Possible Subterranean Culture Entrances

[ks4ever]

High Cjay,
I thought you should know that you are looking in the wrong area. Try the Tanami Desert N.T., but I doubt if you will see anything as all the facilities are underground. The main facility is on seven levels and was built immediately following Pine Gap, but there were other facilities already there at the antigravity research centre, including at least five missile silos. None of this can be seen on Google as I know approximately where it is and have looked.

There is also another base near Mt Cobbler in Victoria but it is extra-terrestial. Was very active in the 1970-80's but I have not been up in that country for some time to know if it is still going on.

[Cjay]

Posted by ks4ever (here)
High Cjay,
I thought you should know that you are looking in the wrong area. Try the Tanami Desert N.T., but I doubt if you will see anything as all the facilities are underground. The main facility is on seven levels and was built immediately following Pine Gap, but there were other facilities already there at the antigravity research centre, including at least five missile silos. None of this can be seen on Google as I know approximately where it is and have looked.

There is also another base near Mt Cobbler in Victoria but it is extra-terrestial. Was very active in the 1970-80's but I have not been up in that country for some time to know if it is still going on.

Hi ks4ever, l was looking in the wrong place for what? Please explain what you meant.

Yes I know about the Tanami Desert and you're right about not being able to see entrances. I know exactly where Pine Gap is. My post was not focused on Pine Gap, although I did mention it. For starters, any entrances not inside buildings would be very well concealed. Secondly, the resolution of Google Earth/Maps is not high enough to be able to see much detail... but what can be seen does raise many questions.

Thanks for the info about Mount Cobbler. I had not previously heard of it. I will check that out too.

I was looking primarily at the photo below provided by Carmody in this post:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post243058
and simply joining a few dots from numerous other ideas and previous research.

[Cjay]

Interesting video that joins a few more dots.

The Geomancy of Canberra, Australia and the Exmouth haarp array. Pine Gap, Australia ley lines

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=D96yFjFe5-w

I have tried to contact the creator of this video to get his input in our discussion.

[Cjay]

An Aboriginal perspective:

WHAT IS A SONGLINE? Where Do Songlines Come From?

The Aboriginal people of Australia, like most indigenous people around the world, hold the Earth to be a sacred, living thing. Our spiritual source brought to life all around us. For the ‘original people’ of Australia, everything in the material world begins in the Dreamtime (somewhere between Spirit and Form) and is kept alive by their daily dreaming, songs and storytelling. These songs and stories are planted like seeds as they walk the same path across the earth, generation after generation. This is how the ley lines known in Australia as songlines were formed.

Striving to live in balance with the Earth and to honor the spirits of their ancestors has defined their lives. Aboriginal communities living in the traditional way spent their lives traveling very specific paths across the vast, challenging landscape. As members of the family struggled to survive, gave birth and died along these pathways, very deep and personal connections were formed between the people and the land.


Australian Aboriginal art rock painting of Mimi spirits in the Anbangbang gallery at Nourlangie in Kakadu National Park. Photo by Dustin M. Ramsey ©2002

As they moved across the sprawling territory that was their home, they studied the nature around them with great reverence, sharing their songs, dreams and stories with one another as they walked the line. One generation after another passed in this way, and the stretch of land they walked grew to know them well, holding a powerful resonance with them. In this way, ley lines were formed in the earth, marking the path of each tribal community with its spiritual essence, stories and songs. Like seeds planted and nurtured for generations, these songs and stories, and the laughter and wisdom of their ancestors, lived on in the songline. When they needed guidance, they became quiet and listened for answers they knew would come back to them in a song from the depths of the earth.

Ley lines are paths on the Earth connecting two or more points of geographic significance - often monuments or monoliths. Where ley lines are discovered, they are generally understood to be a product of commonly traveled paths by ancient cultures. Individuals who can sense such things say that these lines are often highly charged with certain kinds of mystical energies and even healing properties. Songlines are ley lines specific to the indigenous people of Australia.

source: http://thesongline.com/blog/arts-cul...is-a-songline/

Songlines in Aboriginal Culture

Indigenous people believe that the blood of the gods, the subtle magnetic, celestial flow, circulates in the veins of the earth. This concept underlies the extensive occult science known as geomancy, the study of ley lines. A number of anthropologists and scientists have found that the Aborigines possess an acute sensitivity to magnetic and vital force flows emanating from the earth, which they refer to as songlines. Perhaps the oldest geomancy tradition, songlines are fundamental to Aboriginal initiatic knowledge and religion. Songlines are so named because they are maps written in songs, depicting mythic events at successive sites along a walking trail that winds through a region. Each Aboriginal tribe inherited a network of songlines, and all travel in the lands of neighboring tribes was done along these lines.

