The infiltration of the New Age Movement and Andrija Puharich

[starninja]

Those that say that they do not need their minds are under mind control, the reason of the avoidance is that the fragmented mind is to painful and hence the individuals chose to avoid using their minds

Stardust,
Well said. Those who built their identity and self-worth based on New Age belief system will do anything to protect their beliefs. Challenging their belief system would equal losing self-worth and identity. So, they have fragmented mind and they escape from their feelings at any cost.

[starninja]

Articles, vides, and discussions here forced me to ask some questions.

Is there a connection between as Alan Watts said being “equally insecure” and New Age belief system?

Is there a connection between the explosion of anxiety, depression, and other mental illnesses and the New Age belief system?

Why do people who are deeply involved in the New Age display total emotional emptiness?

Is there a connection between practicing Transcendental Meditation and cognitive impairment?

How does involvement in the New Age beliefs and practice affect our relationships with others?

Are we fully alive, full of joy, and passions, following our heart desire?

Who did promote the New Age beliefs?

How the New Age belief system was incorporated into psychology, education, or business?

What is the ultimate goal of the New Age movement?

Why do we accept a new belief system without questioning and researching?

These are some questions that we need to ask. Of course, uncovering mind control is like peeling an onion. But it is a good start.
Baxter had been teaching TM for 17 years. Her findings into the nature of TM and Hindu religion are fully supported by this 13 parts documentary movie as well as by my research.


Excerpt from Bronte Baxter
What I expected to see when I came back to the Fairfield scene after 20 years away from Transcendental Meditation was a group of mainstay meditators true-blue to Maharishi and a group of robust dissenters, whose minds questioned everything they learned from their guru days. Instead, I found the true-blue meditators, but not the kind of dissenters I anticipated. I encountered people who had left the TM movement but hadn’t substantially changed their belief system. This latter group had changed in the way that people change hats, or redecorate their homes, leaving unaltered the structure underneath.
The dissenters had splintered into a myriad of Eastern or Eastern-related philosophies: Eckhart Tolle, Byron Katie and Andrew Cohen were popular, and Neo-Advaitin gurus had rallied many behind their minimalist philosophy.


“They have to be detached and removed from their emotions and compassion. Their inhumanness is seeing as spiritual”

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=TOjLV_IvMtQ

Once a deeply entrenched belief system is difficult to change. It doesn’t matter if it is Buddhism, Hindu, or other religious or spiritual belief system. The key is convincing us that we need spiritual belief system that explains our reality and provides guidance. Through generations we were and still are indoctrinated with external locus of control and religions as well as science played this role very well.

[starninja]

“Marriage and traditional values are rotten………….Family is seen as necessarily evil.
I thought that Maharishi was strengthening my family. He was weakening my family because I turned my all attention on myself”

https://youtube.com/watch#!v=jgWn...eature=related

To disconnect our body from our soul is a price that we will have to pay for spiritual enlightenment.

Excerpt fro Bronte Baxter
Empty of original thought and dynamic desire, the “liberated” person’s ego is dissolved: the very thing that made him or her human. All that is left is a mind-body shell, a meat-robot, that moves through life as a surrendered instrument of some greater will. I suggest the greater will is not that of the Infinite. It is the will of the god who has taken the place of one’s mind.

[starninja]

When I found myself attached emotionally and physically I found difficult to maintain celibacy. The way I resolved that it was I turned her into object of dislike or hate……
According to Hindu tradition there is no salvation for women”

https://youtube.com/watch#!v=1gFP...eature=related

Excerpt from Bronte Baxter
Through religion, schooling, news and entertainment, we are programmed to accept ideas that take away our natural autonomy and empowerment. We’re taught that we are born into sin, or that we’re born into ignorance. We’re told we’re selfish and greedy, and that ego identification (cherishing our individuality) is the root of all suffering. We’re told we must forfeit freedoms so we can have safety and justice. We’re told the world is a dangerous place and only governments, rules and restrictions can protect us: the bigger they are, the better the protection. The more we accept these ideas, the more fear takes over our subconscious minds in the form of deep-seated attitudes that tell us we can’t trust ourselves, and that we are little and powerless. By the time we are adults, our subconscious is in a pretty saturated state of self-doubt, which is why our conscious mind builds so many cathedrals to things outside ourselves that we trust to take care of us and explain the world to us. Spiritual teachers, religious leaders, charismatic politicians, celebrities – we let what they say determine what is real and what is right. Because we have no faith in our ability to know what is real and right for ourselves.

