Has white man colonised planet Earth?

[oceanz]

In this thread:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ish-King/page2
Siberia9 in response to why the Illuminati dislike Necromancers:

Yes they hunt Necromancers(the Gypsy's I speak of do), and that they are also afraid of anyone with a bloodline that is spiritual, American Indians, Gypsy's, etc etc which is why they are eliminated whenever possible.

I have never heard the word 'Necromancers' before but I immediately thought of 'Necromongers' -

a race of conquerors traveling across space toward the Underverse, a dark mirror of the normal universe where death has no meaning. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chronicles_of_Riddick

Of course in this movie Riddick is a 'Furyan' - very similar to 'Aryan'.

Back to Necomancers:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Necromancy

Necromancy is a form of magic in which the practitioner seeks to summon the spirit of a deceased person, either as an apparition or ghost, or to raise them bodily, for the purpose of divination.

Early necromancy is likely related to shamanism, which calls upon spirits such as the ghosts of ancestors.

Necromancy as the principal form of divination amongst the people of Persia (Strabo, xvi. 2, 39, νεκρομαντία), and it is believed to also have been widespread amongst the peoples of Chaldea (particularly amongst the Sabians or star-worshipers), Etruria, and Babylonia. The Babylonian necromancers were called Manzazuu or Sha'etemmu, and the spirits they raised were called Etemmu.

Norse mythology also contains examples of necromancy and was widespread in Western antiquity with records of practice in Babylon, Egypt, Greece, and Rome.

Many medieval writers believed resurrection was impossible without the assistance of the Christian God. They translated the practice of divination as conjuring demons who took the appearance of spirits. The practice became known explicitly as demonic magic and was condemned by the Roman Catholic Church.

Medieval necromancy is believed to be a synthesis of astral magic derived from Arabic influences and exorcism derived from Christian and Jewish teachings. Arabic influences are evident in rituals that involve moon phases, sun placement, day and time. Fumigation and the act of burying images are also found in both astral magic and necromancy. Christian and Jewish influences are found in the symbols and conjuration formulas used in summoning rituals.

Medieval practitioners believed they could accomplish three things with necromancy: will manipulation, illusions, and knowledge.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sumer

Sumerians believed that the universe consisted of a flat disk enclosed by a tin dome. The Sumerian afterlife involved a descent into a gloomy netherworld to spend eternity in a wretched existence as a Gidim (ghost).

<---- death has no meaning then.

Enlil, lord of the ghost-land, in the north at the temple of Nippur. His gifts to mankind were said to be the spells and incantations that the spirits of good or evil were compelled to obey

Sumerian writing is the oldest example of writing on earth.

Examples of Sumerian technology include: the wheel, cuneiform, arithmetic and geometry, irrigation systems, Sumerian boats, lunisolar calendar, bronze, leather, saws, chisels, hammers, braces, bits, nails, pins, rings, hoes, axes, knives, lancepoints, arrowheads, swords, glue, daggers, waterskins, bags, harnesses, armor, quivers, war chariots, scabbards, boots, sandals, harpoons, and beer. The Sumerians had three main types of boats:

(even perhaps Noah's Ark)

clinker-built sailboats stitched together with hair, featuring bitumen waterproofing
skin boats constructed from animal skins and reeds
wooden-oared ships, sometimes pulled upstream by people and animals walking along the nearby banks

Question, are the true Neomancers those with Rh Neg Blood (those without the Rhesus Monkey factor) who show a talent for Neomancing WITHOUT the use of spells/formulas etc? <--- a gift from Enlil?

http://www.greatdreams.com/reptlan/rhneg.htm

Many scientists believe that modern man evolved from ape-like primates. They have much proof to back up their theories, including modern blood analysis and comparative studies between modern man and lower anthripoids, such as the chimpanzee and the Rhesus monkey.

It has been proven that the majority of mankind (85%) has a blood factor common with the rhesus monkey. This is called rhesus positive blood. Usually shortened to Rh positive. This factor is completely independent from the A, B, 0 blood types.

