Planet X/Nibiru/Tyche/Hercolobus/Elenin

[loveandgratitude]

Today We will Try For Our Last Picture of Comet Elenin For The Next Few Months
•June 24, 2011 • 7 Comments

Sydneystargazers is a astronomy site which for the last few months has been taking pictures of Elenin to prove that it is a comet and not a brown dwarf as some on the Internet may want you to believe.

We have proved that Elenin is nothing more than a comet and will take one more picture opportunity of Elenin in a little while and make it the last shot of Elenin for the time being until the comet gets closer to the Sun later this year. When we start taking pictures of Elenin in a few months time we are hoping to have some great shots of this comet.

So after today we will be focusing on more important issues such as the brightening supernova in M51.

Update:

Below is the latest picture of elenin at position 10h 37m 24s +7° 18′ 22″

FOR PHOTOS PLEASE GO TO THIS LINK AS THEY HAVE ASKED THAT THEIR PHOTOS NOT TO BE RE-PRODUCED ON OTHER SITES. Scroll down to this article and view photos of Elenin.

http://sydneystargazers.com/

[Mutchie]

Go girl proud of you caroline !!!

[Calz]

Posted by Carolin (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Posted by Carolin (here)
HOAXLAND IS A SHILL

I guess if we believed government employees, past or present, we wouldn't be members of this forum.

I think that Leonid Elenin's website www.spaceobs.org is a shill also. I looked through the website briefly and couldn't find anything about the alignment dates. Has anybody else found anything credible on this website? Do you guys believe that Elenin has a 12, 989 year orbit?

Most every Camelot interview subject has been trashed by someone or another.

Bob Dean is such a "teddy bear" perhaps no one will dare say a discouraging word.

No doubt there are others.

Seems odd avalon/camelot members who are here (allegedly) because of such interviews have such negativity to heap upon them.

As I recall Hoagland was a member of the "press" which (officially) (last I checked) is not a government agency (altho they sure follow marching orders ... but going back what ... to the 60's when he was covering Nasa things were not so blatant?)

Hi Calz,

I was actually quoting Mutchie with "HOAXLAND IS A SHILL" but I lost my quotation marks while I was cutting it down....still a newbie. As far as Hoagland goes, his facebook info says he was a former Nasa consultant and that to me says government. Regardless, it doesn't matter to me if it's the government, the church, a teacher, my parents, my best-friends or my husband. I evauate EVERYTHING I hear with my own discernment. Just because somebody has a valid point in one respect doesn't mean the next thing out of their mouth will be just as valid. Everyone including me has been a shill without even realizing it. We repeat what we hear because we think it's truth. Just because it's been said over and over again doesn't make it my truth. But I digress, in my experience government/military are so segregated that they only see part of the whole unless they are out of the box thinkers.

Funny you should mention Bob Dean. I just watched their last interview with him and I could swear that I heard him tell Kerry to check something herself....not to believe him. I don't recall the subject and it really doesn't matter the point is the same "CHECK IT OUT YOURSELF". By the way people, how does somebody 82 look that good.

"Seems odd avalon/camelot members who are here (allegedly) because of such interviews have such negativity to heap upon them." Now Calz, you couldn't be talking about me here because you don't know me well enough to make that statement. But it's nice to see you have such loyalty to this forum.

Just got back to this thread.

Thanks for the elaboration. My comment(s) were triggered by the "HOAX" comment but it was simply a matter of building frustration. It was not directed at anyone in particular just grabbed the "quote" (which you say got lost in edits which happen sometimes).

I got my "rant on" in another (started) thread so there is nothing to really add.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...whistleblowers

I *do* appreciate the follow up as my biggest frustration is "hit and run" smears without explanations or following up on calls for elaboration.

Cheers

[DoubleHelix]

One doesn't have to allow themselves to get frustrated

If you finds someones' material to be of some value, then surely that's all that matters.

Defending someone as a virtual bodyguard is a battle already lost, for every public figure (including alternative) will have there share of naysayers.

That's the nature of the game, one could even view the negativity as a positive.

[Calz]

Posted by DoubleHelix (here)
One doesn't have to allow themselves to get frustrated

If you finds someones' material to be of some value, then surely that's all that matters.

Defending someone as a virtual bodyguard is a battle already lost, for every public figure (including alternative) will have there share of naysayers.

That's the nature of the game, one could even view the negativity as a positive.

Agreed.

I am rather laid back.