Early anthropologists were amazed by Aborigines who had walked through immense desert expanses, unerringly finding their way to tiny water holes or distant mission settlements. One anthropologist has remarked that "no one has ever met a lost Aborigine". Aborigines young and old seem to move through the countryside instinctively, in a manner comparable to what we now understand about bird and animal migration.

Tribal elders claim that not only Australia but the entire earth, at one time, was linked through the songlines.

read more: source: http://www.artistwd.com/joyzine/aust.../songlines.php

Songlines, also called Dreaming tracks by Indigenous Australians within the animist indigenous belief system, are paths across the land (or, sometimes the sky[1]) which mark the route followed by localised 'creator-beings' during the Dreaming. The paths of the songlines are recorded in traditional songs, stories, dance, and painting.

A knowledgeable person is able to navigate across the land by repeating the words of the song, which describe the location of landmarks, waterholes, and other natural phenomena. In some cases, the paths of the creator-beings are said to be evident from their marks, or petrosomatoglyphs, on the land, such as large depressions in the land which are said to be their footprints.

By singing the songs in the appropriate sequence, Indigenous people could navigate vast distances, often travelling through the deserts of Australia's interior. The continent of Australia contains an extensive system of songlines, some of which are of a few kilometres, whilst others traverse hundreds of kilometres through lands of many different Indigenous peoples — peoples who may speak markedly different languages and have different cultural traditions.

read more: source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songlines

[Carmody]

I was off doing other stuff for a day or two. i will respond soon. Just leaving a marker for the moment.

[DNA]

#17 Mount Shasta, California

When looking over the history of Mt. Shasta I just don’t know what to say.
There is as much bull crap as there is mystery.
There is also some mysterious bull crap. J
If one is going to get to the bottom of some of this, it will take more than one person.

I can start off by asking some questions.
But, there is just no way I’m going to be able to research it all.

1. Has anyone read “The Return of the Magi” by Maurice Magre, pub. 1931? It consists of six historical accounts of legends of mystic ‘magi’, one of which is “Saint Germain”. It seems that this book and some theosophists of the time were expecting an actual physical appearance by this Saint Germain. Strangely enough, there are reported APPEARANCES of Saint Germain on Mt. Shasta in the 1930s.

Is this just a case of folks attributing a label on to something that is in their collective unconsciousness?
Did a figure appear in the 1930s on the slopes of Mt. Shasta and the name Saint Germain was stamped on the manifestation to make sense of it? Or was it Saint Germain? Or was it bullcrap? Or was it mysterious bullcrap? LOL J

2. It seems an author by the name of Mary Lee wrote a few books about Mt.Shasta while living there “The Brazen Door”, “The courageous Khan” and “Adventuring with trees” published before 1937. These books are not easy to get a hold of but here is a quote “No longer living in material bodies, it becomes obvious that the masters have no need of material things, for example, those articles which are exchangeable for gold nuggets in the shops of the city of mount Shasta and McCloud, as has been erroneously reported to have occurred. Those reporting such tales were either themselves misinformed, deluded, tricked by their own fancies, exploited by brother man, or were themselves not innocent in the exploitation of the credulous”.

So, it seems we have another example of referring to the SHASTONIANS, (that was mine J) as being ascended masters of some kind.

3.Mah-Atman-Amsumata(pseudonym) or Norman R Westfall wrote “Lord Maitreya or The New Golden Age”, 1942.
Mr. Westfall considered himself to be in contact with Saint Germain and other ascended masters on the slopes of Mt. Shasta. He retells the “higher laws of life” as told to him by the SHASTONIANS (I’m the manJ), what these laws are I have not the foggiest idea, I would love to know.
One of the stories penned by Westfall is called “King of the Lemurians” and I presume this is about the Lemurians as described by Madame Blavatasky.
Mt. Shasta is mentioned throughout this book, as for example: "Mt. Shasta, 'The Mountain of God' in America, is indeed the greatest focus of Light in the Western World at this time and will remain until the Great Work planned by the Great White Lodge is completed here for the in-coming and establishing of the New Golden Age". Again with the ascended master thing.

