The Four Control Dramas From The Celestine Prophecy

[Rocky_Shorz]

too bad it was turned into what it did, you came to us and told us what was on your mind, I used it to make a point and most just read the last few posts and don't understand someone around death metal is around that concept all the time. Not as big of a deal as they turned it into.

you came to us for a special moment, it happened, and now you are ready to continue your journey


any other questions?

[DNA]

Posted by Fred S. (here)
All this control drama talk, and no one has volunteered which one they are.Cheers,
Fred

I apoligise, I've been offline for a few days.
Fred,,,I'm personally going to take a pass here. And for the most part,,I would suggest others to do the same.
I don't think it's important for folks to divulge their personal information in order to take advantage of this information.
Also,,,if you would like to create an exercise in order to help illustrate these points, we could find video snippets on youtube, post them, and ask the question what drama do you think is being utilized.

Also, not trying to label anyone Fred, but that question would be very usefull to a inqusitioner drama type. LoL

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
I started solving missing children cases, then called to the big guy to deliver messages, yes there is a Nirvana for souls to rest and regroup, but that is also where you cross into the light when you aren't coming back here for another round. Spirits are everywhere in this dimension that haven't taken the step. so why are any left behind? As for Dimensions, I have been in 3 outside of our own, but it is the same as here, only 1 has the 4D experience, and that is Nirvana, where dreams and heaven meet. one was where the Hall of Kings were located, in darkness, that is where Abaddon was holding his army... the second was through the doorway I brought the army through, it was London gray, no sun but very bright. That was where the Battle with Abaddon happened before he jumped into a Lake of Fire...

for thousands of years, teachers have taught what they know, and students have listened, but for a student to be able to see it in black and white gives them more than just understanding, it gives them truths to build on to grow their inner Spirit, and the knowing they can do it too.
The Celestine properties does a very good job of explaining the concepts in simple English, I'm just sharing what I have learned through experience for when others reach the same point...
there is nothing wrong with believing in Heaven my friend...
been there, done that... it's awesome
a day in heaven is a year on earth, so if you pass 20 years before your spouse, it is just 20 days of relaxing in paradise. 100 days start to finish for a whole family... America is only a little over half a year old...

I don't think I ever stated there is anything wrong with heaven. I personally don't think incarnated humans are allowed to go, wether through astral travel, or dreaming.
There is a veil, a partician in place, our souls are incarnating on earth for the purpose of instruction.
The lessons learned here would lose their value and meaning if we we're given heavenly access while in the flesh.
And as far as making outlandish claims, I'm open to folks being farther along the path than myself, I just think folks that have done so should be able to give a step by step progression of how they achieved such a state. Or atleast hint at the materials that elevated their consciousness to do what they have done.

Without such, their words are empty claims as far as I'm concerned that are attempts at attention and adoration by their peers.

[DNA]

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
Rocky, DNA, anyone else familiar with the principles of the Celestine Prophecy,

are any of you familiar with the books Search for God 1 and 2?

it's a "christian" study guide that was put together by querying the Edgar Cayce source for a clear path to the higher spiritual states. In my estimation it would be seen as a building upon the concepts put forth by Redfield, only fifty or more years earlier. Rocky, you especially would get a kick out of it, if you're not already familiar....

Books 1 and 2 are available in one volume on amazon, and I guarantee it would be worth the expense to have it.

Search for god 1 and 2?
I have never heard of them.
I'm very inerested in the Cayce material. The Cayce material and the Urantia book both hint at the same type of cosmology going on. With spiritual administrators of the galaxy and universe.
These same archangel figures mentioned by Cayce are mentioned in the Urantia book.
Feel free to expand on these topics if you like PurpleLama.

[Rocky_Shorz]

well a million have died following the messages I've delivered, not to convince anyone but me...


sounds pretty cold, but on the brighter side I have watched him save 6.5 Billion


as I said before, it is only empty until you realize it is there in black and white...


and as for attention, why do you think I am here in a conspiracy forum with a very small following if attention was what I was after?


as for peers, I don't speak or teach new age, so I am not even seen by them here...


darn near invisible is how I want to stay

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by DNA (here)

Also, not trying to label anyone Fred, but that question would be very usefull to a inqusitioner drama type. LoL

Ha, swing and a miss!

If you didn't want to get into that DNA that's fine, but in the book any way, it's a common topic of discussion, and one doesn't move any further along without confronting this aspect of themselves. I have no problem divulging mine, but that would be kind of weird if that was the only one.

