What's happening in China?

[loveandgratitude]

HOW IS CHINA MANAGING IT'S ECONOMIC MIRACLE
You know...the one we wrecked our manufacturing
base for and the one that's going to show the world
how to do it right.

Maybe not.

This video shows the truth ..... about the miracle

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=rPILhiTJv7E

MAYBE A NEW REVOLUTION IS NEEDED TO HOUSE THE POOR

[cayman]

Where the Mystery is the deepest is the gate of all that is subtle and wonderful......

[mosquito]

Nice to find this thread, I'm still relatively new here, and have attempted to give people an outsider's view of China. Hope we can make contact

[Hybrid5226]

Counterfeiting an profit

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=aU82h-yxCJg

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AQYsLikHkNs

[hao]

Question time for 'the authority on China issue on avalon', let's start with the water powered car claim

According to David Wilcock's "China's October Surprise", China sent briefcases to various government around the world last year, it is said a blueprint for a working battery running a car on water was included.

My question is do you think China actually possess such technology? And if it does when did the country acquire such technology?

[hao]

It is almost half year now since this thread was created, during which time many interesting and profound developments have transpired, none of which are been updated here.


Here is an important update, the CCP just had it's 90th anniversary on July 1st, but the former president was missing from the show. According to foreign reports, the man is allegedly deceased, however the Chinese government is censoring such rumors. Meanwhile, high official Li Yuan Chao, former head of JiangSu province is emphasizing the need to fight corruptions, a week later Lai Chang Xing was detained by the CBSA, he is expected to be repatriated to China later this month.

Posted by Hao
Then I want to say there are different factions within the CCP, at least, the former president and the current president don’t always agree with each other. Like how Hu dealt with the corrupt former Shanghai mayor Chen liangyu, the incident reflects internal power struggles between the so called "shanghai group" and "Hu's camp".

It’s pertinent to add, that some members of this "shanghai group" still hold important positions in the current government, but nonetheless are known for connection to some of the biggest corruption cases ever occurred since the founding of the PRC.
The family member of a high ranking official i met belong to the "shanghai group", they have strong dislike towards another high ranking official who once suggested that all CCP officials should have their properties registered. But according to them, the man who made such suggestion is more corrupt than anyone else.

It doesn’t matter who’s more corrupt, its clear to me its a sign of rampant corruption within the CCP, that some of the biggest corruption cases occurred during the reign of "shanghai group" will need some conclusion in the future.

When there is corruption, and greed for money, it makes sense certain parts of the Chinese government would "fell prey" to the NWO. Which is precisely why there have been warnings from both civilian and military intellectuals all these years. Another sign of this would be the biggest corruption case since founding of the PRC that is still unsolved, am talking about the Lai's case, who’s seeking refuge in Canada for all these years, and Canada happens to be a close friend of the USA, the CIA would surely exploit such to their own advantage because it involves very high ranking officials from the "shanghai group".

It seems it started sooner than i expected.

By this stage, if one haven't already figured out "What's happening in China". As the saying goes "A slight error in the beginning results in a big mistake in the end".

As for the water powered car question, here is what i got

Recently i read a blog speculating this year's devastating Japanese earthquake has something to do with Japan's intention to manufacture water powered cars. As i was informing my mother this assumption, she reminded me that such technology was actually already available to China in the early 70s.

So i inquired her further on this matter, this is what i got, my mother used to work in a state owned trading company specializing in chemicals and instruments, it was 1974 or 1975, one of her colleague told her that they had the choice of pursuing several projects, one of them was the water powered car, it was ready for industrialization which means the development of such technology must have been initiated some time earlier, she think it was not an imported technology since their department engaged only in export at the time.(and frankly who would have exported such technology to China in the early 70s? Not to mention even now such technology does not officially exist) However, such project was never realized.

But one answer leads to more questions, the first one would be "If China indeed had the know-how of making water-powered cars, then why it didn't industrialize the technology?" or it could be asked another way "What stopped the country to industrialize the technology?"