4.Godfre King Ray pseudonym of Guy Warren Ballard, penned “The Saint Germain Series”, pub, 1934. Considered to be the single most important book about the legend of Saint Germain’s appearance at Mount Shasta. Ballard was the founder of the “I AM” movement.

The author relates that in 1930 he came to Mount Shasta on business, and that he had already heard the rumor that there was a "Brotherhood of Mount Shasta, who formed a branch of the Great White Lodge" (p. 1). Hiking one day somewhere near the town of McCloud, Ballard stopped at a mountain spring and there met a young man later to be revealed as Saint Germain. The young man gave Ballard a cup of creamy liquid that came "directly from the Universal Supply, pure and vivifying as life itself" (p. 3). Ballard's life was forever transformed, and a religion was begun. The rest of the book contains an assortment of spiritual legends and teachings from the Ascended Masters. "The Ascended Masters are really Great Batteries of tremendous power and energy, and whatever touches their Radiance becomes highly charged with their 'Light Essence'....All their help and Radiation is forever a free gift of Love" (pp. 140-141).

The book is written as if it were fact: "To those who read this work, I wish to say, that these experiences are as real and true as mankind's existence on this earth today, and that they all occurred during August, September and October of 1930 upon Mount Shasta, California, U.S.A." (p. xiii). This book is the first in "The Saint Germain Series" of similar books by GodfrŽ Ray King and others. The editor of the series notes that "At the request of the Ascended Master, Saint Germain, and Victory, the Tall Master from Venus, the material in this book is written in a plain, direct manner with no attempt to conform to artificial literary standards, or outer world authority. They said: 'This series of books must go forth in a simple modern style which the layman can easily understand'" (p. iv).

5. Davis, M. Evalyn “Revelations of the Life Beautifull”, 1908. Photograph of Mount Shasta, Calif. with caption: “A beautiful spot, favorable to the children of God”.

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I've placed a line to seperate the next entry, which, after reading about, seems to be head and shoulders above the rest of the information I've mentioned.


6. Frederick Spencer Oliver, “A Dweller on Two Planets by Phylos the Thibetan” finished in 1886.
Well here it is. This has got to be the granddaddy of the Mt. Shasta movement, the perverbial snow ball that grew into an avalanche.
The book concerns itself with Atlantian culture. Stating that Atlantis reached a high level of technological achievement.
Daily life in Atlantis is recounted with such mentions as antigravity air ships, submarine craft, television, wireless telephony, arial water generators, air conditioners, high speed rail and atomic telescopes.
Phylos mentions his last reincarnation in 19th century north America as a gold miner occult student of the “Theo-Christic Adepts”.
Phylos travels to Venus/Hisperia in a subtle body while his physical form remained at the temple inside of Mt Shasta.

[Lettherebelight]

This is a cracker of a thread. Just goes to show there's so much that we don't know about; not included in the History books.

I understand from Vedic sources that there is a tunnel that goes from Sri Lanka to South America.

[Positive Vibe Merchant]

Thanks to KS, Carmody and Cjay for all the Australian info. Actually suprised that Pine Gap was not listed on the initial list.

More info on Cobblers would be great!

PVM

[Nasu]

Thought this was interesting and slightly connected…N

http://www.burlingtonnews.net/bluepeople.html

[Cartomancer]

Posted by Cjay (here)
An Aboriginal perspective:

WHAT IS A SONGLINE? Where Do Songlines Come From?

The Aboriginal people of Australia, like most indigenous people around the world, hold the Earth to be a sacred, living thing. Our spiritual source brought to life all around us. For the ‘original people’ of Australia, everything in the material world begins in the Dreamtime (somewhere between Spirit and Form) and is kept alive by their daily dreaming, songs and storytelling. These songs and stories are planted like seeds as they walk the same path across the earth, generation after generation. This is how the ley lines known in Australia as songlines were formed.