In the study of genetics, we find that we can only inherit what our ancestors had except in the case of mutation. We can have any of numerous combinations of traits inherited from all our ancestors. Nothing more and nothing less. Therefore, if man and ape evolved from a common ancestor, their blood would have evolved the same way. Blood factors are transmitted with much more exactitude than any other characteristic. It would seem that modern man and rhesus monkey may have had a common ancestor sometime in the ancient past. All other earthly primates also have this Rh factor. But this leaves out the people who are Rh negative. If all mankind evolved from the same ancestor their blood would be compatible. Where did the Rh negatives come from? If they are not the descendants of prehistoric man, could they be the descendants of the ancient astronauts?

All animals and other living creatures known to man can breed with any other of their species. Relative size and color makes no difference. Why does infant's haemolytic disease occur in humans if all humans are the same species? Haemolytic disease is the allergic reaction that occurs when an Rh negative mother is carrying a Rh positive child. Her blood builds up antibodies to destroy an ALIEN substance (the same way it would a virus), thereby destroying the infant. Why would a mother's body reject her own offspring? Nowhere else in nature does this occur naturally. This same problem does occur in mules - a cross between a horse and donkey. This fact alone points to the distinct possibility of a cross-breeding between two similar but genetically different species.

No one has tried to explain where the Rh negative people came from. Most, familiar with blood factors, admit that these people must at least be a mutation if not descendants of a different ancestor. If we are a mutation, what caused the mutation? Why does it continue with the exact characteristics? Why does it so violently reject the Rh factor, if it was in their own ancestry? Who was this ancestor? Difficulties in determining ethnology are largely overcome by the use of blood group data, for they are a single gene characteristic and not affected by the environment.

Genesis 6:2 "The sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and took them wives, all of which they chose." Who were the children of these marriages? Genesis 6:4 "God came into the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, and the same became mighty of old." From the King James Bible dictionary we find: "menchildren - men of Israel, male children of God, not children of man - Ex. 34:23." Ex. 34:7 states "The iniquity of the father will be unto the children unto the fourth generation." It is plain that something is inherited, could it be the blood?

Blood is mentioned more often than any other word in the Bible, except God. These two words you will find on almost every page, blood and God! (The blood of the Gods?) This message has been written for thousands of years. There is a connection between the blood and the Gods.

The American Indians had the tradition of making good friends, "blood brothers", if they thought they were worthy. Could this tradition have been for a reason? Could they have actually been checking to see if they were blood brothers (the same type blood)? The clumping (aggulation) that occurs when Rh positive and Rh negative blood are mixed is visible to the naked eye. Could they have been told, by their ancestors, that their blood was different from that of the rest of mankind except for their brothers and sisters, from other tribes, scattered throughout the earth. Indian tradition declares that their ancestors were of cosmic origin. The Indian totem pole is actually a family genealogy.

[Calz]

Cannot remember if this has been posted already.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ngJ-H7fjsAk

*** adding ***

And on a "ligher note" this is rather amusing:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IL40kC4arGw

[seko]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
Cannot remember if this has been posted already.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ngJ-H7fjsAk

*** adding ***

And on a "ligher note" this is rather amusing:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=IL40kC4arGw

thank you for the video Calz, I still don't want to draw conclusion to who is who or the real story.

There is so much info out there......I'm a bit overloaded.

[Calz]

Posted by seko (here)
thank you for the video Calz, I still don't want to draw conclusion to who is who or the real story.

There is so much info out there......I'm a bit overloaded.

I agree. Was in no way suggesting the validity of these vids. Seemed interesting and thought I would put them out here.

Was trying to research whether the whole Enlil/Enki story came from Stitchin.

Other Sumerian tablet scholars don't agree with all of Stitchin's interpretations.

[Andrew]

I'm a little confused by this

Enki's journey to Nibru: c.1.1.4
In the shrine of Nibru, Enki provided a meal for Enlil, his father. He seated An at the head of the table and seated Enlil next to An. He seated Nintur in the place of honour and seated the Anuna gods at the adjacent places (?). All of them were drinking and enjoying beer and liquor. They filled the bronze aga vessels to the brim and started a competition, drinking from the bronze vessels of Uraš. They made the tilimda vessels shine like holy barges. After beer and liquor had been libated and enjoyed, and after …… from the house, Enlil was made happy in Nibru.