I tried to give the halt an explanation; maybe such technology would put too much strain on the consumption of China's fresh water resources especially when it is scarce in North China. But my mother also informed me that China had working technology for ocean water desalination, she told me as matter of fact she was in charge of such project, and they were targeting those dry otherwise coastal Arabian countries for the export of it, but some of them rejected the technology saying it is too "expensive" for them, while others seemed not interested at all.

So, rich oil producing countries in the Middle East who lack fresh water resources couldn't afford ocean water desalination technology, and at the same time China was about to industrialize the water powered car?

Hmm, something was not right, and this is just the prelude.

[hao]

The significance of Lai Chang Xing's repatriation signaled several things,

Internally, the current government is cleaning the mess left by the former regime in order to give the next government which will be inaugurated next year, a "clean" start. A necessary and long sought preparation heralding the transition from "energy war" to "energy revolution". A "new" government that is "compatible" with the future plan as outlined by the country's "12th five year plan".

Obviously, “clean” would be implied to political environment, besides Li yuan chao, the former head of Jiangsu province; Wang yang, the head of another major economic province is also emphasizing on the need for “a long-term fight against corruption”. Bo xi lai, the former trade minister is now the head of Chongqing, China’s biggest municipal city, since he took charge, the terrible corruption that plagued the city before has been considerably cleansed. These are the men which will form the cornerstone of next government.

Besides political implication, there is another aspect to the notion of “clean”. Some recent developments I see as indicators of such “clean” start.

Russian president Medvedev announced that rely on "energy export" as primary means for Russia's economic growth will change in the future, not only Russia wants to change it's economic strategy, it wants to achieve a GDP growth on par with that of China and Brazil. The announcement came just after the state visit paid by Chinese president Hujintao whereafter he attended the .St. Petersburg International Economic Forum. (The elites were reportedly [by fulford] offering Russia the choice of becoming the new financial centre of the world, an attempt to cling on to their power, but it seems Russia has made its decision)
So how is it possible for Russia to double even triple its GDP growth without relying on "energy export"?

The clue maybe found in one of the agreement signed between Russia and China during this recent visit, namely "co-operation on renewable energy". During the visit, the Chinese president also called for "the industrialization of high-tech"

Such call echoes the announcement made by the Chinese government earlier this year. In its "12th five year plan", China wants to "stop environmental pollution", but how is it possible for them to do that with the current technology? Perhaps not coincidentally, one of the things that's going to happen according to the "plan" will be the "industrialization of high-tech", China's Aerospace corporation alone have thousands of high-tech patents that are currently not available to the civilian sector, but now the Chinese government wants to industrialize them in the near future.

Not coincidentally, the BRICS summit in China agreed on greater dependence on currencies other than the dollar. New Zealand actually bought millions dollar worth of Chinese currency as China allows trade using RMB for the first time, Russia ordered even more amount right after the summit.

A car can actually run on water, but clean energy was suppressed by the elites; instead they based their world rule on oil and their oil currency, the dollar. And by using the "power of nightmares"(BBC documentary) to legitimize their rule, here comes the "evil" Soviet, here come the "evil" terrorists, and now here come the "evil" China. But now, signs are this system is gradually phasing out. The main driving force for such change is the BRICS it seems.

Globally, for a decade, Canada safeguarded Lai because they were forced by certain power that controls the U.S.A, that power is now losing grasp on Canada, which also means it is losing grasp on America itself as well. And there should be visuals.

Towards the end of last year, just as everyone pondered over America's unprecedented hostile maneuver, in which three carrier groups were gathered around China, but there was a 180 degree turn as Robert Gates visited China in January, which was followed by the Chinese president's state visit to America.

The recent visit by the chairman of JCS Mike Mullen came as result of general Chen bing de's earlier tour of the America, but also the result of the "common understanding" reached in January.

Similarly unprecedented, besides the Second Artillery Corps, Mike Mullen was allowed to take a tour of the advanced Chinese Yuan class submarine.
http://himg2.huanqiu.com/attachment2...6f2881a7ce.jpg

As mentioned by Benjamin fulford, the recent friendly exchange between the world's two most powerful military means they do not want to see the world to be destroyed by nuclear holocaust, in another words, those who have the plan to wipe out billions of people have now lost considerable control over the American military.

