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    Quote Posted by lunaflare (here)
    lovely yaya. you are also the wind...
    Thank you luna, I do pass wind often, not everyone is pleased with it though!

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    If you seek to ascend or be closer to god, try paying it forward by:
    - Allow that pushy driver in the outside lane next to you to merge ahead of you in your lane;
    - Offer your seat to the pregnant lady standing on the bus for whom no one else seem to want to get up for;
    - Help that old man that is having a hard time carrying his groceries to his car, by offering to take it for him;
    - Offer a smile to the child in the pram that is smiling back at you;
    - Buy that homeless, person you pass every day on your way to work and ignore, a McDonalds meal. etc.


    BMJ these simple things you have mention here are the difference between one who is connected to all and one that is disconnected thinking that my belief will make the difference, silent action of love speak louder than a million pages of the so call truth. It is not my words that have life but every beat of my heart as it connects in love and compassion for everything that surrounds me. This very moment this very second my selfless actions can change my world if only for a moment , the deed coming from our hearts makes all the difference and in that moment you know you are indeed full of life, joy, love, compassion. There's no where I rather be than right here right now taking advantage of every single second to make a difference in my world, for we are just a reflection in the mirror of one another.

    Many many blessings to all...

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    Aliens interfering with our DNA to make it impossible to lead a life we were intended... and we don't believe in the universal law of action and reaction?

    Someone would have something to say about this.. be it God or the laws of chance. And I don't mean AD.

    Like we spend our time conducting experiments on Ants to prevent them 'moving on to the next level' ?

    It just smacks of paranoid delusion to me. Let's invent a really complicated reality and then I will tell you the only way to escape the very-complicated-reality-which-I-have-just-invented.

    I've got another one for you. Even simpler. Let me have my reality and you have yours. Both are the sum of our experiences. If you hadn't read a book on aliens fiddling with your DNA then you wouldn't be any the wiser. By inference, this also means there are several million other books out there describing a reality of which you are also unaware, yet it is fundamentally important you read them if you are going to live in a survivalist world.

    My reality does not resonate with a universe that states I am anything other than I perceive myself to be. Let's have a universe where we a laboratory rats for another species? Well, if it helps you get to sleep at night, that's fine with me. Do rats escape their cages in laboratories? Erm.. no... so quit inventing a really complicated proces by which you escape your alien jailers. I'm sure rats have similar dreams of grandeur.

    Love is about the only thing that is tangible to me and that makes sense. That and the fact we can not know the truth of our reality from our own standpoint. Anyone who says different in my view... is making it up.

    However believably.

    So yes.. we are all idiots in that respect.

    But it is a wonderful universe and we are wonderful beings. Given the play time we have been granted, see what you can make out of it. (a paper hat? A nodding dog?). If you want to use that time to create complicated realities to fear, then that is your birthright. Nothing wrong there.

    Me? I think the dishes are piling up again.

    K x

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    Aliens interfering with our DNA to make it impossible to lead a life we were intended... and we don't believe in the universal law of action and reaction?

    Someone would have something to say about this.. be it God or the laws of chance. And I don't mean AD.

    Like we spend our time conducting experiments on Ants to prevent them 'moving on to the next level' ?

    It just smacks of paranoid delusion to me. Let's invent a really complicated reality and then I will tell you the only way to escape the very-complicated-reality-which-I-have-just-invented.
    aaaahahaha! What a brilliant post, I had to just quote this part though for the humour. I'm in total agreement, much as I think humans have been engineered in the past to help create our race I don't believe this is a perpetual state of existence for us. It would make no sense, like your ant statement states.

    Someone mentioned it earlier in the thread. Ascension to me is recognising myself in the microscopic and realising my potential in the symmetry of the macro. The entire universe as a huge organic beast of a machine wherein all components have increments of consciousness that expand into potential. Knowing this, I'm happy to just "be" and stare at a leaf as though we were family.