If Enki and Enlil are brothers why does it say above in BOLD that Enlil is Enki's father?
Link to page here

The Electronic Text Corpus of Sumerian Literature (ETCSL), a project of the University of Oxford.

[thunder24]

Enki and enlil are both sons of an. either typo, or they refer to enlil as father cause he became king?
peace

[Andrew]

The Empire was great, but there came from another uni-
verse violent people who tried to wrest our possessions from us.
These people were humanoid and upon their head they had
horny growths projecting from the area of the temples. They
also had a tail. These people were of a surpassingly warlike
nature, it was their sport as well as their work. In black ships
they poured into this universe and laid waste to worlds which
we had so recently seeded. In space cataclysmic battles took
place. Worlds were laid desolate, worlds erupted into gouts of
smoke and flame and their debris clutters the space ways as the
Asteroid Belt even to this day. Previously fertile worlds had
their atmosphere blasted away and all that lived there perished:
A world struck another world a glancing blow and threw it
against the Earth. The Earth juddered and shook and was
pushed into another orbit which made the Earth-day longer.
‘ “During the near-collision giant electric discharges leaped
from the two worlds. The skies flamed anew. Many of the
Earth-humans perished. Great floods swept the surface of the
world and compassionate Gardeners hurried around in their
Arks trying to load aboard humans and animals that they
should be safely conveyed to higher ground and safety. In later
years,” said the Voice, “this would give rise to incorrect
legends throughout all Earth lands. But in space the battle was
won. The forces of the Empire defeated the evil invaders and
made many of them captive.

‘ “The Prince of the Invaders, Prince Satan, pled for his life,
saying that he had much to teach the peoples of the Empire.
Saying that He would at all times work for the good of others.
His life and that of some of his leading men was spared. After a
period of captivity he expressed himself as anxious to co-oper-
ate in the rebuilding of the solar system which he had so de-
secrated. Being men of good will, the Empire admirals and
generals could not imagine treachery and evil intent in others.
They accepted the offer and set the Prince Satan and his
officers tasks under the supervision of Empire men.
‘ “On the Earth the natives were crazed by the experiences
they had undergone. They had been decimated by the in-
undation and by the flames from the clouds. Fresh stock was
brought from outlying planets where some humans had sur-
vived. The lands were now different, the seas were different.
Through the complete change in orbit the climate had altered.
Now there was a hot equatorial belt and ice formed very
heavily on the polar areas. Icebergs broke away from the main
masses and floated in the seas. Huge animals died in the sudden
cold. Forests collapsed when their living conditions changed so
drastically.

Here were another group of
Gardeners, or “Gods”. Horus, Osirus, Annubis, Isis, and many
others. Here too orgies were occurring. Here too a former
lieutenant of Prince Satan was at work trying to sabotage all
efforts to produce good for this little world. Here too were the
inevitable priests writing their endless and inaccurate legends:
Some there were who had wormed their way into the
confidence of the Gods and had so obtained knowledge nor-
mally forbidden to the natives for their own good. These
natives formed a secret society designed to steal more for-
bidden knowledge and to usurp the power of the Gardeners.
But the Voice continued to speak. “We had much trouble with
certain of the natives and had to introduce measures which
were repressive. Certain of the native priests, having stolen
equipment from the Gardeners, could not control them; they
loosed plagues upon the Earth. Vast numbers of the people
died. Crops were affected.
‘ “But certain of the Gardeners, under the control of Prince
Satan, had established a Capital of Sin in the cities of Sodom
and Gomorrah. Cities in which any form of vice or perversion
or depravity was considered as virtue. The Master of the
Empire solemnly warned Satan to desist and leave, but he
scoffed. Certain of the better inhabitants of Sodom and Gom-
orrah were advised to leave, and then, at the appointed time, a
solitary craft sped through the air and dropped a small package:
The cities were erased in flame and smoke. Great mushroom-
shaped clouds ascended into the quaking sky, and upon the
ground there was naught but devastation, rubble of stones,
melted rocks, and the incredible debris of human habitation in
decay. By night the area shone with a sickly purple radiance Very few escaped the holocaust.