Out of 1300+ posts the only time I have ever gotten "worked up" is when I make a post regarding one of the many camelot/avalon interviewees and either I sustain a personal attack for doing so or the subject of the post sustains a personal attack.

If there is an expanation given for a difference of opinion I am fine with that (regardless of if I agree of not).

Differing opinions are good for growth. In those circumstances I will consider the other opinion and not simply dismiss it.

If, on the other hand, someone says "XXXXXXXX is an idiot and you are an even bigger idiot for believing in XXXXXXXX" and disappears from the thread without following up or offering an explanation for the comment ... that is what I have issue with.


*** adding ***


my other "rant" thread I put in the "ligher side" forum and had fun with:


https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...Fulford-Thread

[DoubleHelix]

Schoolyard tactics like 'hit n runs' are commonplace amongst forums... adds to the drama.

And everybody loves drama - as most would of witnessed over the last 6 months.

[Mutchie]

Does anyone have any info on the camelot conference call regarding ELENIN ????? THANK YOU

[Carolin]

Personally, I can do without the drama. Truth is subjective and very personal. As far as experts, teachers or gurus....I always try and avoid the ones who think they have all the answers. They are usually speaking from their ego and not the higher truth. But, that's just my opinion.

[Calz]

Interesting post from Joseph Farrell:


IF YOU HAPPEN TO SEE AN ANGEL UP THERE, IT’S CLASSIFIED


June 24, 2011 By Joseph P. Farrell

Ok, with all the fear pornography running loose with Comet Elenin, this story appears:

Angels In Space\”Top Secret Hallucinations\”

I am, as most know by now, suspicious of such stories, for the simple reason that, now, they seem to be cropping up with increased intensity with all the hysteria associated with comet Elenin. Whether or not the cosmonauts saw anything genuine, or experienced some sort of mass hallucination, is immaterial. What is important is that the “angels” were also described as “aliens”: “The aliens looked like humans, but were of higher stature. They also had large wings behind their backs and luminous halos above their heads. The creatures looked like angels.”

It would be all too easy to plant the story of human-like “aliens,” after all, such was the story of George Adamski. And it has long been a favorite of the ufology religion to interpret such appearances as rationalization for ancient myths and stories of angels. Consider also the source: Russia. It is intriguing to me that this story comes from Russia, with a repeat of the story that the Hubble telescope photographed a “space city.”

What we’re looking at here is, obviously, pure propaganda, but notice what seems to be happening lately, with all the spate of TV shows (and movies) about unfriendly aliens launching sudden and devastating invasions of earth: V, Independence Day, Falling Skies, the Event, and on and on it has gone. From one point of view, it’s been a nice entertainment and distraction for the troubles right here on planet Earth.

But I’ve noticed something, and I’m wondering if I’m the only one: the Elenin hysteria seems to be filling the last two stages of the celebrated Von-Braun/Rosin Affidavit with one fell swoop. For those that don’t remember the story, Dr. Carol Rosin maintains that she, as one of Dr. Wernher Von Braun’s last professional associates at Fairchild Industries, told her that the elite had a pre-planned program of “enemies,” which would allow them to put “weapons in space,” presumably weapons of mass destruction (for reasons we’ll get to shortly). According to Rosin, Von Braun told her that the first enemy against whom we’d have to deploy weapons in space was the Communists, the Russians. Then it would be terrorists, then “nations of concern”(that’s the third world crazies), then would come asteroids on collision courses with the Earth, and finally, extraterrestrials.

Well, how convenient it is to have comets and asteroids in weird orbits, and with even weirder properties that suggest to some that they might be “artificial.” One may be looking at a manufactured attempt to kill two birds in Von Braun’s affidavit, with one stone: both aliens and asteroids: the aliens “are coming on a comet” in an extinction level event. We’d better get those GRASERS (gamma-ray lasers) up in orbit quickly, and crank up the ionospheric heaters…. well, you get the idea.


http://gizadeathstar.com/2011/06/if-...ts-classified/

[Operator]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Interesting post from Joseph Farrell:

...

Well, how convenient it is to have comets and asteroids in weird orbits, and with even weirder properties that suggest to some that they might be “artificial.” One may be looking at a manufactured attempt to kill two birds in Von Braun’s affidavit, with one stone: both aliens and asteroids: the aliens “are coming on a comet” in an extinction level event. We’d better get those GRASERS (gamma-ray lasers) up in orbit quickly, and crank up the ionospheric heaters…. well, you get the idea.