A good explanation how we were manipulated to feel insecure and disempowered. Promoting celibacy as well as emotional detachment will foster sense of insecurity.

[starninja]

“People undergo a change in value system and become confused what is right or what is wrong…….No moral standards upon which to act……………They ask you to brainless obedience…………….They seek to escape something by numbing emotions and compassions through meditation”

https://youtube.com/watch#!v=Ld5k...eature=related

Excerpt from Bronte Baxter
When cherished beliefs are assaulted by new knowledge, the foundations of our world take the hit. That means the foundations of our psyche itself, because that is where our deepest beliefs are structured, deep in subconscious mind. I don’t think a person can question and explore reality without feeling shaken, even shattered, from time to time, and I want to talk about how I personally deal with that. Because the ability to deal with that determines whether we move forward in our quest or turn tail and beat it back to base camp, trying to block out what we heard and saw in the forest.
The word “zombie” is appropriate because of its meaning as the walking dead.
The death of free will, passion, desire and originality – sounds a lot like enlightenment, doesn’t it. The surrender of the individual to the collective. Control of the collective by divine-right rulers, and control of those rulers by the cosmic band of thugs themselves. The rise of the great Fourth Reich.

Without moral standards, inner value system, identity, and feelings and emotions we are lost and totally disempowered. Sounds like the optimal scenario of New World Order.

[greybeard]

Starinja
There is a lot of truth in what you say.
Many things were hijacked and distorted by New age and through New age
Ascension as presented by the new age has nothing to do with true spiritual evolution.
New age started of well meaning, hearts roses flower power, then the Lower astral got in there and used it as a vehicle to take people away from God..
Spirituality has nothing to do with any religion including Hinduism.
Enlightenment is an entirely different thing -- its freedom from ignorance freedom from bondage freedom from the cycle of birth death.
It is being in the Joy body.
In India thespiritual quest did no begin in earnest till all family responsibilities were taken care of, at quite an age, in the last years of life,
Modern times most sages are alive with children.
Generalities are not helpful.
Enlightenment is a specific state testified to many since the dawn of time --union with God many ways of getting there, Tantric teaches enlightenment through the sexual union of man and woman.
Ancient wisdom got distorted totally by those who fear God with good reason to do so.
Hope I m in keeping with the essence of this thread.
Chris

[starninja]

Chris,
No, you don’t. The topic of this tread is the Infiltration of the New Age Movement. Sorry, but you have your own tread that promotes transcendence of the ego. With all respect, could you please read post “ 243 and 244 and respect the wishes of the author and the readers.

[greybeard]

Posted by starninja (here)
Chris,
No, you don’t. The topic of this tread is the Infiltration of the New Age Movement. Sorry, but you have your own tread that promotes transcendence of the ego. With all respect, could you please read post “ 243 and 244 and respect the wishes of the author and the readers.

With respect you brought up the subject of spiritual beliefs.
I agree with you re moral values and many other things you said.
I dont have a thread in that it dosent belong to me anyone can wander in and post as they feel free. A wide variety of opinions.
No control needed.
Stardust posts there and is welcome you obviously can if you wish its an open door.
Please read my post again.
I think it is in keeping with what you wrote.
I agree that New age is infiltrated that surely falls with in the essence spirit of the thread
Regards Chris

[starninja]

I have read your post and I am not interested in your beliefs. If I were, I would go to your tread but I don't. I don't want to continue this discussion any further. I think that I have stated very clearly what I need and if I you are not going to accept my wishes but to continue this meaningless discussion I will put you on my ignore list.