Striving to live in balance with the Earth and to honor the spirits of their ancestors has defined their lives. Aboriginal communities living in the traditional way spent their lives traveling very specific paths across the vast, challenging landscape. As members of the family struggled to survive, gave birth and died along these pathways, very deep and personal connections were formed between the people and the land.


Australian Aboriginal art rock painting of Mimi spirits in the Anbangbang gallery at Nourlangie in Kakadu National Park. Photo by Dustin M. Ramsey ©2002

As they moved across the sprawling territory that was their home, they studied the nature around them with great reverence, sharing their songs, dreams and stories with one another as they walked the line. One generation after another passed in this way, and the stretch of land they walked grew to know them well, holding a powerful resonance with them. In this way, ley lines were formed in the earth, marking the path of each tribal community with its spiritual essence, stories and songs. Like seeds planted and nurtured for generations, these songs and stories, and the laughter and wisdom of their ancestors, lived on in the songline. When they needed guidance, they became quiet and listened for answers they knew would come back to them in a song from the depths of the earth.

Ley lines are paths on the Earth connecting two or more points of geographic significance - often monuments or monoliths. Where ley lines are discovered, they are generally understood to be a product of commonly traveled paths by ancient cultures. Individuals who can sense such things say that these lines are often highly charged with certain kinds of mystical energies and even healing properties. Songlines are ley lines specific to the indigenous people of Australia.

source: http://thesongline.com/blog/arts-cul...is-a-songline/

Songlines in Aboriginal Culture

Indigenous people believe that the blood of the gods, the subtle magnetic, celestial flow, circulates in the veins of the earth. This concept underlies the extensive occult science known as geomancy, the study of ley lines. A number of anthropologists and scientists have found that the Aborigines possess an acute sensitivity to magnetic and vital force flows emanating from the earth, which they refer to as songlines. Perhaps the oldest geomancy tradition, songlines are fundamental to Aboriginal initiatic knowledge and religion. Songlines are so named because they are maps written in songs, depicting mythic events at successive sites along a walking trail that winds through a region. Each Aboriginal tribe inherited a network of songlines, and all travel in the lands of neighboring tribes was done along these lines.

Early anthropologists were amazed by Aborigines who had walked through immense desert expanses, unerringly finding their way to tiny water holes or distant mission settlements. One anthropologist has remarked that "no one has ever met a lost Aborigine". Aborigines young and old seem to move through the countryside instinctively, in a manner comparable to what we now understand about bird and animal migration.

Tribal elders claim that not only Australia but the entire earth, at one time, was linked through the songlines.

read more: source: http://www.artistwd.com/joyzine/aust.../songlines.php

Songlines, also called Dreaming tracks by Indigenous Australians within the animist indigenous belief system, are paths across the land (or, sometimes the sky[1]) which mark the route followed by localised 'creator-beings' during the Dreaming. The paths of the songlines are recorded in traditional songs, stories, dance, and painting.

A knowledgeable person is able to navigate across the land by repeating the words of the song, which describe the location of landmarks, waterholes, and other natural phenomena. In some cases, the paths of the creator-beings are said to be evident from their marks, or petrosomatoglyphs, on the land, such as large depressions in the land which are said to be their footprints.

By singing the songs in the appropriate sequence, Indigenous people could navigate vast distances, often travelling through the deserts of Australia's interior. The continent of Australia contains an extensive system of songlines, some of which are of a few kilometres, whilst others traverse hundreds of kilometres through lands of many different Indigenous peoples — peoples who may speak markedly different languages and have different cultural traditions.

read more: source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Songlines

Here you are. I'm sorry I didn't get back sooner. I was just reading the post below about Mt. Shasta. I have worked extensively through out the Mt. Shasta region as an archaeologist. I am currently working on a short film about an interesting site I found to the east of the mountain. I discovered an equinox event marker using the peak of the mountain to mark the event!

In this region of the US Native Americans had a tradition of creating what are known as "stacked stone" features similar to rock cairns. Many times these features resemble small columns because they were made out of local lava pieces that were tabular or squared of and easy to stack like bricks. No one is really sure of the function of these markers.

