Can you answer this?

[Chuck]

It needs a binary system (or more than one star system) because it shifts the center of mass outside of the sun. Both suns orbit around this center of mass. As described in the second video above (narrated by Earl Jones I think), it is this ecliptical 26,000 year orbit that causes the precession. I guess you could say, that the precession of the equinoxes is undergoing continuously but undergoes rapid change at the moment both suns accelerate quickly past, in proximity to one another.

[IndigoStar]

Posted by Tane Mahuta (here)
I feel that the last time this happened the inhabitants of the time went from 5D to 3D
through DNA modification. History tells us that previous civillations were highly evolved spiritually & lived much longer lives the we today.

My gut feeling is, that we will either evolve back to a 5th Dimensional being, or......those
that resist will return to source as space dust.to be recycled again, in some other 3D reality.

So that would suggest that we are not on a path of evolution but more of an up/down kind of scale where we evolve then devolve then evolve ...so how do we ever make progress?
That theory doesn't feel right to me. I think we are on a path of constant evolution.

But that still doesn't explain the fact that history shows a more evolved civilization predating us!

[13th Warrior]

Posted by Chuck (here)
It needs a binary system (or more than one star system) because it shifts the center of mass outside of the sun. Both suns orbit around this center of mass. As described in the second video above (narrated by Earl Jones I think), it is this ecliptical 26,000 year orbit that causes the precession. I guess you could say, that the precession of the equinoxes is undergoing continuously but undergoes rapid change at the moment both suns accelerate quickly past, in proximity to one another.

Still, won't a singular star system still orbit around this center of mass?

I understand you need a binary system to account for the rapid change and also the shear zone; i'm not as convinced about this theory...

[Chuck]

Posted by 13th Warrior (here)

Posted by Chuck (here)
It needs a binary system (or more than one star system) because it shifts the center of mass outside of the sun. Both suns orbit around this center of mass. As described in the second video above (narrated by Earl Jones I think), it is this ecliptical 26,000 year orbit that causes the precession. I guess you could say, that the precession of the equinoxes is undergoing continuously but undergoes rapid change at the moment both suns accelerate quickly past, in proximity to one another.

Still, won't a singular star system still orbit around this center of mass?

I understand you need a binary system to account for the rapid change and also the shear zone; i'm not as convinced about this theory...

No, a singular star system has its center of mass within the star. So the star will only rotate on an axis and not complete an orbit around a curved space. True, a singular star will orbit around the galactic center, but that would create a precession of 250 million years, not 26,000.

... oh... and that precession would only be visible relative to outside galaxies, not to stars within our own galaxy.

[13th Warrior]

Posted by Chuck (here)

Posted by 13th Warrior (here)

Posted by Chuck (here)
It needs a binary system (or more than one star system) because it shifts the center of mass outside of the sun. Both suns orbit around this center of mass. As described in the second video above (narrated by Earl Jones I think), it is this ecliptical 26,000 year orbit that causes the precession. I guess you could say, that the precession of the equinoxes is undergoing continuously but undergoes rapid change at the moment both suns accelerate quickly past, in proximity to one another.

Still, won't a singular star system still orbit around this center of mass?

I understand you need a binary system to account for the rapid change and also the shear zone; i'm not as convinced about this theory...

No, a singular star system has its center of mass within the star. So the star will only rotate on an axis and not complete an orbit around a curved space. True, a singular star will orbit around the galactic center, but that would create a precession of 250 million years, not 26,000.

Ah yes, that's it!