Best regards,

[stardustaquarion]

[QUOTE=starninja;24098]Articles, vides, and discussions here forced me to ask some questions.

Is there a connection between as Alan Watts said being “equally insecure” and New Age belief system?

I personally think there is, the reason is that people are encouraged not to think and analize and that is a problem for the being. We have 12 bodies, they are interconected so we can not refuse incoming information and when we do we create chaos into our system because there is the inevitable built up of energy that has to go somewhere and it takes me to the next one

Is there a connection between the explosion of anxiety, depression, and other mental illnesses and the New Age belief system?

In my opinion there is, because excess of unprocesed energy creates blockages that interfere with the normal action of the chakras which are energy interchange systems

Why do people who are deeply involved in the New Age display total emotional emptiness?

Because people are giving their power away and workshiping something or other, hence they spend their emotional energy so no energy for eanything else like thinking or creating, or being warm to others

Is there a connection between practicing Transcendental Meditation and cognitive impairment?
It appears to be the case. Most of the mantras given to people were just the repetition of the name of saints, that is quite a con if you think about it because they were charging thousand to give you a name

Now, what happens when we give our power away, we get depleted. The depletion can be such that can alter the wiring of the brain and of course that causes malcfuntion

Consider also that when we workship something we are opening ourselves to those energies, if those energies are predatorial there will be negative consecuences

How does involvement in the New Age beliefs and practice affect our relationships with others?

This is an interesting one, I think it makes people feel superior to other lesser beings that are not "in the know" as in "my god is better than yours"

Are we fully alive, full of joy, and passions, following our heart desire?
My personal experience says no, it is all a facade and I was quite ill at the end of my personal experience, I realized that I got tagged more than once later on. Fortunately with other techineques all the tags have been now removed

Who did promote the New Age beliefs?
That is something that I am not clear 100 pct yet but there is evidence that it was started by Puharich

How the New Age belief system was incorporated into psychology, education, or business?
It permeated all lines of thought and schooling dumming down the population, everithing became an mind illness it is sad but hilarious at the same time. Business was very shy of this and it still is, not surprising, it is controlled by the illuminati so you can see why they did not promoted it there. Business is more callous now than it was when the NA started, it is the total opposite

My own experience of the two worlds was like walking into a time warp. Here business hat, here NA hat, and those that promote these ideas like Scientology, Druvalo, Hawkings, etc seem to be rather sharp bussiness people

What is the ultimate goal of the New Age movement?

My impression is that it was created to control people and make them believe they are cool and in the know when they are just buying the old re-packaged

Why do we accept a new belief system without questioning and researching?
You do ask interesting questions, because we are programed to accept authority and to believe that books are good. Also television used to be taken seriously and now it does not matter because people are being hypnotized with the digital TVs

[stardustaquarion]

Wow Starninja, what an excellent collection of very sharp and insightfull posts!

The key to all the deception in my oppinion is keeping people workshiping something outside yourself, Why? Does God need workshipping?

If we have to workship something it means to me that we are lesser than that something which is a contradiction. If Source created us alike it implies that if there is any workshiping it should start by workshiping ourselves which is rather odd, because it will imply that we ourselves consider a part of ourselves better than the other...that seems to me like a mental illness

Most people workship because they are afraid and they have been told that if they don't do this or the other there will be consequences, so the controlers use fear of lack of something to manipulate people and make them give away their power to another which is in essence life force

So If god give us life force why will it want it back? It is mad

I guess that in my explorations I have found that all that require us to workship them are in reality lacking life force and hence they can not be god or source as I call it

Just some thoughts

[Artemis]

hahahaha.... this was funny.... stardust ..have you invite your twin into this thread.... same energy-pattern and same frequence ...
but I can agree thats one way to get the thread back on track....

[stardustaquarion]

I was thinking about divisions and I realized that we have been lead to believe we are our worse enemy.....what a lie!

