The Idiots Guide to Ascension

[shiva777]

I would like to make a crystal clear, unambiguous, definitive statement.

This assertion...


Originally Posted by shiva777
reincarnation is NOT a natural process,it is a result of genetic manipulation from negative ET groups
...is totally false.

Very best to all, Bill

again "I would like to make a crystal clear, unambiguous, definitive statement. "

please explain how that is crystal clear and unambiguous Bill...could it just be a belief system of yours...can you see the inorganic cord that goes out from your naval connecting to the 4D which is where humans spirit has been channeled to go after death...no?..can you se the human template in it's pure form...or are you just being right brained

[Celine]

my mind does not need to understand..

my heart does.


i am not inferior nor" not ready to accept the truth"

i serve beauty love and passion... those are the only tools i bring with me on my road to ascension.

Teachers on my path have guided me towards my destiny..

i thank ALL of them.

Nothing deanne..or any one else changes that.

How was breakfast greybeard?

[greybeard]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
I would like to make a crystal clear, unambiguous, definitive statement.

This assertion...



...is totally false.

Very best to all, Bill

Bill Ryan
I appreciate you posting wherever you feel it is necessary.
I know you are busy and let us get on with what we do.
I think it is good that you do comment when you see something that is just not true.
I think we are very fortunate to have this forum to share what believe to be so.
It is a community for the uplifting and benefit of all.
On the whole it works very well.
Much respect to you
Chris

[Panta rhei]

Posted by paul1972 (here)
"The Idiots Guide to Ascension "

If anyone is writing this book I would suggest this:

KISS (keep it simple stupid)

Nice, and subhead "Ascension for Dummies"

[greybeard]

Posted by céline (here)
my mind does not need to understand..

my heart does.


i am not inferior nor" not ready to accept the truth"

i serve beauty love and passion... those are the only tools i bring with me on my road to ascension.

Teachers on my path have guided me towards my destiny..

i thank ALL of them.

Nothing deanne..or any one else changes that.

How was breakfast greybeard?

Im with you Celine.
Love it is.
Its bed time now here.

"The original Krishna said "Even those who run in the wrong direction are mine"

So we are all safe and sound.

[frank samuel]

As a young man I thought I had all the answers since I spend most of my free time in the library studying philosophy and religion. I walk around with a bunch of books proud of myself because I thought I found the answers. As I got older I kept falling flat on my face and the more I learn the less I knew. Looking at the external world for your answers will never work because the answers do not come from books, persons, philosophies and religions. Your answers are found within yourself, your soul , your heart is all you need to gain understanding , guidance, inspiration and the power of love to be at peace even in times of turmoil. Thus the title of the thread is very appropriate, the idiots guide to ascension because by using my intellect the more I learn the less I know , by using my heart I begin to unlock the secrets bury withing my consciousness that connects me to the world within beyond this temporal 3D illusion.

Many many blessings to all....

[RedeZra]

imagine the heart as a rose

it begins as a bud

before it blooms

can you force a rose

no but you can provide good soil sun and water

what am I talking about lol


I will shout to God when lost at sea

[shiva777]

well I guess I've never been impressed by Bill or Kerry as much as others here so I don't give them any particular authority...let's just say that from what I get they both think it is a very real possibility that ET's messed with our genetics and shut down our DNA...now if that is taken to be the case then it is obvious that our reincarnational identity is not our NATURAL human blueprint,it is a result of our DNA being shut down to 2 strands and the manipulations implanted in to 3d humans and the inorganic matrix we exist in...so saying anything like Bill did :\"crystal clear,definitive" in terms of reincarnation being Natural is far from clear or even logical...

again,I see why this info is so confronting to people as their higher aspects recognise the truth in it,if they didn't why would they make such a big deal of it...no one here is sayingt love and light are NOT necessary,we are saying a good dose of Wisdom willo guide that love and light to God's will,not to the Will of the controllers and their false "gods"

[greybeard]

Respectfully Shiva777.
That would possibly be so if were were the body.
Its just this seasons vehicle. If we come back its a different body.
Shiva said "From time to time I reincarnate" if the human body is good enough as it is for Shiva one of the highest souls ever to grace this planet then its good enough for this soul its only temporary.