Well that's not new, we've that covered several times I think in this thread. But it's good to emphasize again I think.
And of course the story will be used to make some more money on taking 'grasers' up in orbit. But that's only the
money making scheme

I got a new idea recently about what would be more effective and may possibly applied: Chem Trails ...
Remember that there is a lot of Aluminum and Barium composites measured from them.

Didn't Boyd Bushman tell David Sereda that Aluminum contains special properties in regard to gravity ?
So, maybe those metal screens will make it difficult for such machines to enter our atmosphere ...

[Calz]

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Interesting post from Joseph Farrell:

...

Well, how convenient it is to have comets and asteroids in weird orbits, and with even weirder properties that suggest to some that they might be “artificial.” One may be looking at a manufactured attempt to kill two birds in Von Braun’s affidavit, with one stone: both aliens and asteroids: the aliens “are coming on a comet” in an extinction level event. We’d better get those GRASERS (gamma-ray lasers) up in orbit quickly, and crank up the ionospheric heaters…. well, you get the idea.

Well that's not new, we've that covered several times I think in this thread. But it's good to emphasize again I think.
And of course the story will be used to make some more money on taking 'grasers' up in orbit. But that's only the
money making scheme

I got a new idea recently about what would be more effective and may possibly applied: Chem Trails ...
Remember that there is a lot of Aluminum and Barium composites measured from them.

Didn't Boyd Bushman tell David Sereda that Aluminum contains special properties in regard to gravity ?
So, maybe those metal screens will make it difficult for such machines to enter our atmosphere ...

I copied his whole post ... the "angels/aliens" being classified material is what I found amusing

As for aluminum and barium ... interesting theory (among many).

No doubt it is happening:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Wd3ncIHwFS8

*** adding ***

In respect to the thread title ... the elenin conference speakers are in agreement that it *is* a comet (albiet unusual but not niburu or dwarf). That is all I will share (aside from there being some all day *serious* DOS attacks on Camelot site putting it up yesterday). Someone tried desperately to shut down the spread of the material which should say something in itself. Still available to those who want the details.

[Operator]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
I copied his whole post ... the "angels/aliens" being classified material is what I found amusing

Yeah, no problem ... my remark was just related to the last part.
So that's why I left out the first part.

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
As for aluminum and barium ... interesting theory (among many).

No doubt it is happening:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Wd3ncIHwFS8

Good find and memory ...

That was exactly the post and thread I wanted to launch this idea (but I had to no time then and forgot about it).
But the case on the ranch could very well underline this theory ...

[Eyes2theSkies]

Thanks for the further video, bashi, I am still trying to educate myself on this subject. There is still so much we don't know and can't see - unless we can afford big, expensive telescopes. I learned, several years ago, that broaching the subject of UFOs, planet X or anything else unusual, with the local public astronomers does not go well. A local astronomer, here in central Ohio, has a newspaper column so, I started out asking some basic questions about our local observatory (which this man is involved with) and recieved a kind, courteous reply to my email. Once I felt that my questions were being taken seriously, I asked a simple question - had he ever seen anything he could not explain? His reply was short and to the point, essentially he didn't have time to waste on this sort of question and he believed there was nothing out there that wasn't covered in astronomy books, meteorlogical text, psychology books or were aircraft and sattelites of our own design. This terminated our discussion, permanently, despite my humble reply of thanks.

Yes, we must find new ways of gathering information about what is happening in our solar system and the universe, without relying on scientists who are afraid of losing funding or admitting that they don't know everything!

[Carmody]

Posted by Operator (here)

Posted by yiolas (here)
Pretty dire warnings here. I'm just wondering how many of these will it take each of us to listen to in order to get off our butts and prepare .

Well normally my family goes on vacation to the Netherlands during summer. I somehow convinced them that this year may not be the most convenient period to be traveling.
We will stay in the Caribbean, thus giving us more time to finalize preparations. We have seeds planted, some food and other items stored.
But I can use the extra time to finalize my windmill and rainwater storage. Need to clean out the 20 foot container too. It can nicely serve as shelter as well as Faraday cage.
(Although not perfect it will probably protect somewhat against direct radiation too)

I am not at all that certain that it is Elenin that is going to create mayhem on this planet ... but there will be almost certain rough times ahead and we need to prepare anyway.
So yeah, Yiolas I know what you mean ... we have to do less talking and more doing ...

