The Idiots Guide to Ascension

[yiolas]

How does one wade through all of this information?

2012, The Great Shift, Planet –X, Ascension, the Mayan long count, the short count, pole shift, galactic alignment, coronal mass ejections, good et’s , bad et’s , Galactic Federation, Galactic Council, Ashayana Deane, The Guardians, Drunvalo Melchizedek's, Anunnaki, George Kavasilas, Hopi prophesy, Mayan Prophesy, Nostradamus, Alex Collier, the Andromedans, the Sirans, the Pleidians, earth changes, exopolitics, illuminati ………. the list goes on ………….sorry if I left some out.

We should not need encyclopedias of information, charts, techniques and finely tuned Merkabah vehicles to assist us in riding the wave of ascension. My intuition tells me that it is a lot simpler. That all that is required is to become more human, as in, humane to each other and to our environment in general. My gut tells me that as long as we stand in LOVE and not fear that we will naturally ride the wave of ascension.

Any brief and simple input is welcome to this ‘Idiots Guide to Ascension”

[Wood]

I agree with you yiolas
I think we just need to become more loving, more responsible of our actions and to raise our consciousness through meditation (just looking into ourselves, no fancy techniques needed). No fears, no worries, no judgements. I think the game is already over.

The thread title reminds me of a great movie (though maybe weird for some): 'The Idiots' by Lars Von Trier.

[kriya]

Know yourself!

That's it.

Love,

Kriya

[Majorion]

Posted by yiolas (here)
How does one wade through all of this information?

2012, The Great Shift, Planet –X, Ascension, the Mayan long count, the short count, pole shift, galactic alignment, coronal mass ejections, good et’s , bad et’s , Galactic Federation, Galactic Council, Ashayana Deane, The Guardians, Drunvalo Melchizedek's, Anunnaki, George Kavasilas, Hopi prophesy, Mayan Prophesy, Nostradamus, Alex Collier, the Andromedans, the Sirans, the Pleidians, earth changes, exopolitics, illuminati …

You take it all with a grain of salt...

Hope that answers your question.

[greybeard]

Eckhart Tolle has sold many millions of books "A New Earth" for one.
"The Power of Now" for another.
He appeared on the Oprah Winfrey show ten consecutive weeks discussing chapter by chapter. over 5 Milion people down loaded the free videos.
Important thing is this happened because millions of ordinary people wanted it to happen, they bought the books.

No one has even mentioned this on Avalon that I know of.

He has consistently said for years that consciousness is rising, that we are on the verge of the biggest step forward in the evolution of man kind since we left the ocean.
NOW that is big news.
How come we want to run after UFO's, techniques, drama, you name it?
Eckhart is enlightened, he knows.
He has not mentioned the magical round about of pop spirituality - new age. Ascension, UFO's -- none of it, just pure practical spirituality.

He has also said we cant make it happen, that is the shift in consciousness, we can only get in the way by trying to make it come about. it is happening because the totality wants it to happen.

We will be ok, enjoy the ride though it will get rough at times.

Glad you started the thread Yiolas, time for some common sense.

Chris

[shiva777]

an idiots guide to understanding the Limited (but very useful,up to a point)teachings of Tolle,Hawkins and many more

A Lesson of Boundaries and Polarity -Revist- Egypt 1 Year, 3 Months ago
Dear Family,

There is a stunning crossroads of change upon us shifting this planet. Much will reveal and continue to unravel for many of us, and including this group. I feel this necessary to share to begin an unraveling dialogue. I have had a recent lesson of respecting my own boundaries as a human being.

Let’s talk a moment why understanding polarity issues is a huge step towards spiritual maturity and having inner integrity with your source light. I hope to clarify this topic to a better understanding. This will help to improve personal energetic discernment with this utilized as a basic foundational understanding.

God Source projects creation by polarizing within itself. It projects consciousness into smaller or separate units. At the different levels of dimension, planets, human beings bodies all the way into the smallest particles. All these levels are interactive with each other and the consciousness flows back into the levels of unity with the Source. We would not regard polarity as something that is “ negative” if we understood it is fundamentally inherent in all of creation, it is the natural creative process – polarization and integration.