This is the equivalent of another JFK+Khrushchev moment, the only difference is this time they tried to assassinate a senator named Gabrielle Giffords.

It is probably why 1/9 of America's ICBMs were jammed by advanced technologies last October.
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...11+PRN20110620

Like Benjamin Fulford said, what conceived as conspiracy will be reported by mainstream media, eventually it will become history.

The undertaking of covert otherwise effective military counteraction is probably why there was a 180 degree turn between the two military, and is probably why Benjamin said the following in his latest report

Posted by Benjamin fulford
The secret institutions devoted to violence are secret because they are in some way opposed to the public institutions devoted to violence. Various national spy agencies are a case in point. A Chinese agent in the US, for example, operates in secrecy because inside the US the Chinese are not the dominant public power.

His example was perhaps not randomly picked.

P.S. A current development which i see as indicator of the transition.

Chinese official visits UAE's planned carbon-neutral city, hopes for strategic partnership
http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/90...3/7441027.html

[Flash]

Thank you hao.

It is quite interesting to have news about the Chinese political scene and an analysis from a Chinese point of view.

It is also interesting to have news about the involvement of the West in China or Russia, some of which I had never heard before, such as Canada hosting a renown corrupt leader or USA having carrier groups around China.

This may explain the missile that seem to have gone off the coat of California last year.

As for the car running on water, it seems that the technology has been developed all around the world, but never put into production, from what I gather over time here and there.

[onawah]

This casts an interesting light on Richard Hoagland's recent astounding prediction (of course, much of what he says is "astounding", but still, it's kind of interesting). He said that Obama's running mate, since (he said) Biden would be stepping down, would be Gabrielle Giffords.

"This is the equivalent of another JFK+Khrushchev moment, the only difference is this time they tried to assassinate a senator named Gabrielle Giffords."

[nickc2496]

Yeah there is a massive glass ceiling on public technology - we could have all been off the grid years ago, no need for fossil fuels, each person growing at least some of their food fresh and organically treating animals with respect and eating alot less meat, this current veil of holding the masses back is so dam childish and egotistical, perpetuated buy scared weak minded old fools, the system is on the way down, thats why so much is happening - it will get rougher before the calm - but man, i cant wait...i must happen for there to be change, america will go bust very soon, the euro is a failure, both pushed on by private reserve banks - the middle east is on fire, we are so far out of balance something must give, its so obvious, i hope that in the next few years more truth comes out and when people wake up on mass - the true new/next age can begin, man it will be such a time of creativity and passion, and most of all self worth, a world of co-operation not competition.

Any culture based on a single 'ism that does not share ideas and realize if we open our minds/hearts we each have a piece of the puzzle, if we exclude and not include we will never have the whole picture

Peace ad love my sisters and brothers

[T Smith]

Posted by hao (here)
Question time for 'the authority on China issue on avalon', let's start with the water powered car claim

According to David Wilcock's "China's October Surprise", China sent briefcases to various government around the world last year, it is said a blueprint for a working battery running a car on water was included.

My question is do you think China actually possess such technology? And if it does when did the country acquire such technology?

In my view, yes, this is quite possible. The technology exists, but is suppressed by very powerful Anglo-American interests. If Wilcock is right, it would be a very dangerous game for the person or entity from whom China acquired the technology, assuming they didn't reverse-engineer their prototype and develop it themselves. Even more dangerous (as in hot WWIII dangerous) is if China is using this technology as some kind of technological-revolution threat--a kind of tacit blackmail to the West, if you wish. One would think if this revolution were to occur in China and throughout her sphere of influence, it might seriously threaten the Anglo-American Establishment, or even the agenda of Richard Dolan's breakaway civilization, if China broke out this technology in the world economy of the plebs.

If these connections are truly related, and there is no way to know without specialized research on the subject, it could explain a more detailed account of what the war in Libya is about. James Norman's The Oil Card provides an excellent framework of setting up this possibility. Personally, though, I'm just not so sure China isn't under the full control of the interests suppressing this technology, in which case the possibility above is simply wild conjecture...