Cheers,
Fred

[Rocky_Shorz]

I thought the Celestine Prophesies were incredible when I first read it, now with all of this going on to stumble across it on Time Warners Movies on Demand...

like you said nothing like the books, but what I was reading and watching years ago, we're doing now and have even gone further...

[modwiz]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
I thought the Celestine Prophesies were incredible when I first read it, now with all of this going on to stumble across it on Time Warners Movies on Demand...

like you said nothing like the books, but what I was reading and watching years ago, we're doing now and have even gone further...

I agree with you Rocky. The CP's created an awareness that many used to break their energy stealing patterns/habits. I realized that being aloof was how I would get people to tune into me thereby sending me frequencies and then energy as they engaged with me. Often it was because I seemed mysterious and certain people would investigate. When I became aware of this pattern, generated from old emotional wounds from formative years, I changed it the best way a 6'3'' man can by being 'less' present in a room. I would turn down my own signal to attract as little attention as possible. I also dressed and wore my head and facial hair more like a muggle.

I have gone back to my natural appearance now because 'being myself' is necessary to living my truth. I do not want any energy but that from Source and other willing sources.

I think a lot of us have moved there, Fred S included. I still like to keep to myself but just because I enjoy my own company and vibration. There are still plenty out there looking for a free energy meal. lol

[Rocky_Shorz]

well knowing it in group meetings is incredibly important feeding the ones standing with you increases all of you, 3 together can move mountains and that draws the others into your views instead of fighting...

you can gather inbound energy from the sun from these burst, imagine a large net draw it in and feed it to Avalon...

it is a 24 hour gathering from around the world, so almost has a spirit of its own with the collective hearts...

people needing healing, a smile or just to find peace will find what they need and feed it back 7 fold...

[Rocky_Shorz]

there are many connected to Avalon that are like Capacitors, they can absorb incredible amounts of energy and release it when needed, there are others flowing with power from heavens light that are a continuous feed for growth of everyone involved, we are here right now for a moment.

Carmody and Astrid are spinning...

send green to the deserts when you feel your hair starting to rise...

[Carmen]

Ah! Control dramas! I think I used the lot!!! Whatever worked. Great fun. Learned from them all.

[Rocky_Shorz]

some people ask why I wasn't worried about getting a patent on the little Prius invention...

take a look at this post

followed by a 3.9(3x3) Mag earthquake, 100 miles from London, just as long as we've been under control of the fed 100 years... It followed a 7 in Japan...

now for someone not watching, it means nothing, but to the one delivering the messages, it means a lot.

[DNA]

Posted by Fred S. (here)

Posted by DNA (here)

Also, not trying to label anyone Fred, but that question would be very usefull to a inqusitioner drama type. LoL

Ha, swing and a miss!

If you didn't want to get into that DNA that's fine, but in the book any way, it's a common topic of discussion, and one doesn't move any further along without confronting this aspect of themselves. I have no problem divulging mine, but that would be kind of weird if that was the only one.

Cheers,
Fred

LOL, Thats cool.

When I read the Celestine Prophecy for the first time I was blown away.
At the time, I was into Tai Chi, Taoism and Chi Kung, so I was familiar with the idea that energy, the human energy field was a very real thing.

I also had a hard time trying to understand the falsehoods I saw people portraying, but I had no framework with which to operate in.
Right after reading the Celstine Prophecy my non-spiritual uncle handed me a book called "Born to Win".

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Can I just say this book went along with the Celestine Prophecy like Peanut Butter and Jelly.
Transactional Analysis or TA just blew my mind and I was amazed to receive this book so synchronicitically soon after reading The Celestine.
Though this book has a very cheesy self help ring to it, no one who has ever taken my recomendation to read this book and been dissapointed.
Transactional Analysis is the back bone or foundation upon which neuro-linguistic programming is built, though where NLP can be bewildering, Transactional Analysis is striaght forward.

[DNA]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
I thought the Celestine Prophesies were incredible when I first read it, now with all of this going on to stumble across it on Time Warners Movies on Demand...

like you said nothing like the books, but what I was reading and watching years ago, we're doing now and have even gone further...

I agree with you Rocky. The CP's created an awareness that many used to break their energy stealing patterns/habits. I realized that being aloof was how I would get people to tune into me thereby sending me frequencies and then energy as they engaged with me. Often it was because I seemed mysterious and certain people would investigate. When I became aware of this pattern, generated from old emotional wounds from formative years, I changed it the best way a 6'3'' man can by being 'less' present in a room. I would turn down my own signal to attract as little attention as possible. I also dressed and wore my head and facial hair more like a muggle.