Since that we deal with issues of polarity every day, how do we best effectively deal with the situation? Polarity are issues of separation from ourselves or Source, and separation from others that may indeed create ego issues of conflict. To be effective we must generally agree that we must first find that place of inner light, unity and integrity within ourselves. We must self integrate into our Source consciousness, this is our personal level of responsibility to spiritual maturity. This is a first point of agreement that is a fundamental block of actualizing your inner integrity to be aligned to God/ Source.

So when we have a problem or issue that comes up in our daily life… do we deny the problem? Do we detach from it as a state of reality by calling it an Illusion? Or do we understand the problem in a larger context of how “polarity” works so that we can effectively deal with it?

Let us say you are driving your car and you get a flat tire. How do you deal with this? You could say it is all illusion and that this is really not happening and try to fix your tire with your mind. Or you can face the problem, change the tire ( call road service!) and resume your driving.

We could say in a practical context if we deny the problem we also deny the solution. When we try to un-create the problem through denying it exists we only allow the problem to go unresolved. When we actually face the problem, bring attention to it, we are not reinforcing the problem we are facing it. The problem already has presented itself to you and its already “ there”. To be effective engaging with the problem is generally a positive strategy in contract to denial. Regarding problems as illusions does not necessarily resolve the problem.

Now take this practical example into the WORLD scenario and its various conflicts. It is absolutely certain we all would like to “ see” something else happening, a beautiful paradise of everyone’s creative expression and total freedom from debt or other levels of slavery. We would like to not know there are unpleasant things happening around us and we may even want to get away from it all and go back “home”. However there is a part of US ( The One) a part of creation that is really blocked down here. There is a part of US that is really suffering. There is a part of us impacted and affected, even sometimes trapped by the dramas that play out in the world, in our human family, with our loved ones and our personal circle of friends and community . We cannot afford to ignore the fact. Knowledge or awareness is not in itself “ separation”. We can be in our integrity, aligned to our inner source and be very much aware of what is actually going on around us. Bringing attention to this awareness and knowing about it does not promote separation or polarity thinking. It is in how we deal with it.

If we focus on problems in the context of solutions it removes the blockage created by polarity issues. Greater Knowledge should not motivate fear in you but be understood as a base for effective action. Knowledge and accurate assessment is the basis to return you back to the stepping stones to resolve the issue/problem back into integrity. When you detach or deny the issue from existence you separate the problem from a solution. If we can come into a place of integrity ( self sourcing and energetic containment as supported with the 12 D exercise) we can face problems and embrace and bring resolution as effectively as we can.

We all know and respect the beautiful humans who are “ beyond polarity”. Before we can regard ourselves as beyond polarity we need to address the following inner questions.
Can I consciously integrate my whole being, physical body included back into the Source here and now? Can I ascend through the dimensional structure of creation, the holographic reality right now? Am I completely unaffected by the world events, free from money, free from seeing wars and genocide and starving peoples? Do All I see is a created paradise around me? If you cannot do these things, you are not beyond polarity. Until that time there is a part of you , a part of US and the collective One that is trapped in polarity from various distortions that have transpired in the natural processes of creation. You have to ask yourself if you can afford to deny or be ignorant of these things that are happening during this important cycle of time.

Yes our higher parts of identity, some of them are beyond polarity. It is our lower parts of identity, such as our human-ness that need our attention. It is our body consciousness as a human being that is in the most need of rehabilitation and healing. If we detach from the physical realities of our body and what is actually happening on the planet ( and the agendas that we are all enmeshed and a part of) we risk losing a valuable part of our human-ness, many levels of that identity.

It is not about judgment anymore. It is not about blaming or assigning value of good or bad anymore. It is about being REAL and being effective from being informed. We have to get clear about what is working and not working so we can bring ourselves back into integrity with our God Source as we can.

The core of our own energetic sustainability, our ability to effectively take responsibility for ourselves and our evolutionary direction hinges exactly on this knowledge of polarity.