    If that sounds too "hippy" and not complicated enough, my apologies!

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    The Tao that can be described is not the Tao.

    That's a simple enough truth for me and I could write it on a bill receipt and keep it in my wallet.

    It is whatever you want it to be, whatever you discover it to be. Doesn't mean it's right.. because later you may discover the initial truth you believed needs modifying...or was in fact bogus.

    Currently I quite like the idea that we are all connected at the sub-atomic level (superstring field) and that the whole universe is just a single intelligence of which we are a part. The universe trying to experience itself if you will. This is what some current psychologits (!), physigits believe (John Hagelin what the bleep for example).

    Tai-Chi from Wu-Chi.

    Just because I believe this currently though doesn't make it RIGHT.


    However, I've just seen a fifty second video of John Hagelin in a white robe with a gold crown on his head ! So what does that tell you? Go on.. invent your own reality here....

    We all need a Bedtime Story TM (all right's Kulapops) to get to sleep at night. After a while you'll get bored of one and move on to a slightly different version.

    Anyone who thinks their bedtime story is the only bedtime story.. and not only that, wants to inform everyone else that there is only one bedtime story, well... just hasn't been to the children's section of their local library recently.

    I have a rather nice bedtime story currently going in the Douglas Adam's prophecies thread. Check it out! It's all true ! Every word !! (They told me to tell you that ;0) )

    K x


    P.S. Thank you 777... humour is another 'reality', but it's not everyone's cup of tea either...
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    Hi Frank,
    Thank you for your thoughts, that is beautiful. You phrased in that one phrase as to how I see life, thank you.
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    Hi Kulapops
    I really appreciate your posts.

    The lower astral see the spiritual evolution of man kind as a great threat.
    They deny God.
    They are extremely clever.
    They use well meaning people.

    So going back to Ascension assuming its true, this will be seen as a massive threat to their realm.
    Now lets say you want to de power faith in God how would you go about it?
    I would imply that God does not have the power or will to see us through this.
    That only Aliens can help us.
    We need to get on their ships or walk through the star gate.

    Im talking about all the UFO stuff of the last God knows how many years. People went out in the desert to wait for aliens
    Whole UFO fanatical groups have committed suicide and the lower astral laughs.
    Aliens are responsible for moving planets creating artificial moons. Oh yes????
    Where is God in all this?
    If Ascension is spiritual then it must be of God or it is not spiritual.
    There is overwhelming evidence that our whole solar system is going through massive change, what affects Saturn and other planets affects us.
    My personal though is that only the Creator which I call God can bring about this degree of change.
    For me He is over seeing the whole process I trust Him implicitly.

    Having said this Im with Kulapops.
    I would wash his dishes anytime if Rosaline let me. I know who is the power to be reckoned with in my house.LOL
    The tide is coming in it lifts all boats.
    chris
    Be kind to all life, including your own, no matter what!!

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    I found this very interesting article

    Extract
    Newbies to the subject of metaphysics and long standing New Agers are being duped with dis/misinformation in my opinion, and even worse, often times are paying money for this silliness. And some of the biggest issues/qualms I have with the idea of 2012, as it’s being presented in many sources, are the following:

    * Where we’re getting this information from;

    * The fact that it’s the other side of the same “Christian Rapture” coin;

    * It promotes an inaccurate idea of what it means to “shift,” and narrows things down to only one magical date;

    * It inadvertently encourages apathy.


    Let’s examine these ideas more in depth. (and not to sound like my perspective on things is coming from a place of being holier-than-thou and all perfected and saintly (!)……it’s just insight I’ve gleaned over the years, and the things that feel off to me when I read or hear about 2012.)


