.

A general note for everyone:

Why Utah?

Why build a religion around the Great salt lake? One where the old traditions of multiple wives, etc? Why the horror stories coming out of that US state?

Why Israel?

Why the Dead sea?

Why the Great Salt Lake?

Monatomics and the energy patterns that create them..... Alchemy, pure and simple.

The old legends.... really are true.

I'll show you why you should have Google earth and the Vortex maps ley line and energy grid line overlay for Google earth........ and be looking into it. You WILL find that places that freaked you out or you felt light headed or that gravity was wrong, and the world wobbled, you'll find that it was probably a ley line you were on or crossing. Or the given abode or building was on it.

It is very important that one validate these things for themselves.

Please understand that the energy is everywhere and it is deep inside you. The power/energies is in you, it is part of you, you are part of it. You are an avatar with a spirit/connection, and the spirit is connected to those energies. Those dimensional energies. The body and it's fears lock you out of this conscious recognition.

The most likely answer, from the evidence is that: It has been kept outside of your knowledge by that which wishes to maintain dominion over you.

Note it is a geometric pentagram, from 5 lines crossing in the middle of the lake.

Here's the Great Salt Lake:

[Carmody]

The Finger Lakes area, around Syracuse and in the State of New York, USA. Look at the geological stress fracture lines. They are at their most extreme and strongest in this area only. This is where a member of the Forum, Wynderer is from. She says that the dark entities in this area are extreme, in one's dreams and in the astral realms. This white line (vertical), goes through Washington DC, the US capital (just outside of it.)

The one coming in from the lower left..goes right through The Great Salt lake.

Then, check out Swaziland.

For some reason, we create a country in the middle of a continent, isolated, and it is so dang small it is only 70 miles across.

It just happens to contain a major grid anchor point. Fancy that.

I could go on... and on... and on, here.

[Cjay]

Carmody, what do you know about a simlar anchor point in central Australia?

I have read in at least three different places that the joint U.S./Australian secret "communications" base at Pine Gap sits above a huge D.U.M.B. as much as 7.5 cubic miles in size. One place I read about that was in Project Camelot possibly in relation to Jake Simpson. (If someone can remember or find the specific reference, please let me know and I will post the link here). I think Jordan Maxwell also discussed Pine Gap.

One thing I remember is that Pine Gap was said to be home to large numbers of ETs, including reptilians and that many bad things happen there.

Another source that discusses underwater and underground bases states:

According to another NSA contact who worked at the Pine gap DUMB in Australia, the Mag Lev tubes are known as 'Terradrive' and only travel in one direction around the world. One must be a very high ranking Mason (33rd degree of Zion or higher), corporate-intelligence agent or an ET to gain access to Terradrive

link: http://2012poleshift.wetpaint.com/pa...litary+Base%29

I have examined Pine Gap on Google Earth/Google Maps and something just doesn't look and feel right about the place. Zoom in and out, examine the area around the base, not just the visible parts of the base.
Here is the link: http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&s...50597&t=h&z=15

or just click the photo to enlarge



Australia has many salt lakes, including one of the world's largest, Lake Eyre (pronounced "air")

The Lake Eyre Basin is a very special part of Australia. It covers one sixth of the continent...

The Basin is made up of large parts of South Australia, Northern Territory and Queensland, along with a small slice of western New South Wales. The major cross-border water flows are from Queensland into South Australia, however substantial flows do occur out of the Northern Territory into both Queensland and South Australia.



link: http://www.lakeeyrebasin.org.au/

see also: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lake_Eyre

[Carmody]

Stan Deyo, and the TR3B anti gravity craft, and the 'jumproom to mars' are all under the header of the Pine Gap issue,and that is near this giant salt lake or salt basin.

There is no doubt of any kind, to me...that massive underground caverns and areas exist in the area.

.https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ight=stan+deyo

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...eyo#post154109


By far, the most important video for those who are technically capable --to see... this is it.

Anti-gravity and the TR3B. Please understand that if anti-gravity works then time, space, matter, dimensions, doorways the whole damn thing breaks open and slithers out. And in this video, anit-gravity...it indeed does exactly that. It all spills out onto the floor (watch this one first):

https://youtube.com/watch?v=nP4zQ...layer_embedded

As for Pine gap, it is not on a grid point, and neither is the salt lake. Best that can be said, is that they are 'near' such lines.

However, the 'question of Lithium' thread hits the nail on the head of this, big time. In those places are large amounts of sightings of dimensional creatures, Nazis,UFO's men in black, elitists, Illuminati, the whole works. That thread talks specifically about the catalytic basins. Just like this salt lake basin in Australia.

Right next to Pine Gap. Whoops! How did that happen?

The story is that The Rothschilds created Isreal to create strife in the middle east. A good cover story, to me. Only one half of the story, to me.