‘ “Following this salutary warning, it was decided to with-
draw all the Gardeners from the face of the Earth and to have
no more contact with the natives but to treat them as speci-
mens from afar. Patrols would still enter the atmosphere. The
world and its natives still would be supervised. But no official
contact. Instead it was decided to have upon the Earth natives
who had been specially trained and who could be ‘planted’
where suitable people could find them. The man who later
became known as Moses was an example. A suitable native
woman was removed from the Earth and impregnated with the
seed having the necessary characteristics. The unborn child was
telepathically trained and given great — for a native — know-
ledge. He was hypnotically conditioned not to reveal the know-
ledge until an appointed time.
‘ “In due course the baby was born and further training and
conditioning was given. Later the baby was placed in a suitable
container and under cover of darkness was deposited securely in
a bed of reeds where he would speedily be found. As he grew to
manhood he was in frequent touch with us. When necessary a
small ship would come to a mountain and be concealed by the
natural clouds or even by those which we made ourselves. The
man Moses would then ascend the mountain and come aboard,
leaving after with a Wand of Power or specially compiled
Tablets of the Commandments which we had prepared for
him.

‘ “But this still was not enough. We had to go through a
similar procedure in other countries. In that land which now is
known as India we specially controlled and trained the male
child of a most powerful Prince. We considered that his power
and prestige would induce the natives to follow him and adhere
to a special form of discipline which we had formulated that
there should be an improvement in the spiritual state of the
natives. Gautama had his own ideas, however, and rather than
discard him we allowed him to produce his own form of
spiritual discipline. Once again we found that the disciples, or
priests — usually for their own gain — distorted the teachings in
their writings. Thus it ever was upon the Earth; a coterie of
men, self-styled priests, would edit or re-write scriptures that
their own powers and wealth should be enhanced.

And so on... this is from this book The Hermit by Lobsang Rampa a very interesting read.

[ Mod-edit: Lobsang Rampa's books (in pdf format) may now, February 2015, be found at http://www.lobsangrampa.org/research-material.html. -- Paul ]

I want to add this video here of Bob Dean, because at 107:00mins he talks about the the Prince of this world, I wonder if he is referring to the same Prince?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8s7c15K4kLo

[jcocks]

You know, it's funny...

I have a vivid image of planets coming in close contact and great massive electrical storms of such verocity it would place most people on Earth in a state of shock if they were to witness them..... I've had this image in my head as a kid, it made a huge impression in me. I used to think i got it from one of the books I used to own on the solar system...

Now I'm not so sure......

[Calz]

Interesting chat from Joseph Farrell on current evironment of "social engineering" from the "elite" via television shows with "alien invasion" themes and memes. Goes on to speculate towards the end about the "incoming" being "annunaki" who may not be real "happy" with the way things have been handled by the "elite" etc.

Doesn't break it down into Enlil/Enki factions but interesting enough to have a listen:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AOiIukAQh_c

[Calz]

btw - thanks to andrew for the link to the interesting book.

I might print it off and try to read it.

Here is an amazon review for those interested:

At the outset, let it be declared that "The Hermit" by T. Lobsang Rampa is a genuine classic of UFO and abduction literature. While that may not have been Rampa's original intent, what he has written not only accurately predicts the future of what would be eventually learned by abduction researchers decades later, but also provides another dimension to the typical abduction narrative that is almost never present: In Rampa's book, the aliens actually SPEAK to the abductee and make him a conscious and active participant in what is happening.
But let us first look at the framework of the story Rampa tells. It begins with a young Buddhist monk's arrival at the cave of another monk who is a hermit greatly advanced in years. The hermit has been expecting the younger priest to visit for more than sixty years, meanwhile enduring deprivations of mind and body that would kill many less faithful to their appointed task. The young monk is to be the repository of knowledge that his elder counterpart has been waiting to impart to him.