    1. Where we’re getting this information from. A big part of the reason for why so many people believe that 12/12 represents an instantaneous shift/ascension to a new higher world, versus just merely being the end of a big calendar cycle, is thanks to 30+ years worth of channeling of various entities, as well as the new age movement in general which has been heavily promoting this idea. As noted in the above excerpted email………some are even claiming that it’s all going to happen at 11:11 exactly. (11:11 is a HUGE one within the new age circles.) It just makes me roll my eyes to hear such specific proclamations about it all, down to the exact minute of when it’s going to happen. Have to keep in mind that channeling can be a dubious area, full of disinformation, trickster entities and government infiltration and corruption. Not only that, but you have to factor in the channeler’s own bias and ego into the equation. While I’ve encountered what seemed to me to be a few high quality channeling sources over the past few years of my research, overall I try to remain discerning and analytical with the whole thing. Too often people aren’t aware of the fact that there are higher realm trickster neg entities that like to toy with humans, or the fact that there is government/military infiltration within the New Age scene. So just because channeled entities or new age metaphysics gurus tell us how it is — or how it will be in the future — doesn’t mean it really is. So for me, I’m open to the possibility of big metaphysical changes happening as we approach 2012 and beyond, but I’m not going to believe it solely because channeled sources have said so. I’d like to find my own personal proof that this idea has validity, which is probably always a good idea in general for anything.


    2. It’s the New Age version of “The Rapture.” Like Sananda, the New Age’s version of Jesus, ( he even looks like Jesus which is amazing considering that nobody knows what Jesus really looked like…) the New Age also has Ascension…..their equivalent of the Rapture. Same product, different package. Possibly some very valid ideas, ie, a great shift during these times, big changes for the planet and Mankind, etc., have been purposely hijacked onto the already existing Rapture ticket (something else that I think is misinformation), and distorted in order to lead people astray. And like the Christian Rapture, the New Age idea of Ascension, as it’s typically promoted, involves a select few being “chosen” to make it to the next level, so to speak, based on varying criteria. But I don’t believe a person’s evolution out of third density is about “judgment” and “chosen ones,” as implied, making it a process that’s determined externally by something “grading us” and giving us the “gold star.” That’s a mindset/belief that stems from a lifetime of programming that conditions us to be children at the mercy of higher authority figures who determine our fates for us, taking responsibility out of our hands. Rather, we as individuals determine our own evolution and whether we move beyond 3rd density. Which leads to….


    3. Promotes an inaccurate idea of what it means to “Shift” and narrows it down to one date, and one date only. Many people believe that if they make the grade then one morning, namely December 21, 2012, they’re going to just……wake up in a new magical wonderful realm, called 4th density or what have you, and life will be all shiny and perfect. You just sit around until one day boom, you instantly shift over. Then life is 100% fixed and better, cue the happy New Age music and roll the credits, end of story.

    Out of everything else, it’s this exact belief that stands out for me as being the most potentially dangerous or damaging, which I’ll get more into in a moment. From what I’ve been gathering, the process of “shifting” seems to be a gradual process, and is more about the idea of which realm/probable future you attract to yourself versus instantly switching over to some new world. Which means everything you do every day influences your future.

    I think many people lack awareness of the concept of multiple probable future timelines and the idea of realms, and realm dynamics. It’s not their fault though for not knowing about these concepts. They’re not exactly taught to us in schools or heavily promoted for the average person to know in our society. But what it all means is that the future is not set in stone, there are different versions of it — known as timelines — that you can wind up on, and it’s all determined by the things you are doing in your life right now. Every day, with every choice you make, and every action and every word, you not only draw to yourself what sort of life you’d like to have, but you also determine which of those probable futures you’re going to wind up in.

    So if there is some sort of shift occurring within our reality, then “shifting” is going to be an ongoing process that’s determined on a daily basis, eventually leading up to different people winding up in different probable future realities. That’s the simplified version of it anyway. This means it’s also about taking an active responsibility for ourselves…now. Not sitting around for the next few years expecting to be magically rescued by aliens, Jesus, Sananda, “the Ashtar Command,” or galactic alignments. Which leads to….