[toothpick]

Hi IndigoStar, great thread.
I will try and answer your question.
I,m not sure that I can, but I,ll take it on as a dare.
I think on the last equinox, there will be a pole shift.
Gaia will ascend into the 4th dimension.
Enlightened humans, maybe, all of us, will ascend into the 5th dimenson.
Also this just might coinside with our 75000 yr journey back around to the age of Aquarius.
Please don,t giggle too much, it was worth a try.

toothpick

[lunaflare]

Toothpick, you have inspired my fingers to type in a possibly feeble attempt to answer a topic of vast magnitude.
breath
I "think" that we already have 5D all-knowing-full-spectrum-multiconsciousness.
This awareness of our "one-ness" and identification with the Source Creator is (commonly) referred to as our Higher Selves.
Now, a fractal, fragment, spark, weeny part of this consciousness is in the Here and Now... densely compressed into collective 3D consciousness.
And the ego part of this is what gives us our unique energy signature (and avatar names)
Our lives here are a direct result of our focused intention (from Higher Self perspective) and thus we are here, by "choice" to experience this transition with the conscious and powerful planetary Earth Mother Gaea (Feminine aspect of Source).
Is this a repeat?
No, absolutely not. Just a varying timeline in the spiral cycle.
Oh, and we have lost our memory in the process of descension...and thus we are in the process of awakening, in varying degrees, once again.
So this means, in essence, that "all that is" resides in our being and essence.
And so we are also this planet:this amazing creating force. We can create and destroy. we being our focused (and unfocused) awareness.
Our will and focused intention (plasma infused dna) is our current infinite creating POWER.
Well, that is enough from me. I
I forgot to breath and now feel a bit dizzy...plus, I need to go and trim my toe-nails

[Billy]

Posted by IndigoStar (here)
so maybe the last event (26,000 or 75,000 yrs ago - still not sure which!) marked the end of the advanced civilization (fall of Atlantis?) and now we are returning to that level. That makes sense because time is circular, so the cycles repeat and we are in the 'dark' time now. So looks like we have some pyramid building ahead of us?! yey!

Atlantis began 32 thousand years ago and ended just after the flood, 11 thousand years ago. The fall of Atlantis was within the last thousand years of their existence, Their destruction was due mostly with their Hydrogen Technology and earth changes.

At the end of each 26 thousand year cycle there is a harvest of enlightened ones, At this time which is the end of the great cycle of 75 thousand years we have the great harvest.

[13th Warrior]

Posted by lunaflare (here)
Toothpick, you have inspired my fingers to type in a possibly feeble attempt to answer a topic of vast magnitude.
breath
I "think" that we already have 5D all-knowing-full-spectrum-multiconsciousness.
This awareness of our "one-ness" and identification with the Source Creator is (commonly) referred to as our Higher Selves.
Now, a fractal, fragment, spark, weeny part of this consciousness is in the Here and Now... densely compressed into collective 3D consciousness.
And the ego part of this is what gives us our unique energy signature (and avatar names)
Our lives here are a direct result of our focused intention (from Higher Self perspective) and thus we are here, by "choice" to experience this transition with the conscious and powerful planetary Earth Mother Gaea (Feminine aspect of Source).
Is this a repeat?
No, absolutely not. Just a varying timeline in the spiral cycle.
Oh, and we have lost our memory in the process of descension...and thus we are in the process of awakening, in varying degrees, once again.
So this means, in essence, that "all that is" resides in our being and essence.
And so we are also this planet:this amazing creating force. We can create and destroy. we being our focused (and unfocused) awareness.
Our will and focused intention (plasma infused dna) is our current infinite creating POWER.
Well, that is enough from me. I
I forgot to breath and now feel a bit dizzy...plus, I need to go and trim my toe-nails

...The Feminine is the key...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gXPsXoLTIT4

I appologize if you don't like metaphor.

[Fred Steeves]

Posted by toothpick (here)
Also this just might coinside with our 75000 yr journey back around to the age of Aquarius.

Hi toothpick, unless I've missed something here, it' "only" a 26,000 (approx.)year round trip through the 12 constellations of the Zodiac.

As an aside, it wouldn't shock me in the least if our story in this little solar system could have some 0's added to it.