[hao]

Posted by onawah
This casts an interesting light on Richard Hoagland's recent astounding prediction (of course, much of what he says is "astounding", but still, it's kind of interesting). He said that Obama's running mate, since (he said) Biden would be stepping down, would be Gabrielle Giffords.

"This is the equivalent of another JFK+Khrushchev moment, the only difference is this time they tried to assassinate a senator named Gabrielle Giffords."

When George Noory questioned Richard Hoagland about that claim, Richard asked him “Do you believe the Mayans are spiritual people?” In the “NASA Kennedy Obama Connection to 2012”, he tries to make certain parallel between the two, and how GWB and Obama were treated differently by the Mayan priests.

It seems the basis of this daring political prediction of his comes from his understanding of the Mayan culture and the 2012 prophecy.
Gabrielle Giffords assassination happened just a week before president Hu’s meeting with president Obama. She’s a strong supporter of renewable energy, and as i have pointed it out in my previous post that China is on the path of pursuing “clean” future as well. That’s little more than “coincidental” for me.
If Gabrielle Giffords attempted assassination was politically motivated, then there should be “inconsistency” from the crime scene, just like the mysterious murder case of JFK

Civilian doctors who first treated Giffords said the bullet had entered the back of her head and exited through the front of her skull, but experienced military physicians later concluded that it had traveled in the opposite direction

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...-brk12-ON.html

Interestingly, in the TV series “The Event”, Dempsey, the backstage man who exert influence in American politics tried to have a black president killed because he was trying to make public announcement about the existence of human ETs.
Given that, Nexus editor’s “Chinese briefcases” thread from GLP;David Wilcock’s “China’s October Surprise”;Kerry Cassidy’s Blog entry;Benjamin Fulford, though with different interpretation and guise, are all reporting that China is collaborating with ETs.
And DW’s article “Official Government Disclosure Has Begun” claims a human ET representative came with the Chinese delegation during the January meeting.
Perhaps, not coincidentally, there was another attempted political murder, this time, on the life of a senator who was predicted to be a black president’s running mate in 2012.

Also worth to mention is Richard Hoagland’s partner Ken Johnston, a mason who used to work in NASA. He once said most of the masons don’t know about their activity in NASA, and they don’t agree with them Hoagland considers the freemasons to be a positive thing.
The clue to the connection between Mayan and freemason maybe found in modern Gnostic interpretation of Eric Van Daniken’s “Cosmic serpents”

During the rise of Christianity, the Serpents were forced to hide within clandestine orders or become assimilated into eastern cultures which welcomed their ancient rites and practices. In the west the Serpents continued to survive as the Freemasons, Templars, and Rosicrucians- organizations which from their inception strove to overthrow the shackles of Christianity and eventually transform the entire Earth into a world based upon freedom of belief and speech.

http://www.moorsgate.com/2008/04/27/...nts-of-wisdom/

This interpretation casts an interesting light on Benjamin fulford’s report regarding the “Japanese bearer bond scandal”
http://gizadeathstar.com/2011/05/the...jamin-fulford/
in which he claims the involvement of “Knights Templar” and Freemasons.

It seems there is a conflict of interest between various factions which involves the elite and “the descendants of serpents”; that dramatic events are on the increase as 2012, “the year of the returning serpents” is getting close.

With that context, it is the realization of the imprint of serpent legacy behind the dawn of Chinese civilization which makes it easier for the entertaining of such “JFK+Khrushchev” moment.
http://www.spiritualgenome.com/page/...p_circles.html

Though everyone knows now from “V” and “Battle of Los Angeles”, those who are pushing for “free energy” or use water as energy source are the insidious ones threatening humanity. Then “China threat” is not the only “threat” humanity is facing.

“To reach the same goal by different means”, what’s same is the question “Do you believe the Mayans are spiritual people?”

[Referee]

Thank the center of the universe. It is about time real disclosure started. I feel very positive energy right now. I feel we will win this.

PS what will the US administration do when faced with the questions that will arise?