    4. It encourages apathy and victimhood. Always question the effects that a particular belief has on people. And in this case, what does the belief in overnight “ascension” into a new magical realm do? It promotes ineffectual apathy and lazy victimhood. Why? Because:

    a) People are putting their lives on hold, believing that there is no point to anything because it’s all going to be over in a few years. I’ve even seen somebody ask on a messageboard what the point of life is between now and 2012. As if there was nothing worth living for or doing between now and then, such was his understanding that it’s just some instantaneous – and guaranteed – switcharoo into a new and magical realm, rendering everything in between to be pointless. !!!!!! What these people fail to realize is that it could all be over for them tomorrow. Next week. Next month. We’re all going to die, all of our lives have an expiration date and most of us don’t know when it’s going to be. Does that mean you don’t live in the meantime? No! Of course not. So don’t assume that you’re going to be here tomorrow, or that you’ll even live to see the year 2012 (let alone that ascension is some guaranteed outcome of that year). You may not. This is a common teaching in many spiritual practices actually — being aware of death and being prepared for it right now. We have to take that principle and apply it to the idea of 2012: Live life to its fullest today, in the now, and make the most of every moment you have.

    For me, I am open to the idea that certain aforementioned factors may converge during the general time period of 2012, disrupting our way of life as we know it, and maybe even possibly resulting in many deaths – mine included. So for me, I’ve used this as motivation to try to get my stuff together. It means we have a limited window of opportunity to clear out our negative junk, get things resolved, and evolve. So rather than becoming complacent, it’s actually done the opposite and motivated me to get a move on and to appreciate every moment now. I think that’s a better way to be. Then if nothing ends up happening….cool. Now you get to keep having a nice life and you got your stuff together.

    Keep in mind too that “The Powers That Be” (TPTB) would love nothing more than for you to go belly up and put everything on hold in your life, believing in a future “end times” date…because this renders you ineffectual in the present. As just pointed out, many ascension believers seem to experience a lack of motivation or desire to do anything anymore from what I gather, such is their belief in this future end date. They’re technically still alive, and yet they’ve still been “taken out of the picture” you could say, only in a different way. The world can benefit from our help right now, but if we’re just lazing around, thinking, “Why bother? What’s the point?” all because of this — supposed — end date, (which may not even result in anything!) then TPTB win.

    b) It encourages the idea of external salvation. People are sitting around waiting to be rescued, be it by aliens, Jesus, a 4th density shift, etc. This mindset of waiting for external salvation advocates not taking responsibility for yourself. But the bottom line is: Nobody else can save you. Only you can save yourself. And it’s you who is responsible for where you wind up in the future. Nobody is going to come and do the work for you, or pluck you out. We’re all responsible for pulling ourselves out of our own hole. There’s always positive stuff around that helps wherever possible, but we have to take the intiative and do our share of the work too. However, we’ve been conditioned over an entire lifetime via school, government, religion, police and society in general to give up our sovereignty to various higher authorities, which keeps us in a powerless, helpless childlike state of mind. So many grown adults out there in the world have trouble with just day-to-day sorts of activities, making decisions, taking charge of navigating through the world from what I’ve seen at my (quite numerous :D ) jobs over the years, to the point of being quite shocking. They’re always looking for somebody else to show them what to do or outright take over and do things for them, and think for them, so they don’t have to. Forget helping themselves when it comes to personal growth and empowerment. But this is exactly why “the system” has been set up around us the way it has in my opinion, to create that sort of a situation. A nation of children in adult bodies. Only when people remember and realize “who they are” and reclaim that sovereignty will things ever change.