I have gone back to my natural appearance now because 'being myself' is necessary to living my truth. I do not want any energy but the from Source and other willing sources.

I think a lot of us have moved there, Fred S included. I still like to keep to myself but just because I enjoy my own company and vibration. There are still plenty out there looking for a free energy meal. lol

Wow, Excellent stuff Modwiz. Thank You.
Agreed there are a lot of those folks who are still looking for a free lunch.
And I think a lot of it has to do with your signature. There are a lot of unexamined lives out there.
Not many folks want to take to the proverbial cave, and go through the stages of elongated introspection.
It's tuff going through that stage where you take nothing about yourself for granted, questioning personal paradigms, why you define things the way you do. I'm not going to lie, it's freaking exhausting.
But, it certainly doesn't need to last forever. And when you are done, you are so much better for it in my opinion.

When most folks claim they don't have a drama type, it is ussually because they are aloof and it is so much harder and less obvious to see than the others.
You sound like you have done some excellent work with yours.
Thank You for your personal illustration Modwiz

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by modwiz (here)
I realized that being aloof was how I would get people to tune into me thereby sending me frequencies and then energy as they engaged with me. Often it was because I seemed mysterious and certain people would investigate.

Well lookie there, Modwiz broke the ice. Ballsy dude! The first time I read the book, maybe 4 years ago or so, I was still a ways off from the jolt of waking up, and thus rapidly learning about all this hidden stuff, energy included. The energy part made sense, and seemed like a good concept, but from a psychological point of view, it struck me with no doubt that I would be in the aloof category also. I read it again over the week-end a couple of weeks ago, and it's amazing the difference a few years can make. Like, how could I have missed this? How could I have missed that?

In a way it's like being a recovering vampire, sucking someone's energy in by being mysterious and/or aloof must be similar to how a bare, smooth neck would look to the vampire. But, once it's firmly understood that there is infinite energy available for all, and this is not a closed circuit, it makes it a lot easier. Hell, it's actually kind of fun just to toss energy right back out there, or to other people, just cause.

You know, come to think of it, that's a VERY dangerous understanding to those who would prefer to keep the circuit closed. Maybe I'll send them a little love jolt, just to say good morning.


Cheers,
Fred

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by DNA (here)
Though this book has a very cheesy self help ring to it, no one who has ever taken my recomendation to read this book and been dissapointed.

Thanks for adding that part in DNA, I was really starting to wonder. LOL. So o.k., I'll check it out if you say so. Actually, though I've heard a lot about NLP type stuff, it's something I've yet to really investigate, therefore I shall.


Thanks and Cheers,
Fred

[DNA]

Posted by Fred S. (here)
Well lookie there, Modwiz broke the ice. Ballsy dude! The first time I read the book, maybe 4 years ago or so, I was still a ways off from the jolt of waking up, and thus rapidly learning about all this hidden stuff, energy included. The energy part made sense, and seemed like a good concept, but from a psychological point of view, it struck me with no doubt that I would be in the aloof category also. I read it again over the week-end a couple of weeks ago, and it's amazing the difference a few years can make. Like, how could I have missed this? How could I have missed that?

In a way it's like being a recovering vampire, sucking someone's energy in by being mysterious and/or aloof must be similar to how a bare, smooth neck would look to the vampire. But, once it's firmly understood that there is infinite energy available for all, and this is not a closed circuit, it makes it a lot easier. Hell, it's actually kind of fun just to toss energy right back out there, or to other people, just cause.

You know, come to think of it, that's a VERY dangerous understanding to those who would prefer to keep the circuit closed. Maybe I'll send them a little love jolt, just to say good morning.


Cheers,
Fred

I think I have an illustration. Something to give a little perspective.
When I was 22 I was trying to get my best freind involved in some of my pursuits.
I had explained the tenents of the Celestine to him, but he was uninterested.

I took him to the local spiritual book store at the time. The Alpha book store here in Phoenix.
As he was paroosing the book racks he came back to me with something he thought was immensly interesting.
The memory reminds of this scene from Harry Potter's first deathly hallows. When Tom Riddle asks Professor Slughorn how to make a horcrux.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=buJPwD5nW1g

My friend Brandon, brought me a book he had been browsing through and asked my opinion.
The book was titled "Chaos Magic".
I read the preface and paroosed the first chapter.
The book was an independently published book, and it was a limted edition pamphlet style book. It was number 78 of 500.
The book was the evil version of the Celestine Prophecy, it showed you how to steal people's energy.