Live, Laugh, Love

Best Regards,

Referee

[onawah]

Interesting!
Sine I didn't watch "V"or "Battle of Los Angeles", would you please explain what you mean by "Though everyone knows now from “V” and “Battle of Los Angeles”, those who are pushing for “free energy” or use water as energy source are the insidious ones threatening humanity. Then “China threat” is not the only “threat” humanity is facing."

How could pushing for free energy or the use of water as an energy source be insidious?
Thanks.

Posted by hao (here)

Posted by onawah
This casts an interesting light on Richard Hoagland's recent astounding prediction (of course, much of what he says is "astounding", but still, it's kind of interesting). He said that Obama's running mate, since (he said) Biden would be stepping down, would be Gabrielle Giffords.

"This is the equivalent of another JFK+Khrushchev moment, the only difference is this time they tried to assassinate a senator named Gabrielle Giffords."

When George Noory questioned Richard Hoagland about that claim, Richard asked him “Do you believe the Mayans are spiritual people?” In the “NASA Kennedy Obama Connection to 2012”, he tries to make certain parallel between the two, and how GWB and Obama were treated differently by the Mayan priests.

It seems the basis of this daring political prediction of his comes from his understanding of the Mayan culture and the 2012 prophecy.
Gabrielle Giffords assassination happened just a week before president Hu’s meeting with president Obama. She’s a strong supporter of renewable energy, and as i have pointed it out in my previous post that China is on the path of pursuing “clean” future as well. That’s little more than “coincidental” for me.
If Gabrielle Giffords attempted assassination was politically motivated, then there should be “inconsistency” from the crime scene, just like the mysterious murder case of JFK

Civilian doctors who first treated Giffords said the bullet had entered the back of her head and exited through the front of her skull, but experienced military physicians later concluded that it had traveled in the opposite direction

http://www.azcentral.com/news/articl...-brk12-ON.html

Interestingly, in the TV series “The Event”, Dempsey, the backstage man who exert influence in American politics tried to have a black president killed because he was trying to make public announcement about the existence of human ETs.
Given that, Nexus editor’s “Chinese briefcases” thread from GLP;David Wilcock’s “China’s October Surprise”;Kerry Cassidy’s Blog entry;Benjamin Fulford, though with different interpretation and guise, are all reporting that China is collaborating with ETs.
And DW’s article “Official Government Disclosure Has Begun” claims a human ET representative came with the Chinese delegation during the January meeting.
Perhaps, not coincidentally, there was another attempted political murder, this time, on the life of a senator who was predicted to be a black president’s running mate in 2012.

Also worth to mention is Richard Hoagland’s partner Ken Johnston, a mason who used to work in NASA. He once said most of the masons don’t know about their activity in NASA, and they don’t agree with them Hoagland considers the freemasons to be a positive thing.
The clue to the connection between Mayan and freemason maybe found in modern Gnostic interpretation of Eric Van Daniken’s “Cosmic serpents”

During the rise of Christianity, the Serpents were forced to hide within clandestine orders or become assimilated into eastern cultures which welcomed their ancient rites and practices. In the west the Serpents continued to survive as the Freemasons, Templars, and Rosicrucians- organizations which from their inception strove to overthrow the shackles of Christianity and eventually transform the entire Earth into a world based upon freedom of belief and speech.

http://www.moorsgate.com/2008/04/27/...nts-of-wisdom/

This interpretation casts an interesting light on Benjamin fulford’s report regarding the “Japanese bearer bond scandal”
http://gizadeathstar.com/2011/05/the...jamin-fulford/
in which he claims the involvement of “Knights Templar” and Freemasons.

It seems there is a conflict of interest between various factions which involves the elite and “the descendants of serpents”; that dramatic events are on the increase as 2012, “the year of the returning serpents” is getting close.

With that context, it is the realization of the imprint of serpent legacy behind the dawn of Chinese civilization which makes it easier for the entertaining of such “JFK+Khrushchev” moment.
http://www.spiritualgenome.com/page/...p_circles.html

Though everyone knows now from “V” and “Battle of Los Angeles”, those who are pushing for “free energy” or use water as energy source are the insidious ones threatening humanity. Then “China threat” is not the only “threat” humanity is facing.