    *****

    During the winter of 2008-2009 I was doing a reading with my Osho Zen Tarot and I was asking about the validity of “The Shift.” As I shuffled the cards I intended for my higher self, if it was interested and felt like conversing, to have a card pop out of the deck at me that answered my question. Is this infamous “Shift” real? Is there really something coming our way that’s going to change our reality as we know it? Or (gulp!) have we already missed that boat?? Is it too late?? Did it already happen?!! I mean, ‘cause there’s a thought you know. The big shift/wave has already swept through and me and everybody else in my reality are going down with the boat. !! :D I told my higher self that if it did make a card pop out of the deck, I’d do my best to figure out what it was about the card that it wanted me to see. Shuffle shuffle shuffle…….then out pops a card, onto the carpet. Turned it over and it was the card called “Moment to Moment.” To quote an excerpt of the card’s description from the accompanying deck’s book:

    “The past is no more and the future is not yet: both are unnecessarily moving in directions which don’t exist. One used to exist, but no longer exists, and one has not even started to exist. The only right person is one who lives moment to moment, whose arrow is directed to the moment, who is always here and now; wherever he is, his whole consciousness, his whole being, is involved in the reality of here and in the reality of now. That’s the only right direction. Only such a man can enter into the golden gate. The present is the golden gate. Here-now is the golden gate…….”

    What are the odds, really? Asking if some near-future shift/ascension is real, coming our way, or, if it’s already passed, and to get a card talking about time, and stressing that “the present is the golden gate.” Which ties into something I was told by my higher self in 2002…….that everything we do every day determines what timeline we wind up on. Stressing the importance of the now. The present. So, interesting “coincidence.”

    So, imagine what would happen should we start remembering and realizing “who we are” in the big cosmic sense of the word. A situation where we start seeing through the illusion, and going in a different direction from everybody else, living an existence that’s self empowering and in line with higher ideals. As mentioned, not only does that draw to you more positive immediate life surroundings and experiences, but it helps steer you onto the various probable – positive – futures. And it’s within those various future timelines, the ones that are in line with higher ideals, that eventually lead to realms beyond 3rd density. All of which means that if you’re somebody who would like to shoot for something higher, then it starts right now. Not a few years from now. So take the initiative right now, and decide how your life is going to go, and make the most of what you can every day.

    the whole article here http://in2worlds.net/2012-and-the-shiftascension

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    frank samuel, loving your thoughts! Actions speak louder then words, sometimes all it takes is a gentle smile to a stranger, to lighten (and to some make) their day.

    in love & light
    The states of awareness we currently perceive are only a thiny fraction of the whole.
    The continuum extends deep into nonphysical areas of the universe far beyond our current physical comprehension ~ William Buhlman


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    Quote Posted by frank samuel (here)
    If you seek to ascend or be closer to god, try paying it forward by:
    - Allow that pushy driver in the outside lane next to you to merge ahead of you in your lane;
    - Offer your seat to the pregnant lady standing on the bus for whom no one else seem to want to get up for;
    - Help that old man that is having a hard time carrying his groceries to his car, by offering to take it for him;
    - Offer a smile to the child in the pram that is smiling back at you;
    - Buy that homeless, person you pass every day on your way to work and ignore, a McDonalds meal. etc.


    BMJ these simple things you have mention here are the difference between one who is connected to all and one that is disconnected thinking that my belief will make the difference, silent action of love speak louder than a million pages of the so call truth. It is not my words that have life but every beat of my heart as it connects in love and compassion for everything that surrounds me. This very moment this very second my selfless actions can change my world if only for a moment , the deed coming from our hearts makes all the difference and in that moment you know you are indeed full of life, joy, love, compassion. There's no where I rather be than right here right now taking advantage of every single second to make a difference in my world, for we are just a reflection in the mirror of one another.

    Many many blessings to all...

    You words always help people to find focus int heir lives thank you..

    i do have one complaint though...

    do NOT buy anyone..a meal at Mcd's.....something is very rotten in ronnie's house...

    Bring him a basket of fresh fruit maybe...or fresh baked bread...

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    I would like to thank everyone for their wonderful and personalized input.