The premise was to get people to agree with you on small subjects, like the weather or sports or something not of substance.
Then increase the measure of the agreements by moving the barometer of importance.
I was so glad to see an interest in spiritual matters and the soul, that I admitted it was legit.

The guy was already a kind of natural born leader if you will. Very charasmatic.
He then began to follow every statement he would make with a "you know what I mean?" and add slight affirmative head movements in with his questions.

It's sad really. He only became interested in spirituality when there was an angle to it.
His whole life was about capturing as much energy from folks as he could.
He became a musician, but he had absolutely no talent, so he did rock/rap, and he rapped. Horrible.
The worst part wasn't when he was on stage, but when he would endlessly lobby for folks to go to his shows. This was when he would use the Poor me drama on folks saying how hard the music scene was.
This was when our freindship ended.
He covered himself with tattooes, jewelry the works. This was so he could be aloof when he wanted to.
He would emerse himself in republican dogma and then bait people into dialogues which invariably became debates he would never really lose because he would never budge or listen to what you had to say, this so he could use inquistion drama.

And then he emmersed himself in MMA (mixed martial arts) and became a profesional cage fighter.
And you know where this ended up. Yea, now he could threaten to beat your ass when things didn't go his way.
So yea, then he dashed in some intimidation into the mix.

But all in all, being used to living off of others people's energy is a sad way to go.
The music scene ended for him, his body broke down so no more cage fighting.
He started doing prescription pain killers a few years back, and this led to opiates, and now he is addicted to heroin.

I think that is why a lot of celebrities probably get addicted to drugs.
They are used to living off of so many people's energy that they don't know how to tap into their own.

[Carmen]

The energy of performance is interesting. Ive been an amateur singer all my life and the energy attention of a performance is satisfying. When I am singing at my best the audience is captured/engrossed in a bubble of experience. They are still and completely at one with the singer, the words, the music. I can understand performers becoming addicted to performing in order to receive that energy/attention.

Great orators command the same energy/attention.

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by modwiz (here)

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
I thought the Celestine Prophesies were incredible when I first read it, now with all of this going on to stumble across it on Time Warners Movies on Demand...

like you said nothing like the books, but what I was reading and watching years ago, we're doing now and have even gone further...

I agree with you Rocky. The CP's created an awareness that many used to break their energy stealing patterns/habits. I realized that being aloof was how I would get people to tune into me thereby sending me frequencies and then energy as they engaged with me. Often it was because I seemed mysterious and certain people would investigate. When I became aware of this pattern, generated from old emotional wounds from formative years, I changed it the best way a 6'3'' man can by being 'less' present in a room. I would turn down my own signal to attract as little attention as possible. I also dressed and wore my head and facial hair more like a muggle.

I have gone back to my natural appearance now because 'being myself' is necessary to living my truth. I do not want any energy but that from Source and other willing sources.

I think a lot of us have moved there, Fred S included. I still like to keep to myself but just because I enjoy my own company and vibration. There are still plenty out there looking for a free energy meal. lol

what is going on right now is a raising of energies, great for those who have learned meditation and understand their energies as they grow, but most of the world is clueless and still going through the same rise.

but instead of making it difficult, I'm trying to teach what the conscious mind understands...

for John and Carmen, your area is getting blasted with sun energy, imagine catching it and redirecting it into rains to grow the desert into forest and croplands...

you might think it sounds silly, but you are just telling your Spirit what you want, it does the rest, those connected to you, don't even realize what they are doing, but their spirit joins yours and it continues growing, and only the one who started it really knows what is happening.

a year from know when you look around you'll go wow, it all started with just a thought...

who says it needs to be harder?

[Rocky_Shorz]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
some people ask why I wasn't worried about getting a patent on the little Prius invention...

take a look at this post

followed by a 3.9(3x3) Mag earthquake, 100 miles from London, just as long as we've been under control of the fed 100 years... It followed a 7 in Japan...

now for someone not watching, it means nothing, but to the one delivering the messages, it means a lot.

now for those of you that looked back this far and said, ok it is in black and white, but why after the 7.3 in Japan instead of before...

well, take a look at this message, which was followed by the 7.0

so many coincidences one after the other, sooner or later you realize it isn't...

[dddanieljjjamesss]

thank you
interrogator here
my mother was a guilt tripper
heh
time to fix all this mess