Cheers,
Fred

[toothpick]

Hi Lunaflare
Wow what an answer, breath.
Thank you very much for all the information, it,s incredble.
Certainly it makes much more sense.
Thanks for straitening me out and for passng along all your informaton.
I have to get off my fractal bum and get some serious research under my belt.
Vaguely, I know some of that info, but not enough obviously.
Thanks for your help, sister.

toothpick

[lunaflare]

Yes, honour and integration of the feminine is key...
Thanks for the clip. layers of symbolism there. The hand gestures were interesting from those willowy ancient light being type beings...

no prob. tooth. get off ye bum while you still have one eh....

[Cartomancer]

Isn't the beginning and end of a circle kind of ambiguous? Who defines the starting and ending of the zodiac? I think the wobble of the Earth is what causes the climate to fluctuate slowly overtime. At certain intervals a tipping point is reached and the heating or cooling effects increase to a maximum quickly then slowly change again over time. Imagine a sphere slowly rotating and wobbling in front of a lamp. It is easy to see that there would be many dynamics that could result in a change in climate over specific cycles.

[greybeard]

BBC Horizon documentary on Supper Volcanoes and population reduction.
Its cyclic.
This is part 5 of 5
Nothing to fear as we are not the body and I suspect there is every chance that we are in for a change in DNA and a raising of consciousness..

Regards Chris

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-ZDbSZTCix4

[Phoenix]

[QUOTE=Tane Mahuta;266496]

Posted by IndigoStar (here)
History tells us that previous civillations were highly
evolved spiritually & lived much longer lives the we today.

Which history?

[greybeard]

Part of the history may be found here and therein answer perhaps the question posed in the opening post
Chris

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6qtjI8eGtvM

[Tane Mahuta]

Posted by Tane Mahuta (here)

Posted by IndigoStar (here)
History tells us that previous civillations were highly
evolved spiritually & lived much longer lives the we today.

Which history?

The History of the Human Race!! ....Research Zacharia Sitchin!!.

Also the book of Genesis states.

The oldest person in the Bible was Methuselah at 969 years, then later God lowered the average life span to 120 years,
and then even lower to our current average of 70 to 80 years--and this because of the increasing wickedness of mankind.

Adam lived 930 years, and then he died. [Genesis 5:5]

Seth lived 912 years, and then he died. [Genesis 5:8]

Enosh lived 905 years, and then he died. [Genesis 5:11]

Kenan lived 910 years, and then he died. [Genesis 5:14]

Mahalalel lived 895 years, and then he died. [Genesis 5:17]

Jared lived 962 years, and then he died. [Genesis 5:20]

Methuselah lived 969 years, and then he died. [Genesis 5:27]

Lamech lived 777 years, and then he died. [Genesis 5:31]


TT

[Moemers]

I think it was Lucia Rene who said - poetically - that the cycles of human life were like the Chakras.

We've been through Root, Sacral and Navel - the one we're in now - and we're soon entering Heart.

Listen I just spent like 10 minutes trying to summarize but I'm total **** at explaining this so just go watch the interview if you're interested.

[IndigoStar]

Posted by Cartomancer (here)
Isn't the beginning and end of a circle kind of ambiguous? Who defines the starting and ending of the zodiac?

Well where did the Mayans get their info from? They are able to predict every lunar eclipse up to date within 30 seconds, from when they made the calendars all those years ago. So how did they know where to start the calendar? I guess they got their info from off this planet - higher evolved beings probably. Even though it seems ambiguous, the system is accurate. We know that from the movements of the stars that match the calendars they made.

[Kimberley]

Posted by Moemers (here)
I think it was Lucia Rene who said - poetically - that the cycles of human life were like the Chakras.

We've been through Root, Sacral and Navel - the one we're in now - and we're soon entering Heart.

Listen I just spent like 10 minutes trying to summarize but I'm total **** at explaining this so just go watch the interview if you're interested.

I interviewed Lucia Rene for a second time this past Monday July 18. She gets into mentioning the cycles in relationship to the Chakras in our interview also.

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/show3.a...er-2-7-19-2011

Enjoy!