When TSHTF there will be not much time left ... to do personal preparation. That time will be consumed by 'others'. Either get them up to speed to or 'deal' with them
otherwise (hope that's not case of course). But by preparing now you already show them a good example to follow.
My former neighbor installed a rainwater storage capacity of 1000 gallons ! So trying to be an example already works ...

Go to manufacturing or industrial faculties to buy these for cheap, if you want to got that way:



Of course, only buy those that had benign chemicals (eg, organics), and clean thoroughly. Depending on the given acid, they may actually be the best choice. rinse etc.. fill, sit, let leech, rinse, etc.

Never tell them that you intend to use them for potable water, or they may refuse to sell them to you.

30-40 drops of MMS, and the water will be stable for months.

What to tell them: That you and the partner just bought a hobby farm or woodsy house with a barn. Behind the barn is a place that you have put new trees and plants in. Nothing for eating.

But, they need watering. So you want a container to catch the rainfall runoff from the barn roof, for watering these plants and new trees. You need to water the trees, but you need containers with the least dangerous chemicals in them and ones that can actually be cleansed of the given chemical/resin/whatever.

That story is believable. Use it.

These are called 'totes'. (these are 250 gallon 'skid totes') Ones that had "propylene glycol" in them are probably the best choice as the glycol is a food additive. The same food grade glycol is used in manufacturing facilities, not just food factories.

[Operator]

Posted by Carmody (here)

Go to manufacturing or industrial faculties to buy these for cheap, if you want to got that way:



Of course, only buy those that had benign chemicals (eg, organics), and clean thoroughly. Depending on the given acid, they may actually be the best choice. rinse etc.. fill, sit, let leech, rinse, etc.

Never tell them that you intend to use them for potable water, or they may refuse to sell them to you.

30-40 drops of MMS, and the water will be stable for months.

What to tell them: That you and the partner just bought a hobby farm or woodsy house with a barn. Behind the barn is a place that you have put new trees and plants in. Nothing for eating.

But, they need watering. So you want a container to catch the rainfall runoff from the barn roof, for watering these plants and new trees. You need to water the trees, but you need containers with the least dangerous chemicals in them and ones that can actually be cleansed of the given chemical/resin/whatever.

That story is believable. Use it.

These are called 'totes'. (these are 250 gallon 'skid totes') Ones that had "propylene glycol" in them are probably the best choice as the glycol is a food additive. The same food grade glycol is used in manufacturing facilities, not just food factories.

My neighbor got a 380 gallon brand new one which was quite expensive ... however it's black and does block the light to prevent algae forming in the water.
He has 2 of the crated white ones too ... they are sold by our local water company (so they're safe). They are 1 cubic meter = 1000 liters (approx. 250 Gallons indeed).
But algae might form in those ... he will use these for flushing the toilets and other cleaning jobs.

Now we're finally into ground crew talk ... the original purpose of the forum.

[blufire]

Hi guys,

Go to "farm supply stores" that sell water tanks. They come in all sizes and shapes and generally cheaper than "specialty" water tanks.

[The Truth Is In There]

"This is a condensed, summary, one video version of the Red Devil Planet series based on a caller into the Freedomslips radio show who seems to have inside, first hand knowledge about an incoming Dwarf Star solar system and what's to come.
Original Air date 6-6-2011 on http://www.freedomslips.com/
Warning: Not for the weak hearted."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wTLvNJSEBHM

make of it what you want. could be disinfo but i like it.

[Mike Gorman]

Posted by DoubleHelix (here)
I hope this doesn't go over everyone's head once again.

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post242372

The gentleman who discovered the object reassures us that no threat exists...I'm with him actually. This Doomsday Moses who is leading
survival groups into caves-in the Ozarks and groups here in Australia too, wow..I'd hate to be caught up with him in some cave-society, can you imagine the
megalomania? If he is right I am prepared to eat my words...

[yiolas]

Wow, that's quite a scenario there in the video. It has a lot of what Sitchen wrote about as well as what Nancy and the Zetas are saying.

What about, "Elenin = Extinction Level Event Niburu Is Near ?

The effects of the electromagnatic energy on our brains reminds me of something as well.

I think that the only thing we can do about this is stay close to mother earth and remain centered and calm.

[TargeT]

Posted by The Truth Is In There (here)

make of it what you want. could be disinfo but i like it.

so this is behind our sun and picking up speed as it prepares to pass, meaning no "hard evidence" will be avalible untill "too late" ?

Lead lined helmets eh? wonder if there's somewhere that does 2nd day shipping..

I certainly hope this isn't true,