I say they did it to gain access, direct controlled access to the origins of Solomon's temple, which was for creating the Philosopher's stone. The origin points of the Judaic religious structure. The pope wants to get in there and recreate Solomon's temple, exactly as it was. Complete with the gigantic horse stables. (10,000 horses, underground, IIRC)

Be it known that the acids from the energetic (And acidic- or catalytic ) mammalian Horse urine are PERFECT for for creating the philosopher's stone and the pope wants to make the stables, and the horses present in them. Now..why would the church, the Vatican..want that? What does David Icke say about the Vatican and it's basements? the 'waters of life' (urine) method of making the philosopher's stone is considered to be the most potent method of doing so. The correct energies and type of catalytic substances are retained in the urine. Please note that elitists and Freemasons tend to be surrounding quite an abnormally high number of water AND waste treatment/handling plants and systems..throughout the western world. eg...Take a look at the name and lineage of the company who bought the rights and control of the corexit that was used in the Gulf. this particular last correlation is weak... but there seems to be something to it. It bears some investigation.

Where did Solomon get his water for that huge horse stable? Care to take a guess at the complex salt/mineral levels in the water that those horses were drinking?

Monatomic salts from the dead sea are apparently the highest in Monatomic gold content, at 35% monatomic gold, is the estimate. Monatomic gold, the supposed 'King' Of the monatomics that are derived from these modified 'salts', these oxidized forms of the platinum metals group.

Catalytic reactive chemical basins... in/near vortex points, thus creating monatomics. The temperatures, the chemical mixes, the lighting, all of it is perfect in all of those spots. Be it known that alchemy really finally works right when the dew of the full moon dawn is gathered to make 'the stone'.

This is due to the energetic spin the angular components of the lensing of gravity, dimensions and light gives to the water that is condensing from vapor into 'water' at those exact moments.

This is very 'Tesla like' with regard to Tesla's energetics. This lensing and the condensation gives the formed water the exact correct complex spin characteristics for making the philosopher's stone. As well, specific moon phases and planetary positions impart their own spin or vortex patterning energies to the mix and those will change and alter the stone creation considerations.

Now, imagine the water in those places and conditions.

Add in the vortex energies. Specifically in the middle of the great salt lake. Imagine the energy in that water.

It would be interesting to find out WHO is venturing out into the center of that lake on a regular basis. In that you may find the direct connection, a connection which most of humanity (a humanity pushed far too hard in all the wrong ways) wants to have a VERY serious talk with.


Note the recent thread on the waterspout on the Australian coast and how I illustrated that it formed right at the meeting point of two vortex lines.


I could show you pictures of my home town, and I showed them to Bill. One facing north, one facing south, taken from the same spot.

My Home Town is on a vortex line and the weather is ALWAYS different on one side of the vortex line vs the other. I noted this anomaly being present my entire childhood. Every time the weather was stable with low amounts of wind, the pattern would form. I had no idea the vortex lines even existed, I just noted the anomaly being in existence for the first 20 years of my life and there to this day, still.

One more thing.

Angel of the Dawn. Lucifer.


When does the soul enter the body?

Dawn.


The ascendant, in astrology. It is the descriptor for 'the rose colored glasses' that one wears and sees reality through.

It is calculated as the degree or point at which the soul enters the body, but it is the point of the dawn light, where it is, the exact moment when you were born. One of the primary masks you wear. Ego function?

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I hope that helps explain why these vortex points and lines, ley lines, energy grid lines... how they are important, as the whole dang world seems to be revolving around them, in some very critical ways... that are hidden from the average human.

They seem to be energetic dimensional weak points or doorways (entry/exit) to dimensional superhighways and/or nexus/travel points.

As for subterranean entrances, again, see the 'question of lithium' thread for more expansion on this thread you are now reading.

Alchemy and Astrology, mankind's OLDEST endeavors.....and then the 'druidic' component of the the warring groups of elitists who are fighting over control of the world.

In the image below, note that a major grid anchor point (UVG 44) just happens to be connected to this salt lake basin in Australia.

[DNA]

Wow Carmody,,,,,,when you go on a tangent like that,,,I'm amazed when i come up for air and think I kinda know what your talking about.
Kinda,
Amazing stuff. Have you ever tried the monoatomic gold stuff yourself? As per the David Hudson stuff he was suggesting it be ingested or something.
I personally don't know if your alluding to the philosphers stone as an actual stone,,but,,,,it may have to do with certain elements in combination,,,,,that when injested create a field around the body that protects it from leaking energy or having energy syphoned out of the aura.
I sometimes think that is what the Annunaki were doing here in the first place.

[Carmody]

The place is a millions of years old natural easy-bake oven of the doorway to dimensions and the realms of the gods.

One must understand that the Nazi's created a photochemical based method of extracting or purifying nuclear material from a fluid based mix, in WWII, for making high quality fissile materials. This, according to Joseph Farrell's EXHAUSTIVE research on the subject.