The core of our ability to maintain a state of Oneness with each other depends on our level of personal energetic sustainability as it achieves integrity with your inner source light. If you do not have inner integrity you will look to depend on someone outside of you, or feed off of something else externally. When you feed off of someone else or something , you then become parasitic and many times are intruding on the energetic boundaries of another human beings right to exist.

If you do not respect each others' boundaries and own your own stuff, you will be unable to create mutuality or effective solutions. If others need to make you wrong, recognize the ego game and refrain from engaging. You do not have to justify your existence to others and they do not have to justify their existence to you. Am I trying to make someone wrong? Is someone trying to make me wrong? Are we respecting each other's boundaries and right to be? Can I engage this with effective action ?

In repeating my core message that I fundamentally attempt to communicate in all my expressions I offer to this group:

Command your Space, no matter what.

Claim your Sovereignty.

Claim and own your Freedom.

KNOW YOU ARE GOD.

Nothing can or will possess you or take this away from you when you know yourself as the truth. Please note: although no board code and smiley buttons are shown, they are still usable.
lisarenee

[Kra]

yiolas don't you think the "idiots" should first educate themselves in order to understand this process? and if so don't they become... less "idiots" after they are educated? in my opinion "idiots" is a strong word in this context and should be replaced with something more lite, like "less educated humans ". The Less Educated Humans Guide to Ascension.

[3(C)+me]

Yes, yes, yes very good someone thought of this lots of BS to get through....

[3(C)+me]

I actual was asking wood by what he meant by

The game is over...

Can you say more about that please...
I am curious...

[yiolas]

Posted by Kra (here)
yiolas don't you think the "idiots" should first educate themselves in order to understand this process? and if so don't they become... less "idiots" after they are educated? in my opinion "idiots" is a strong word in this context and should be replaced with something more lite, like "less educated humans ". The Less Educated Humans Guide to Ascension.

Your point Kra is taken. Nevertheless, my whole premise is that even the more educated of us in esoteric knowledge and cutting edge new age ascension techniques might benefit from getting back to the basics. The term "Idiot" is not meant to be derogatory, but rather implies "simplicity"

[HORIZONS]

Posted by shiva777 (here)
an idiots guide to understanding the Limited (but very useful,up to a point)teachings of Tolle,Hawkins and many more

A Lesson of Boundaries and Polarity -Revist- Egypt 1 Year, 3 Months ago
Dear Family,

There is a stunning crossroads of change upon us shifting this planet. Much will reveal and continue to unravel for many of us, and including this group. I feel this necessary to share to begin an unraveling dialogue. I have had a recent lesson of respecting my own boundaries as a human being.

Let’s talk a moment why understanding polarity issues is a huge step towards spiritual maturity and having inner integrity with your source light. I hope to clarify this topic to a better understanding. This will help to improve personal energetic discernment with this utilized as a basic foundational understanding.

God Source projects creation by polarizing within itself. It projects consciousness into smaller or separate units. At the different levels of dimension, planets, human beings bodies all the way into the smallest particles. All these levels are interactive with each other and the consciousness flows back into the levels of unity with the Source. We would not regard polarity as something that is “ negative” if we understood it is fundamentally inherent in all of creation, it is the natural creative process – polarization and integration.

Since that we deal with issues of polarity every day, how do we best effectively deal with the situation? Polarity are issues of separation from ourselves or Source, and separation from others that may indeed create ego issues of conflict. To be effective we must generally agree that we must first find that place of inner light, unity and integrity within ourselves. We must self integrate into our Source consciousness, this is our personal level of responsibility to spiritual maturity. This is a first point of agreement that is a fundamental block of actualizing your inner integrity to be aligned to God/ Source.

So when we have a problem or issue that comes up in our daily life… do we deny the problem? Do we detach from it as a state of reality by calling it an Illusion? Or do we understand the problem in a larger context of how “polarity” works so that we can effectively deal with it?