The whole inference seems to be that every Avatar every Sage got most of it wrong and that Includes Krishna the Buddha and of course Christ. Maybe God is in error too. Seems He cant correct the work done on the human body by aliens. We are not the body we are formless.
Chris

[RedeZra]

hehe I don't even believe in aliens

does that make me a fruit lol

ah the times they are a-changing

[shiva777]

again Greybeard,you don't get it....you aren't Greybeard either according to your post..so why are you so identified with what Greybeard believes to be true....your Body,mind and spirit are ONE,there is no seperation and no need to deny them...try not to fall in to escapism...the polarity post in the "spirituality" section may help you to understand

Shiva was misunderstood and distorted by those who chose to make him a 9th Dimensional God ,like they did with Krishna and the other Hindu "gods"..the hINDU RELIGION WAS CORRUPTED BY GALACTIC BEINGS(9d AND BELOW)...another distortion just like the ones they did with Jesus...lots of TRUTH and then some subtle distortions...no truely enlightened being wants to be worshipped,even as a messenger

[illuminate]

Posted by shiva777 (here)
again,Greybeard,you don't get it...you are stuck in the limited teachings that also don't get it...most of those teachi9ngs are very useful to a point however...this is something that can not be explained to someone who isn't at the level where they can percieve it...reincarnation is NOT a natural process,it is a result of genetic manipulation from negative ET groups,astrological influences are not natural they are a result of manipulated planetary bodies designed to trap us...and a million more issues that your "ascended ones" didn't understand and were thus lead to states that are no more than bubbles of "freedom" that are created from these distorted dimensional spaces....and you won't get that either...you also don't seem to get that AD and I and many others agree with a lot of the ancient teaching.Tolle etc but we also see and FEEL their limitations and distortions

I have watched the AD videos, many times, with a very open mind...
I don't feel that I'm not ready or that I'm not wise enough or I'm not at the right level...
it just doesn't resonate with me, at all.
Are you trying to explain yourself or convince others you are right?

IMO leaders are only needed until we learn to become one ourselves.

With Love.

[skyflower]

I believe that everything is shown to us for a purpose. Even "false" teachings carry with them a lesson for all of us. It helps us hone in our own direction, and act as catalysts to higher ground.

TRUTH does not need to be defended. It stands firmly on its own. It will stand when all shall come to pass.

I think everyone will agree that we are all at different levels of spiritual maturity, and that everyone should be given their own chance to discover a greater piece of the ONE TRUTH for themselves.

I now leave you with a quote from a good teacher:

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense."
Buddha

[3(C)+me]

The Idiots guide to .....No the newly awaken guide to raising your frequency
1. LOVE YOURSELF TOTALLY
2. TALK TO YOUR BODY TELLING IT HOW YOU LOVE AND VALUE IT.
3 CULTIVATE BEAUTY IN YOU LIFE. SEE CELINES POST #22
4. EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO ASCENT IS WERE YOU ARE SITTING
SEE FRANK SAMUAL POST #26

All you old timers feel free to add to the wisdom.....

[greybeard]

Posted by shiva777 (here)
again Greybeard,you don't get it....you aren't Greybeard either according to your post..so why are you so identified with what Greybeard believes to be true....your Body,mind and spirit are ONE,there is no seperation and no need to deny them...try not to fall in to escapism...the polarity post in the "spirituality" section may help you to understand

Shiva was misunderstood and distorted by those who chose to make him a 9th Dimensional God ,like they did with Krishna and the other Hindu "gods"..the hINDU RELIGION WAS CORRUPTED BY GALACTIC BEINGS(9d AND BELOW)...another distortion just like the ones they did with Jesus...lots of TRUTH and then some subtle distortions...no truely enlightened being wants to be worshipped,even as a messenger