Now, if the 'earth' has massive amounts of molecularly diluted catalytic materials, mixed with minerals, under the correct temperature and light conditions..for MILLIONS of years (Millions of tons of material in one spot)..what would make one think that the earth could not produce it's OWN monatomic 'white powder of gold' as the alchemists do. That is to say, where did the alchemists learn their methods?

They learned it from the earth. Or 'somebody' told/showed them.

In a molecular level dilution, you have not newtonian mass aggregate considerations but QUANTUM interactions in that mix as the primary mode of operation. So all the weird quantum effects are present in a very real and actual way..but as a quantum mass aggregate. We have Newtonian systems exhibiting quantum field considerations.

I mention this as this is the exact point I'm hammering home in the 'question of lithium' thread and it is specifically related to the appearance of what you might call 'subterranean culture entrances' as this thread is titled.

This thread, for example, could be seen as an expansion of that thread.

[DNA]

Posted by Carmody (here)
One must understand that the Nazi's created a photochemical based method of extracting or purifying nuclear material from a fluid based mix, in WWII, for making high quality fissile materials. This, according to Joseph Farrell's EXHAUSTIVE research on the subject.

Now, if the 'earth' has massive amounts of molecularly diluted catalytic materials, mixed with minerals, under the correct temperature and light conditions..for MILLIONS of years (Millions of tons of material in one spot)..what would make one think that the earth could not produce it's OWN monatomic 'white powder of gold' as the alchemists do. That is to say, where did the alchemists learn their methods?

They learned it from the earth. Or 'somebody' told/showed them.

In a molecular level dilution, you have not newtonian mass aggregate considerations but QUANTUM interactions in that mix as the primary mode of operation. So all the weird quantum effects are present in a very real and actual way..but as a quantum mass aggregate. We have Newtonian systems exhibiting quantum field considerations.

I mention this as this is the exact point I'm hammering home in the 'question of lithium' thread and it is specifically related to the appearance of what you might call 'subterranean culture entrances' as this thread is titled.

This thread, for example, could be seen as an expansion of that thread.

Is this all in theory and conjecture?
How does it relate to an actual person?
Do you have intimate knowledge and or experiences with this subject?

I would like to understand what your talking about, but I need a human element.
Do you have personal first hand knowledge?
Have you experimented with this stuff?
How do you as a human being factor into this equation?
Has your body/person/spirit been actually in the influence of this or these substances?

[Cjay]

Hi Carmody,

I have not previously studied ley lines in much detail and much of what I am about to say is just based on following hunches to see where they go. I hope you can make sense of my sleepy ramblings. Sorry if my ley line terminology is incorrect.

When I looked at the map you posted of the ley lines crossing "near" the salt lakes basin, I noticed two other crossing points on the map, which roughly correspond to locations I discussed in two of my recent posts. I wondered if this is synchronicity.

Firstly, let me draw your attention back to the crossing point labelled UVG 44. I found a reference to this location in a google search that gave precise co-ordinates for that point, which I pasted into Google Maps. You may be interested to see the curious rectangular feature I found about 1 kilometre north-east of UVG 44, in a very remote location (see map below)

Link: http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&s...34246&t=h&z=15

click photo to enlarge:


Three other places "near" and west of UVG 44 immediately jumped into my mind. Wilpena Pound, in the Flinders Ranges National Park; Woomera Test Range, where the military test rockets and other weapons; and the town of Roxby Downs which is near the Olympic Dam uranium mine.

There is another place nearby that was a top secret military base - Nurrungar - that I read had been abandoned. When I first started researching that area, I had a suspicion that it may have been used as an entrance to tunnels so the sneaky alphabet agencies could "acquire" urianium from beneath Olympic Dam, right under the noses of the nuclear watchdogs, possibly to use as a power source for Pine Gap and other DUMBs and the intercontinental mag-lev trains that are rumoured to connect the DUMBS. This idea of the secret underground uranium mining was just a feeling with no verifiable information to back it up.

In the Flinders Ranges, there is a cave called Narrina Lake Cave. I have not yet found any detailed information about Narrina Lake Cave but I did find a curious reference from 2002 that stated "SA Cave Diving convenor attempted to re-establish cave diving access to Narrina Lake Cave following a long period of this being disallowed by the owner."

Also near UVG 44 but further west in the area of the salt lakes, is Acraman crater - an ancient impact crater. The impact event is estimated to have occurred about 580 million years ago.

The crater is deeply eroded and its original size must be inferred by indirect means. Some authors estimate an original diameter of up to 85–90 km, while other suggest a smaller size, perhaps only 35–40 km.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acraman_crater

Even on the smaller estimate, it was not a trivial impact!