Let us say you are driving your car and you get a flat tire. How do you deal with this? You could say it is all illusion and that this is really not happening and try to fix your tire with your mind. Or you can face the problem, change the tire ( call road service!) and resume your driving.

We could say in a practical context if we deny the problem we also deny the solution. When we try to un-create the problem through denying it exists we only allow the problem to go unresolved. When we actually face the problem, bring attention to it, we are not reinforcing the problem we are facing it. The problem already has presented itself to you and its already “ there”. To be effective engaging with the problem is generally a positive strategy in contract to denial. Regarding problems as illusions does not necessarily resolve the problem.

Now take this practical example into the WORLD scenario and its various conflicts. It is absolutely certain we all would like to “ see” something else happening, a beautiful paradise of everyone’s creative expression and total freedom from debt or other levels of slavery. We would like to not know there are unpleasant things happening around us and we may even want to get away from it all and go back “home”. However there is a part of US ( The One) a part of creation that is really blocked down here. There is a part of US that is really suffering. There is a part of us impacted and affected, even sometimes trapped by the dramas that play out in the world, in our human family, with our loved ones and our personal circle of friends and community . We cannot afford to ignore the fact. Knowledge or awareness is not in itself “ separation”. We can be in our integrity, aligned to our inner source and be very much aware of what is actually going on around us. Bringing attention to this awareness and knowing about it does not promote separation or polarity thinking. It is in how we deal with it.

If we focus on problems in the context of solutions it removes the blockage created by polarity issues. Greater Knowledge should not motivate fear in you but be understood as a base for effective action. Knowledge and accurate assessment is the basis to return you back to the stepping stones to resolve the issue/problem back into integrity. When you detach or deny the issue from existence you separate the problem from a solution. If we can come into a place of integrity ( self sourcing and energetic containment as supported with the 12 D exercise) we can face problems and embrace and bring resolution as effectively as we can.

We all know and respect the beautiful humans who are “ beyond polarity”. Before we can regard ourselves as beyond polarity we need to address the following inner questions.
Can I consciously integrate my whole being, physical body included back into the Source here and now? Can I ascend through the dimensional structure of creation, the holographic reality right now? Am I completely unaffected by the world events, free from money, free from seeing wars and genocide and starving peoples? Do All I see is a created paradise around me? If you cannot do these things, you are not beyond polarity. Until that time there is a part of you , a part of US and the collective One that is trapped in polarity from various distortions that have transpired in the natural processes of creation. You have to ask yourself if you can afford to deny or be ignorant of these things that are happening during this important cycle of time.

Yes our higher parts of identity, some of them are beyond polarity. It is our lower parts of identity, such as our human-ness that need our attention. It is our body consciousness as a human being that is in the most need of rehabilitation and healing. If we detach from the physical realities of our body and what is actually happening on the planet ( and the agendas that we are all enmeshed and a part of) we risk losing a valuable part of our human-ness, many levels of that identity.

It is not about judgment anymore. It is not about blaming or assigning value of good or bad anymore. It is about being REAL and being effective from being informed. We have to get clear about what is working and not working so we can bring ourselves back into integrity with our God Source as we can.

The core of our own energetic sustainability, our ability to effectively take responsibility for ourselves and our evolutionary direction hinges exactly on this knowledge of polarity.

The core of our ability to maintain a state of Oneness with each other depends on our level of personal energetic sustainability as it achieves integrity with your inner source light. If you do not have inner integrity you will look to depend on someone outside of you, or feed off of something else externally. When you feed off of someone else or something , you then become parasitic and many times are intruding on the energetic boundaries of another human beings right to exist.

If you do not respect each others' boundaries and own your own stuff, you will be unable to create mutuality or effective solutions. If others need to make you wrong, recognize the ego game and refrain from engaging. You do not have to justify your existence to others and they do not have to justify their existence to you. Am I trying to make someone wrong? Is someone trying to make me wrong? Are we respecting each other's boundaries and right to be? Can I engage this with effective action ?

In repeating my core message that I fundamentally attempt to communicate in all my expressions I offer to this group:

Command your Space, no matter what.