The hermit's own story began when he was himself a young Tibetan priest and was taken captive by the Chinese, who falsely believed he was carrying classified information to their enemies. The hermit/priest is tortured as part of his interrogation, and eventually has his eyes gouged out before being thrown on a nearby dung heap to die. Now blinded and barely alive, he makes his escape to the mountains, where he is eventually captured by the aliens and taken to an underground location for indoctrination into the mysteries he is to pass on to the world.

The aliens tell him he has been chosen because he has an exceptional memory that will allow him to vividly remember the details of their message to the world for the rest of his life. At that point, Rampa begins the story of the hermit's abduction experience that, given that it was originally published in 1971, seems absolutely prescient today.

The hermit tells the young monk the entire story in a series of lectures. The hermit was initially placed on an operating-type table with only one pillar in the middle supporting it, one of the most familiar details of the standard abduction scenario. Various devices are connected to his body that seem to serve some kind of medical purpose. At one point, the top of his head is sawed off and a kind of brain surgery performed. There are also moments when he views other worlds on large television screens onboard a ship, as well as a fascinating extended out-of-body experience that teaches him about the slow process of alien-controlled evolution by which mankind came to dwell upon the Earth.

The aliens' message concludes with their many attempts to send religious role models to help keep mankind as much as possible on the straight and narrow. Historical figures such as Moses, Buddha and Christ are shown to be alien creations whose true purpose remains obscured behind the clouds of human superstition.

By now, you may be tempted to say, "But we've heard it all before." Which is precisely the point, it really HAS all been heard before. Whitley Strieber and Betty Andreasson Luca and any number of abductees have had similar things happen. But their stories began in the 1980s, more than a decade after Rampa's book was published in 1971. (Inner Light Publications has enthusiastically reprinted it.) At that point in UFO history, the only other widely read abduction account was John Fuller's "The Interrupted Journey," which told the story of Barney and Betty Hill's 1961 capture and medical examination onboard a UFO.

Rampa has quite simply assembled a narrative report so remarkably consistent with what would be learned in future years that it staggers the imagination and serves as a wonderful bit of prophecy that has been undeniably fulfilled by the abduction research that came later.

The story ends with perhaps one of the most profound scenes ever to grace the pages of a book of this type. Though Rampa is himself deceased, "The Hermit" will live forever as both a spiritual work of sublime depth and as another invaluable glimpse into the crucially important phenomenon of alien abduction, which may one day be the deliverance of life as we "know" it. And for which we will owe T. Lobsang Rampa and others like him a debt of gratitude.

[Andrew]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
btw - thanks to andrew for the link to the interesting book.

I might print it off and try to read it.

Here is an amazon review for those interested:

At the outset, let it be declared that "The Hermit" by T. Lobsang Rampa is a genuine classic of UFO and abduction literature. While that may not have been Rampa's original intent, what he has written not only accurately predicts the future of what would be eventually learned by abduction researchers decades later, but also provides another dimension to the typical abduction narrative that is almost never present: In Rampa's book, the aliens actually SPEAK to the abductee and make him a conscious and active participant in what is happening.
But let us first look at the framework of the story Rampa tells. It begins with a young Buddhist monk's arrival at the cave of another monk who is a hermit greatly advanced in years. The hermit has been expecting the younger priest to visit for more than sixty years, meanwhile enduring deprivations of mind and body that would kill many less faithful to their appointed task. The young monk is to be the repository of knowledge that his elder counterpart has been waiting to impart to him.

The hermit's own story began when he was himself a young Tibetan priest and was taken captive by the Chinese, who falsely believed he was carrying classified information to their enemies. The hermit/priest is tortured as part of his interrogation, and eventually has his eyes gouged out before being thrown on a nearby dung heap to die. Now blinded and barely alive, he makes his escape to the mountains, where he is eventually captured by the aliens and taken to an underground location for indoctrination into the mysteries he is to pass on to the world.

The aliens tell him he has been chosen because he has an exceptional memory that will allow him to vividly remember the details of their message to the world for the rest of his life. At that point, Rampa begins the story of the hermit's abduction experience that, given that it was originally published in 1971, seems absolutely prescient today.