    Since my purpose is to make things simple. I will quote a few things that I can take to bed with me tonight and not have nightmares.

    Greybeard: We are an evolutionary species
    We are evolving rapidly at this time
    ……… enlightenment is not something done, it as actually some thing undone, the letting go of all that is not God.
    We are all waves of the Divine ocean.
    I can truthfully say I am a wave of the ocean but I can’t say I am the ocean.
    The fully enlightened can say I am the ocean.

    (Tolle – ‘the shift’ is happening because the totality wants it to happen.)

    Shiva777 – If I recall correctly didn’t Ash say that the Halls of Amenti fell, thereby forestalling ascension at the time, in 2003 because there were not enough people ‘riding the wave’ so to speak? What we need then is a ground swell of people wanting change, wanting to regain their sovereignty and integrity. I don’t think that it’s about a handful of people learning how to ascend sideways.

    Wood: think we just need to become more loving, more responsible of our actions and to raise our consciousness through meditation (just looking into ourselves, no fancy techniques needed). No fears, no worries, no judgments. I think the game is already over.

    Kulapops: I think too that perhaps some of us feel a wave of love that is rising. We're like yachts tied up in a harbour, and so as the tide is coming in, and the water line rises, we feel lifted.

    Stardust: So if there is some sort of shift occurring within our reality, then “shifting” is going to be an ongoing process that’s determined on a daily basis, eventually leading up to different people winding up in different probable future realities. That’s the simplified version of it anyway. This means it’s also about taking an active responsibility for ourselves…now. Not sitting around for the next few years expecting to be magically rescued by aliens, Jesus, Sananda, “the Ashtar Command,” or galactic alignments. Which leads to….
    I love the Tarot reading as well:
    “The past is no more and the future is not yet: both are unnecessarily moving in directions which don’t exist. One used to exist, but no longer exists, and one has not even started to exist. The only right person is one who lives moment to moment, whose arrow is directed to the moment, who is always here and now; wherever he is, his whole consciousness, his whole being, is involved in the reality of here and in the reality of now. That’s the only right direction. Only such a man can enter into the golden gate. The present is the golden gate. Here-now is the golden gate…….”

    Frank Samuel: If you seek to ascend or be closer to god, try paying it forward by:
    - Allow that pushy driver in the outside lane next to you to merge ahead of you in your lane;
    - Offer your seat to the pregnant lady standing on the bus for whom no one else seem to want to get up for;
    - Help that old man that is having a hard time carrying his groceries to his car, by offering to take it for him;
    - Offer a smile to the child in the pram that is smiling back at you;
    - Buy that homeless, person you pass every day on your way to work and ignore, a McDonalds meal. etc.

    As for me: I feel that I get closer to ascension
    Every time I sit and watch the sun setting,
    Whenever I listen to beautiful harmonic music
    I’ve felt my frequencies rise whenever I’ve been fortunate enough to hold a new born baby in my arms
    I feel that I’m on my way whenever I sit in the middle of my garden and quietly take in all the sights, smells and sounds
    I feel that I can rise with Mother Earth every time I lie down in grassy field or float on a calm sea

    So from now on, I am not going to worry myself with learning charts, sacred geometry, spinning merkabahs and the like.
    Anyway the ME of ME already knows all that stuff. I'm going to start raising my body's vibration by experiencing, feeling, loving and being in communion with my fellow humans and Mother Earth.
    Blessings,
    Yiola

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    Wow Yiola
    You got it you really have.
    Thank you so much for starting this thread.
    Chris
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    Hi Yiolas, one of the fastest ways to rise ones frequency is laughter and learning how to laugh at oneself

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    some things to consider for those who may not have thought too deeply about accepted truths...awarenessw of bot the Light and the dark is essential,anything else is a fragile "bubble of bliss" that will soon be popped...I don't agree with all of what is written,but most of it is ESSENTIAL to consider and understand

    http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/hu...huntley_13.htm

    http://educate-yourself.org/mnt/real...t08nov02.shtml

    http://in2worlds.net/new-age-love-and-light-fallacies

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    The newly awaken guide to raising your vibration

    1. Do ramdom acts of kindness
    2. See how you are trapped by your own beliefs (Shiva777 this one is for you)
    3. Trust yourself more in EVERYTHING.
    4. Cultivate Joy...