Claim your Sovereignty.

Claim and own your Freedom.

KNOW YOU ARE GOD.

Nothing can or will possess you or take this away from you when you know yourself as the truth. Please note: although no board code and smiley buttons are shown, they are still usable.
lisarenee

very thought provoking - I appreciate your insights.

[shiva777]

when Love and light are combined with WISDOM then TRUE freedom will be achieved,,,the quasi-ascended states of almost all self proclaimed "awakened ones" are a result of entering "bubbles" of experience that seem like freedom but are NOT...we are in a time now where we can transcend those "bubbles" and teachings and where true WISDOM can be combined with Love and Light to reach TRUE awakening...that's what is different5 between this age and previous ones...many nowrecognise the false premise that our solar system,moon and physical bodies are in natural states...thereby not getting stuck in the unnatural "awakened" realms that most teachers try to lead people in to...mostly unknowingly

Watch Ash Deanes vids for an explanation of such issues....many are now resonating with these deeper truths,others aren't ready...

[greybeard]

Hi again Yiola
This is a definition of the enlightened state.
In the enlightened state all duality, all ignorance falls away, its timeless eternal, non locality, no birth no death, omnipotent, omnipresent. .
When all belief systems, all dogma all concepts are stripped away all that remains is God.
That is realizing the presence of God within.
That Presence is within every single soul waiting to be discovered-- no secrets, takes persistence.


I think logic is essential in ploughing through all the info.

I look at facts as best I can

We are an evolutionary species
We are evolving rapidly at this time
There is a state called enlightenment.

not confirmed. Ascension, it may or may not happen.

Look again at the aspects of enlightenment, is that not similar to the claims made about non existent as yet Ascension?

Now common sense says that if you want to learn about something learn from some one who has done it, achieved it is successful.
Fair enough enlightenment is not something done, it as actually some thing undone, the letting go of all that is not God.

So here we have a whole load of theories and methods coming from people who are not there, haven't done it have not Ascended.
No one has>
On the other hand free advice has always been here regarding enlightenment from those in that state.

Ascension higher than enlightenment?
More than omni-presence more than omni-potent?
More than knowing experientially, subjectively, Oneness with God?

Just use logic.
You cant compare a real state of enlightenment with hypothetical Ascension.
All these words from pretenders to be God.
Did we make ourselves?
After enlightenment one can say one is God but till then its not true, its a potential.
We are all waves of the Divine ocean.
I can truthfully say I am a wave of the ocean but I cant say I am the ocean.
The fully enlightened can say I am the ocean.
The Caterpillar is not the butterfly.
Not saying Im right but the enlightened ones know

What do they know?

We are moving forward rapidly but the end result is not known.
My feeling is that God set it up for evolution to evolve with an overall plan but lets consciousness do what it does.
So no one knows for sure how the end result will happen but it is sure that it will self align to the will and overall plan of God

Regards Chris

[shiva777]

again,Greybeard,you don't get it...you are stuck in the limited teachings that also don't get it...most of those teachi9ngs are very useful to a point however...this is something that can not be explained to someone who isn't at the level where they can percieve it...reincarnation is NOT a natural process,it is a result of genetic manipulation from negative ET groups,astrological influences are not natural they are a result of manipulated planetary bodies designed to trap us...and a million more issues that your "ascended ones" didn't understand and were thus lead to states that are no more than bubbles of "freedom" that are created from these distorted dimensional spaces....and you won't get that either...you also don't seem to get that AD and I and many others agree with a lot of the ancient teaching.Tolle etc but we also see and FEEL their limitations and distortions

[Majorion]

Posted by shiva777 (here)
many are now resonating with these deeper truths,others aren't ready...

I wouldn't say others aren't ready, they are simply 'more cautious'.

There are two kinds of open-mindedness, the kind where you can believe in something that very few others believe, and then there is an even more important kind, an open-mindedness to accept that many people in this world are selfish, dishonest, and with an agenda that is not in your best interest.

[Kulapops]

Here's my take on this Yiolas...