The hermit tells the young monk the entire story in a series of lectures. The hermit was initially placed on an operating-type table with only one pillar in the middle supporting it, one of the most familiar details of the standard abduction scenario. Various devices are connected to his body that seem to serve some kind of medical purpose. At one point, the top of his head is sawed off and a kind of brain surgery performed. There are also moments when he views other worlds on large television screens onboard a ship, as well as a fascinating extended out-of-body experience that teaches him about the slow process of alien-controlled evolution by which mankind came to dwell upon the Earth.

The aliens' message concludes with their many attempts to send religious role models to help keep mankind as much as possible on the straight and narrow. Historical figures such as Moses, Buddha and Christ are shown to be alien creations whose true purpose remains obscured behind the clouds of human superstition.

By now, you may be tempted to say, "But we've heard it all before." Which is precisely the point, it really HAS all been heard before. Whitley Strieber and Betty Andreasson Luca and any number of abductees have had similar things happen. But their stories began in the 1980s, more than a decade after Rampa's book was published in 1971. (Inner Light Publications has enthusiastically reprinted it.) At that point in UFO history, the only other widely read abduction account was John Fuller's "The Interrupted Journey," which told the story of Barney and Betty Hill's 1961 capture and medical examination onboard a UFO.

Rampa has quite simply assembled a narrative report so remarkably consistent with what would be learned in future years that it staggers the imagination and serves as a wonderful bit of prophecy that has been undeniably fulfilled by the abduction research that came later.

The story ends with perhaps one of the most profound scenes ever to grace the pages of a book of this type. Though Rampa is himself deceased, "The Hermit" will live forever as both a spiritual work of sublime depth and as another invaluable glimpse into the crucially important phenomenon of alien abduction, which may one day be the deliverance of life as we "know" it. And for which we will owe T. Lobsang Rampa and others like him a debt of gratitude.

Thanks Calv, I have always been fascinated by T Lobsang Rampa, his books are great, I was first given You Forever when I was 11 years old and still have the book to this day, TBH I think many people today used his teachings and stories as inspiration to write there books and talks.

All his books can be found here for download, if anyone has not read them, then they are missing out IMO. His first book The Third eye gives a wonderful background of life growing up in a Tibetan lamasery.

[davyj0nes]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)
We don't know that for sure. As Jay points out there is a discrepancy on the date (Kali Yuga implies 2442):
Allegedly all part of a cycle that has happened before (and will happen again).
In one shape or form I have no doubt life will go on. We *may* be witness to something quite remarkable.

you're right. it could go either way. were attentions flows, energy flows.

[karelia]

I find this an interesting take on the Enki/Anu/Enil angle:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=s5oY7buN6nE

It kind of ties in with the Sajaha prophecies (a translation to English can be found somewhere on the ATS forum if you google it).

[Calz]

Whoa ... great find karelia!!!

Gave me the shivers

[seko]

Posted by karelia (here)
I find this an interesting take on the Enki/Anu/Enil angle:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=s5oY7buN6nE

It kind of ties in with the Sajaha prophecies (a translation to English can be found somewhere on the ATS forum if you google it).

there's another interesting video after that one

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GrYhAuhbRiM

[Calz]

Thanks seko.

Fascinating!

Neither vid makes mention of Enlil ... and depicts Anu (the father) as Enki's rival. Aside from that pretty much follows what M'lord has suggested.

Speaking of which ... I keep hoping Sid will come swooping in with his cape and shower us with his nuggets.

Well we can only hope. In the meanwhile I appreciate all the effort and research being provided by so many to keep this important thread going.

Anyone highly psychic, telepathic or advanced remote viewers???

Would be interesting if we could get some psychic feeling on the "Enki faction in-coming".

[Calz]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vuoLpbQMQ5A

[seko]

Posted by Calz_Avaretard (here)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vuoLpbQMQ5A

Amazing story, thanks for posting that Calz.

This is so interesting.

[Calz]

This one has a lot of beautiful imagery and photography. I was surprised to see Enki linked to the name "Shiva"??? Aside from that much the same as the last few:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=B96dA16LOeU

[Calz]

Latest from Jay Weidner on Red Ice.

Doesn't go into Aryans this time (at least directly) but a lot of fascinating material with loose connections to this thread.