“To reach the same goal by different means”, what’s same is the question “Do you believe the Mayans are spiritual people?”

[hao]

Some recent developments and signs of change

Internally, first it’s the former Chinese president's mysterious absence during CCP's 90th anniversary,
2 years ago, during the anniversary of the founding of PRC, the man was standing behind a rather uncomfortable Hu on Tiananmen, looking content and relaxed, as if he's still the president when Hu was his vice, but during the CCP's 90th anniversary, an occasion for "shine and brag" (of what the man enjoys), the former leader is "mysteriously" vanished as though he didn't exist.
Then high officials from major economic provinces are vowing to fight corruption,
Today, former deputy mayor of Hangzhou, capital of Zhejiang province, and former deputy mayor of Suzhou, a major city in Jiangsu province were put to death. The provinces are adjacent to Shanghai, could be the start of a campaign against the "Shanghai group".
But those two deputies are "smaller fishes"; bigger ones will be caught when Lai Chang Xing returns. Storm is coming for somebody, is it the reason behind the gloomy looks on the faces of former powerful men who did show up during the 90th anniversary, an occasion they supposed to "shine and brag"?
For the two deputies, this time, the government is “deadly serious”.

Globally, The Washington post sensed that "something is adrift"

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton is in India for a strategic dialogue that will focus on how China’s ascendance is transforming Asia. At her next stop, Indonesia, she is to hold trilateral consultations — U.S.-Japan-Korea and U.S.-Japan-Australia — on the margins of a broader regional forum. The Obama administration understands that Japan and India are critical bookends of a regional strategy aimed at peaceful cooperation with a rising China. Both Japan and India are moving closer to the United States precisely because of their concerns about China’s direction. Yet something is adrift.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...gMI_story.html

Also, right after Mike Mullen's visit, the Dalai Lama is being greeted by president Obama. Then Hotan, a city in Xinjiang was attacked by armed men, goes the western media blitz, biased towards what the WUC's saying over what the Chinese government is saying as usual.

So, the "Jasmine revolution" didn't work out as planned, trying the Tibet and Xinjiang cards would be the unsurprised move.

But is this the “master plan” or “last ditch”?

[hao]

Posted by onawah
How could pushing for free energy or the use of water as an energy source be insidious?

It was meant as sarcasm.

In "battle of Los Angeles", the aliens use water as power source for their battery
http://oi52.tinypic.com/2ijhf6d.jpg

In "V", the Reptilian aliens dazzle the world with their "Blue energy", which is "clean sustainable energy -- no pollution, no infrastructure needed, just power"
http://i56.tinypic.com/15nu5y0.jpg
http://i51.tinypic.com/9ql9if.jpg

But their real intention is to colonize earth by exterminating humans.

[onawah]

Thanks for clarifying that.

[fifi]

What happens to Cayman? I miss his posts.

[hao]

Posted by onawah (here)
Thanks for clarifying that.

Glad you like the part about "serpents".

Freemasons, ancient Egypt, ancient China and Knights templars are connected in strange ways

Ben Gates: We found an engraving on the stem of a 200-year-old pipe.
Riley Poole: Owned by the Free Masons.
Abigail Chase: May I see the pipe?
Ben Gates: We don't actually have it.
Abigail Chase: Did Bigfoot take it?

Powell: [referring to the underground staircase] How do a bunch of guys with hand tools build all this?
Ben Gates: Same way they built the pyramids - and the Great Wall of China.
Riley Poole: Yeah... the aliens helped them.

In the National Treasure movie, when they pondered over how freemasons build the treasure pit that contains the treasures of Knights Templar, though the answer is meant to be a joke, but it was actually correct in claiming "ET influence" over these ancient cultures, i mean the Great Wall of China was built by the first emperor of China, Qin shihuangdi, which really didn't require any "ET" assistance in constructing it. But the man was indeed visited by a group of "ETs" after he had just unified China, but he didn't refer them as "ETs", they were regarded as "Immortals" by the emperor himself.