1: Truth is simple. If you need a page to describe it, it's a modification of a truth, or based on truth. If it's particularly long and indescribable.. it's a Bedtime Story TM (All right's Kulapops )

2: The Tao that can be described is not the Tao. Think on this. That says a lot about this forum and people's beliefs here. I personally don't think anyone can tell you what 'it' 'is' (whatever it is) - that's the whole point.

3: However.. given point 2, here's my take (taken from Greybeard's rather nice Uplifting Energy thread)

A parable from K...

I think too that perhaps some of us feel a wave of love that is rising.

We're like yachts tied up in a harbour, and so as the tide is coming in, and the water line rises, we feel lifted.

We look at boats further into the harbour, where the water hasn't reached yet, and we say..

'A wave is coming!'

And our mooring ropes lift as we feel the love passing under and through us. No longer concerned with the sand that we lay on, we only feel different.

More free, moveable, lighter, bouyant. It's our natural reaction to talk to the boats around us. We want all the boats in the harbour to know that the tide is coming in.

Because this means that soon, we may go sailing.

Now , I realise that I don't need to worry about telling the other boats.

The tide is coming in...

...and those further in the harbour, currently enjoying the sand,

will know soon enough.

K

[paul1972]

"The Idiots Guide to Ascension "

If anyone is writing this book I would suggest this:

KISS (keep it simple stupid)

[Bill Ryan]

I would like to make a crystal clear, unambiguous, definitive statement.

This assertion...

Posted by shiva777 (here)
reincarnation is NOT a natural process,it is a result of genetic manipulation from negative ET groups

...is totally false.

Very best to all, Bill

[Celine]

Simplicity is a great compass for the truth. IMHO

lol, Bill...well said i agree completely.

[greybeard]

Posted by shiva777 (here)
again,Greybeard,you don't get it...you are stuck in the limited teachings that also don't get it...most of those teachi9ngs are very useful to a point however...this is something that can not be explained to someone who isn't at the level where they can percieve it...reincarnation is NOT a natural process,it is a result of genetic manipulation from negative ET groups,astrological influences are not natural they are a result of manipulated planetary bodies designed to trap us...and a million more issues that your "ascended ones" didn't understand and were thus lead to states that are no more than bubbles of "freedom" that are created from these distorted dimensional spaces....and you won't get that either...you also don't seem to get that AD and I and many others agree with a lot of the ancient teaching.Tolle etc but we also see and FEEL their limitations and distortions

Shiva with respect you dont know me.
You dont know my level of consciousness.
We are all different.
My path is enlightenment but even that notion has to be let go of.

"When you demand nothing of the world, nor of God, when you want nothing, seek nothing, expect nothing, then the supreme state will come to you uninvited and unexpected."

Sri Nisargadatta Maharaj


Supreme state is supreme state.
I am not concerned whether I Ascend or not.
Death I do not fear.
Enlightened ones do not reincarnate that is the point of enlightenment.
There has been too much synchronism in my life for me to deny that God has intervened on numerous occasions to save my life.
Teachers have arrived.
I have had breakfast with Eckhart Tolle. It just happened unplanned.
I have spent time with other enlightened teachers, I have been guided every step of the way, events have happened that I could not have made happen.
I am not special in any way, we are all equal.
Those who love God will be looked after regardless of their knowledge or lack of it.

I dont get AD teachings and neither does Bill Ryan and quite a few others so I am in good company. He called the teachings rubbish.
Now you think otherwise, thats fine.
If it works for you it works. I dont have a problem with that.
You like vanilla, I like chocolate. thats ok.
Where I did have a problem was some of DH people knocking The Course in Miracles and virtually everything else that moves. the enemy seen in everything.
Paranoid.
If some one finds something of value fine but it does not reflect well on a teaching where supporters are seen to promote negativity and imply that its our way or you wont make it, you wont Ascend.
One fact we all die, leave this body. Im happy with that
We are unlikely to agree Shiva777 and that ok with me and genuinely I wish you well with your chosen teacher.
Chris