Jay Weidner - Kubrick's Odyssey & The Brotherhood of Saturn

March 6, 2011

Called by Wired Magazine an "authority on the hermetic and alchemical traditions," and "erudite conspiracy hunter," Jay Weidner is a renowned author, filmmaker and hermetic scholar. Considered to be a "modern-day Indiana Jones" for his ongoing worldwide quests to find clues to mankind's spiritual destiny via ancient societies and artifacts, his body of work offers great insight into the circumstances that have led to the current global crisis. He is the producer of the documentary films, "2012 The Odyssey", its sequel "Timewave 2013" and "Infinity; The Ultimate Trip". Jay joins us to discuss his latest film "Kubrick's Odyssey: Secrets Hidden in the films of Stanley Kubrick". The acclaimed American film director Stanley Kubrick told an important story with all his films and they all connect with each other and communicate a message. The question is if Kubrick was murdered considering what he trying to reveal with his films. We start to examine the film "Eyes Wide Shut" and how it connects with mind control, the elite, satanic, archonic, and demonic forces. We also discuss the Brotherhood of Saturn, the secret space program and Arthur C. Clarke. Topics Discussed: Kubric's Odyssey, Eyes Wide Shut, Operation Monarch, occult, sex-cults, Kubrick murdered, storytelling with films, A.I., pedophilia, Archons, Demons, Lolita, bear symbolism, Jim Garrison, Lee Harvey Oswald, NASA, the real space program, Babalon Bunch, Saturnian Society, JPL, the ringmakers, hexagonal rings on Saturn, Jupiter, Zeus, Saturn, Set, Buzz Aldrin comments on the Monolith Phobos, Lord of the Rings, Iapateus, Sargon, rings of Saturn, time trap and more.


http://www.redicecreations.com/radio...6-jweidner.mp3


*** adding ***


Here is the older interview on Veritas discussing the Aryan Mars material I posted earlier.


Author, filmmaker, and hermetic scholar Jay Weidner discussed his documentary about life-after-death, as well as his research into an ancient group known as the Aryans or the Vril, who migrated to Mars. His film, Infinity: The Ultimate Trip features such people as Dannion Brinkley and Gregg Braden exploring concepts of the afterlife and reincarnation. Weidner said he made the film to help people not be afraid to die, and to no longer be afraid to live their lives freely. "Once we realize that there's no such thing as death, then I think we're going to be liberated from the political and social environment that we've been thrust into," he said. In the film, Brinkley reported that the government has investigated near-death experiences but has refused to tell the public what they've found, because it's in their interests to control the populace through fear.

Secrets are going to come undone, "and one of the main secrets of all is that we are hyperdimensional beings...and that energies do not die, they only transform themselves," Weidner declared. In his study of the ancient Sanskrit texts called the Puranas, he learned that humanity has been on Earth for as long as a million years, and repeats four different cycles. Our current age, they predicted, will end in the year 2442 with coronal mass ejections wiping out life as we know it.

According to Weidner's interpretation of the Puranas, during one of the previous cycles when solar ejections occurred, a group of Earthlings were able to escape to Mars and live there safely underground. When they returned to Earth, their appearance had changed to tall, pale-colored beings, who became known as the Ayrans or the Vril, he said, adding that they're secretly ruling the planet. He also talked about L. Austine Waddell's research into the Aryans, and director Stanley Kubrick, whom he believed was trying to reveal knowledge of secret ruling societies, in his films like Eyes Wide Shut, and an abandoned project called The Aryan Papers.


http://www.veritasshow.com/guests/20...8-jweidner.php


Lastly the newest interview on Veritas. Similar to Red Ice (although it does touch on the Aryans going off planet leaving "the managers" rockefeller/rothschilds essentially left in the same boat we are ... except they have the DUMBS of course). Of interest he disputes Hoagland on the "glass" walls etc on the moon by explaining what it really is from Kubrick's set doing the fake lunar photo shoot.


http://www.veritasshow.com/guests/20...3-jweidner.php


(note - both Veritas interviews are "part ones" of the guest variety - need to be a member for the second part - well worth the small fee in my opinion. Wish I could share 2nd part cuz it rocks!)