Secondly, I noticed on your map, there are two other points where many lines cross. The point on the left (west) side of the map is on the Nullarbor Plain, which I discussed in a previous post in this thread, here:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post241191
I am betting there is a very significant cave near that crossing point. I will need to study a higher resolution map of the ley lines and crossing points to verify this theory.

Just to the north-east of the Nullarbor ley line crossing point is Marilinga, the site of British nuclear tests in the 1950's.

Thirdly, the point where the lines cross on the right (east) side of the map you posted is near Siding Spings Observatory in the Warrumbungles National Park, which I discussed in another post in a different thread, here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post241824

I would like to see where all of the other ley line crossing points are in Australia so I can search for other possible connections.

Fourthly, if the spacing of crossing points is consistent, the next crossing point further to the west of the photo you posted might be near Kalgoorlie, in Western Australia - the site of the Super Pit gold mine which produces about 850,000 ounces of gold per year.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Pit_gold_mine

Finally, I will copy/paste an email I wrote about 8 months ago because it ties back in to our earlier discussion about Pine Gap. I am getting too tired now to disect it further so I will leave it to someone with fresh eyes. I look forward to reading any comments.

Re. Exmouth area, Northwest Cape, Western Australia

Here is a highly sanitized description: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naval_C...Harold_E._Holt
This description refers only to the hexagonal shape in the first (northernmost) map below.

You can read a lot more about Northwest Cape, Pine Gap and several other secret bases in this thread that started in 2003 and continues to 2010: http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread18317/pg1 (but you will probably want to look at the maps/satellite images below first)
A quote from the thread: “there is more to pine gap i have heard that it is a massive underground base and they get supply food for 50000 ppl there every week imported from us” [USA?]

Northwest Cape and Pine Gap are two of the most controversial top secret bases in Australia (joint USA and Australian military and DSD (Defence Signals Directorate), NSA, CIA, ASIS, ASIO (all spy agencies).

I also read that Area 51 (Groom Lake, near Roswell, New Mexico), is being or has been relocated to Pine Gap in Australia and that Pine Gap has one of the largest underground bases in the world – about 7.5 cubic miles of tunnels – inhabited by greys and reptilians, and that it is a VERY evil place (because of what they are doing there). I think somewhere else in this thread was a mention of another large underground base a few miles below Uluru (Ayers Rock), which is about 200 miles south-west from Pine Gap... and another under Mount Zeil, about 60 miles west from Pine Gap. More on Pine Gap in another email, another time.



All maps/satellite images below in Northwest Cape area. Listed from north to south.
You really need to zoom in and out and scroll around in each location to appreciate the huge scale of these things.
Near the northern tip of Northwest Cape (hexagonal antenna array, about 1.5 miles across):
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&s...30985&t=h&z=15

About 7 miles further south:
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&s...15492&t=h&z=16


Learmonth Air Force base (about 22 miles further south):
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&s...06197&t=h&z=14

About 8 miles further south (circle roughly one mile in diameter):
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&s...30985&t=h&z=15

Also, starting about 4 to 5 miles south-east from the circle, and continuing for at least 40 miles further south, there are dozens of faint parallel lines in the desert (approx. from north-west to south-east). Some of these lines run at least 20 miles across the empty desert. Some of the lines seem to go from nowhere, to nowhere. Other lines have structures on them. The lines continue straight even where the terrain has ridges and valleys.
Here is a sample of those lines:
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?f=q&s...15492&t=h&z=16

[LuzOne]

I used to live near Mt Shasta and went there to camp about 3 times a year. There is a lot of lore about being who live within the mountain, also about space craft landing on top of the mountain.
Since, Mt Shasta is a glacier, the mountain does indeed make it's own weather - so one minute, the sky around it is clear and the next there is an interesting cloud formation. I have seen many
clouds that were spaceship like. Also, it was thought that Ascended Master would arrive at the top of the mountain, as well. And many people claimed to have encounters with Ascended Masters
while visiting Mt. Shasta.
There are many vortex's around the mountain and people often look for them to experience whatever might happen. It is said that one might not return after entering one of the vortex areas. One
might also go on a long trip somewhere with an ascended being. There is an area on the mountain that is a kind of gate. Hikers go by it all the time without seeing it. The gate does open to the
inner chambers of the Mountain, but only if the person approaching has a high enough frequency.
Mt. Shasta is a sacred mountain and most people who has been there even a few times have very interesting stories to tell. The Mountain will call people and teach people much like an interactive
video game. LOL.

[noprophet]

I would like to throw Whitehorse Mountain in western Washington USA out there. It's near a small town I grew up in called Darrington. There has always been lots of UFO/USAF activity up there.

They used to fly the f14s low breaking the sound barrier over the town and got a lot of complaints for it. They always said they were test flying through the area. There have been a few mass sightings as well as a lot of individual sightings of UFOs in this area, myself included.