Interestingly, the Masonic symbol consists of compasses and a carpenter's square, tools for drawing a circle and a square.
http://i53.tinypic.com/14e6ydz.png

Ancient depictions of Nuwa and Fuxi, the goddess creator and her companion who is credited with the invention of basic concepts of the I Ching (aka "the book of changes"), they often have compasses and a carpenter's square in their hands too
http://i54.tinypic.com/14o56c.jpg
http://i54.tinypic.com/2ikqste.jpg

Ancient Chinese believed that "the Heaven is round" and "the earth is square", those holding the compasses and a carpenter's square have the knowledge of Heaven and earth. Nuwa and Fuxi are always depicted as serpentine beings, having serpent/dragon form is a synonym for "divine" in Chinese culture.

The Temple of Heaven in Beijing was built by the Ming dynasty in the early 15th century, those round platforms represent the Heaven, and the square platform represents earth.
http://i54.tinypic.com/2z7lst3.jpg

It seems there is a connection between freemasons and the Chinese culture, and i wouldn't be surprised about it, since there is a connection between Mayan and Chinese culture, and a connection between Mayan and the freemasons.

In Graham Hancock's view, the serpent is the keeper of knowledge as well, citing ancient Gnostics and how they regarded serpents differently compared to conventional Christian depiction, he said "Christianity lost its way when the Roman empire took over". His fond for the serpents grew after his Ayahuasca experience in the Amazon jungle where he got his inspiration for "Entangled", his latest work.

This interpretation can be mirrored in the story of Cleopatra, she was never the "Sexy bombshell" which became the synonym for "seducer of men", she had a rather "ordinary" look.
http://i56.tinypic.com/2j3ljz5.jpg

Some forces in Rome perceived the knowledge stored in the Great libary of Alexandria as "threat" the way the "oil dependent" elites of today's world would have perceived the "water powered car". That's probably why they have Egypt invaded and the libary destroyed and then kept the loot in the vault of Vatican. As mentioned by history channel's Ancient Alien series, the creator of the Coral Castle of Florida claimed that he knows how the ancient Egyptians build the pyramid, is a tentative evidence to the reality of how the mass being kept away from ancient lost knowledges.

Another of Hancock's contribution to this interpretation of history is his accidental discovery of the Ark of Covenant, hide by Knights Templars in Ethiopia for centuries, and for centuries their successors protect the artifact from falling into the hands of invading European armies.

With this interpretation of the serpents, the surge of tales of how Christian knights slaying the hideous creatures called dragons in the early ADs which signifying the virtue and valor of a true Christian, (later expanded to the slaughtering of the Saracen Infidels) offers a glimpse into the psyche of "surviving serpents in the West" and why they "strive to overthrow the shackles of Christianity".

If the Christian tales about the dragons were deemed (in the eyes of the serpents) as "demonization", then "V" is just the continuation of a legacy, but also the herald of what's gonna happen, and rather "imminent", because time is a different concept for "immortals" as compared to our measure of it.

The equivalent of "the rise of Atlantis", as in "Stargate: Atlantis", if you will.

[hao]

Posted by T Smith (here)
In my view, yes, this is quite possible. The technology exists, but is suppressed by very powerful Anglo-American interests. If Wilcock is right, it would be a very dangerous game for the person or entity from whom China acquired the technology, assuming they didn't reverse-engineer their prototype and develop it themselves. Even more dangerous (as in hot WWIII dangerous) is if China is using this technology as some kind of technological-revolution threat--a kind of tacit blackmail to the West, if you wish. One would think if this revolution were to occur in China and throughout her sphere of influence, it might seriously threaten the Anglo-American Establishment, or even the agenda of Richard Dolan's breakaway civilization, if China broke out this technology in the world economy of the plebs.

If these connections are truly related, and there is no way to know without specialized research on the subject, it could explain a more detailed account of what the war in Libya is about. James Norman's The Oil Card provides an excellent framework of setting up this possibility. Personally, though, I'm just not so sure China isn't under the full control of the interests suppressing this technology, in which case the possibility above is simply wild conjecture...