The alignment I discovered was comprised of five small stacks that were about 50cm tall from ground surface aligned almost perfectly east to west. When I first came across this alignment I was puzzled. I had seen many random patterns in areas that had these rock stacks. After thinking about this for a while I looked off to the west from the east end of the alignment. I was amazed at what I saw. Between my position and the peak of Mt. Shasta was a tall 4000' high ridge of mountains. This ridge blocked the view of Mt. Shasta from most points in this area. I was amazed to find that this alignment was placed in a spot where the peak of the mountain could be seen. A notch in the ridge of mountains allows one to view the snowy peak of Mt. Shasta from the alignment. The Natives built an alignment here not only to mark the location of the mountain but the notch in the ridge that made it visible in addition to the demarcation of the equinox events. To sight the peak you have to stand at the east end of the alignment of rock stacks and view the peak through the notch in the ridge. Amazing! After I checked the planetarium software I realized this alignment marked the equinox events! There is no doubt as to the Native American origins of this sighting device. The feature was surrounded by flakes of obsidian that were used to produce stone tools as well as fragments of some of the tools themselves. It was also nearby an ancient village site.

[nearing]

Anyone know the exact location of Dulce? I may need to go on a field trip...

[RMorgan]

You can find MANY of these tunnels on São Tomé das Letras, Minas Gerais State, Brazil.

My older brother organized an expedition on some of these tunnels. He and his team traveled 3 days on one of them, but they had to stop, because it was obstructed by sand.

During his studies, he concluded that these tunnels are not made by rain or water. They seem to be made using some kind of rotational tool. He also have found many ceramic instruments, like pots and pipes. After sending those instrument to analyses, some archaeologists found them to be Mayan.

[Realeyes]

THANK YOU EVERYONE who has contributed to this amazing thread! I am wowed!!!

[phillipbbg]

Here is a VID on the Antarctic entrances.... I after looking up on Google earth took a screen shot of my finding the entrance myself which any of you can do as well

Screen shot on my google docs https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=0B--...1YTU3&hl=en_US

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DirMYyERmVI

[KosmicKat]

Re: Carmody and monoatomic alchemical gold, I am reminded of Chaucer's wry observation (The Canterbury Pilgrims) that physicians prize gold above all other medicines.

This thread, totally drinking from the firehose!

[Lefty Dave]

Greetings Phillipbbg
anxious to know the dimensions of that new opening you found in antarctica...thanks for the post.

[phillipbbg]

Posted by Lefty Dave (here)
Greetings Phillipbbg
anxious to know the dimensions of that new opening you found in antarctica...thanks for the post.

To be honest I don't know, I watched the video and decided to see if it was real or not, got on google earth and worked my way into the right area zoomed in .... to my surprise it is there... so I took a screen shot and stored for use on forums. This does not happen often when verifying video evidence. But it is not small because Google Earth can only focus to about 5 - 10 mtr squared so its quite large... to me it could well be a volcanic vent, I think you could fly a small plane into it as it is on a ridge... I will track it again and post the co-ordinates.

Buggers Google Earth is only a plug in for me now, and I don't use it enough to get the Pro version, but the size is 40 meters by 20 meters high aprox

Here is a link URL that will take you to what I have been looking at, just zoom in bit by bit and you will see it...

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?q=Antarctica&hl=en&ll=-66.554821,99.84375&spn=0.037018,0.234489&sll=53.800651,-4.064941&sspn=14.097003,43.286133&vpsrc=6&t=h&z=13

[DNA]

Posted by DNA (here)
I'll start off with #8 THE MALTESE CAVE
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By: Seth Haniel
In an article which appeared in the August, 1940 issue of the NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC Magazine. The article stated the following concerning several people who disappeared in these catacombs without a trace:

The story goes much "deeper" however, than the NATIONAL GEOGRAPHIC article indicates. Other sources say that ABOUT 30 CHILDREN vanished in these catacombs on the study tour, and that when the "Hypogeum" was first discovered nearly 30,000 human skeletons of men, women and children (victims of ancient sacrifice to the "underworld gods", performed by an old neolithic race) were discovered as well.

One article written by a Miss Lois Jessup, at the time an employee of the British embassy and later secretary for the New York Saucer Information Bureau (better known as NYSIB), appeared in an old issue of Riley Crabb's BORDERLAND SCIENCE magazine, published by the Borderland Sciences Research Foundation (B.S.R.F.) and was later reprinted in full in Dr. Allen's book ENIGMA FANTASTIQUE.