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    Quote Posted by cccme (here)
    The newly awaken guide to raising your vibration

    1. Do ramdom acts of kindness
    2. See how you are trapped by your own beliefs (Shiva777 this one is for you)
    3. Trust yourself more in EVERYTHING.
    4. Cultivate Joy...
    i must agree with you...even though i dont think singling people out is a good idea...

    Who said...??...its ok to have a point of view, just dont point your view....

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    I myself found ad's info very thick and hard to understand.. I believe david icke, Credo mutwa , jordan maxwell's story's. If you believe these items of information then why is it so outlandish, maybe just something in the human condition that persuades us away from personal responsabilty, call it what you want , reptilians, lower astral planes, illuminati. All really just one's own perception of the problem depending on what level of consciousness one resonates at or gets drawn to.. I would love to hear bill ryan's opinion considering he is in contact with david. David himself was talking of mindcontol transmission coming from the moon, so people believe him but a little more in depth with more details is just inconceivable..

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    Quote Posted by greybeard (here)
    Wow Yiola
    You got it you really have.
    Thank you so much for starting this thread.
    Chris
    Thank-you for your supportive words Chris. There was a time there after listening to all 3 AD tapes and after downloading some of her written material that I thought that I wasn't going to make it. That's when I decided that there has to be a more natural/instinctive way to proceed on my path.
    I also sensed that more people felt the same way. That's when I realized that I could turn to my trusted Avalonian friends to embark on a group effort to find the forest through the trees.

    I thank you all from the bottom of my heart !
    Blessings,
    Yiola

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    Quote Posted by céline (here)
    You words always help people to find focus int heir lives thank you..

    i do have one complaint though...

    do NOT buy anyone..a meal at Mcd's.....something is very rotten in ronnie's house...Bring him a basket of fresh fruit maybe...or fresh baked bread...
    Celine and Yiolas although I thank you I cannot take credit for these suggestions it was BMJ. Yes Celine I will buy them a bucket of fresh fruit instead of taking them to Mcdonalds, the truth is I am just happy to help in whatever way I can. Thank you both for your kind words, lots of love going your way for you are both beautiful flowers whose heart lights up this whole forum with your warm embrace.

    Many many blessings to all....

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    Thanks again Yiola for your sharing.

    We have all been there.
    Forty years ago I started kind of looking. The pyramids fascinating, cant see that the level of civilization of the time could have built them without outside help.

    I didn't get serious until I hit rock bottom with the disease of alcoholism, that was a blessing in disguise

    I have been up every dead end imaginable over these years, some helpful, certainly not a waste of time.
    Ive had healing gems planted in my hands by guardian angels at a Dianna Cooper seminar, 300 people attended. It felt very real.
    Her book a "Little Light on Ascension" is a good bed time read.
    Ive been taught how to do Reiki, had the master symbols implanted in my hands. certainly not a waste of time.
    Many other things too-- but Ive had the time -- 65 years old this year.
    It has been a roller coaster of a ride.
    The books by the enlightened ones came after I had experienced some of the symptoms of spiritual awakening as yet not complete in the form of enlightenment.
    The books confirmed what I knew to be true, I was not therefore conditioned or programmed by them.
    I had to go through the process to have an unshakable knowing that God is within from personal subjective experience.
    Not this, not this, process of elimination has worked.
    No need to convince I just know, I just share, every one already has all they need, no need to be anything other than you are in the very depth of your/our being.

    With love
    Chris
    Be kind to all life, including your own, no matter what!!

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