The Gulf of Mexico oil spill pretty much exposed the "peak oil" myth. It also revealed the fact the Anglo-America elites know all along that rich oil fields are not exclusive to the area of Middle East, not to mention according to past Russian scientific studies, (which was noted by William Engdahl in relevant articles of his) oil is actually not "fossil fuel", but rather primordial materials originated probably from earth's mantle.

In the 1950’s the Soviet Union faced ‘Iron Curtain’ isolation from the West. The Cold War was in high gear. Russia had little oil to fuel its economy. Finding sufficient oil indigenously was a national security priority of the highest order.

Scientists at the Institute of the Physics of the Earth of the Russian Academy of Sciences and the Institute of Geological Sciences of the Ukraine Academy of Sciences began a fundamental inquiry in the late 1940’s: where does oil come from?

In 1956, Prof. Vladimir Porfir’yev announced their conclusions: ‘Crude oil and natural petroleum gas have no intrinsic connection with biological matter originating near the surface of the earth. They are primordial materials which have been erupted from great depths.’ The Soviet geologists had turned Western orthodox geology on its head. They called their theory of oil origin the ‘a-biotic’ theory—non-biological—to distinguish from the Western biological theory of origins.

If they were right, oil supply on earth would be limited only by the amount of hydrocarbon constituents present deep in the earth at the time of the earth’s formation. Availability of oil would depend only on technology to drill ultra-deep wells and explore into the earth’s inner regions. They also realized old fields could be revived to continue producing, so called self-replentishing fields. They argued that oil is formed deep in the earth, formed in conditions of very high temperature and very high pressure, like that required for diamonds to form. ‘Oil is a primordial material of deep origin which is transported at high pressure via ‘cold’ eruptive processes into the crust of the earth,’ Porfir’yev stated. His team dismissed the idea that oil is was biological residue of plant and animal fossil remains as a hoax designed to perpetuate the myth of limited supply.

http://www.engdahl.oilgeopolitics.ne...Peak%20Oil.htm

I notice questions arise from David Wilcock's "China's October Surprise" in which he claims China, aided by ETs is leading a global "energy revolution", one of the common question is if China is all about going "green" or "clean", then why the country is trying to grab oil wherever it can lay its hands on?

One could say its like what Benjamin Fulford said, "energy revolution" doesn't happen overnight, such abrupt change could affect the lives of many of which are dependent on this system, even though it is parasitical in nature.

But there are other stories to this as well. In short, Goldman Sachs which manipulates oil price was the key "negotiator" in the negotiation regarding China's eligibility to enter the WTO. Many of China's state owned industries were reformed, among them were the Chinese oil industries, it was demanded as precondition, but it was also hurried decision by the former regime, professional negotiations were intervened by top Chinese leaders and final deals were often unfavorable to China, and previous efforts by Chinese negotiators were overruled. That's why Lai Chang Xing is a key player in this mystery, his case not only testifies just how corrupt the former regime was, but his decade long exile in Canada also testifies the existence of ulterior influence on the course of this part of human history as well.

With the country's entry of WTO, and subsequently turning China into "the world factory", the globalists gradually demolished the remnants of a self-sufficient system created during the era of Mao, making great profit out of this "world factory", at the same time transformed it into "the second largest polluter in the world", forced the country to become dependent on foreign oil import, at the same time establishing military bases all around China, and by seizing strategic pathways which would strangle China to death by cutting off its oil supply lines when they decided its time to start WW3.

Perhaps there is a reason to why Benjamin Fulford mentioned the conflict between Gog and Magog, a conflict said to occur near Endtimes.

Using oil as energy source is a lie, there are limited reserves exclusive to the Middle East is a lie too, hence Anglo-American wars in the Middle East are bogus too, the real reason behind this orchestration, perhaps, they need to set the theater for the endtime conflict in the Middle East, where they thought they would get their desired outcome.

Perhaps, that's why "the Anglo-Saxon mission" needs to have Iran and China involved, and China would be the ultimate target, "endtime battle between the Eastern kings and Western kings", the current global geopolitical game certainly shows a parallel to such "prophecy".

Perhaps, it is for this "absurdity" that people have to pay their gas bills.