Miss Jessup claimed that she visited Malta and the Hypogeum also, once before the tragic disappearance of the children, and shortly thereafter. She described how on her first visit to the catacombs she finally convinced the guide to allow her to investigate one of the so-called "burial chambers" near the floor of the last chamber in the third sub-basement, the supposed "end" of the Hypogeum tour. He seemed to know something she didn't, but finally consented and told her that she could enter at "her own risk". As she did so, candle in hand and her loosed sash being used as a guide rope for her friends who followed behind, she crawled through the small passage and eventually emerged into a large cavern, where she found herself on a ledge overlooking a very deep, seemingly bottomless chasm. Below and on the other side of the chasm was another ledge which appeared to lead to a doorway or tunnel in the far wall. We realize that what happened next might sound unbelievable to many who read this, but we would ask them to make their own determination of it's validity. Miss Jessup swears that what follows really happened.

Out of this lower tunnel on the far side of the chasm, she claims, emerged in single file several very large creatures of humanoid form but completely covered with hair from head to foot. Noticing her, they raised their arms in her direction, palms out, at which point a violent "wind" began to blow through the cavern, snuffing out her candle. Then, some "thing" wet and slippery (apparently a creature of a different sort) brushed past her. This all happened just as the person behind her was beginning to emerge from the passage and into the cavern. They could not understand her panicked attempts to get back to the "Hypogeum" room, but they consented after she insisted. When they found themselves back in the Hypogeum chamber, the guide saw her expression and gave her a "knowing" look. About a week afterwards the disappearance of the children and their teacher(s) took place, and on her second visit she saw an entirely new guide who denied that the other guide had ever worked there, although she knew that this new guide was hiding something.

She learned from more cooperative sources however, that THIS was the tunnel that the children and their teacher(s) and possibly the old guide, had entered. She also learned that after the last child had made it through, the walls of the small tunnel just "happened" to collapse or cave-in. Although the official version stated that the walls caved-in on the students, search parties were never able to locate any trace of the teacher(s) or the children, although the rope that they had used to fasten themselves to the lower Hypogeum chamber was found to have been CLEAN CUT as if by something sharp (not falling rock). It was asserted that for weeks afterwards the wailing and screaming of children was heard underground in different parts of the island, but no one could locate the sources of the cries.
As for the Catacombs beneath Malta itself, there are some ancient accounts which say that deep caverns beneath the island continue underground BEYOND the shores, and according to one source [i.e. the ever elusive "Commander-X"], part of this labyrinth stretches hundreds of miles northwards and intersects with catacombs beneath Rome (the hill Vaticanus?) or at least did so in ancient times...

More on this mysterious Hypogeum in Malta from Linda Moulton Howe:

Malta's 6,000-Year-Old Hypogeum -
Built to Alter Minds with Sound? Click for report.

“There is a niche carved at the back of the Hypogeum oracle room
chamber that seems like a deliberate amplification channel for throwing sound.”
-Linda Eneix, Founder, Mediterranean Inst. of Ancient Civilizations



The Oracle Room has a powerful acoustic resonance in the
Hal Saflieni Hypogeum of Paola, Malta, the only prehistoric underground
temple in the world dated to about 6,000 years old. Hypogeum means
“underground” in Greek. Image

[GoodETxSG]

Posted by HURRITT ENYETO (here)
Interesting that the Cherokee also talked of 'Blue Men'.
I was listening to an interview the other night and the guest (cant remember his name) said that a race of Blue skinned Aliens came to the Earth and lived amongst the people for hundreds of years.
He claimed these people are whom the Hindus worship as gods (remember the Hindu Gods are blue skinned)

Cheers for this very interesting thread OP
Hurritt

This is the story that my Cherokee grand father told me as a child. He led me to believe that they were "Fish People" or aquatic in nature. Did this interview mention this story of the Cherokee blue skinned people? If so please try to remember any names in the interview so I can find it. It would be much appreciated!

[GoodETxSG]

I also have a more complete list of both bases and entrances somewhere in my documentation. I will search for it and post it ASAP; some of the places surprised me. It should open the conversation up even more.
Thanks again...