There is no "it" to get Shiva 777. Getting it is outside of me. I am it. "I am That" as the famous book says (Nasargadatta)
This body responds to the name Greybeard here. I am aware of what Grey is doing. I am the subject, the body the object.
I find him (Greybeard) amusing most of the time and good company.
You are right about messengers not wanting to be worshiped. I'm sure that if Jesus came back he would be horrified that they made a religion out of him.
Jesus pointed the The Father all of the time. Of myself I do nothing it's the father within who is the doer. Then The Father and I are one.
I dont follow any one, no head above mine, however the guidance has been virtually the same from every teacher.
So many over thousands of years saying the same thing.
You seem to be following a single teaching, not confirmed by other earthly beings, coming from one person who is unenlightened.
Enlightenment means you are free from the cycle of birth and death. Jesus has not come back as yet -- we might have Christ consciousness as the next stage.
Who knows? I dont
You say Galatic beings corrupted teachings corrupted DNA yet you want to take a channeled message from ET's as gospel.
Would seem that Aliens are not to be trusted.
You trust this when Bill who has been around a long time says its rubbish.
Krisna777 trust who you will, I trust God non other.

Regards to you
Chris

[BMJ]

Hi Everyone,
I agree with Yiolas initial post & skyflower complete.

I say this which is my own opinion but each to their own.

I think it will be allot simpler process to ascend or find heaven be closer to god than all of these works put forward by these new age guru's.

They all seem to be selling a new religion:
- and like the catholic church you need to get closer to god or ascension by performing and studying these rituals / procedures / methods what every you want to call them.
- they expect you to yet again have blind faith in what they say to be true. How do I know A.Deanne. or George.K. are communicating with the good guys or the bad guys. Does anyone have any solid evidence?
- A.Deanne. has a publishing house associated with here teachings, that is a business with overheads to pay, hence she needs to keep the sales going to keep the money coming in. So I need to buy her material before 21/12/12, otherwise I'll be stuck here.

I think if we are meant to ascend on a personal basis we will. If not so be it I'll enjoy my time here until I pass away, and try again some other place.

If you seek to ascend or be closer to god, try paying it forward by:
- Allow that pushy driver in the outside lane next to you to merge ahead of you in your lane;
- Offer your seat to the pregnant lady standing on the bus for whom no one else seem to want to get up for;
- Help that old man that is having a hard time carrying his groceries to his car, by offering to take it for him;
- Offer a smile to the child in the pram that is smiling back at you;
- Buy that homeless, person you pass every day on your way to work and ignore, a McDonalds meal. etc.

Help other without expect anything in return, paying it forward and you will feel great, and you will be making this world a better place at the same time.
Set the example and others will follow, there is a flow on affect. I have tried this and it works.

And if every body did their small part the snow ball would turn into a avalanche which would result in a heaven on earth, there would be no need to go else were. Also with your selfless acts are you not moulding your person into a god like being, that is bringing yourself closer to god?

[Beth]

I was planting in the garden today and took a rest on the chair and stared at the leaves bristling in the wind. I thought to myself, I wish I were those leaves, then thought to myself, I AM. That's ascension in my opinion, seeing ourselves in every little thing.

[Anchor]

The title is loaded. We are not idiots for heavens sake! We are fledgling Gods! Knowing yourself to be that, is key.

Thus, there are no "idiots" guides to ascension - it is a complete oxymoron.

I think we should not let our inbred and programmed-in, self-deprecating tendancies get taken too far - people are getting so that they are frightened of even appearing like they know anything and pretend to be stupid, I see this all the time at work - people keeping thier heads down. I am sure this is not the way

Now if you had replaced "idiots" with "simplified" then I would not have had to kick off this rant

John..

[Beth]

Posted by shiva777 (here)
again,Greybeard,you don't get it...you are stuck in the limited teachings that also don't get it...most of those teachi9ngs are very useful to a point however...this is something that can not be explained to someone who isn't at the level where they can percieve it...

Well hells bells Shiva, not sure why you bother us minions since you are at such a high level.

[lunaflare]

lovely yaya. you are also the wind...