Take the body for example, even with the harsh life and all the junk food that we unwittingly have consumed until we knew better, isn't it amazing? It has its own intelligence, if we do not abuse it too much it runs like clockwork (and this feature is a bit anoying in england because my body wakes me up at chiken time ...dawn and it will not change even with eye masks) But we are told it is not good enough, we have to make it grow to 6 feet and be size 4???????????????????????????

It may be the illuminati's taste for women, but this one is not playing ball anymore. Revellion! I love my body exactly as it is and I am having long and passionated conversations with my atoms to optimize everything....

If you go to youtube, how many videos you find that tells you how to get in shape....talking about mind control, this is body control and yes I think being sensible is important but we are obsessed with calories to be hip and cool new age babe

We create our reality....mmmm....I think yes, at least on my direct experience, so what do you think it happens when you are counting calories? You are obsessed with food hence all diets fail...New Age, rubbish, there is no such a thing as new age, control, control, control

I have lost more weight by being focus on loving myself than with any diet I have ever done!

Food fot though

PS fashion is the same story, but you don't have to eat dresses

[stardustaquarion]

And also the alien threat

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=uQZBU4RGuTY

[HORIZONS]

Posted by stardustaquarion (here)
Wow Starninja, what an excellent collection of very sharp and insightfull posts!

The key to all the deception in my oppinion is keeping people workshiping something outside yourself, Why? Does God need workshipping?

If we have to workship something it means to me that we are lesser than that something which is a contradiction. If Source created us alike it implies that if there is any workshiping it should start by workshiping ourselves which is rather odd, because it will imply that we ourselves consider a part of ourselves better than the other...that seems to me like a mental illness

Most people workship because they are afraid and they have been told that if they don't do this or the other there will be consequences, so the controlers use fear of lack of something to manipulate people and make them give away their power to another which is in essence life force

So If god give us life force why will it want it back? It is mad

I guess that in my explorations I have found that all that require us to workship them are in reality lacking life force and hence they can not be god or source as I call it

Just some thoughts

I agree with you - very good points by Starninja and what you have to say as well.

I will say that back in the day when I used to do word studies in greek and hebrew the definition of "worship" as I understand it is a "face to face relationship" in equality, as opposed to surrendering to a greater being, begging for mercy. For me this changed everything and opened up a whole new path to understanding God. My belief is that it is the desire of God for us to be empowered with all God-like abilities and not be a follower of someone else's idea/concept of God - like that which is taught in the New Age Movement and all religions. I also agree that the Truth is within us as who we Truly are, not the external false concepts presented to us by all the bulldung peddlers.
If the Truth is external we are screwed, if it is within us then there is hope, for those that seek will find it.

[stardustaquarion]

Dear Horizons

The truth is internal, what others do for us is just prompting to re-member, to conect the dots and from then onwars is a one to one relationship with source and all other parts of oneself

[HORIZONS]

Posted by stardustaquarion (here)
Dear Horizons

The truth is internal, what others do for us is just prompting to re-member, to conect the dots and from then onwars is a one to one relationship with source and all other parts of oneself

Thank you! I fully agree with you.

"We can walk this road together if our goals are all the same" - Rush Hemispheres

[Moxie]

The etymology study I did on on the word "worship" is all about "worth ship".. the state of being worthy... which will keep one debasing itself or judging itself endlessly for comparison to some contrived depiction of perfect....

[starninja]

Thank you Stardust and HORIZONS,
I feel so energized and stimulated by being around like-minded people you are.

hahaha.... this was funny.... stardust ..have you invite your twin into this thread.... same energy-pattern and same frequence ...
but I can agree thats one way to get the thread back on track....

Artemis,
.......... Our names start with Star.

Stardust,
Thank you for posting Bill Cooper video. I have been looking for this for a longer while. The extent of mind control is overwhelming, isn't it?

[stardustaquarion]

Posted by Moxie (here)
The etymology study I did on on the word "worship" is all about "worth ship".. the state of being worthy... which will keep one debasing itself or judging itself endlessly for comparison to some contrived depiction of perfect....

Thank you for that Moxie, not being English I some times don't quite get it but its meaning is significantly worse than I thought